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Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu: 6:58am On Oct 16, 2025
LordAdam16:
😂😀🤣

It is heartening that you pro-West economic arsonists have finally dropped the mask.
Thank you for admitting that the side you cheer for would rather burn down the entire planet than allow shared prosperity.




China's global interests are not tied to individual regimes.
China has crafted an all-encompassing economic/foreign policy that is politically agnostic.
Whether Tinubu, GEJ, Atiku, Obi, or Kwankwaso becomes the President of Nigeria in 2027, China will remain Nigeria's largest partner.
Nigeria will be in BRICS and China will establish more factories and disburse more financing.

If Washington likes it should conduct regime change or sponsor destabilizing protests.
At the end of the day, when the new President and the protesters return home, 90% of the products in their homes will be either made in China or have Chinese components in them.
China is INDISPENSABLE. The incentives and interests align perfectly.

And as Gerrard59 repeats ad nauseam, China will not make demands, intervene, or attempt to foist alien cultures on you.
Even better, you can maintain your relationships with anyone else.
Nigeria imports most of its used vehicles from the US. China does not mind.
Ecuador exports its bananas to the US. China does not mind.
China does not operate with a zero-sum mindset.
Everyone can and should prosper.




And this, Mr, is why multipolarism is here to stay.
No one can put that toothpaste back in the tube.

Whether it is Madagascar or Nepal or Bangladesh or Pakistan or Mali, the citizens of these countries will decide who rules them.
Before they make that decision, while they're making that decision, and after they've made that decision; Chinese ships will bring the most cost-effective products, factories, and low-cost financing to them. With zero strings attached.

In China we trust, others can go to hell.

-Lord
All these delusional Chinese lovinh Africans lmaooo.
Anyways like I said
All we are doing is spectating
Lets watch and see how things unfold as the decades go by

Venezuela is next on the chopping block
Maduro thinks he has Chinese backing right?
Since the sharks have been circling him, how much "help" has he gotten from his friends?

Make una dey chest thump about China grin cheesy

Its left for them to make a move for Taiwan and then see what happens to their economy AND their forces in Taiwan

Nobody said china cannot sell their products to the global south
Its good that they are selling it, because the west have left low end manufacturing for Asians and are focus on what THEY THINK matter, which is the high end one, which is why again, America committed itself to NOT losing the AI WAR and has thrown in the sink in that regard

And mark my words
Just as the came victorious in WW II and in the arms race/cold war, THEY WILL BE VICTORIOUS IN THE AI WAR as well, regardless of the current incompetent leader in Washington

Anyways enough of cho cho cho

Lets be observing as it plays out
"Multipolarism" have come to stay yen yen yen lmaooo grin
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu: 7:08am On Oct 16, 2025
"China believes in shared prosperity"

So says a delusional african

So the power that got victorious in WWII that was the architect of the Marshall Plan, and also gave access to markets and capital ant technologies to Europe, South East Asia and even its friends up the middle east do not believe in "shared prosperity"

Lmaooo
Black folks grin grin

It is a foreign policy neophtye who is practicing predatory dumping in vulnerable markets to enrich itself that believes in shared prosperity grin grin cheesy

Okay na
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Gerrard59(m): 5:24am On Oct 17, 2025
LordAdam16:
😂😀🤣

It is heartening that you pro-West economic arsonists have finally dropped the mask.
Thank you for admitting that the side you cheer for would rather burn down the entire planet than allow shared prosperity.
When I saw that comment, I was shocked that an African would support the removal of presidents simply because the country aligns with China. Whether the Madagascan president is close to China, I don't know, but supporting the removal of existing presidents or an overthrow of the incumbent because they are somehow pro-China is how we got the ousting of Muammar Gaddafi, and we know the results across the Sahel.

China's global interests are not tied to individual regimes.
China has crafted an all-encompassing economic/foreign policy that is politically agnostic.
Whether Tinubu, GEJ, Atiku, Obi, or Kwankwaso becomes the President of Nigeria in 2027, China will remain Nigeria's largest partner.
Nigeria will be in BRICS and China will establish more factories and disburse more financing.
While it is largely true, should Chinese interests be attacked because there is a change in power, that country loses economic benefits from China. We see this in the Philippines and to an extent in Taiwan. So an anti-Chinese presidency in Nigeria would see Chinese government-led investments reduced. The economic relationships would largely be conducted on a private/individual/company level. And that is the good thing because at this stage of our economic development, we cannot sidestep the collaboration with the Chinese or the mere purchase of industrial equipment from China. As a country, we need A LOT OF FACTORY jobs, and to maximise scarce capital resources, China is the best place to purchase industrial equipment. Watch and read about all the thriving factory owners in Nigeria; they purchase their equipment from China.

So an anti-China president cannot stop that. BLord, our women going to buy goods from China, VDM, spare parts/electronics dealers and the hordes of factory owners across northern Nigeria will keep going to China.

If Washington likes it should conduct regime change or sponsor destabilizing protests.
At the end of the day, when the new President and the protesters return home, 90% of the products in their homes will be either made in China or have Chinese components in them.
China is INDISPENSABLE. The incentives and interests align perfectly.
And as Gerr.ard59 repeats ad nauseam, China will not make demands, intervene, or attempt to foist alien cultures on you.
Even better, you can maintain your relationships with anyone else.
Nigeria imports most of its used vehicles from the US. China does not mind.
Ecuador exports its bananas to the US. China does not mind.
China does not operate with a zero-sum mindset.
Everyone can and should prosper.
This is what I have been preaching since o. The Chinese are not against the British being interested in Zimbabwean mines, but don't stop them from mining and operating factories in the country. South America is in the US' backyard, yet American lawmakers were angry that China has made inroads into the continent. Did the Chinese stop America from doing the same? No. American automakers pulled out of Brazil, while BYD has gone in. Did the Chinese order American companies to leave? No. China imports beef and soybeans from Brazil, but it took open threats from South American leaders for the EU to accept the trade deal between both regions. In fact, the Chinese did not say anything when Milei was doing initial shakara, but as soon as export levies on soybeans were temporarily removed by Milei, the Chinese ordered vessels of soybeans and soymeal. The Chinese don't care about the $20BN signed with Bessent. Na soybeans we want, daz ol!

C'mon gentlmen! Wouldn't you love such a trading relationship?

And this, Mr, is why multipolarism is here to stay.
No one can put that toothpaste back in the tube. Whether it is Madagascar or Nepal or Bangladesh or Pakistan or Mali, the citizens of these countries will decide who rules them. Before they make that decision, while they're making that decision, and after they've made that decision; Chinese ships will bring the most cost-effective products, factories, and low-cost financing to them. With zero strings attached.

