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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:23pm On Oct 20, 2025
IjeBos:
So you believing Trump is killing just drug dealers (though still illegal and immoral) is limited to the last strike?
Your ability to rationalize things for Trump goes to no extend.

I think we can see clearly why Nigeria is where it is.
Too many people who think like you easy rationalizing things they know is wrong because their side does it.
Do you believe Obama JUST killed terrorists ?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:53pm On Oct 20, 2025
raumdeuter:
Do you believe Obama JUST killed terrorists ?
You seem to think in soundbites and deflections as well.

Explain to me first why that is analogous to this case in any way.
You think by calling someone a terrorist makes them eligible for death, truth or evidence be dammed?

Your callousness at killing people, defending illegality with respect to killing people and defending atrocities seems to be unmatched outside of Ibime.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:03pm On Oct 20, 2025
IjeBos:
You seem to think in soundbites and deflections as well.

Explain to me first why that is analogous to this case in any way.
You think by calling someone a terrorist makes them eligible for death, truth or evidence be dammed?

Your callousness at killing people, defending illegality with respect to killing people and defending atrocities seems to be unmatched outside of Ibime.
What was the difference in how Obama handled his treatment of terrorists?
I care about American lives, you care more about terrorists and narcos lives
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:32pm On Oct 20, 2025
raumdeuter:
What was the difference in how Obama handled his treatment of terrorists?
I care about American lives, you care more about terrorists and narcos lives
Right, so your brain does work on gaslighting and slogans.
You might want to take a law class, maybe at Harvard Extension school, might help with your logic and perpetual usage of the word "terrorist".
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:33pm On Oct 20, 2025
IjeBos:
Right, so your brain does work on gaslighting and slogans.
You might want to take a law class, maybe at Harvard Extension school, might help with your logic and perpetual usage of the word "terrorist".
You need just a basic education in logic, you dont know anything, you refuse to learn, yet display your ignorance everywhere
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:38pm On Oct 20, 2025
shocked shocked
Rubio sent MS-13 informants back to El Salvador as part of an agreement to use the El Salvadorian jail.
The informants were going to implicate El Salvador's president and the agreements he made with MS-13.

So, Trump says he wants to stop MS-13 while cozying up to a president who is secretly helping MS-13.
Everything in this administration seems to be smoke and mirrors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/ar-AA1OKSxd#comments

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 3:41pm On Oct 20, 2025
IjeBos:
shocked shocked
Rubio sent MS-13 informants back to El Salvador as part of an agreement to use the El Salvadorian jail.
The informants were going to implicate El Salvador's president and the agreements he made with MS-13.

So, Trump says he wants to stop MS-13 while cozying up to a president who is secretly helping MS-13.
Everything in this administration seems to be smoke and mirrors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/ar-AA1OKSxd#comments
Very very shameful and disgraceful
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 3:50pm On Oct 20, 2025
BREAKING: Supreme Court agrees to review a federal law to determine whether the government may bar certain drug users from owning guns:"

Should Drug users, Mad People and all types of people even have any access to guns in the first place? It should not even be up for discussion at all. Something is absolutey wrong with the US in term of this

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:50pm On Oct 20, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Very very shameful and disgraceful
Everyday something is revealed that's worse than what you thought was the bottom the previous day.
And we are only in year 1.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:55pm On Oct 20, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
Even a blind man knew the ceasefire wasn't going to last.

Mtchew.
That's why I never even bothered celebrating it. Uncle Joe had a ceasefire before leaving office yet it went to the dogs.
Uncle Dayo said we were sad for days. He kept coming back and coming back to it, when we know Israel's MO.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:03pm On Oct 20, 2025
I don't know why these YouTubers keep inventing lies!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2NQvuhtXLE?si=APQ3crohVv9opiHM

Vote dump!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:10pm On Oct 20, 2025
bemeruca:
Cease fire collapsed in Gaza. Hopefully they show restraint, both sides
What!? The biggest most beautiful maga dump Israel Hamas ceasefire deal like no one has ever seen before has collapsed already?

Now, who would have thought a deal cooked up by dump and one side with a literal gun threat to the other side would collapse like that?

Do you think collapse will happen to the Russia-Ukraine deal dump tabled if Ukraine agreed to it?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:16pm On Oct 20, 2025
basilico:
Mamdani meets with Siraj Wahajj. More about Siraj Wahajj.

