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SonOfDSoil01:
what a clown…..so in your delusional mind obi won the 2023 election? Even gringory couldn’t have claimed he won the election.

Succinct.

If the opposition don't unite, just forget it.

zinowealth:
Na so una go dey make mouth. Until e happen. Obi swept lagos. If govnoeship election was held same day as last presidential election lagos might have been taken over by lp. Just do ur math's and don't look down on others

You have a right to say dream!

Reality will humble you.

Be patient. It’s coming.

Peter Obi of all people. Nigerians are gullible.

The only hope iof gullible delusional and tribalistic people

And why do you think P Obi- should be the only one to oppose President Tinubu,OP?
Because I don't get this your analysis,at all ?
Was he and others not there in 2023 and what was Una outcomes?
Interestingly,Obi and others,were going up and down with Press Conferences - as if Social Media Voted in any elections?
Nigeria is a Multi-Party System,so let people make their choices, and no Sentiment in Democracy!

I made a mistake opening and reading this no sense thread

franchasofficia:
1.) Peter Obi/El Rufai
2.) Goodluck Jonathan/Tambuwal
3.) Atiku/Obi


Any of the aforementioned tickets will defeat Tinubu.


But as someone with 3rd eye, Bola Tinubu is using high level voodooism to disorganize the opposition and lure many into defecting to APC. He might end up winning, sadly.


The aftermath?

The high level of voodooism Tinubu has been involved in to hold on to power will backfire on

No ticket on earth can defeat Bola Tinubu in 2027.

Penguin2:
Penguin is a bird of reason!

Change your name from penguin to something else’s

How will you say Obi will defeat Asiwaju in the North? Even if a 1 million Atiku go on campaign ground dey campaign morning and night for Obi, Tinubu will win Obi in the core North and North central.

Even Peter Obi cannot boldly come out to say he will defeat Asiwaju if it’s both of them alone on a ticket.

Atiku has no chance in 2027 presidential election.
Let him not contest.

Penguin2:
I’m not going to write long tales. Yeah, I will just go straight to the point.

With the wave of defections going on, very soon all Southern Governors might be in APC.

And if we check very well, almost all Southern governors who are yet to join APC seem amenable to Tinubu’s re-election.

Name them, Gov Adeleke of Osun is not in APC today because of the pushback of APC stalwarts in Osun.

Gov Otti of Abia has never hidden his friendship with Tinubu.

Gov Diri is touted to have resigned from PDP en route APC.

Gov Fubara is only a governor on paper that even if he doesn’t defect cannot do much to harm Tinubu’s gameplan for Rivers.

Only Makinde seems to be on his own and that’s because he wants to answer Presidential candidate in 2027.

My point is, with what is currently happening in the south, the ADC or any opposition coalition giving their ticket to a northerner will just make 2027 Presidential Election an easy ride for Tinubu as it will become a north vs south affair. And with vast of the Middle Belt amenable to Southern sentiments, and with whatever Tinubu would be able to muscle from the rest of the North, he’s sure to win in 2027.

So, if the opposition is truly interested in challenging Tinubu in 2027, their ONLY option is to willingly hand the ticket to Peter Obi.

Why? Because with Obi, the south will be broken; with Obi taking Southeast and Southsouth again.

Again, the Middle Belt and northern Christians are still sold out to Obi.

Then you add whatever influence Atiku and his men can bring for Obi from the core North and you will see Tinubu struggling, if not beaten silly.

This is the only practical, logical and realistic option left for the opposition.

If you think they have a better option, convince us otherwise.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

Obi will not get 100 votes in the North.
No party yet in Nigeria that has the structure to defeat Tinubu. All those that defected will influence the election for Tinubu victory

Penguin2:
Give the ticket to Atiku and you will unite the south behind Tinubu.

Give it to Peter Obi and you will divide the south into two and take the larger share.

The Middle Belt is an easy home for Obi especially if you put agents on ground to prevent change of results.

Then Atiku, Tambuwal and co will deliver larger chunk of the core North, and the election is won.

Now, tell me the calculation you plan to make with Atiku.

This one keeps forgetting that the Muslim Muslim cacophony that was used in 2023 is no longer in play.
Your Obi will not come close to what he got the last time. That's the closest he will ever come to winning, and he came 3rd.

Give the ticket to Obi. The begging has started again. Can’t Obi fight for and get the ticket on his own.
You want them to dash him so he can be controlled to benefit a few.