In China we trust, others can go to hell.
Simple!

That is how my modus operandi has been for a long time, and so shall it be going forward. Let's do business, and we'll go home. I would not poke-nose into your internal affairs, and I want you to accord me the same. When I lend you money and you agree to my terms, pay me back on time. I would not use that loan to try to control your internal affairs. I am only interested in the loans and its interests. I sell to you and you sell to me. Don't tell me how to behave. If you want to elect Assistant Jesus or Assistant Satan or in-between, that is on you. I am only interested in trading.
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by pansophist(op): 6:55am On Oct 18, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
So someone who passed state secrets to America's adversaries should be "given" the Nobel Peace Pirze

🤡 🤡
There is nothing noble about the Noble peace prize. It is an award given to anyone that furthers anglo empire's objectives. If war criminals like Obama can be awarded, then it has lost its credibility.

I only mentioned it to prove a point, and it is that Fuchs doesn't deserve such an award. The history of recipient for the Noble peace prize have always been evil folks, and mostly white people.

Go figure
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by LordAdam16: 9:12am On Oct 18, 2025
pansophist:
I honestly wonder a lot of times if these guys are paid, or they are just evil. Because I do not understand how a right thinking human being regardless of race will see the world for what it is, and still supports the west.

The evil that the Anglo empires have bequeathed on the world, and how they still defend it. It is a tragedy beyond imagination, if those defenders are Africans, which I doubt.

There are many paid idiots, and they are not necessarily Africans. They mimics how we write, use indigenous names, and confuse you to think that you are discussing with one of your own, and that you are an outlier to think out of the mainstream narrative.

The devil is a master of confusion, and architect of lies, and have zero integrity. RodgersAkpafu, alongside Obedience are just examples of such morally bankrupt individuals.

If these people are truly one of our own, then their birth is a regret, and have made the world darker.
I think for some of them, it is kinda like supporting a sports team.
Arsenal's performance on a matchday does not affect the trajectory of lives of an entire continent.
But that's how they take it.
For some others, particularly the Diasporan africans, it is the paradox of allegiance.
How to balance gratitude for the economic lifeline they enjoy against the economic interests of the place of their ancestry.

On the paid idiots. The entire front page of this site has been taken over by paid actors.
At first, they were deployed to help a domestic political bloc (APC). But they're now mercenaries for hire and spout pro-Zionist, pro-West talking points.
You would not find them on a thread like this but make an FP thread about any news that has been shared here and watch the locusts gather.

Same folks you'll find on X, YouTube, Reddit comment sections.
There is an army of them. A global cottage industry of sorts.

Lastly, there will always be Judases. Iranian hard liners can write dissertations on this.
Even after the bombings, the assassinations, the murders, there are still Iranians inside and outside the country talking about surrendering Iranian national security.
We all have them.
The Palestinians taking money and weapons from their enemy to kill fellow Palestinians and work towards the goal of genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
Sure, the West bombed Qadaffi. But who were their foot soldiers?
Who exactly is promising the US $1T in 15 years after deposing Maduro. It's our darling 2025 Nobel Peace Prize winner, a Venezuelan.

This is why China's rise is so mind blowing.
They've done this in spite of this phenomenon where they probably have tens of millions of people who could be affected by Western influence operations. They've become this independent and a bulwark despite having a country of people within (and outside) the country who like our friend Rodgers will shill for the West to suppress and contain China.

So yea, the pro West bloc is an inevitability and a fact of life we always have to consider when making projections and analysis.
The West's goal of containing China is such a major threat to Africa's economic interests that anyone who is African and is cheering for it is clearly either st*pid, an agent, or both.

-Lord
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu:
Chinese loving negros are having a meltdown in the comment section cheesy grin cheesy

Look at very interesting adjectives.... evil, agent, stupid, shill, lmaooooo
Very hilarious and funny


This question can also be flipped

After hearing about Tibet, Uighurs, why will anyone with common sense want to side the Chinese?

Look at what they are up to in Zambia and the Pacific

Almost ALL your neighbours are at logger heads with you, you are on a delusional land grabbing spree in the region and other countries view you with suspicion and apprehension.

I have worked with Chinese company and Western company, the difference is clear as day and night
Even when I was in Nigeria. So why will I align with a people that treat my people like animals?

Currently in a Western Uni and will be in a Chinese one for a short stint within 12 months and I already dread it because of what my Chinese colleagues have told me about their own experiences there, so again, why will I be sino aligned

Yes, we deal with racism here, but unlike China, the govt and elite has made it clear that it is not okay, and have put laws in place to punish people who fall out of line. Has Chinese govt done the same?

But negros because of some dollars shared to hungry countries here and there, you are praise singing a morally bankrupt regime

At the end of the day like I always said
All of us are just spectators

When the time comes, and Washington and Beijing inevitably butt heads, we shall see how it will end

Emotionally driven negros
One is even alleging that I am a "paid actor"

Very funny people

You guys can't see that the fingers you are pointing at others is also pointing at you grin cheesy
The same argument can be made that you lot are pro china shills (or to a lesser degree pro Russia, but mainly pro china)

Instead of you to propose an Indian style diplomacy where you deal with everyone as partners (which is actually pragmatic) you want to lean towards a morally bankrupt China that is practically running a dumping trade policy across the global south that has killed local production
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu:
Gerrard59:
When I saw that comment, I was shocked that an African would support the removal of presidents simply because the country aligns with China. Whether the Madagascan president is close to China, I don't know, but supporting the removal of existing presidents or an overthrow of the incumbent because they are somehow pro-China is how we got the ousting of Muammar Gaddafi, and we know the results across the Sahel.


While it is largely true, should Chinese interests be attacked because there is a change in power, that country loses economic benefits from China. We see this in the Philippines and to an extent in Taiwan. So an anti-Chinese presidency in Nigeria would see Chinese government-led investments reduced. The economic relationships would largely be conducted on a private/individual/company level. And that is the good thing because at this stage of our economic development, we cannot sidestep the collaboration with the Chinese or the mere purchase of industrial equipment from China. As a country, we need A LOT OF FACTORY jobs, and to maximise scarce capital resources, China is the best place to purchase industrial equipment. Watch and read about all the thriving factory owners in Nigeria; they purchase their equipment from China.

So an anti-China president cannot stop that. BLord, our women going to buy goods from China, VDM, spare parts/electronics dealers and the hordes of factory owners across northern Nigeria will keep going to China.




