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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Risingcash94: 10:36pm On Oct 12, 2025
Hmm that's high o. Ok



kristien4:
Stanbic ibtc
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kristien4(m): 11:16pm On Oct 12, 2025
Risingcash94:
I have never experienced this with GTB. I always use them
Did GTB pay interest upfront?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Risingcash94: 9:02am On Oct 13, 2025
Yes. I do both. Some I reinvest while some I take upfront.


kristien4:
Did GTB pay interest upfront?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by inze(m): 11:30am On Oct 13, 2025
enque:
By the time the 91 days elapse and you wanna re-invest, there is a probability that rates might have gone lower for both 91 days and 364 days tenor.

Remember you do not have any control over these rates going up or down.
#My2Cents
petux:
sorry to ask but why would anyone invest in the 364 days @ 18% when they can get just do 91 days @ 15% and even compound the money quickly? or i'm not getting something right?
to add to the above

Even if you compound interest of 91days x 3 it won't amount to that of 365Days. For example, 18% at 365 days for 5m gives you 900k(lets not talk deductions now)

But 15% at 91days for 5m gives you 187,500 (if you succefully get same rate x 4 to make up for 1year = 750,000 still short of 150k grin)

egbon Sodiqqi grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 4:13pm On Oct 13, 2025
Available commercial papers.

Dlm capital and Dangote Sugar Refinery

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Alaska90(m): 4:33pm On Oct 13, 2025
Odunharry:
Available commercial papers.

Dlm capital and Dangote Sugar Refinery
Please can you shed more light on this commercial papers. I just got one offer too from Meristem for PAYAZA AFRICA LTD commercial paper. But I will prefer the Dangonte one. Please can you talk about the risk level, yield value vs Discount rate, how to know which company one to buy etc ....just general knowledge please if you can
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 9:52am On Oct 14, 2025
Alaska90:
Please can you shed more light on this commercial papers. I just got one offer too from Meristem for PAYAZA AFRICA LTD commercial paper. But I will prefer the Dangonte one. Please can you talk about the risk level, yield value vs Discount rate, how to know which company one to buy etc ....just general knowledge please if you can
Commercial paper is short term unsecured instrument(doesn't exceed a year) issued by corporates to fund short term obligations.. They are issued for various reason. See it as similar to Tbills, but here, it's issued by corporate entities and atimes government . It's one of the most attractive available instrument and they are issued at discounted.
value.

Cp like other investment is not risk free. One is it's not easily tradable before maturity, failure of issuer to pay it's investors etc.

Take Dangote Sugar Refinery for example, it has brand reputation, this is not the first time it's coming out to sell cp, I don't think Dangote has defaulted in payment.

Please conduct your due diligence on the issuer(company), Check your risk appetite also, Check their ratings, financials, reputation, history and seek advice from your financial adviser
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Donbrig: 3:29pm On Oct 14, 2025
Please somebody could help us with the 4th Quarter 2025 calender for treasury bill auctions, thanks in anticipation..
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gotocourt: 7:12pm On Oct 14, 2025
Odunharry:
Commercial paper is short term unsecured instrument(doesn't exceed a year) issued by corporates to fund short term obligations.. They are issued for various reason. See it as similar to Tbills, but here, it's issued by corporate entities and atimes government . It's one of the most attractive available instrument and they are issued at discounted.
value.

Cp like other investment is not risk free. One is it's not easily tradable before maturity, failure of issuer to pay it's investors etc.

Take Dangote Sugar Refinery for example, it has brand reputation, this is not the first time it's coming out to sell cp, I don't think Dangote has defaulted in payment.

