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MaxInDHouse:
Your first quote is talking about how God chooses those who will go to heaven not when they are going and your second quote talks about how they will move as spirit creatures!

Hence you were asked:
When will this "eternal life on earth" happen? Before or after they have "gone to heaven to be with the Lord FOREVER?"

DiarisGodoo:
They're obviously not in any grave. Those not cremated have long since been consumed by worms

Now you are saying exactly what the Bible says because the dead are never conscious so their bodies gets rotten in Hell (Grave) only their bones lasts.🙂

DiarisGodoo:
Hence you were asked:
When will this "eternal life on earth" happen? Before or after they have "gone to heaven to be with the Lord FOREVER?"

You are getting things right as you avoid that umbilical term RAPTURE.

It's after they gets to heaven because then Jesus will come back to the earth as a spirit king to destroy all evildoers {Revelations 19:11 compare to Luke 19:27} and since these BORN AGAIN Christians were chosen from all the tribes of the earth each one armed will concentrate on the geographic location where those speaking his or her own mother tongue lives in order to destroy anyone making life unbearable for their fellow believers in Christ there! Revelations 19:14-15

MaxInDHouse:
Now you are saying exactly what the Bible says because the dead are never conscious so their bodies gets rotten in Hell (Grave) only their bones lasts.🙂

Bones? Burried human bones that can be completely gone within 20 years, talkless of thousands of years!

MaxInDHouse:
You are getting things right as you avoid that umbilical term RAPTURE.

It's after they gets to heaven because then Jesus will come back to the earth as a spirit king to destroy all evildoers {Revelations 19:11 compare to Luke 19:27} and since these BORN AGAIN Christians were chosen from all the tribes of the earth each one armed will concentrate on the geographic location where those speaking his or her own mother tongue lives in order to destroy anyone making life unbearable for their fellow believers in Christ there! Revelations 19:14-15

Did you see the "forever" in the statement?

DiarisGodoo:
Bones? Burried human bones that can be completely gone within 20 years, talkless of thousands of years!

No you are wrong because even the hairs on our heads do last more than hundreds of thousands of years.
There were no scientists when Jesus told us:

"The hairs of your head are all numbered" Matthew 10:30

His first century disciples may not get the perfect sense of what Jesus said unlike you and i who have access to scientific discoveries today.

So what Jesus is saying in essence is that our body members are recorded in God's memory book for remembrance during resurrection! John 5:28-29

If you doubt this please check the Google for more information on how long human hairs and bones do last!🙂

DiarisGodoo:
Did you see the "forever" in the statement?

Forever is what humans like you think but the Creator said He has the power and willing to call back the dead no matter how long they are in their graves! Job 14:13-15

MaxInDHouse:
Forever is what humans like you think but the Creator said He has the power and willing to call back the dead no matter how long they are in their graves! Job 14:13-15

Oh, it is not what I think at all. See it below, written clearly in the Bible

MaxInDHouse:
No you are wrong because even the hairs on our heads do last more than hundreds of thousands of years.
There were no scientists when Jesus told us:

"The hairs of your head are all numbered" Matthew 10:30

His first century disciples may not get the perfect sense of what Jesus said unlike you and i who have access to scientific discoveries today.

So what Jesus is saying in essence is that our body members are recorded in God's memory book for remembrance during resurrection! John 5:28-29

If you doubt this please check the Google for more information on how long human hairs and bones do last!🙂

Have you tried Google? How about those cremated. Don't be arguing nonsense, instead argue that it is not physical - that will make more sense

DiarisGodoo:
Oh, it is not what I think at all. See it below, written clearly in the Bible

Oh if that is what you mean it's correct because they will never ever come back as humans again.

UkoAnnang:


There's no hell fire anywhere

The hell fire story is one of the religious antiquities.

The story of hell in the Bible was a Jewish customs of how they buried evil people when they died. Rather than buried them in hell (grave) they throw them into fire, a refuge dump behind the Jericho wall where there burn them with refuge there during harmattan winter.

This doctrine was also attested to our traditional ancestors beliefs where wicked people where buried in the evil forest without a proper burial.
I remember when I was a child, there was a boy in the community who committed suicide and the elders called on his family to bring items for sacrifices before he could be buried and the family couldn't afford those items and the body was taken to forest where he was buried.

Ahhh you this people no no meme
We come this life to do what exactly?
Gbogbo awon iwa pipani didaniloro ati be be lo gbogbo iwonyi ni won o bi wa lere

Enikeni ti o ba wa ri ti won yege ninu awon ibere wonyi ni ina Allahu di Eewo fun

O wa ni ri enikan ki o wo Inu ina ayafi awon ti ibinu Allahu tikole lori
Won koda Ina jannamo, jehim ati awon ina yio ku lasan bikose fun awon Alaigbagbo

DiarisGodoo:
Have you tried Google? How about those cremated. Don't be arguing nonsense, instead argue that it is not physical - that will make more sense.

Are you trying to argue with Jesus or you just don't want me to talk?
Because i'm not telling you what is out of the Bible so do you believe Jesus or not?

MaxInDHouse:
Oh if that is what you mean it's correct because they will never ever come back as humans again.