This is what I have been preaching since o. The Chinese are not against the British being interested in Zimbabwean mines, but don't stop them from mining and operating factories in the country. South America is in the US' backyard, yet American lawmakers were angry that China has made inroads into the continent. Did the Chinese stop America from doing the same? No. American automakers pulled out of Brazil, while BYD has gone in. Did the Chinese order American companies to leave? No. China imports beef and soybeans from Brazil, but it took open threats from South American leaders for the EU to accept the trade deal between both regions. In fact, the Chinese did not say anything when Milei was doing initial shakara, but as soon as export levies on soybeans were temporarily removed by Milei, the Chinese ordered vessels of soybeans and soymeal. The Chinese don't care about the $20BN signed with Bessent. Na soybeans we want, daz ol!

C'mon gentlmen! Wouldn't you love such a trading relationship?


Simple!

That is how my modus operandi has been for a long time, and so shall it be going forward. Let's do business, and we'll go home. I would not poke-nose into your internal affairs, and I want you to accord me the same. When I lend you money and you agree to my terms, pay me back on time. I would not use that loan to try to control your internal affairs. I am only interested in the loans and its interests. I sell to you and you sell to me. Don't tell me how to behave. If you want to elect Assistant Jesus or Assistant Satan or in-between, that is on you. I am only interested in trading.
This is all idealistic and sweet
But the world does not work like that

I work with reality not what I WISH the world should be

Washington is making the global south know that when they come for you, the neophytes Beijing do not have the capability to save you

Pakistan recently rebuffed the Chinese and instead aligned with Washington for a particular contract

Venezuela is currently being circled by sharks

Eastern Europe has made their choice by aligning with the West as against the broke Russians

Middle East is leaning more with the Americans

DRC has edged out the Chinese

And SE Asian countries are still watching

India is non aligned and friends with everybody

Beijing can spend all the money that they want
But when it comes to it, if indeed you want to be a "power" ; you will have to defend and be there for your friends when they need u.

That's the edge Washington has
Those on its side
it will burn the world to protect them when they get bucked by a rival power

Japan and South Korea can testify
Ukraine can testify
Saudi and Qatar can testify
Even the baltic states can testify as well SINCE they pivoted from broke Russia to their side

Again, let's be watching as things go by

Washington didn't say you shouldn't buy cheap goods from China
They are buying it too

And the world right now is paying for American services such as Amazon, Netflix, Visa, Mastercard, Microsoft, Palantir, and the list goes on and on and on

They have left low end manufacturing for them
And are on the high end where the real money is...
Was shocked to see how much American companies rake from Nigeria and Britain (my home and adopted countries) every year for subscriptions

Doing a comparative analysis of how much the USA rakes in from their service subscriptions based behemoths and putting it side by side with how much china is making via exporting cheap and substandard goods to broke people in the global south; the difference is clear

Lets be watching and seeing how things play out
I wish everyone the best 👌
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu: 10:06am On Oct 18, 2025
pansophist:
There is nothing noble about the Noble peace prize. It is an award given to anyone that furthers anglo empire's objectives. If war criminals like Obama can be awarded, then it has lost its credibility.

I only mentioned it to prove a point, and it is that Fuchs doesn't deserve such an award. The history of recipient for the Noble peace prize have always been evil folks, and mostly white people.

Go figure
Well, part of the job description of being a US president is to protect American interests AT ALL COSTS, and if it means causing chaos overseas

So be it

China is trying to learn by supporting a few groups here and therr
But they still have a lot to learn
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu: 10:19am On Oct 18, 2025
So what this thread is about is wishful thinking of what they hope the world will be...
Where China will come "save" Africa lmaooo and posture as a "world power"
And Russia will also come provide security and weapons for Africa

Maybe
Maybe not

Its interesting to come here and read the posts though, of often very intelligent people (some of you though) articulate your points
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by LordAdam16: 4:35pm On Oct 18, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Chinese loving negros are having a meltdown in the comment section cheesy grin cheesy

Look at very interesting adjectives.... evil, agent, stupid, shill, lmaooooo
Very hilarious and funny


This question can also be flipped

After hearing about Tibet, Uighurs, why will anyone with common sense want to side the Chinese?

Look at what they are up to in Zambia and the Pacific

Almost ALL your neighbours are at logger heads with you, you are on a delusional land grabbing spree in the region and other countries view you with suspicion and apprehension.

I have worked with Chinese company and Western company, the difference is clear as day and night
Even when I was in Nigeria. So why will I align with a people that treat my people like animals?

Currently in a Western Uni and will be in a Chinese one for a short stint within 12 months and I already dread it because of what my Chinese colleagues have told me about their own experiences there, so again, why will I be sino aligned

Yes, we deal with racism here, but unlike China, the govt and elite has made it clear that it is not okay, and have put laws in place to punish people who fall out of line. Has Chinese govt done the same?

But negros because of some dollars shared to hungry countries here and there, you are praise singing a morally bankrupt regime

At the end of the day like I always said
All of us are just spectators

When the time comes, and Washington and Beijing inevitably butt heads, we shall see how it will end

Emotionally driven negros
One is even alleging that I am a "paid actor"

Very funny people

You guys can't see that the fingers you are pointing at others is also pointing at you grin cheesy
The same argument can be made that you lot are pro china shills (or to a lesser degree pro Russia, but mainly pro china)

Instead of you to propose an Indian style diplomacy where you deal with everyone as partners (which is actually pragmatic) you want to lean towards a morally bankrupt China that is practically running a dumping trade policy across the global south that has killed local production
The product of zealous sycophancy for the West.

If only the US, the paragon of virtue, could give the Native Americans one autonomous state, like China gave Tibet.
Or return California to Mexico.

The GDP of Xinjiang has grown from 1.68 billion yuan in 1955 to 2 TRILLION yuan in 2024.
That is an increase of 162,490%.
This is the YouTube channel of an American who married a Uyghur.
https://www.youtube.com/@kats_journey_east
This is the wedding in rural Xinjiang. Her parents attended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNJeU7zXFT8

OMG, they are so repressed!

You are nauseatingly ignorant.
The US and China are already butting heads.
There is an economic war going on right now.
A hot war will follow the same trajectory. An obtuse America finally realizing they are no longer the only game in town.

And your last paragraph is one more demonstration of your ignorance.
Because, India, yes that pragmatic India, is currently in an economic war started by the US because of its pragmatism of buying cheap energy from any source and for the heinous crime of being a BRICS leader. Brazil is also on this table.
The fulcrum holding the Global South's economic engine together is China.
Yes, that big, bad China.
Look at its trade (the size and trajectory) with all its suspicious neighbors.

So what the f*ck are you talking about?
The West does not want to let anyone be.
Not even its allies. It engineered the bombing of the energy infrastructure of its own ally - Germany.
It sent Japan into a thirty-year and still counting economic purgatory.
It has declared hostility on BRICS.

