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Seun, I see you're here. I have ave lost the ability to deactivate my account. I call on you to help me deactivate it.

Seun want Japa come America but we don't want him here.....

Ghostagain:
Very few African states were involved in selling slaves. All western European countries were involved in buying, capturing and enslaving people.

So how does that translate to Africans being more involved ?

The slaves who were being sold were war prisoners, not even local enslaved people (who had access to opportunities to become free men).
Rather prisoners of war who were likely to be executed were sold off as a way to exile them from the land.

The victors who were selling these war prisoners has no idea about the inhuman treatment the buyers reserved for them. If anything, it was assumed those guys would be citizens of white countries and never come back.

How were the slaves captured and used locally treated by their captors. I mean the slaves who were not shipped abroad. How did they get treated by Africans in Africa

Ghostagain:
Dude, you have mental problems.
What is it with you and your "I must defend white people" energy ?
And " I'm igbo, I can tell you the histories ...".
Just pick an identity and stop trying to claim other identities, right now you're a white supremacist. Stop claiming Igbo identity!

You are bringing american identity problems towards us, even though we are not Americans. Go and discuss with your fellow Americans of African ancestry and hear their grievances instead of coming to us and bringing us your problems which come from your white supremacy.


Also this your attempt to switch guilt of slavery from white slave owners to "all Africans" is dead on arrival.
This old western way of dumping guilt on other people is what we see everyday: Palestinians being punished for the crimes of Germans while Germans are now seen as saints.

Kikikikiki this ah racists ye.

Please help me deactivate my account mr seun.

emmaodet:


Bro, it is an old culture as old as humanity.
The Europeans sold captured enemies as slaves also - Romans, Spartans etc.
Arabs were very notorious in selling captured and defeated villages.
The movie Spartacus is a pointer.
Captured enemies were graded - strong ones to tend to citizens farms, some sold as slaves to tend to others farms elsewhere, the women are shared as spoilt of war, the ugly ones are turned to maids, the weak men are killed while the average guys are thrown into the rings to fight each other to death.
Life was/has never been easy. It is a continuous unending battle

Every culture captured slaves and treated them horribly. Not just white Europeans. Even in some places in Africa and in the Arab states till dates, they still have slaves hw are they treated?

Even in biblical times that was documented, Slaves were spoils of war and mostly treated horribly, See how Israelites were treated in Egypt, Babylonia, Assyria etc

Black slaves in Africa were treated similarly to how white slaves in Europe were treated.

There was of course a path to citizenship, possibilities to shine on the battlefield and earn freedom and fame.

Not all slaves in black Africa were black by the way...

raumdeuter:
How were the slaves captured and used locally treated by their captors. I mean the slaves who were not shipped abroad. How did they get treated by Africans in Africa

Ghostagain:
Black slaves in Africa were treated similarly to how white slaves in Europe were treated.

There was of course a path to citizenship, possibilities to shine on the battlefield and earn freedom and fame.

Not all slaves in black Africa were black by the way...

Just like in the Americas, Some black saves earned their freedom and even became slave owners themselves. Point is slaves everywhere were mostly treated horribly and did not have equal footing with the captors and their families in the society

raumdeuter:
Every culture captured slaves and treated them horribly. Not just white Europeans. Even in some places in Africa and in the Arab states till dates, they still have slaves hw are they treated?

Even in biblical times that was documented, Slaves were spoils of war and mostly treated horribly, See how Israelites were treated in Egypt, Babylonia, Assyria etc

Kikikikikikiki budaatum, IjeBos Kikikikiki

I don't think so.
Don't let movies like Jango fool you.

America was built on slavery alongside Brazil. It's in places like Russia, France and England that you had some people being freed from slavery from time to time and even getting big positions in government: Pushkin's dad or grand dad.

raumdeuter:
Just like in the Americas, Some black saves earned their freedom and even became slave owners themselves. Point is slaves everywhere were mostly treated horribly and did not have equal footing with the captors and their families in the society

Ghostagain:
I don't think so.
Don't let movies like Jango fool you.

America was built on slavery alongside Brazil. It's in places like Russia, France and England that you had some people being freed from slavery from time to time and even getting big positions in government: Pushkin's dad or grand dad.

