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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie:
budaatum:
I think you've admitted here that slaves did not have the socialism you claim USA had, but I'm amused you don't seem to include them amongst "people who built and organized the nation called the USA". It's like you saying cotton picking don't count.

But piqued am I by your, "without it I likely wouldn't be a blessed citizen of the USA". It makes me want to ask if you are a descendant, for it might make a particular sense than if coming from a Nigerian in America.

On consideration and testing, I can't but not note the absurdity of saying, 'slavery likely blessed me to be a citizen of my blessed country', like I couldn't have gotten on a plane and come here if some Africans hadn't been enslaved.

Or is it perhaps it's that they wouldn't have let me in if not for? I wonder.
1) There's no CLAIM the USA had socialism. The history related in the video is 100% accurate. The Colonial Settlers of the USA organized their new home as a SOCIALIST COMMUNE along the theme of from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Like ALL socialist and communist collectives, it failed miserably.

2) [/b]It's quite likely the USA would have had a BAN on Negroes if Slavery hadn't occurred.

Evidence - look up the (1) Chinese Exclusion Act and (2) The 1964 Immigration & Nationality Act (note the year) and also think about why things the Diversity Lottery were set up in this country.

[b]3)
I also wrote that SLAVERY WAS A GREAT ERROR, didn't I? Again, the USA learned that it made a mistake and adjusted. Look, I've given deep consideration of my status as a citizen of Nigeria and the USA. I can proudly say I've thought through just about everything and I rarely state anything except a carefully considered opinion.....most of the time.

About Slave Labour in the USA, to repeat, participation in Slavery was a Great Error for the USA. This country KILLED 600,000 mostly White Americans to ensure freedom for the Slaves. Nobody on this thread can name ANY OTHER COUNTRY that has done anything similar. It's the ZENITH of national morality. What did our Black African ancestors do on their part as restitution for Slavery?

What has ANY Black African done for Black Americans? NOTHING, nada, complete ZERO. Every time a Black African makes noise about SYSTEMIC RACISM in the USA, a fallen Civil War soldier get his angel wings. Just recently a Black African City Councillor in Boston who rode into office on the back of RAGE AGAINST SYSTEMIC RACISM was convicted of the lowest most egregious CORRUPTION. Another Yoruba Mayor somewhere out West was caught red handed rigging the vote with contrived RACIST outrage. These are the people who SOLD Black Americans into Slavery and they're here grifting them. Una well done!!!!

Yes about that Slave Labour that built the USA. The same Slaves were freed and settled in Liberia & Sierra Leone. How come their labour couldn't work the same magic of building an equivalent United States of Africa?

What about the Slaves of Haiti? Anyone who truly cares about this should examine the history of Haiti vis a vis Dominican Republic. Haiti once conquered and colonized the DR. Today the Dominican Republic EXPELS illegal Haitian immigrants on a regular schedule. Why is this less of an issue for CRUSADERS AGAINST RACISM?

Facts not Feelings !!!!

Good Luck to Nigerians!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 9:26pm On Oct 20, 2025
basilico:
Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner were the lead negotiators in the Hamas Israel peace deal. They acted outside the state department using their own contacts to initiate. Their 60 minutes interview on CBS.
Reveals CIA fed them lies about Hamas , likely to sabotage the peace talks.
We were fed intel that Hamas was dug in, no flexibility... Turns out, they were more ready to deal than we thought. The Agency got it wrong—badly."

Full interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNa6PcU1Ke0
---Two businessmen parading as lead negotiators---knowing fully well---how much funds will flow as contracts from the Middle East---in the last seven days both sides (Israel & Hamas) have dropped the ball on the peace deal---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 10:30pm On Oct 20, 2025
Demolition crews have begun tearing down part of the White House to build President Trump’s long-desired ballroom — despite his pledge that construction of the $250 million addition wouldn’t “interfere” with the existing building. https://wapo.st/3KXIBs1

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 12:51am On Oct 21, 2025
cococandy:
Because he’s a xtupeed person who acts first and thinks later. That’s the same characteristic his followers have. They rush to support his nonsense because it’s a game to them. Then when he rubs egg on their face, they start walking back what they said earlier with outright denial of cunning misspeak.

What kind of person except an ediott would believe a war of that magnitude can be stopped on day one like he promised? Or that he will fix the economy on day. Mind you we had an economy that’s was slowly but surely recovering from his first disastrous term.
Watch them slowly come from the shadows, and line up behind him yet again. They have no principles.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 1:41am On Oct 21, 2025
nateevs:
Your problem is your misunderstanding of the underlying principle behind the abolition of Slavery. The war was emblematic of the freedom of humanity not just for the neegro.