Yet, Africans who suffered most in the defunct, unequal, highly exploitative unipolar era cannot even voice public support for China's wildly successful economic policy with the Global South.
This is not coming from a pale, blue-eyed Caucasian. No, it's coming from a red-blooded propagandized fellow of African ancestry.
Ten million victims of King Leopold's atrocities are rolling in their grave.

That on one fine Summer day, an African would blithely say with approval that the West will rather burn the world down than let China and the Global South trade between themselves in any other currency other than a Western one. This is beyond subservience. To be a free African man choosing and proselytizing Western economic chains. Words cannot express how much of a monumental disgrace you are to your ancestry.

-Lord
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu:
LordAdam16:
The product of zealous sycophancy for the West.

If only the US, the paragon of virtue, could give the Native Americans one autonomous state, like China gave Tibet.
Or return California to Mexico.

The GDP of Xinjiang has grown from 1.68 billion yuan in 1955 to 2 TRILLION yuan in 2024.
That is an increase of 162,490%.
This is the YouTube channel of an American who married a Uyghur.
https://www.youtube.com/@kats_journey_east
This is the wedding in rural Xinjiang. Her parents attended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNJeU7zXFT8

OMG, they are so repressed!

You are nauseatingly ignorant.
The US and China are already butting heads.
There is an economic war going on right now.
A hot war will follow the same trajectory. An obtuse America finally realizing they are no longer the only game in town.

And your last paragraph is one more demonstration of your ignorance.
Because, India, yes that pragmatic India, is currently in an economic war started by the US because of its pragmatism of buying cheap energy from any source and for the heinous crime of being a BRICS leader. Brazil is also on this table.
The fulcrum holding the Global South's economic engine together is China.
Yes, that big, bad China.
Look at its trade (the size and trajectory) with all its suspicious neighbors.

So what the f*ck are you talking about?
The West does not want to let anyone be.
Not even its allies. It engineered the bombing of the energy infrastructure of its own ally - Germany.
It sent Japan into a thirty-year and still counting economic purgatory.
It has declared hostility on BRICS.

Yet, Africans who suffered most in the defunct, unequal, highly exploitative unipolar era cannot even voice public support for China's wildly successful economic policy with the Global South.
This is not coming from a pale, blue-eyed Caucasian. No, it's coming from a red-blooded propagandized fellow of African ancestry.
Ten million victims of King Leopold's atrocities are rolling in their grave.

That on one fine Summer day, an African would blithely say with approval that the West will rather burn the world down than let China and the Global South trade between themselves in any other currency other than a Western one. This is beyond subservience. To be a free African man choosing and proselytizing Western economic chains. Words cannot express how much of a monumental disgrace you are to your ancestry.

-Lord
All you are doing is acting like a Chinese shill

And honestly, I don't blame you for it

they are selling you impoverished folks cheap goods so it's understandable

I have put down all my points
nothing more to add
The Uighurs and the Tibet ppl, as well as their neighbours don't have anything good to say about China, but it is a negro that will praise sing China because of cheap goods that destroy local capacity in his own country, how laughable

We shall see how this ends down the road
Whether China will stay its own lane, or cross the line and get dealt with

Grab your popcorn and watch proceedings


So what the f*ck are you talking about?
The West does not want to let anyone be.
Not even its allies. It engineered the bombing of the energy infrastructure of its own ally - Germany.
It sent Japan into a thirty-year and still counting economic purgatory.
It has declared hostility on BRICS
.

The bolded further goes to show that you don't even know what you are saying or talking about

I'm sure you are one of those "not so bright" Africans that blame Plaza Accords for the decline of the Japanese economy and not the policy response of japan AFTER the accords was signed

The Plaza accord for most of the G7 countries
Germany signed
France signed
Japan signed

Why is it that it is Japan whose economy blew up,
Because they allowed an asset bubble build, and then it blew up and they are paying for it, but yes, blame America the bad guy, when it was the same evil Washington that gave market access to all these countries (including China) to come share in the prosperity
You think China will be in that position today had it been the USA did not assent to their ascension into the WTO?

Keep chest thumping and shilling for a China that is being led by a morally bankrupt regime
Let's see how it will play out when they step out of line and they get inevitably dealt with

Their capital account position from what I have gathered is already in a precarious state hence the capital controls and all that
Washington instead of them to put more pressure by placing their jackboot on the wound and let the country Bleed more, they are busy chasing rats


He even said I am a "diagrace" to my ancestors
lmaoooo
funny kid

It is free to wish this and that
But reality is much different

I think I told Gerrard59 the other day about the high stakes game UK is playing with respect to the Chinese students and researchers here in the unis...
The ambassador has been to our uni twice but we don't gaf to be very honest.
If you think you can come punk the UK in its own backyard, you must be delusional
The fruits of that will begin to manifest one to two decades from now


grin cheesy

India is buying oil from Ameeica's adversary Russia, who is fighting an illegal war in Ukraine.
So Washington should just fold its hand and let India create a room for the Russians to keep fighting this war?

Will India take it lightly with Nigeria if Nigeria is buying goods from Pakistan en masses, which in turn is helping Pakistan to propagate war in the disputed Kashmir region ?
Or other tensions between both countries


If China is such a good country and is not meddlesome, why are they bullying countries into not recognising Taiwan as its own country despite Taiwan actually being its own country?


China is the good guy yet Uighurs are still collecting woto woto from them
Or the coordinated poaching and resources stealing network they are running across Africa (refer to Ghana, Sierra Leone, Zambia and even Zimbabwe)
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Gerrard59(m): 4:42pm On Oct 19, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
All you are doing is acting like a Chinese shill. And honestly, I don't blame you for it. they are selling you impoverished folks cheap goods so it's understandable
I have noticed that Nigerians in the Western diaspora tend to be more classist than those who aren't. The IJGBs are notorious for this, but we don't read or watch similar attitudes from Ndi Malaysia and Odogwu China.

I have put down all my points
nothing more to add
The Uighurs and the Tibet ppl, as well as their neighbours don't have anything good to say about China, but it is a negro that will praise sing China because of cheap goods that destroy local capacity in his own country, how laughable
Everybody imports, and the bulk of importers in any country are the citizens. That is not China's fault. Pointing a finger at the Chinese for flooding, say, Nigeria with "cheap goods" points back at you as an Igbo man. Who are those importing "cheap goods" from China, the Chinese themselves?