What point do you disagree with?

- That some black people in Americas earned their freedom and became slave owners?

Or that there was nowhere where Slaves and thir children were on equal social footing with the captors and their family?

What I'm saying is that I don't think many black enslaved people earned their freedoms in 300 years of slavery in the USA. The people who did are a statistical anomaly which every statistician would completely ignore for his analysis.

raumdeuter:
What point do you disagree with?

- That some black people in Americas earned their freedom and became slave owners?

Or that there was nowhere where Slaves and thir children were on equal social footing with the captors and their family?

If you starve one million people and provide bread to 3 of them, don't expect to be acknowledged as a guy who also gave bread to his enemies.

Ghostagain:
What I'm saying is that I don't think many black enslaved people earned their freedoms in 300 years of slavery in the USA.

They were not many just like in other cultures the slaves who earned freedom were not many, Most were killed and died as slaves

There were a few who earned freedom and some of them even became slave owners even in America

Slavery was a thing in all cultures across the globe and the slaves were subjected to horrible things. Slavery still exists in some part of Africa and Asia till date

Ghostagain:
If you starve one million people and provide bread to 3 of them, don't expect to be acknowledged as a guy who also gave bread to his enemies.

A slave gaining freedom anywhere whether Africa Europe or Asia was a statistical anomaly, How many slaves ended like Jaja all over Africa? Many died miserably and horribly from forced labor

Ghostagain:
It's not about Kamala or Hillary.
The fact is that a lot of the electorate was fanatically supporting trump to the point they started calling him "king" as soon as they won the election.

People were supporting trump whose only promise was to "make america White again".
Hate has returned to the west like it did in ww2. These guys have a need to hate and persecute fellow humans, it was the Jews in the 1930's, today's it's every non white or non Christian person.

True. That's why I don't out the blame on them for losing. I blame the electorate.

kentebemoney:

Lwkmd
Ijebos na one of those "get inside!!" Children, him no wise at all.
Him type dey pay me every semester, those days 😂

Is it because I wasn't mentally weak enough to join a cult like you?


I wrestled, played football (TE, DE and 3rd and 4th down noseguard weighing 185) and ran track.
My nickname from my football coach was the equivalent of Mt. Vesuvius (something different) because I would blow up everyone in 1on1s even people with 100 pounds on me.
Went to my highschool reunion and the O and D line guys I would destroy in practice were telling me I had my "man strength" as a kid.

I was the kid with the funny name who came from Africa. You know the African Bushbuggy. I was picked on and jumped as a kid until one day I decided that was enough. They chased us, my older brother left me, ran home and I decided I'd find the biggest kid and trash him mercilessly even though I got hurt. I did and that was the end of them picking on me. Grew up with this absurd notion that you either respected me or I'd make you fear me. So, I became an a-hole who people feared. Grew out of that in my mid 20's.

So, no I would not be paying you. Not in my DNA. In fact I'd trash you so bad you'd be running back to your cult looking for backup.

I laugh at you because I know your type. A weak, insecure, little man, looking for affirmation and who can only run his mouth when he has people to back him up.
Like really, what type of person lets themselves join a cult?
I should fear someone like you and Mr. wannabe thug life rapper Ibime? Lol. I can't.
You're like most of the conservatives in this thread.

RodgersAkpafu:
The guy is an irredeemable coon
"White people built America"

Not the slaves who broke their backs for the country
Or the Chinese Americans who built the railroads and died in high numbers across the American west

Not the Irish and Polish that were indentured servants and all (these guys were not considered "white" so them follow for being the n word)

White worship and its very unfortunate

The "Visioneer", architect, engineer, technicians, labourers.
The Pentagon (the us military hq), which amongst the listed above, would take the biggest credit for the building.
Note: I would never be found among those people who try to downplay the role of labourers.

Ghostagain:
Dude, you have mental problems.
What is it with you and your "I must defend white people" energy ?
And " I'm igbo, I can tell you the histories ...".
Just pick an identity and stop trying to claim other identities, right now you're a white supremacist. Stop claiming Igbo identity!