You have a chronic disease of looking at problems and solutions from the prism of race only. It is the only reason you can come to the conclusion that the US killed 600k white people to save Black people.

It is interesting to note that only Robert E Lee could have come up with that sort of narrative. Abraham Licoln would have said they were fighting on the side of humanity - freedom for one, freedom for all.

But when you suffer from a crisis of identity, you often take the side of the rascist - confident not in the colour of your skin, but by what the racist concludes of you and your ilk. You are a shame.

You evidently never heard of the Militia Act of 1862, where after, 180,000 black men enlisted to join the Union's efforts of the Civil war. A a further 15k joining the US Navy in sand effort.

You obviously never heard of the millions of black people that gave their lives in defiance of Slavery.

You never heard of the name Nelson Mandela. It is the only reason you ask what the black man did in the abolition of Slavery.

You despise your own skin, question the intelligence and purpose of your ilk and walk over the resolve of your kind to find their own path (however small), in a world dominated for centuries by the white man.

You are suffering from a severe case of identity crisis. Go and bleach your melanin. You don't deserve to be black.

Facts, not Feelings.
Of course Black American soldiers died for freedom in the Civil War...that's common sense. It goes without saying. My exact words were -

"This country KILLED 600,000 mostly White Americans to ensure freedom for the Slaves."

It's the liberals...most shamefully educated Black African immigrant liberals....who cast everything in terms of race. The EVIDENCE is that Black Africans bear the MOST responsibility for the enslavement of Black Americans - people have simply preferred to let that moral lacuna fester in plain sight while castigating White Americans for racism. The moral blackmail is beneath contempt and it needs to end.

Nonsense and ingredients.

Case closed.

Good Luck to Nigerians.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:48am On Oct 21, 2025
cococandy:
Because he’s a xtupeed person who acts first and thinks later. That’s the same characteristic his followers have. They rush to support his nonsense because it’s a game to them. Then when he rubs egg on their face, they start walking back what they said earlier with outright denial of cunning misspeak.

What kind of person except an ediott would believe a war of that magnitude can be stopped on day one like he promised? Or that he will fix the economy on day. Mind you we had an economy that’s was slowly but surely recovering from his first disastrous term.
Now economy is getting nuked, with Americans having to deal with both micro and macro economic issues.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 3:51am On Oct 21, 2025
happney65:
Demolition crews have begun tearing down part of the White House to build President Trump’s long-desired ballroom — despite his pledge that construction of the $250 million addition wouldn’t “interfere” with the existing building. https://wapo.st/3KXIBs1
Its destruction time.. what an American Wike.. grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:07am On Oct 21, 2025
DJT..lets go..you can do it..

cheesy cheesy

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:07am On Oct 21, 2025
What is this?

Somebody vacillating ?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:38am On Oct 21, 2025
feedthenation:
---Two businessmen parading as lead negotiators---knowing fully well---how much funds will flow as contracts from the Middle East---in the last seven days both sides (Israel & Hamas) have dropped the ball on the peace deal---
It doesn't matter, by using trusted advisors , 20 living hostages were freed .
Why didn't Obama offer to negotiate like Kissinger used to?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:22am On Oct 21, 2025
There you have it my people..

I know some sincere Americans would have to start speaking up a d defying the lord and god of some of our nigerian republicans. I hope many of our nigerian brothers know that God in the heavens would mete out same judgement he has reserved for Donald Trump on all those who have knowingly and arrogantly supported Trumps brazing immorality as regards the Epstein case.

Trump is calling for the removal of his own fellow republican over criticism of the DOJs release of heavily redacted files and information..over the redaction of too many information, that ofcourse would really expose the vile human being many of my black brothers adore and worship (even more than their parents). With either himself right in it or his business donors.

Reminds me of how many sycophants in nigeria defended Tinubus drug forfeiture case with their lives prior to the last elections.

For all those actively supporting what's going on, posterity awaits each and everyone of you.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 6:51am On Oct 21, 2025
That’s not the action of an innocent person.
bayelsaowei:
There you have it my people..

I know some sincere Americans would have to start speaking up a d defying the lord and god of some of our nigerian republicans. I hope many of our nigerian brothers know that God in the heavens would mete out same judgement he has reserved for Donald Trump on all those who have knowingly and arrogantly supported Trumps brazing immorality as regards the Epstein case.

Trump is calling for the removal of his own fellow republican over criticism of the DOJs release of heavily redacted files and information..over the redaction of too many information, that ofcourse would really expose the vile human being many of my black brothers adore and worship (even more than their parents). With either himself right in it or his business donors.

Reminds me of how many sycophants in nigeria defended Tinubus drug forfeiture case with their lives prior to the last elections.

For all those actively supporting what's going on, posterity awaits each and everyone of you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 6:56am On Oct 21, 2025
bayelsaowei:
What is this?