Forget it Obi can never be president.

Goodluck Jonathan is Nigerians next president in 2027

hafeeanubasy:
OBi and his well overrated leadership skills by his followers.

So far after 2023,OBI has not shown leadership except cho cho and tribal bigotry

The one that shoes leadership, how is the economy of the country hitting u?
Are u really enjoying the situation in the country your over rated tax master is milking the citizens dry and u are not worry about that.
Just burgled up next year is going to be another phase of hardship this year is phase one.

If Atiku support Obi, it is over

Penguin2:
I’m not going to write long tales. Yeah, I will just go straight to the point.

With the wave of defections going on, very soon all Southern Governors might be in APC.

And if we check very well, almost all Southern governors who are yet to join APC seem amenable to Tinubu’s re-election.

Name them, Gov Adeleke of Osun is not in APC today because of the pushback of APC stalwarts in Osun.

Gov Otti of Abia has never hidden his friendship with Tinubu.

Gov Diri is touted to have resigned from PDP en route APC.

Gov Fubara is only a governor on paper that even if he doesn’t defect cannot do much to harm Tinubu’s gameplan for Rivers.

Only Makinde seems to be on his own and that’s because he wants to answer Presidential candidate in 2027.

My point is, with what is currently happening in the south, the ADC or any opposition coalition giving their ticket to a northerner will just make 2027 Presidential Election an easy ride for Tinubu as it will become a north vs south affair. And with vast of the Middle Belt amenable to Southern sentiments, and with whatever Tinubu would be able to muscle from the rest of the North, he’s sure to win in 2027.

So, if the opposition is truly interested in challenging Tinubu in 2027, their ONLY option is to willingly hand the ticket to Peter Obi.

Why? Because with Obi, the south will be broken; with Obi taking Southeast and Southsouth again.

Again, the Middle Belt and northern Christians are still sold out to Obi.

Then you add whatever influence Atiku and his men can bring for Obi from the core North and you will see Tinubu struggling, if not beaten silly.

This is the only practical, logical and realistic option left for the opposition.

If you think they have a better option, convince us otherwise.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

2023 was masses vs INEC and Judiciary.

2027 will be the same.

Nice analysis. Well done.

However, I don’t think your permutations are without flaws.😊😊

I’m an ardent supporter of Peter Obi anf I’ll say this:

If we had a system where our votes counted, your analysis could work. But the INEC chairman cannot counter his employer; else he’d be jobless.

The opposition ought tp have been pushing for electoral reforms if they believed the 2023 elections was rigged, but sadly, they are quiet.

This is why I won’t be voting come 2027, unless there are electoral reforms.

That said, fielding Atiku as the presidential candidate is the smartest way to have a shot at the North, as the North don’t trust Peter Obi to do a single term.

That is a very strong consideration which was why Goofluck Jonathan came into the picture in the first place— he is sure to do just 4 years.

So my take is simple:

Peter Obi should deputize Atiku Abubakar. That’s the surest and fastest way to get a South Eastern President. Atiku will want to leave that legacy.

Penguin2:
I’m not going to write long tales. Yeah, I will just go straight to the point.

With the wave of defections going on, very soon all Southern Governors might be in APC.

And if we check very well, almost all Southern governors who are yet to join APC seem amenable to Tinubu’s re-election.

Name them, Gov Adeleke of Osun is not in APC today because of the pushback of APC stalwarts in Osun.

Gov Otti of Abia has never hidden his friendship with Tinubu.

Gov Diri is touted to have resigned from PDP en route APC.

Gov Fubara is only a governor on paper that even if he doesn’t defect cannot do much to harm Tinubu’s gameplan for Rivers.

Only Makinde seems to be on his own and that’s because he wants to answer Presidential candidate in 2027.

My point is, with what is currently happening in the south, the ADC or any opposition coalition giving their ticket to a northerner will just make 2027 Presidential Election an easy ride for Tinubu as it will become a north vs south affair. And with vast of the Middle Belt amenable to Southern sentiments, and with whatever Tinubu would be able to muscle from the rest of the North, he’s sure to win in 2027.

So, if the opposition is truly interested in challenging Tinubu in 2027, their ONLY option is to willingly hand the ticket to Peter Obi.

Why? Because with Obi, the south will be broken; with Obi taking Southeast and Southsouth again.