Please conduct your due diligence on the issuer(company), Check your risk appetite also, Check their ratings, financials, reputation, history and seek advice from your financial adviser
Mutual funds 🙌, slow and steady 🤷🏿
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 8:06pm On Oct 14, 2025
Gotocourt:
Mutual funds 🙌, slow and steady 🤷🏿
Both are still good
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 11:01am On Oct 16, 2025
With the way inflation numbers are going, expect lower rates everywhere across all fixed income-related investment windows, but DON'T STOP INVESTING, you can only change strategy, don't stop if you still want to win in this investment game
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01:
Quite right ✅👍wink
emmasoft:
With the way inflation numbers are going, expect lower rates everywhere across all fixed income-related investment windows, but DON'T STOP INVESTING, you can only change strategy, don't stop if you still want to win in this investment game
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kristien4(m): 1:57pm On Oct 16, 2025
emmasoft:
With the way inflation numbers are going, expect lower rates everywhere across all fixed income-related investment windows, but DON'T STOP INVESTING, you can only change strategy, don't stop if you still want to win in this investment game
pls whats the date for the next primary auction?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by inze(m): 2:23pm On Oct 16, 2025
kristien4:
pls whats the date for the next primary auction?
Oct. 22nd 2025
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 3:06am On Oct 17, 2025
skydiver01:
"Why the Drop in FGN Bond Yields Signals a Stronger Economy
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Not against the narrative of your post but it makes me wonder.

Over the past years whenever rates shot up, we had people chorusing how that was the best for the Nigerian economy saying it'd bring foreign investment. When questions were asked where the money to repay would come from, it was rebuffed. Now the rates are dropping, another group is telling us to be happy. Just wondering how we marry the two.

Secondly, if rates start to rise in say 1yr under this government what would folks now telling us low rates are good say?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 7:51am On Oct 17, 2025
jedisco:
Not against the narrative of your post but it makes me wonder.

Over the past years whenever rates shot up, we had people chorusing how that was the best for the Nigerian economy saying it'd bring foreign investment. When questions were asked where the money to repay would come from, it was rebuffed. Now the rates are dropping, another group is telling us to be happy. Just wondering how we marry the two.

Secondly, if rates start to rise in say 1yr under this government what would folks now telling us low rates are good say?
@Jedisco your observation is correct, the truth is that both regime are beneficial but the low rate regime is better because it actually means better value of your currency. The high rate regime benefits those with so called hot money both local and foreign and generally the fixed income investors, low rate benefit is general even the man on the street gets the positve benefits. The equity investors are expected to smile too.

High rate means more money but low value, while low rate less money but more value.

So the high rate benefit more of those who already has money but the low rate cuts across all income levels even the government has some relief during low rate because the cost of borrowing reduces likewise businesses strive better since they can also borrow at low rate.

While high rate has some advantages particularly to some segment of investors, the low rate has better and it's prefered.

In all as I will always advice don't stop investing but you can always change strategy.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 8:02am On Oct 17, 2025
emmasoft:
@Jedisco your observation is correct, the truth is that both regime are beneficial but the low rate regime is better because it actually means better value of your currency. The high rate regime benefits those with so called hot money both local and foreign and generally the fixed income investors, low rate benefit is general even the man on the street gets the positve benefits. The equity investors are expected to smile too.

While high rate has some advantages particularly to some segment of investors, the low rate has better and it's prefered.

In all as I will always advice don't stop investing but you can always change strategy.
Im referring to the economy here.

An advantage could be crafted out for anything even the insecurity menace today is benefiting some people. That does not mean it does us any good.

In todays world where money is printed out of thin air, high bond rates are a clear sign of a weak economy and should raise serious questions from the populace. Instead when rates were high, people were telling us how it's good for the economy. Now it's going down, were being told to rejoice too. The focus seems to be on singing the praises of the government even if millions of Nigerians become more impoverished.


P.s I'm not against temporary high rates when done appropriately and as a last resort to stablise the market but the reason why we got there should be clear so same mistakes don't repeat.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01:
I understand your point re: people chorusing when rates are/were high.

Some investors took the risk by switching to bonds to lock it higher rates for multiple years which are longer than TBill tenures. High rates benefit investors seeking high yields (currency devaluation risks aside).

That said, in general and regardless of what people may be chorusing about (high or low rates), lower rates support real economic growth notably by reducing the cost of capital investments and borrowing. Some refer to this as to support Main Street economic growth (all things being equal because Nigerian commercial banks don't necessarily bring down borrowing rates sufficiently to reflect levels in the bond market).

Furthermore, my post was simply to highlight what was occurring in the Nigerian bond market (falling yields) not the Nigerian economy wink

jedisco:
Not against the narrative of your post but it makes me wonder.