Somebody vacillating ?
Desperate attempt at distraction

Just like their yeye $5,000 DOGE checks. Or was it $8,000? Too much nonsense happening in between we don’t even remember.

But without fail, whenever they get even more unpopular than they already are, they start dangling carrots to the masses in the hope of distracting them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 8:15am On Oct 21, 2025
budaatum:
I think you've admitted here that slaves did not have the socialism you claim USA had, but I'm amused you don't seem to include them amongst "people who built and organized the nation called the USA". It's like you saying cotton picking don't count.

But piqued am I by your, "without it I likely wouldn't be a blessed citizen of the USA". It makes me want to ask if you are a descendant, for it might make a particular sense than if coming from a Nigerian in America.

On consideration and testing, I can't but not note the absurdity of saying, 'slavery likely blessed me to be a citizen of my blessed country', like I couldn't have gotten on a plane and come here if some Africans hadn't been enslaved.

Or is it perhaps it's that they wouldn't have let me in if not for? I wonder.
The guy is an irredeemable coon
"White people built America"

Not the slaves who broke their backs for the country
Or the Chinese Americans who built the railroads and died in high numbers across the American west

Not the Irish and Polish that were indentured servants and all (these guys were not considered "white" so them follow for being the n word)

White worship and its very unfortunate
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:35am On Oct 21, 2025
That’s what’s embarrassing too. At their big ages they have this subservient mentality to white people. And it has nothing to do with being an immigrant. Because white people from poorer white countries who come to America for better lives do not put American white people on a pedestal. They just simply recognize their own inherent value as humans and act accordingly.

Trump’s dad is an immigrant. You’d have never caught him acting like he’s a low class human who deserves less because he immigrated to another country. He felt he was worthy of every respect other Americans got and he acted accordingly. To the point that he instilled in his son the entitlement that he deserves whatever he wants even if he’s unqualified for it. A draft dodging immigrant African would’ve never been allowed to rise to Mr Drumpf’s status let alone his son becoming president.

Do these co ons on this thread strike you as people who’d tell their American-born kids that they have the same value as their white class mates? All our kids are legally qualified to be president of America one day if they so choose. Same as any other American born person. That’s the beauty of America. And that’s what made it a special country.

But that’s also the part that riles up bitterness in the hearts of conservatives. That’s why Obama was the breaking point for them. Since then, they’ve been doing everything they can to try to change that part of the constitution. And these co ons are matching solidly behind them in support of the oppression of their own descendants. I will never understand it..

RodgersAkpafu:
The guy is an irredeemable co on
"White people built America"

Not the slaves who broke their backs for the country
Or the Chinese Americans who built the railroads and died in high numbers across the American west

Not the Irish and Polish that were indentured servants and all (these guys were not considered "white" so them follow for being the n word)

White worship and its very unfortunate
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kentebemoney: 10:09am On Oct 21, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
Not just racism but sexism. Two well qualified women lost to a maniac who is so dumb. Humans cannot be the smartest creation of God because how can I explain it? How did such a clown become President twice? Is Bigotry that important that it makes people lose their brains and throw away rationality? This could have been avoided.
Very Emotional grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ghostagain: 10:17am On Oct 21, 2025
I think you're a little teenager.
This is a discussion for adults.
So go and do your teenaged trolling else where please.

kentebemoney:
Very Emotional grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ghostagain: 10:56am On Oct 21, 2025
Very few African states were involved in selling slaves. All western European countries were involved in buying, capturing and enslaving people.

So how does that translate to Africans being more involved ?

The slaves who were being sold were war prisoners, not even local enslaved people (who had access to opportunities to become free men).
Rather prisoners of war who were likely to be executed were sold off as a way to exile them from the land.

The victors who were selling these war prisoners has no idea about the inhuman treatment the buyers reserved for them. If anything, it was assumed those guys would be citizens of white countries and never come back.

IbeOkehie:
grin grin grin

Black Africans collectively were the major enablers of the Slave Trade. No amount of rationalization can erase that.

Yes, Haiti is the next Singapore and Liberia will soon match South Korean prosperity. And of course Nigeria is already the Giant of Africa except for that other place at the bottom of the African map, what's that place again? grin

Sorry for the reminder. lipsrsealed

Good Luck to Nigerians!!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 11:11am On Oct 21, 2025
Ghostagain:
Very few African states were involved in selling slaves. All western European countries were involved in buying, capturing and enslaving people.

So how does that translate to Africans being more involved ?

The slaves who were being sold were war prisoners, not even local enslaved people (who had access to opportunities to become free men).
Rather prisoners of war who were likely to be executed were sold off as a way to exile them from the land.