We shall see how this ends down the road
Whether China will stay its own lane, or cross the line and get dealt with
I am curious, what line has China crossed? When did it become a bad thing for a country to aspire to become prosperous for its people? This thing dey like witchcraft o

Grab your popcorn and watch proceedings

The bolded further goes to show that you don't even know what you are saying or talking about

I'm sure you are one of those "not so bright" Africans that blame Plaza Accords for the decline of the Japanese economy and not the policy response of japan AFTER the accords was signed
We have touched on the Plaza Accords, so it will be humdrum to continue. But why would Russia, in dire need of funding during a war, bomb the pipelines of its biggest customer?

You think China will be in that position today had it been the USA did not assent to their ascension into the WTO?
In return, the US got cheap goods. Inflation was low. CEOs were awash with high salaries. Companies drowned in sky-touching profits. Everyone benefited. It was a mutual relationship. This accusation that only the Chinese benefited is wrong. Luxury goods companies in Europe enjoyed boom years. The German car industry enjoyed. A CEO acknowledged it.

Keep chest thumping and shilling for a China that is being led by a morally bankrupt regime
Let's see how it will play out when they step out of line and they get inevitably dealt with
"Morally bankrupt" Chimooooo!!! How is China "morally bankrupt"?

Their capital account position from what I have gathered is already in a precarious state hence the capital controls and all that
Washington instead of them to put more pressure by placing their jackboot on the wound and let the country Bleed more, they are busy chasing rats
The capital controls have always been there since the mid-2010s. Blame the GFC for it, not China.

I think I told Gerr.ard59 the other day about the high stakes game UK is playing with respect to the Chinese students and researchers here in the unis...
The ambassador has been to our uni twice but we don't gaf to be very honest.
If you think you can come punk the UK in its own backyard, you must be delusional
The fruits of that will begin to manifest one to two decades from now
Your PM is under fire for letting go of an inquiry so that the economic interests of the UK and China are not hampered. Let's see how things go with the embassy.

grin cheesy

India is buying oil from Ameeica's adversary Russia, who is fighting an illegal war in Ukraine.
So Washington should just fold its hand and let India create a room for the Russians to keep fighting this war?
In turn, Europe buys the refined oil from India. The US still buys goods from Russia. The EU still purchases crude from Russia. Thankfully, the era of "do as I say, not as I do" is dying off.

Will India take it lightly with Nigeria if Nigeria is buying goods from Pakistan en masses, which in turn is helping Pakistan to propagate war in the disputed Kashmir region ?
In this case, India's closest paddies are buying goods from Pakistan, and India itself is buying goods from Russia. Why has India not called out those paddies and itself before calling out Nigeria?

If China is such a good country and is not meddlesome, why are they bullying countries into not recognising Taiwan as its own country despite Taiwan actually being its own country?
There is only One China. That was the agreement so-called World Powers signed with China. Agreement is agreement. They can as well cross China's line to fully recognise Taiwan as the China it knows.


China is the good guy yet Uighurs are still collecting woto woto from them
Or the coordinated poaching and resources stealing network they are running across Africa (refer to Ghana, Sierra Leone, Zambia and even Zimbabwe)
The Uyghurs' claim has been disputed several times. Most times, the US is not really concerned about minority groups for humanitarian purposes, but for geopolitical reasons. This stealing of a thing is done in conjunction with the elites in those areas. In Ghana, the elites collude. In Zimbabwe, the elites ensure the Chinese set up processing facilities. The British sanctioned Zimbabwe to penury, but the Chinese are operating factories there.

So much for pillaging....
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu: 5:33pm On Oct 19, 2025
@Gerrard59

The Uyghurs' claim has been disputed several times. Most times, the US is not really concerned about minority groups for humanitarian purposes, but for geopolitical reasons. This stealing of a thing is done in conjunction with the elites in those areas. In Ghana, the elites collude. In Zimbabwe, the elites ensure the Chinese set up processing facilities. The British sanctioned Zimbabwe to penury, but the Chinese are operating factories there.

Its the same way Russia is not at war with Ukraine but is still doing a "special military operation"
Let us all be deceiving ourselves

The West is imperialist but the Chinese are not
Lets keep fooling

Second you say that the african elite is in cahoots with the Chinese in plundering their countries
But thats the same thing the west is doing with the african elite in west African and the wider African countries

So its a case of two powers taking advantage of a dull elite


I have noticed that Nigerians in the Western diaspora tend to be more classist than those who aren't. The IJGBs are notorious for this, but we don't read or watch similar attitudes from Ndi Malaysia and Odogwu China.

Well, what i SAID IS THE TRUTH and is NOT classost in anyways
That country/continent is poor and wretched so buying of cheap products as a lifeline is understandable
If you think otherwise, then you are being delusional to say the very least

Your PM is under fire for letting go of an inquiry so that the economic interests of the UK and China are not hampered. Let's see how things go with the embassy

China is NOT gonna punk us in our backyard
That's all imma say on this matter
Starmer has said it himself that china is still an adversary that should be treated as one, and we are taking counter measures against that, hence the apprehension from Beijing
Like you said, let's see how it plays out as time goes on

We have touched on the Plaza Accords, so it will be humdrum to continue. But why would Russia, in dire need of funding during a war, bomb the pipelines of its biggest customer

We cant say for sure that it is the Americans either, so it's all speculation


Everybody imports, and the bulk of importers in any country are the citizens. That is not China's fault. Pointing a finger at the Chinese for flooding, say, Nigeria with "cheap goods" points back at you as an Igbo man. Who are those importing "cheap goods" from China, the Chinese themselves?

China has a deliberate trade policy (which contravenes WTO provisions btw) surrounding dumping and export subsidies
So that is the pull factor, therefore renders the Chinese complicit in their dealings with african countries
If a Western country tried same on the scale china is doing theirs, they would be banged up
Go read up on it and see for yourself


The capital controls have always been there since the mid-2010s. Blame the GFC for it, not China.

Apparently you do not understand why I referenced that

Capital controls is a sign of structural weakness in the macroeconomy, and can and will be a pain point if Washington and Beijing goes into full blown confrontation


In return, the US got cheap goods. Inflation was . CEOs were awash with high salaries. Companies drowned in sky-touching profits. Everyone benefited. It was a mutual relationship. This accusation that only the Chinese benefited is wrong. Luxury goods companies in Europe enjoyed boom years. The German car industry enjoyed. A CEO acknowledged it.

All these does not negate my point that it was the west giving a seat to china on that table that turbo charged their economy
Obviously there were transmitted benefits to the west, but they were the developed country and china the shytehole country prior to the ascension and allowing western capital pour into china

Cuba and North Korea will kill for that
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu: 5:49pm On Oct 19, 2025
Well I have responded to as much points as I can @Gerrard59

You know my position on the matter

I know your own position as well

Lets keep watching as the game gets played and see how the world navigates through the perilous time its in, and whether Washington will allow Beijing punk it or not
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by RodgersAkpafu: 1:19pm On Oct 20, 2025
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by pansophist(op): 1:30pm On Oct 20, 2025
This answer was written by an Canadian-Egyptian quoran named Ismail Bashmori, He has (or quora) deleted the answer, but his write-up was so deep, that even after two years of reading it, I saved it and read it once a while. Enjoy


AS an Egyptian, I have been studying China intensely for the past year — its government, society, history, and transformation.