Over the past years whenever rates shot up, we had people chorusing how that was the best for the Nigerian economy saying it'd bring foreign investment. When questions were asked where the money to repay would come from, it was rebuffed. Now the rates are dropping, another group is telling us to be happy. Just wondering how we marry the two.

Secondly, if rates start to rise in say 1yr under this government what would folks now telling us low rates are good say?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Foodempire: 2:55pm On Oct 18, 2025
The is my concern, cost of things are not going down but rates are being sliced every two weeks. The price of regular Uber corolla still stands at 9-10m, how are we benefiting from this so called low inflation only stated on paper but not being felt by the citizens?

emmasoft:
High rate means more money but low value, while low rate less money but more value.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m):
Foodempire:
The is my concern, cost of things are not going down but rates are being sliced every two weeks. The price of regular Uber corolla still stands at 9-10m, how are we benefiting from this so called low inflation only stated on paper but not being felt by the citizens?
This is a common misconception. Prices are still rising.

Inflation dropping from 30 to 20% does not mean prices have dropped 10%. It means the rate of rise in prices have reduced. I.e whereas things were increasing by 30% every year, they are now increasing by 20%.

So the 18% being touted though an improvement is insanely high.
To put things in perspective, at a steady 30% inflation per year, your naira loses half of its value in 2.5 years. At 18%, it's 4 years (i.e, the rule of 72). Infact, that's something to remember when praise singers want us to celebrate the 18% that's impoverishing Nigerians at an astonishing rate.

Taking the Corolla example you used, though inflation varies from by sector to sector and a car is not a good example as it has an underlying devaluation and it's s price is partly dependent on forex, but to illustrate, if annual inflation sits at 20% in the used car sector, all it means is that prices today are 20% higher than last year. Not that prices have dropped. We can then extrapolate that if car inflation this time next year has 'fallen' to 10%, that corolla may be worth 10-11m

Actual drop in prices is called deflation
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 8:21pm On Oct 18, 2025
skydiver01:
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That said, in general and regardless of what people may be chorusing about (high or low rates), lower rates support real economic growth notably by reducing the cost of capital investments and borrowing. Some refer to this as to support Main Street economic growth (all things being equal because Nigerian commercial banks don't necessarily bring down borrowing rates sufficiently to reflect levels in the bond market)...
Well said. I agree with you on this
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01:
I agree re: reduction in the rate (pace) of price increases and I think you meant to say actual drop in prices is called deflation wink
jedisco:
.....

Actula drop in prices is called devaluation
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 4:08pm On Oct 19, 2025
skydiver01:
I agree re: reduction in the rate (pace) of price increases and I think you meant to say actual drop in prices is called deflation wink
True. Mistake by autocorrect. Now corrected
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 8:59pm On Oct 19, 2025
Next auction is Wednesday 22nd October, 2025
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 3:53pm On Oct 21, 2025
Against tomorrow's NTB Auction.. Place your bid with your account officer on time

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by uwaifou(m): 5:04am On Oct 22, 2025
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Rejoize: 2:18pm On Oct 22, 2025
Odunharry:
Against tomorrow's NTB Auction.. Place your bid with your account officer on time
Can you please explain how I can place a bid at the primary auction.My account officer has been blocking my effort to by TB for months now. She is pitching fixed deposit to me which I'm not intrested in.
Is there any other way I can go about this.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 4:24pm On Oct 22, 2025
Rejoize:
Can you please explain how I can place a bid at the primary auction.My account officer has been blocking my effort to by TB for months now. She is pitching fixed deposit to me which I'm not intrested in.
Is there any other way I can go about this.
Kindly send a mail to the bank or visit the bank branch to express your displeasure.
Another thing is to reach out to other banks you have account with. Just move your funds if it's possible for them to treat.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by enque(f): 9:38pm On Oct 22, 2025
Tb rates 22/10/25

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Odunharry(m): 9:59pm On Oct 22, 2025
enque:
Tb rates 22/10/25
Well done..
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by heavenisreal18: 10:29pm On Oct 24, 2025
Good evening, pls my investment matured yesterday and I got the money credited into my account yesterday, this evening I noticed they deducted 11k from my account calling it WHT T bill,this has never happened to me before .Help me
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