The victors who were selling these war prisoners has no idea about the inhuman treatment the buyers reserved for them. If anything, it was assumed those guys would be citizens of white countries and never come back.
You do know I'm Nigerian, right? An Igbo man? As in I can tell some of the history of slavery even in my hometown and other Igbo towns and villages? Helllooooooohuh Wetin be all this?

Na wa o. But is war a good excuse to sell a fellow Black African to strange White People from across the seas?

So if alien beings appear from outer space today, it's OK for countries at war to sell their enemies to those beings? Take it easy abeg.

Good Luck to Nigerians!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kentebemoney: 11:13am On Oct 21, 2025
Ghostagain:
I think you're a little teenager.
This is a discussion for adults.
So go and do your teenaged trolling else where please.
Dey play!!!
I dey gidigba
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:16am On Oct 21, 2025
cococandy:
Desperate attempt at distraction

Just like their yeye $5,000 DOGE checks. Or was it $8,000? Too much nonsense happening in between we don’t even remember.

But without fail, whenever they get even more unpopular than they already are, they start dangling carrots to the masses in the hope of distracting them.
Same MO of our nigerian politicians. cheesy

I feel Trumps strategy is to weaponize poverty soon.. grin cheesy

But wait o..e be like Trump wants to slowly become a socialist.. grin grin grin

Baba is now confused.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 11:27am On Oct 21, 2025
nateevs:
Guy, you are talking nonsense. The White Man did not need any black people's permission to take slaves. They came to take slaves anyway.

This is not a carefully-deduced opinion from historical events. It is nothing more than a xtoopid point of view - one that makes it look like the absence of complicity of a few African Chiefs would have stopped slave trade in its tracks altogether. Would it really?

Again, you area parroting the talking points of racists with absolute zero awareness. Openly being subservient to the white man, with no shame.

Bleach your black skin ninja. You don't deserve to be Black.

Facts, not Feelings.
You are wasting your time Prof
I tried last year, was an absolute waste of time

To be a self hating coon is allowed
let em 👏
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ghostagain: 12:05pm On Oct 21, 2025
Unless your DNA or geographical location allows you to do time travel, I don't see why you think those are relevant informations.

I research what I say throughout eyewitness written documents, that is how I get the knowledge, not through my DNA or stories being told 300 years after an event.

Also you don't seem to be able to put yourself in perspective. The way those war prisoners were seen in those days is not the way we see things today. In those days, there was no "white or black", we had African countries fighting each other, prisoners of war faced execution or were sold for gun powder or other stuff.


IbeOkehie:
You do know I'm Nigerian, right? An Igbo man? As in I can tell some of the history of slavery even in my hometown and other Igbo towns and villages? Helllooooooohuh Wetin be all this?

Na wa o. But is war a good excuse to sell a fellow Black African to strange White People from across the seas?

So if alien beings appear from outer space today, it's OK for countries at war to sell their enemies to those beings? Take it easy abeg.

Good Luck to Nigerians!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by emmaodet: 12:13pm On Oct 21, 2025
IbeOkehie:
You do know I'm Nigerian, right? An Igbo man? As in I can tell some of the history of slavery even in my hometown and other Igbo towns and villages? Helllooooooohuh Wetin be all this?

Na wa o. But is war a good excuse to sell a fellow Black African to strange White People from across the seas?

So if alien beings appear from outer space today, it's OK for countries at war to sell their enemies to those beings? Take it easy abeg.

Good Luck to Nigerians!
grin cheesy

Bro, it is an old culture as old as humanity.
The Europeans sold captured enemies as slaves also - Romans, Spartans etc.
Arabs were very notorious in selling captured and defeated villages.
The movie Spartacus is a pointer.
Captured enemies were graded - strong ones to tend to citizens farms, some sold as slaves to tend to others farms elsewhere, the women are shared as spoilt of war, the ugly ones are turned to maids, the weak men are killed while the average guys are thrown into the rings to fight each other to death.
Life was/has never been easy. It is a continuous unending battle
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IbeOkehie: 1:15pm On Oct 21, 2025
emmaodet:
grin cheesy

Bro, it is an old culture as old as humanity.
The Europeans sold captured enemies as slaves also - Romans, Spartans etc.
Arabs were very notorious in selling captured and defeated villages.
The movie Spartacus is a pointer.
Captured enemies were graded - strong ones to tend to citizens farms, some sold as slaves to tend to others farms elsewhere, the women are shared as spoilt of war, the ugly ones are turned to maids, the weak men are killed while the average guys are thrown into the rings to fight each other to death.
Life was/has never been easy. It is a continuous unending battle
Tell all this to the Afro-Supremacists who use SLAVERY as a cudgel to intimidate White people and grab their wealth.

Good Luck to Nigerians
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:33pm On Oct 21, 2025
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