₦airaland Forum

RodgersAkpafu:
in this UK or another one
You are playing

You missed the point totally

Most of the people on this list were born in India and came to the west later in life

I hate wasting my time on indoctrinated fools.

Ghostagain:
Apart from Russia, which European country is in brics ?

You think you're schooling me ?

Dude, you're annoying me with your ignorance! That is what you are doing. What I said to you was not an insult, it's an accurate description of you.

You know next to nothing.

And you even dare to call me a liberal So stating facts makes me a liberal ?
Your indoctrination is top tier mr man.

He even called European economies paper tigers.

Yet Indians are fleeing en masses to the land of "paper tigers"

Which kind thing be diswan now lol

Kash Patel is seeing what the future is going to be like.

Y'all dumbasses ain't seen nothing yet

IbeOkehie:


Black Africans collectively were the major enablers of the Slave Trade. No amount of rationalization can erase that FACT.

The Africans went to Europe to advertise their product, and built big ships to export said product, and interbred them on site to increase that product to work the land they the Africans owned for profit Africans reaped the most of?

Seriously, I don't really know how to respond to you, especially when I follow the money gained from slavery, which in your version of history, would have flowed to Africa.

RodgersAkpafu:
He even called European economies paper tigers.

Yet Indians are fleeing en masses to the land of "paper tigers"

Which kind thing be diswan now lol

European economies got a head start on everyone else, but how are they faring now? They are falling behind

How us a list of top economies by GDP and let us see where they stand

I can help you

https://www.statista.com/statistics/268173/countries-with-the-largest-gross-domestic-product-gdp/

raumdeuter:
European economies got a head start on everyone else, but how are they faring now? They are falling behind

How us a list of top economies by GDP and let us see where they stand

I can help you

India has over 1.4 billion souls
with a 4 trillion economy

Britain has 70 million people
with over 3.6 trillion economy

even Germany with 82m people has edged out India that is over 20 times more populated

Again, I ask....

WHO DO YOU THIS THING?!!!!

budaatum:
The Africans went to Europe to advertise their product, and built big ships to export said product, and interbred them on site to increase that product to work the land they the Africans owned for profit Africans reaped the most of?

Seriously, I don't really know how to respond to you, especially when I follow the money gained from slavery, which in your version of history, would have flowed to Africa.

The victor's work was thoroughly done on that one's head.

RodgersAkpafu:
India has over 1.4 billion souls
with a 4 trillion economy

Britain has 70 million people
with over 3.6 trillion economy

even Germany with 82m people has edged out India that is over 20 times more populated

Again, I ask....

WHO DO YOU THIS THING?!!!!

If its strictly by population US will not have 10 times of UK GDP while being just 5 times in population

India has always been heavily populated yet we can see the steady progression in the last 40yrs from not featuring in top 10 to now top 5, while the paper tigers of Europe continue to fall behind while the UK, France have fallen out of top 5

Its so bad that Europe depends on the US for its security

IbeOkehie:


Black Africans collectively were the major enablers of the Slave Trade. No amount of rationalization can erase that FACT.

Yes, Haiti is the next Singapore and Liberia will soon match South Korean prosperity. And of course Nigeria is already the Giant of Africa except for that other place at the bottom of the African map, what's that place again?

Sorry for the reminder.

Good Luck to Nigerians!!!

Too much wrong with your thoughts. Also just a lack of knowledge of history.

But lets just take Haiti as an example. Do you know the kind of economic sabotage Haiti has been subjected to?

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The debt imposed on Haiti by France, often referred to as the "Independence Debt" or "ransom," is a pivotal and highly criticized chapter in Haiti's history.

Here is a summary of the key historical points:

Haitian Independence (1804): Following a successful, 13-year revolution by enslaved people—the only successful slave revolt in history that led to the formation of a state—Haiti declared its independence from France.