You are bringing american identity problems towards us, even though we are not Americans. Go and discuss with your fellow Americans of African ancestry and hear their grievances instead of coming to us and bringing us your problems which come from your white supremacy.


Also this your attempt to switch guilt of slavery from white slave owners to "all Africans" is dead on arrival.
This old western way of dumping guilt on other people is what we see everyday: Palestinians being punished for the crimes of Germans while Germans are now seen as saints.

Exactly why I correctly diagnosed his problems as a severe case of identity crisis.

Man who thinks the US killed 600k white people for the sake of the black man.

RodgersAkpafu:
The guy is an irredeemable coon
"White people built America"

Not the slaves who broke their backs for the country
Or the Chinese Americans who built the railroads and died in high numbers across the American west

Not the Irish and Polish that were indentured servants and all (these guys were not considered "white" so them follow for being the n word)

White worship and its very unfortunate

It is very weird seeing so many of their type on this thread.
But maybe they are on this thread for that reason, closeness to what they perceive whiteness (America).
Something broke them.

kentebemoney:
The "Visioneer", architect, engineer, technicians, labourers.
The Pentagon (the us military hq), which amongst the listed above, would take the biggest credit for the building.
Note: I would never be found among those people who try to downplay the role of labourers.

It was not just the availability of labour. It was that it was FREE labour. UNPAID labour.

Anyone can dream and achieve anything on the back of free labour. When there's a financial cost, it becomes a different story.

kentebemoney:
The "Visioneer", architect, engineer, technicians, labourers.
The Pentagon (the us military hq), which amongst the listed above, would take the biggest credit for the building.
Note: I would never be found among those people who try to downplay the role of labourers.

So because the "visioneer" happened to have pale skin, it then means that others are inferior to them ?
Or they are not equal stakeholder in the American project

Even in Britain, south Asians that came here over the last 70 years are claiming and asserting their belonging to this country
While blacks are still wallowing in self pity, self depreciation, and one leg in, one leg out of UK

Asians don dig root here and are even daring the country to try uproot them if them fit lol

nateevs:
It was not just the availability of labour. It was that it was FREE labour. UNPAID labour.

Anyone can dream and achieve anything in the bank of free labour. When there's a financial cost, it becomes a different story.

Exactly the reason for the civil war. Free Labor.
And what's happened to the South since?

Party of Law and Order indeed
Well Done Trump.

I'm curious why the FBi would refer this to state and not handle it themselves since Jeffries is a Federal official.
Wreaks of politics.

A pardoned Capitol rioter was arrested for allegedly threatening House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, vowing to “eliminate” the Democratic leader in a text message obtained by authorities.

Christopher Moynihan, who was pardoned just nine months ago for his participation in the January 6 Capitol riot, threatened to kill Jeffries in a text message sent ahead of the Democratic lawmaker’s Monday speaking engagement at the Economic Club of New York.

“Hakeem Jeffries makes a speech in a few days in NYC I cannot allow this terrorist to live,” the text read, according to court documents obtained by CBS News. “Even if I am hated, he must be eliminated, I will kill him for the future.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/pardoned-capitol-rioter-arrested-for-allegedly-threatening-to-kill-hakeem-jeffries/

IjeBos:
Is it because I wasn't mentally weak enough to join a cult like you?


I wrestled, played football (TE, DE and 3rd and 4th down noseguard weighing 185) and ran track.
My nickname from my football coach was the equivalent of Mt. Vesuvius (something different) because I would blow up everyone in 1on1s even people with 100 pounds on me.
Went to my highschool reunion and the O and D line guys I would destroy in practice were telling me I had my "man strength" as a kid.

I was the kid with the funny name who came from Africa. You know the African Bushbuggy. I was picked on and jumped as a kid until one day I decided that was enough. They chased us, my older brother left me, ran home and I decided I'd find the biggest kid and trash him mercilessly even though I got hurt. I did and that was the end of them picking on me. Grew up with this absurd notion that you either respected me or I'd make you fear me. So, I became an a-hole who people feared. Grew out of that in my mid 20's.

So, no I would not be paying you. Not in my DNA. In fact I'd trash you so bad you'd be running back to your cult looking for backup.