Siraj Wahhaj (the elder, imam):Named an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing due to associations with figures like Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, raising suspicions of ties to extremist networks. However, he was never charged, and there’s no evidence linking him to terrorism support or his son’s 2018 activities.
And so what, exactly? I don't get your point.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:38pm On Oct 20, 2025
bemeruca:
Protests in Russia are popping up, fuel scarcity and their economy is nose diving. He is losing thousands of men per month. It's a critical situation for Putin which is why he wants to talk and Trump should not be lowballing Ukraine. It's a stupid thing to do. This is not how he should seek peace. He should be asking Russia to leave Ukraine. At the rate they are losing refineries, its just a matter of time before they beg for mercy.
I'm so glad Ukraine has fought back till Russia has now become weak.

I can just about attempt to imagine the world I'd be living in if Ukraine had surrendered when Russia seemed strong. Thankfully, I quickly fail.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:59pm On Oct 20, 2025
budaatum:
And so what, exactly? I don't get your point.
It means they couldn't find evidence linking him to Egyptian cleric Abdel-Rahman plot to bomb the WTC,
He hosted Abdel-Rahman at His Mosque: In 1991, Wahhaj invited the Blind Sheikh to speak at Masjid At-Taqwa in Brooklyn, where Wahhaj was (and still is) the imam. Abdel-Rahman preached there multiple times.
Fundraising and Support: Wahhaj helped organize and promote speaking tours for Abdel-Rahman in the U.S., including events in New York, New Jersey, and elsewhere. These tours raised funds and built support for Abdel-Rahman’s cause—overthrowing the Egyptian government and establishing an Islamic state.
Personal Relationship: Wahhaj considered Abdel-Rahman a spiritual mentor and defended him publicly, even after his 1993 arrest

If it looks like a duck,walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ghostagain: 5:15pm On Oct 20, 2025
You're just as delusional as the guy in the video below 👇🏿

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E20TaZrgIaM?si=3DZh2goZBck9Ap-t
bemeruca:
They don't have to join Ukraine. Ukraine just need support. The US is providing intelligence for Ukraine to strike Russia's energy sector which is why Putin is calling for another talk.

At this stage they should be talking total pullout. Trump is a soccer for peace and he is lowballing Ukraine as a result.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:18pm On Oct 20, 2025
This is the what the President of the US posted.
How far we have fallen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWHDKDwnJZs&list=RDNSnWHDKDwnJZs&start_radio=1
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nastymods: 5:27pm On Oct 20, 2025
IjeBos:
This is the what the President of the US posted.
How far we have fallen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWHDKDwnJZs&list=RDNSnWHDKDwnJZs&start_radio=1
Tha president isa cools
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ghostagain: 5:28pm On Oct 20, 2025
The USA has let racism destroy it. How someone like trump managed to be president is beyond my comprehension. How he manages to remain president even though his stupidity is the greatest threat to the USA's security is also beyond me.
IjeBos:
This is the what the President of the US posted.
How far we have fallen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWHDKDwnJZs&list=RDNSnWHDKDwnJZs&start_radio=1
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 5:49pm On Oct 20, 2025
Happy birthday Madam Vice President.

kiss

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ghostagain: 5:49pm On Oct 20, 2025
Pokrovsk has surrendered 😂
@bemeruca
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 5:52pm On Oct 20, 2025
Ghostagain:
The USA has let racism destroy it. How someone like trump managed to be president is beyond my comprehension. How he manages to remain president even though his stupidity is the greatest threat to the USA's security is also beyond me.
Not just racism but sexism. Two well qualified women lost to a maniac who is so dumb. Humans cannot be the smartest creation of God because how can I explain it? How did such a clown become President twice? Is Bigotry that important that it makes people lose their brains and throw away rationality? This could have been avoided.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ghostagain: 5:59pm On Oct 20, 2025
It's not about Kamala or Hillary.
The fact is that a lot of the electorate was fanatically supporting trump to the point they started calling him "king" as soon as they won the election.

People were supporting trump whose only promise was to "make america White again".
Hate has returned to the west like it did in ww2. These guys have a need to hate and persecute fellow humans, it was the Jews in the 1930's, today's it's every non white or non Christian person.