The Indemnity Demand (1825): For over two decades, Haiti was internationally isolated and faced the constant threat of a French invasion to re-establish slavery. In 1825, twenty-one years after independence, King Charles X of France sent a fleet of warships to Haiti and demanded an indemnity in exchange for official French diplomatic recognition.

The Amount and Purpose: The demand was for 150 million francs (an immense sum, about ten times Haiti's annual revenue at the time, and far exceeding the French King's own estimated losses). The payment was ostensibly to compensate former French slaveholders for the loss of their "property" (their land and the enslaved people).

Coercion and Consequence: Haiti's President, Jean-Pierre Boyer, signed the agreement under the duress of the French naval fleet, fearing military conflict and seeking an end to international isolation. This also came with a demand for a 50% discount on duties for French imports.

The Debt Trap: To make the first payment, Haiti was immediately forced to take out a massive loan from French banks, creating a "double debt."

Restructuring and Final Payment: In 1838, France agreed to reduce the remaining debt to 60 million francs. However, the costs, including interest and later loans, continued to cripple the young nation. Haiti's government spent the next century prioritizing debt repayment over essential services like education and health. Haiti finally paid off all the associated debt and interest in 1947.

This debt is widely viewed by historians and activists as a primary cause of Haiti's historical poverty and underdevelopment, essentially forcing the world's first free black republic to pay its former colonizer for its own freedom. In 2003, then-President Jean-Bertrand Aristide demanded France repay the modern equivalent of the indemnity, estimated at over $21 billion, a demand that was met with strong international opposition and preceded his ouster in 2004.

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Now, the Haitian Debt issue is just one thing. One issue out of a gazillion issues. If you educate yourself better on these things you would not simply spring to the laziest possible conclusions such as white skin good, black skin bad. The historical issues are far far deeper than that and deserve far more serious thought.

As an aside, let me just throw a pre-emptive strike at what I know you will say anyway. Namely: No one is saying here that Africans do not have serious developmental issues arising from our own fault. Like every other people, we do.

raumdeuter:
If its strictly by population US will not have 10 times of UK GDP while being just 5 times in population

India has always been heavily populated yet we can see the steady progression in the last 40yrs from not featuring in top 10 to now top 5, while the paper tigers of Europe continue to fall behind while the UK, France have fallen out of top 5

Its so bad that Europe depends on the US for its security

So if india had over 20 times the populations of the UK
and barely "gaps" Britain

what does that say bout India?

Na wa ooo

RodgersAkpafu:
So if india had over 20 times the populations of the UK
and barely "gaps" Britain

what does that say bout India?

Na wa ooo

Your thinking on this matter is far too limited and simplistic.

DeepSight:
Your thinking on this matter is far too limited and simplistic.

Population is a MAJOR driver of GDP
Dont forget GDP is aggregation of economic activity

Hence more people = more economic activity = more GDP

Why Japan is sliding down is because they are losing people = less economic activity = less GDP

Mass migration of Indians out of India send billions and billions back home
Those back home then engage in economic activity hence increase in GDP (this a major transmission of economic growth in India, even though there are others such as outsourcing)

RodgersAkpafu:
So if india had over 20 times the populations of the UK
and barely "gaps" Britain

what does that say bout India?

Na wa ooo

Its like someone who looks at the score board to analyze a game

See where India was 40yrs ago and where UK was 40yrs ago
Now see where India is today and where UK is today

That will show you the trajectory and how the EU paper tigers are falling behind, The only thing going for UK is Big brother US commitment to carrying UK on its back

Take away US its like any other 2nd world economy just with electricity and snow.

That is why Starmer and the Royal family go to kiss Trumps feet regularly

RodgersAkpafu:
Population is a MAJOR driver of GDP
Dont forget GDP is aggregation of economic activity

Hence more people = more economic activity = more GDP

Why Japan is sliding down is because they are losing people = less economic activity = less GDP

Mass migration of Indians out of India send billions and billions back home
Those back home then engage in economic activity hence increase in GDP (this a major transmission of economic growth in India, even though there are others such as outsourcing)

India and China were the most populous countries in the world in 1995 and as recent as 2000, Yet none of them made the top 5 GDP in those years. Shey na today dem begin get population?