I laugh at you because I know your type. A weak, insecure, little man, looking for affirmation and who can only run his mouth when he has people to back him up.
Like really, what type of person lets themselves join a cult?
I should fear someone like you and Mr. wannabe thug life rapper Ibime? Lol. I can't.
You're like most of the conservatives in this thread.

You were sheltered in Nigeria, that's all he's saying. Hence you don't understand pidgin or Nigerian banter, so stop jumping on Nigerian banter with your Americanisms

RodgersAkpafu:
So because the "visioneer" happened to have pale skin, it then means that others are inferior to them ?
Or they are not equal stakeholder in the American project

Even in Britain, south Asians that came here over the last 70 years are claiming and asserting their belonging to this country
While blacks are still wallowing in self pity, self depreciation, and one leg in, one leg out of UK

Asians don dig root here and are even daring the country to try uproot them if them fit lol

Maybe because these Asians embrace conservative values, they dont wallow in victimhood, they take responsibility for their failures and success
If you check CEOs of top Fortune 500 companies, you will see them well represented

Dude, you're comparing apples with oranges.

Many of those Asians come from very wealthy families, they are also well connected right from childhood. They are basically the Asian versions of Elon musk.

African Americans didn't start with that same history in life, most African Americans were born into poverty and insecurity and faced racism all their lives and had no access to education.

raumdeuter:
Maybe because these Asians embrace conservative values, they dont wallow in victimhood, they take responsibility for their failures and success
If you check CEOs of top Fortune 500 companies, you will see them well represented

raumdeuter:
Maybe because these Asians embrace conservative values, they dont wallow in victimhood, they take responsibility for their failures and success
If you check CEOs of top Fortune 500 companies, you will see them well represented

in this UK or another one
You are playing

You missed the point totally

Ghostagain:
Dude, you're comparing apples with oranges.

Many of those Asians come from very wealthy families, they are also well connected right from childhood. They are basically the Asian versions of Elon musk.

African Americans didn't start with that same history in life, most African Americans were born into poverty and insecurity and faced racism all their lives and had no access to education.

Two crates of beer 🍺 for you

Ghostagain:
Dude, you're comparing apples with oranges.

Many of those Asians come from very wealthy families, they are also well connected right from childhood. They are basically the Asian versions of Elon musk.

African Americans didn't start with that same history in life, most African Americans were born into poverty and insecurity and faced racism all their lives and had no access to education.

Excuses are like shoe sizes you will always find one.
Most of those Indians were born into and lived in a caste system society before migrating, they come here with their accent and still manage to excel not by giving excuses. They have the highest household incomes, Many fortune 500, and Ivy leagues are dominated by them

One thing is their work ethics and strong family structure and values. They are one of the core BRICS member and they are also a nuclear power

IjeBos:
Is it because I wasn't mentally weak enough to join a cult like you?


I wrestled, played football (TE, DE and 3rd and 4th down noseguard weighing 185) and ran track.
My nickname from my football coach was the equivalent of Mt. Vesuvius (something different) because I would blow up everyone in 1on1s even people with 100 pounds on me.
Went to my highschool reunion and the O and D line guys I would destroy in practice were telling me I had my "man strength" as a kid.

I was the kid with the funny name who came from Africa. You know the African Bushbuggy. I was picked on and jumped as a kid until one day I decided that was enough. They chased us, my older brother left me, ran home and I decided I'd find the biggest kid and trash him mercilessly even though I got hurt. I did and that was the end of them picking on me. Grew up with this absurd notion that you either respected me or I'd make you fear me. So, I became an a-hole who people feared. Grew out of that in my mid 20's.

So, no I would not be paying you. Not in my DNA. In fact I'd trash you so bad you'd be running back to your cult looking for backup.

I laugh at you because I know your type. A weak, insecure, little man, looking for affirmation and who can only run his mouth when he has people to back him up.
Like really, what type of person lets themselves join a cult?
I should fear someone like you and Mr. wannabe thug life rapper Ibime? Lol. I can't.
You're like most of the conservatives in this thread.

Kikikiki you isa champions Ina boxing ah too. All ah this and ya isa gey-hey Kikikikikiki