I’ve spoken to hundreds of Chinese and China-haters and heard everything they had to say. By now I’ve learned roughly as much about China as anyone can learn without knowing the language or living in the country, and I’ve reached my conclusion. China attracts a lot of haters, know-nothings and armchair experts.

The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far.

It is the first nonwhite, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do.

Forty years ago a flush toilet in China was a luxury. Today it has its own Space Station. This is a tiny example of China’s capabilities.
It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans.

Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis.

Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl.

China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically.
China is also standing up to the West all by herself.

The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes.

China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979.
China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West.

To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India.

The 1500s—1000s BC were Egypt’s time. Antiquity belonged to the Greeks and Romans. The 1700s belonged to France, and the 1800s to Britain. From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship. And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it.

There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia. But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America? They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery. Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does.

But in the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China. We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria — but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence.

The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments that want to stay on top of the world for eternity. And the truth is that China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies.

For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP — not even able to prevent famine.

And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now? China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that. The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year to become the world’s largest by 2035. That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill.

The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants, recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along. Has any of it made a difference? China can adapt to any situation. It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress from participating in the “International” Space Station, to building its own Space Station from zero.

See, the US has an $800-billion war budget, 800 military bases, 13,000 aircraft, 500 warships, 6,000 nukes — but it doesn’t have what China has: invincible national resolve. It takes the US about 5 years to renovate a bridge, and it takes China 43 hours. There’s simply no competing with that.

China doesn’t need to be a military superpower or empire. That was never part of the plan. US troops, God bless their souls, will continue sitting in their bases, scratching their balls, costing their government $800 billion a year to do nothing. Meanwhile, China will continue to actually develop.

That’s the part of the equation that America totally missed, because it has barely developed since Reagan’s day. China is a better place to live today than at any time in its previous 5,000 years; Americans saw their highest standard of living in the 1960s and those days will never come back.

So yes, China will be the next global power, and the Chinese are vastly superior to us in every way. This is a fact that everyone can attack but that nobody can change, like the theory of evolution.

Look at you silly buggers, talking about China like it’s going to be the next Nazi Germany. Even many Middle Easterners I know fit in this foolish category. Did you notice when the US invaded or overthrew the governments of 20 countries in the past 32 years (my lifetime)?

Did you even know? You think just because you’re ready to forget all that because of Beyoncé and Game of Thrones and Snapchat and other US cultural exports, it didn’t happen.

The US is feeding me terror-bytes about Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet, Tiananmen Square, Great Leap Forward! I don’t see any dead bodies, I can’t show you one invasion or one example of Chinese regime change, I can’t even find Hong Kong on a map or tell you one factual detail about Tiananmen Square, but the US State Department and all its media are telling me CHINA BAD!

Aren’t you at least curious to see what a world with a nonwhite, non-Western leader might look like, after 400 years? Because God knows that leader won’t be us. It won’t be Brazil or Africa, or the Middle East or India or Indonesia or Nigeria or Pakistan. We’re a mess.

China was a mess too. But we remain a mess many decades after we achieved independence, and the Chinese went their own way, disentangled their mess and created their destiny. We’re not made of what the Chinese are made of.

I see China as hope. Hope that a colonised, brutalised, primitive and humiliated country, can rise above its past — refuse to be weak any longer — rebuild itself from nothing, with iron resolve, and become too strong to be overrun by the West again!

Hope that a nonwhite, non-Western country can look deep within itself and find its own solutions to its problems — proving that (foolishly) trusting the West to guide us isn’t necessary! Proof that if we can do what the Chinese did, there will be no limits for us.

Imagine a world where the US, France, Britain, Australia, are no more important than Uzbekistan or Paraguay. A world where the World Court might be headquartered in Kuala Lumpur, the World Bank in New Delhi, the United Nations in Jakarta, the IMF in Cairo.

A world liberated from the US banking system and the dollar as its reserve currency, so that Washington can no longer tell 200 other countries who they can and can’t trade with. A world where an American can be tried for war crimes at the Hague, not just an Iraqi or Liberian or Serb.

A world where we don’t hear about a non-Western-made vaccine and grunt to ourselves, Oh, it must be poison. A world where we don’t have to immigrate to the same countries that turned ours into hellholes, to work as sales clerks or taxi drivers, or even if we’re brilliantly employed — to drain our brains from our homelands in the best of cases, and use them to reinforce Western riches and supremacy in exchange for a fat paycheck, instead of using them to make our own countries semi-habitable.

When I hear that China has built its own Space Station, landed a rover on Mars, ended extreme poverty, built the Earth’s biggest city, dam, telescope, 5G network, highway, air purifier, or whatever the heck it is that will come tomorrow — I feel the same pride as if I were Chinese.
It’s not happening for all of us, but it’s happening for one of us and that’s a start.

There’s got to be such a thing as developing-country nationalism — a common nationalism for all the countries that were colonised and plundered, and remain economically and politically captured by their ex-rulers.

A nationalism for the Global South. We are too divided, too brainwashed, too fooled and weak — most of us still worship the countries that destroyed us, are non-Western on the outside and Western on the inside, are hating and fearing and buying all the lies about the only one of us that’s made it, and are leaving our countries in droves to let them burn while we “make a better life for ourselves” in the West.

Do you want to live on a Western-dominated Earth for another 400 years? If you do, keep doing what you’re doing. But I don’t!
You know what’ll happen for all of us if America’s sick wishes come true and its global thuggery does make China collapse? Nothing. Eternal repetition of the status quo. More enslavement, hijacking of our resources and weak corrupt governments, neo-colonialism, invasion, regime change, sanctions, MISERY.

Haven’t we already seen this? Libya, Cuba, Venezuela, Yugoslavia, Belarus, Iraq, Iran, Vietnam, the Soviet Union. Rest in peace. Even FRANCE and JAPAN for God’s sake. What does the United States do when any other country says NO, or simply becomes too powerful, too good at honest competition?

Japan was a Western-style democracy crawling with US troops, with a US-authored pacifist constitution and almost no military and an extremely pro-US government and populace, and it STILL got crushed when it looked like it would become the #1 economy in the 80s.

I remember 10–15 years ago when China was still relatively poor and impotent, and Bush and Obama would talk about China as sweetly as swans. Obama happily had dinner with Xi Jinping in late 2015, called China a crucial partner of the United States, and said the US welcomed China’s rise; it was all horseshit.