AmazonTopaz:
Not just racism but sexism. Two well qualified women lost to a maniac who is so dumb. Humans cannot be the smartest creation of God because how can I explain it? How did such a clown become President twice? Is Bigotry that important that it makes people lose their brains and throw away rationality? This could have been avoided.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:29pm On Oct 20, 2025
Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner were the lead negotiators in the Hamas Israel peace deal. They acted outside the state department using their own contacts to initiate. Their 60 minutes interview on CBS.
Reveals CIA fed them lies about Hamas , likely to sabotage the peace talks.
We were fed intel that Hamas was dug in, no flexibility... Turns out, they were more ready to deal than we thought. The Agency got it wrong—badly."

Full interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNa6PcU1Ke0
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie:
budaatum:
True, "A majority of USA voters chose him", can't argue.

A majority of Nigerian voters chose Tinubu too, I daresay.

Thankfully, we get another go every 4 years.

Vote dump!
The people of the USA...the people who built and organized the nation called the USA...are a wise people.


IbeOkehie:
What is funny? People all over the world make mistakes.

One of the least noted aspects of USA history is that it started out as a socialist system.

Here's a little bit -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dAmroKyzGY

Learning from history and errors is a sign of high intellect. Implementing solutions without being forced or prompted shows diligence. Even China that was once an absolute Communist dictatorship adopted some limited capitalist free market reforms. For whatever reasons, Black Africans can't implement extensive and credible free markets on their own volition. And that's a pity.
The major trouble they have now is they've been infiltrated by uncivilized hordes who don't understand the concept of LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Slavery was a terrible error, it opened the door to all these claims of victimization, even from the Black Africans who SOLD the slaves. shocked And without it I likely wouldn't be a blessed 4th Class citizen of the Greatest Nation in History. And that is life.

God Bless the USA, God Save the King....and

Good Luck to Nigeria.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
No Kings protest

these protests are not just political statements. They are well-financed, orchestrated performances—designed to generate viral imagery, manipulate public perception and blur the line between civic engagement and ideological agitation.
**
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/asra-nomani-2-1-billion-machine-behind-spontaneous-anti-trump-protests

198 non profits and groups raking in $2.1 B annually behind the Saturday protests There were lots of paid protesters, sone protests eg New York ended 1 pm . Protesters could not answer ssxtobtgecreason for protests. There were craigslist ads for protesters for hire

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:38pm On Oct 20, 2025
IbeOkehie:
The people of the USA...the people who built and organized the nation called the USA...are a wise people.

The major trouble they have now is they've been infiltrated by uncivilized hordes who don't understand the concept of LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Slavery was a terrible error, it opened the door to all these claims of victimization, even from people who SOLD the slaves. And without it I likely wouldn't be a blessed citizen of the USA. And that is life.

Good Luck to Nigeria.
I think you've admitted here that slaves did not have the socialism you claim USA had, but I'm amused you don't seem to include them amongst "people who built and organized the nation called the USA". It's like you saying cotton picking don't count.

But piqued am I by your, "without it I likely wouldn't be a blessed citizen of the USA". It makes me want to ask if you are a descendant, for it might make a particular sense than if coming from a Nigerian in America.

On consideration and testing, I can't but not note the absurdity of saying, 'slavery likely blessed me to be a citizen of my blessed country', like I couldn't have gotten on a plane and come here if some Africans hadn't been enslaved.

Or is it perhaps it's that they wouldn't have let me in if not for? I wonder.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:47pm On Oct 20, 2025
basilico:
It means they couldn't find evidence .....
Does that not mean, there is no evidence linking linking him to?

basilico:
If it looks like a duck,walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
I most wholly agree. If he looks like dump and walks like dump and quacks like dump, he's dump.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:33pm On Oct 20, 2025
budaatum:
Does that not mean, there is no evidence linking linking him to?



I most wholly agree. If he looks like dump and walks like dump and quacks like dump, he's dump.
no be this same person wey wan kill Biden for strategically grand standing against Putin via Ukraine?

It is now he his realizing it..

grin grin..

Wahala.. grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:07pm On Oct 20, 2025
bayelsaowei:
no be this same person wey wan kill Biden for strategically grand standing against Putin via Ukraine?

It is now he his realizing it..

grin grin..

Wahala.. grin grin
Because he’s a xtupeed person who acts first and thinks later. That’s the same characteristic his followers have. They rush to support his nonsense because it’s a game to them. Then when he rubs egg on their face, they start walking back what they said earlier with outright denial of cunning misspeak.

What kind of person except an ediott would believe a war of that magnitude can be stopped on day one like he promised? Or that he will fix the economy on day. Mind you we had an economy that’s was slowly but surely recovering from his first disastrous term.
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