Again, the Middle Belt and northern Christians are still sold out to Obi.

Then you add whatever influence Atiku and his men can bring for Obi from the core North and you will see Tinubu struggling, if not beaten silly.

This is the only practical, logical and realistic option left for the opposition.

If you think they have a better option, convince us otherwise.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

And you think Obi can unseat Tinubu

WHAT ABOUT "THE DEMOLITION COURIERS"?

Penguin2 being true and realistic is not in the nature of obidients. I’m compelled to believe that self delusion is a form of psychological disease.

Goodluck Ebele Jonathan would have been a better opposition candidate given his availability to a single term

blackgold2018:
why only using ministerial portfolios for example🤣🤣.

Truth is bitter it’s the government of the Yorubas the south west. Not the south. Ok then allow Obi same southerner to grab the power 🤣. Bloody set of hypocrites

Obi will have to win the presidential election to be able to effect an Ibo power grab that you are hungry about. Till then, the presidency under Bola Tinubu will remain a national presidency.

Penguin2:
I’m not going to write long tales. Yeah, I will just go straight to the point.

With the wave of defections going on, very soon all Southern Governors might be in APC.

And if we check very well, almost all Southern governors who are yet to join APC seem amenable to Tinubu’s re-election.

Name them, Gov Adeleke of Osun is not in APC today because of the pushback of APC stalwarts in Osun.

Gov Otti of Abia has never hidden his friendship with Tinubu.

Gov Diri is touted to have resigned from PDP en route APC.

Gov Fubara is only a governor on paper that even if he doesn’t defect cannot do much to harm Tinubu’s gameplan for Rivers.

Only Makinde seems to be on his own and that’s because he wants to answer Presidential candidate in 2027.

My point is, with what is currently happening in the south, the ADC or any opposition coalition giving their ticket to a northerner will just make 2027 Presidential Election an easy ride for Tinubu as it will become a north vs south affair. And with vast of the Middle Belt amenable to Southern sentiments, and with whatever Tinubu would be able to muscle from the rest of the North, he’s sure to win in 2027.

So, if the opposition is truly interested in challenging Tinubu in 2027, their ONLY option is to willingly hand the ticket to Peter Obi.

Why? Because with Obi, the south will be broken; with Obi taking Southeast and Southsouth again.

Again, the Middle Belt and northern Christians are still sold out to Obi.

Then you add whatever influence Atiku and his men can bring for Obi from the core North and you will see Tinubu struggling, if not beaten silly.

This is the only practical, logical and realistic option left for the opposition.

If you think they have a better option, convince us otherwise.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

Your assertions would have made sense in an open minded society without some Factors

whether we like it or not we are till held bound by shackles " ethnicity and religion" along " zoning" informal arrangement
i have seen people combine oxford n harvard english to discredit " Zoning" doesnt exist, blah blah is not in our constitution its jus a coincidence south nd North are exchanging after every 8yrs ... whoever want to live in fuuls paradise can have the keys

Peter Obi best chance was 2023, and now that a southerner had done 4yrs Obi chances are thwarted cos its will disrupt North comeback 2031 via "zoning"

Obi suddenly promise of one term is him acknowledging " zoning" exist buh our harvard people say its concidences

Should Atiku contest, he cant win cos is still south turn, and Obi can't win cos North wont let him kill there 2031 comeback, even his platform LP sounds compromised

So the only candidate that can probably displace Tinubu is a southerner that fit one term and already has a wide popularity across Nigeria

Forget Grammar, Forget accent, we practice archaic politics

seunmsg:
Obi will have to win the presidential election to be able to effect an Ibo power grab that you are hungry about. Till then, the presidency under Bola Tinubu will remain a national presidency.

that’s the problem you poor folks. Ethnicity. Who join Nigeria🤦‍♂️.
Only poor people see it as ethnic power grap. The same way your brothers are suffering and smiling under a Yoruba leadership.

Nigeria never votes for competence but kinsman. I rooted for obasanjo, voted for Buhari against my own kinsman Jonathan.(Buhari has been the greatest mistake on Nigerians). Voted Atiku to boot out Buhari but failed.

But as you poor people are happy incompetent Tinubu is on seat, what’s your benefit Oga??

koning:
For ADC, the strategy is simple. Do with Peter Obi what Tinubu did with Buhari under APC. That is their only pathway to winning against Tinubu now given all these defections.