Today Biden, who was there with Obama in late 2015 as Vice-President, angrily rebukes a reporter who merely said that Biden and Xi were old friends. America has taken off its mask.

China made it, it wasn’t supposed to make it, so now it must die. What a difference 5 years can make. China went from “crucial partner” to “number one threat.”

We should be helping and supporting China to keep climbing to the top, and giving her some serious solidarity as she withstands the new Cold War of Western imperialism. It’s been a long 400 years. China is the first non-Western country to even come close to reaching a status of ultimate global importance.

She is akin to the the first member of an impoverished family to go to university. That is our family of nations. And when China gets to the top, believe me, it won’t be a repeat of the French, British, or American Empire. Not a single developing country on earth will be worse-off because of China becoming #1. There will be something good in this for all of us, so let’s wake up.
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by pansophist(op): 1:51pm On Oct 20, 2025
Understanding the scam (overbloating) of US economy and ''high'' GDP.

If the US measures its economy like how the Chinese or Russian measures theirs, the US will not be the number one economy.

https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-fraudulent-matrix-of-us-economic-statistics/

You cannot tell me that the US is the number one economy but most of its citizens spend tomorrow's fortune for today (live in debt). An economy where service makes up over 70% of its output, and manufacturing makes up measly around 10%.

A country that does not produce anything the world wants except bombs, killings, war and poorn.

The US knows this, they know the scam economy there are running, hence they are terrified to death of any country growing organically, and must bring them down.

But again, there is China, and I wish them goodluck trying to bring China down grin

Anglo-American empire days are number. Just the next five years will spell doom for the hegemon.
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Kaczynski: 3:11pm On Oct 20, 2025
pansophist:
Understanding the scam (overbloating) of US economy and ''high'' GDP.

If the US measures its economy like how the Chinese or Russian measures theirs, the US will not be the number one economy.

https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-fraudulent-matrix-of-us-economic-statistics/

You cannot tell me that the US is the number one economy but most of its citizens spend tomorrow's fortune for today (live in debt). An economy where service makes up over 70% of its output, and manufacturing makes up measly around 10%.

A country that does not produce anything the world wants except bombs, killings, war and poorn.

The US knows this, they know the scam economy there are running, hence they are terrified to death of any country growing organically, and must bring them down.

But again, there is China, and I wish them goodluck trying to bring China down grin

Anglo-American empire days are number. Just the next five years will spell doom for the hegemon.
The US is gradually crumbling and funny thing is we are going to witness it


history always repeats itself, last decade was the soviet union, previous was rome, greece
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by LordAdam16: 3:12pm On Oct 20, 2025
pansophist:
This answer was written by an Canadian-Egyptian quoran named Ismail Bashmori, He has (or quora) deleted the answer, but his write-up was so deep, that even after two years of reading it, I saved it and read it once a while. Enjoy
Not my first time reading it.

11/10.

-Lord
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by motayoayinde: 3:33pm On Oct 20, 2025
pansophist:
This answer was written by an Canadian-Egyptian quoran named Ismail Bashmori, He has (or quora) deleted the answer, but his write-up was so deep, that even after two years of reading it, I saved it and read it once a while. Enjoy
Fantastic read!
I thoroughly enjoyed this.
Thanks for sharing.
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Gerrard59(m): 5:04am On Oct 24, 2025
"Every accusation is a confession"

What this West vs East rivalry and economic warfare has taught me is that whatever the US-led West accuses one of, it is that very thing they are doing or plan to do. Take this Nexperia saga: we are told by th US-led West that companies should be wary of doing business in China because the CCP would seize their businesses or shut them down. Now, we see the US coercing the Netherlands to take over a thriving company from its rightful owners.

It is a lesson, though: when one accuses you of something you have never done, know that the accuser is planning to do the same, has done it and is doing it.

Every accusation is a confession
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by pansophist(op):
Kaczynski:
The US is gradually crumbling and funny thing is we are going to witness it


history always repeats itself, last decade was the soviet union, previous was rome, greece
Their fake empire couldn’t even fight peer competitors one-on-one. They can only hide behind “allies” and “proxies”, and propaganda.

If the world is a jungle, who between a lion and a monkey needs an ally? If you’re strong and can defend yourself, do you need an ally?

The only country that China has a military pact with is North Korea, for obvious reasons, but China does not need an ally because its strong.

The US have fought the Chinese army three times and they lost woefully. First one was in the Chinese civil war, then in Korea, and in Vietnam.

This was a period where the Chinese army was still in its baby form and haven’t reached the level it is today. With all their coalition back then, China defeated the US.

So far, the Korean War is the only war is the only war the US haven’t done a movie about, because there is just no way they can lie and spin the narrative to make them appear as a winner.

The new China will beat the US like a Lion playing with a rat, and the US knows these hence, they just scream like monkeys from far but won’t go fight one on one.

With all their nato coalition, they shamefully hide behind Ukraine like losers expecting Ukraine to win a war they can’t win themselves.

In the rank of the weakest global empire that ever existed, the Anglo-American empire ranks as the weakest. If I will applaud them for one thing, it’s their creativity in propaganda that depends on your bias to thrive.

But if you scratch a bit, you see that the emperor is actually naked with severe disease and dementia
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by stanluiz(m): 8:16pm On Oct 24, 2025
pansophist:
Their fake empire couldn’t even fight peer competitors one-on-one. They can only hide behind “allies” and “proxies”, and propaganda.

If the world is a jungle, who between a lion and a monkey needs an ally? If you’re strong and can defend yourself, do you need an ally?

The only country that China has a military pact with is North Korea, for obvious reasons, but China does not need an ally because its strong.

The US have fought the Chinese army three times and they lost woefully. First one was in the Chinese civil war, then in Korea, and in Vietnam.

This was a period where the Chinese army was still in its baby form and haven’t reached the level it is today. Either all their coalition back then, China defeated the US.

So far, the Korean War is the only war is the only war the US haven’t done a movie about, because there is just no way they can lie and spin the narrative to make them appear as a winner.

The new China will beat the US like a Lion playing with a rat, and the US knows these hence, they just scream like monkeys from far but won’t go fight one on one.

With all their nato coalition, they shamefully hide behind Ukraine like losers expecting Ukraine to win a war they can’t win themselves.

In the rank of the weakest global empire that ever existed, the Anglo-American empire ranks as the weakest. If I will applaud them for one thing, it’s their creativity in propaganda that depends on your bias to thrive.