Oooh, forever doesn't mean forever at all. Wait a minute, so why does it say forever? Why not "till they come back to earth as non-humans?"

MaxInDHouse:
Are you trying to argue with Jesus or you just don't want me to talk?
Because i'm not telling you what is out of the Bible so do you believe Jesus or not?

I'm not arguing at all. I'm only giving you scientific facts. If you bury soneone in Nigeria it won't take up to 30 years for them to disappear completely, bones, hair, and everything

DiarisGodoo:
Oooh, forever doesn't mean forever at all. Wait a minute, so why does it say forever? Why not "till they come back to earth as non-humans?"

Jesus said those going to heaven will become like angels {Luke 20:34+36} what exactly are you arguing about?🙂

DiarisGodoo:
I'm not arguing at all. I'm only giving you scientific facts. If you bury soneone in Nigeria it won't take up to 30 years for them to disappear completely, bones, hair, and everything

So you mean Nigerian soil differ from all other soil on planet earth?😂

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said those going to heaven will become like angels {Luke 20:34+36} what exactly are you arguing about?🙂

And be there with him FOREVER. Did you read that part?

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MaxInDHouse:
So you mean Nigerian soil differ from all other soil on planet earth?😂

Rate of total disappearance of a buried body depends on the area. I used Nigeria as reference.
You were also asked of those cremated or incinerated in some accident. No response

DiarisGodoo:
And be there with him FOREVER. Did you read that part?

And so?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
And so?🙂

And so u were asked ab initio at what point they'd leave "forever" and return to earth

DiarisGodoo:
Rate of total disappearance of a buried body depends on the area. I used Nigeria as reference.
You were also asked of those cremated or incinerated in some accident. No response

Jesus was addressing Jews who used to preserve the bodies of their loved ones in the grave so no matter the condition of the person's body at death God has the power and willing to bring them back to life that's why Revelations 20:13

Said:

"And the sea gave up the dead in it, and death and the Grave gave up the dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds"

So whether their bodies were swallowed and digested in the belly of fish or burnt to arches my God has the power to assemble their bodies because He made man from dust talkless those He will love to see again!

DiarisGodoo:
And so u were asked ab initio at what point they'd leave "forever" and return to earth

Those going to heaven have no business with earth again those who will live on earth are another set of people! John 10:16

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was addressing Jews who used to preserve the bodies of their loved ones in the grave so no matter the condition of the person's body at death God has the power and willing to bring them back to life that's why Revelations 20:13

Said:

"And the sea gave up the dead in it, and death and the Grave gave up the dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds"

So whether their bodies were swallowed and digested in the belly of fish or burnt to arches my God has the power to assemble their bodies because He made man from dust talkless those He will love to see again!

But this is what I told you to argue from the beginning, that the resurrection was spiritual not physical. But you kept harping on bones and hair. So you now acknowledge that your bones and hair argument was nonsense

MaxInDHouse:
Those going to heaven have no business with earth again those who will live on earth are another set of people! John 10:16

I don't think you read vs 17 very well. Read it again.

jesusjnr2020:
Proof Hell Fire Wasn't Made For Humans

Some often ask why would a loving God prepare or make a place of torment called hell fire to burn the same humans He claims to love for all eternity?

The truth is that God never made hell fire to punish humans eternally for their sins, and this can be proven by the particular saying of Jesus:

Matthew 25:41 (KJV)

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Therefore the question itself is not only based on a false premise but also illinformed, as hell fire was never made for humans in the first place, but a place prepared for the devil and his angels who were cast out of heaven.

God bless.

See you... So who are those on the left that he will say to them Depart to the fires,,,
Lemme not hear people like most Nigerians

DiarisGodoo:
But this is what I told you to argue from the beginning, that the resurrection was spiritual not physical. But you kept harping on bones and hair. So you now acknowledge that your bones and hair argument was nonsense

Raising the dead back to life was done by Jesus several times they came back to life physically not spiritual!🙂

DiarisGodoo:
I don't think you read vs 17 very well. Read it again.

BORN AGAIN Christians will never come back to live as humans again on planet earth so forever they will be with Jesus in heaven as his corulers.
There are two sets of people who will live forever those going to heaven with Jesus {Matthew 5:3; John 14:1-3} and those who will inherit Paradise on earth! Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:29

MaxInDHouse:
BORN AGAIN Christians will never come back to live as humans again on planet earth so forever they will be with Jesus in heaven as his corulers.
There are two sets of people who will live forever those going to heaven with Jesus {Matthew 5:3; John 14:1-3} and those who will inherit Paradise on earth! Matthew 5:5; Psalms 37:29

So, bottom line, the Bible lied?

ufotunang:
..that is why they must believe in Jesus Christ to make heaven .. simple

If the Jews in the bible didn't believe in Jesus Christ, na me wey dey Nigeria go come believe am abi?


Dey play you hear

MaxInDHouse:
Raising the dead back to life was done by Jesus several times they came back to life physically not spiritual!🙂

Yes, but they were not incinerated in an inferno. Their bodies were intact and they continued using them. To raise someone eaten and digested by a shark is different from that, wouldn't u say?

DiarisGodoo:
So, bottom line, the Bible lied?

Funny Churchian!
How does this translate to Bible lying?