Make Obi the candidate for ADC, then have Atiku, El-Rufai campaign vigorously for him in the North.

Regardless of all these opportunistic defections, the moment Peter Obi becomes the presidential candidate for the ADC, Tinubu will score even less than the 5% Buhari got. SS,SE AND NC will be in the bag already.

If this is not done, Tinubu wins again because the opposition parties are in tatters.

How is south south in the bag? You even mentioned north central. Pls tell, which north central state is in the bag?

CoronaVirusPro:
😆😂😆😂😆

Even in the face of GLARING reality, Obidients still think they have a shot 😂😀😂😀😂

I am a strong believer of hoping, but also a strong believer of facing reality when it stares at you.

At this juncture, it is ABSOLUTE DELUSION to even hope that anything comes close to His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR)

Haven’t you seen, heard or read about the current status quo, and how His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR) is light years ahead of oppositions that currently do not exist.

How do you lots hope for impossibilities? Cant you be true and realistic to yourselves in the face of hardcore truth?

Anyone planning to contest against the demigod just wants his picture on the ballot papers, and it’s not about winning.

Are you an artist, can you also write romantic poem

Tinubu confidence ahead of 2027 election is just " Zoning" ... he knows anyone in south with two term can't displace him the ecosystem of election wont allow it

Check places jonathan tendencies to re run as being speculated, check reactions of the presidency read into onanuga rants then compare it with how presidency react to Atiku and Obi speculation to re -run

Tinubu strategy for 2023 was Religious card, coming 2027 will be ethnicity card, thats why he is making sure he locksdown all the south governors take there structure, so jonathan will have nothing to run with incase he comes out ....
North are very more committed to " zoning" they cant reneged, Tinubu is seriously banking on that,

with Jonathan, North have an option to vote against Tinubu and not breach the zoning commitment

AMINDA:
Have you checked the latest figures from the INEC voters registration data? If all the Southern governors are decamping to the APC like you confirm, what then is Peter Obi's leverage? For context, the North gave Tinubu over 65% of his votes in 2023 with 5.6m votes. The North also gave Atiku close to 7m votes while giving Kwankwaso 1.5m votes. Obi also got over half of his votes from the Northcentral/Middlebelt. Numbers don't lie but you have to do the math.

Stop lying. Atiku couldn't win Tinubu in the north. He did not get up to 6 million votes in the north, not to talk of 7.

the north are the major cause of all the problem in the country.

the south will remain with tinubu if they cannot support obi.

one thing is clear tinubu will ring the election for himself and for the governers that moved to apc, even if the north didn't support him. and another thing is that tinubu second term will be worst more than what the country is going through.

and lastly tinunu will restructure the country before he complete his second term.

Penguin2:
Give the ticket to Atiku and you will unite the south behind Tinubu.

Give it to Peter Obi and you will divide the south into two and take the larger share.

The Middle Belt is an easy home for Obi especially if you put agents on ground to prevent change of results.

Then Atiku, Tambuwal and co will deliver larger chunk of the core North, and the election is won.

Now, tell me the calculation you plan to make with Atiku.

You ppl should stop deceiving yourselves...
The only way to stop tinubu is an Atiku / obi ticket
Atiku will seal the north n obi most of the south..
Defections or no defections, with this ticket tinubu is gone by 12 noon election day....

saintokwuluora:
The main election is Atiku's ambition vs Obi's competence...Tinubu knows this.

Competence to deliver votes? If so atiku is no threat, if not, then he is not competent according to deciding people who care to cast votes

The writer just over show his Obidient alignment. You just mentioned that all southerners stockholders are moving to APC and 2027 election will be North vs South.
So you want North to give presidency to Obi by voting him to Aso-Rock the way they did for Tinubu in 2023 that back fire. What did Elrufai and co get from supporting Southern candidate in 2023.

As per your analysis, I think the best bet to wrestling power from Tinubu is Atiku/Obi joint ticket. Northern give their voting strength to their son and Obi rally the remaining South votes to support Atiku

seunmsg:
How is south south in the bag? You even mentioned north central. Pls tell, which north central state is in the bag?

Do you think that what Wike did in Rivers in 2023 will happen again? Did you see the official result sheet of River state in the last presidential election? It was outright disgusting. Wike has been checkmated.

Peter Obi wins SS outright.

For ADC to win against Tinubu, they would have to field Obi and give him the full backing. All that defection you are seeing will only work for the governorship elections.