But if you scratch a bit, you see that the emperor is actually naked with severe disease and dementia
Us and it's allies grin grin

But true true. America does not have allies. What they have is vassals. Looks at how trump is treating Ukraine and the rest of the EU. He has already thrown Ukraine under the bus. He treats EU nations as if they are his slaves.

The same with Japan and Korea with his nonsense tarrifs. Just last month, ICE arrest Korean engineers working in Hyundai car plant in Georgia. Put them in chains and handcuff and deport them like Criminal.

I saw the video on YouTube and It shocked me shocked A whole Korea professionals treated like people from poor third world nations.

I fear who no fear US.


Henry Kissinger — 'It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Gerrard59(m): 4:59pm On Oct 31, 2025
This article by an assistant professor at Cambridge University summarises the growth of China and how it benefits the world.

See here: https://www.theglobalcurrents.com/p/embracing-chinas-economic-rise?r=5jvrbk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Towards the end, he writes with supporting evidence how China's rise has aided developing countries in the Global South, especially African nations. Furthermore, he stated (with evidence) how China has never seized, sanctioned or used severe penalties to usurp loans or investments across the continent. He also stated that American companies and consumers have benefited immensely from doing business in and with China.

There is nothing that he has written that I have not written. The rise of China has benefited everyone across the world, and as he ended, what benefits the Chinese people would benefit the rest of the world because China has 17% of the world's population.

When I first came across his tweets, especially as they are "pro-China" whereas he is a prof at an acclaimed Western institution, I thought he was funded by Chinese think-tanks or related bodies. Apparently, he is not funded by Chinese institutions or people, as it would have been uncovered.

Nevertheless, to read such a strong defence of China from a Westerner (Jostein Hauge) in an elite university is refreshing.

His Twitter account: https://x.com/haugejostein
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Olamilekxy(m): 5:44pm On Nov 02, 2025
You people aren't commenting on recent US comment about Nigeria. We would love to hear from you people
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by pansophist(op): 2:26pm On Nov 03, 2025
Just in case you need another perspective why the west are so obsessed with conquering Russia, take a look at this map.

The circled tiny green country below is Bangladesh, while the red one above is Russia, and Bangladesh have more population than Russia.

Russia is at least twice larger than contiguous USA, and the most resource rich country in the world and arguably the only country than can go completely autarkic and will be just fine.

If any country is a natural superpower by the very virtue of its existence, it’s Russia.

Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Raalsalghul: 8:40pm On Nov 03, 2025
pansophist:
Just in case you need another perspective why the west are so obsessed with conquering Russia, take a look at this map.

The circled tiny green country below is Bangladesh, while the red one above is Russia, and Bangladesh have more population than Russia.

Russia is at least twice larger than contiguous USA, and the most resource rich country in the world and arguably the only country than can go completely autarkic and will be just fine.

If any country is a natural superpower by the very virtue of its existence, it’s Russia.
But most of those land space are unliveable: unsuitable for human residence.
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by pansophist(op): 9:30pm On Nov 03, 2025
Raalsalghul:
But most of those land space are unliveable: unsuitable for human residence.
Doesn’t have to be habitable for human, when resources are buried deep under it.

Besides, to be in control of such huge territory is a flex that brings immense power that is unimaginable.

Russia’s huge landmass made it possible to be an artic power, a privilege most countries wish they had.

Russia has more trees, nature, and the natural resources and blessings that comes with having such territory.

It’s easier to defend a huge territory than a smaller one, it’s paradoxical I know, but it’s the fact.

There is a reason that superpowers always have a huge territory, and each superpowers wants to break the other into smaller pieces.

If the territories are meaningless because they are inhabitable, then the west won’t be dying to break it apart. America won’t buy Alaska and there would be not be colonies in Antarctica.
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by pansophist(op): 9:42pm On Nov 03, 2025
Olamilekxy:
You people aren't commenting on recent US comment about Nigeria. We would love to hear from you people
Everyone here sees the game for what it is.

If the US cares about Nigerian Christians, the right way would be to support Nigeria with intelligence, weapons and coordinate with the Nigerian government to end this threat.

The right way is not to violate our sovereignty and just go throw bombs. This is what they accuse Russia for in Ukraine, and now, they want to do it elsewhere.

The US can’t hide its mask anymore.

The real reason for going into Nigeria (if they will ever go) is for geopolitical calculations and money.

I suspect that Nigeria’s rare earth is the target, possible oil and other natural resources in the land. Christian massacre is just an excuse.

There is no single country that got better after the US intervened militarily, not one, and Nigeria won’t be different.

Just reading about this on social media and how lots of Nigerians welcome the move is just so sad, and showed that we actually love our chains.
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Kaczynski: 12:21am On Nov 04, 2025
pansophist:
Everyone here sees the game for what it is.

If the US cares about Nigerian Christians, the right way would be to support Nigeria with intelligence, weapons and coordinate with the Nigerian government to end this threat.

The right way is not to violate our sovereignty and just go throw bombs. This is what they accuse Russia for in Ukraine, and now, they want to do it elsewhere.

The US can’t hide its mask anymore.

The real reason for going into Nigeria (if they will ever go) is for geopolitical calculations and money.

I suspect that Nigeria’s rare earth is the target, possible oil and other natural resources in the land. Christian massacre is just an excuse.

There is no single country that got better after the US intervened militarily, not one, and Nigeria won’t be different.

Just reading about this on social media and how lots of Nigerians welcome the move is just so sad, and showed that we actually love our chains.
Re: Multipolarism Versus Hegemonism - The Great Power Shift Of The 21st Century by Kaczynski: 12:35am On Nov 04, 2025
pansophist:
Everyone here sees the game for what it is.

If the US cares about Nigerian Christians, the right way would be to support Nigeria with intelligence, weapons and coordinate with the Nigerian government to end this threat.


The right way is not to violate our sovereignty and just go throw bombs. This is what they accuse Russia for in Ukraine, and now, they want to do it elsewhere.

The US can’t hide its mask anymore.

The real reason for going into Nigeria (if they will ever go) is for geopolitical calculations and money.

I suspect that Nigeria’s rare earth is the target, possible oil and other natural resources in the land. Christian massacre is just an excuse.

There is no single country that got better after the US intervened militarily, not one, and Nigeria won’t be different.

Just reading about this on social media and how lots of Nigerians welcome the move is just so sad, and showed that we actually love our chains.
that is utterly wrong , the west have been supportive in sharing intel with nigeria. in the recent years nigeria has been squashing bugs in drug trafficking thanks to cooperation between interpol, dea and ndlea. terrorism is an entire different ball game

russia is no different from the US , both has numerous agendas which may be or not beneficial


is south korea a joke to you ?


if you think bunch of yt men defending your land which you cant even do is the problem, then you are the problem.
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