Nigeria Indonesia and Pakistan are in the top 7 most populated in the world, where and what is their GDP

raumdeuter:
India and China were the most populous countries in the world in 1995 and as recent as 2000, Yet none of them made the top 5 GDP

That is true
Their economy has grown due to globalisation
But it is still stunted compared to the population there, thats the fact

Nigerian economy was marginally bigger than that of South Africa because of more people driving economic activity in Nigeria

There is period of economic growth, and then period of economic maturity and stagnation

China has gotten there
The USA is there
Europe has been there for a min

Its like a child growing
Your rate of growing tall reduces as u near maturity
Its clear

RodgersAkpafu:
Population is a MAJOR driver of GDP
Dont forget GDP is aggregation of economic activity

Hence more people = more economic activity = more GDP

Why Japan is sliding down is because they are losing people = less economic activity = less GDP

Mass migration of Indians out of India send billions and billions back home
Those back home then engage in economic activity hence increase in GDP (this a major transmission of economic growth in India, even though there are others such as outsourcing)

You haven't started. Dig deeper. I charge you, I conjure you.

RodgersAkpafu:
That is true
Their economy has grown due to globalisation
But it is still stunted compared to the population there, thats the fact

Nigerian economy was marginally bigger than that of South Africa because of more people driving economic activity in Nigeria

There is period of economic growth, and then period of economic maturity and stagnation

China has gotten there
The USA is there
Europe has been there for a min

Its like a child growing
Your rate of growing tall reduces as u near maturity
Its clear

Europe is on its way down and these countries like India and China you look down on are on their way up

Europe is like that finished athlete past his prime whose claim to fame were his exploits decades ago

budaatum:
The Africans went to Europe to advertise their product, and built big ships to export said product, and interbred them on site to increase that product to work the land they the Africans owned for profit Africans reaped the most of?

Seriously, I don't really know how to respond to you, especially when I follow the money gained from slavery, which in your version of history, would have flowed to Africa.

American & European Whites, Arabs AND Black Africans each share substantial blame for the Slave Trades.

And Black Africans earned lots of money from the trade too. What did they do with it?

Good Luck to Nigerians

raumdeuter:
India and China were the most populous countries in the world in 1995 and as recent as 2000, Yet none of them made the top 5 GDP in those years. Shey na today dem begin get population?

Nigeria Indonesia and Pakistan are in the top 7 most populated in the world, where and what is their GDP

Your thinking on this matter is lost at sea. Recalibrate and dig deep, I urge you, I conjure you, I somersault and slide upside-down diagonally and apprehend you: now think better.

Ibime:
You were sheltered in Nigeria, that's all he's saying. Hence you don't understand pidgin or Nigerian banter, so stop jumping on Nigerian banter with your Americanisms

This is what he said.
You are trying to tell me what my eyes can see.

kentebemoney:

Lwkmd
Ijebos na one of those "get inside!!" Children, him no wise at all.
Him type dey pay me every semester, those days 😂

I was sheltered where?
Do you even have sense? In Nigeria, I would be around all me extended family esp. cousins all the time.
That's how people live in Naij, well at least in the East.

RodgersAkpafu:
So because the "visioneer" happened to have pale skin, it then means that others are inferior to them ?
Or they are not equal stakeholder in the American project

Even in Britain, south Asians that came here over the last 70 years are claiming and asserting their belonging to this country
While blacks are still wallowing in self pity, self depreciation, and one leg in, one leg out of UK

Asians don dig root here and are even daring the country to try uproot them if them fit lol

The "Visioneer", architect, engineer, technicians, labourers.
The Pentagon (the us military hq), which amongst the listed above, would take the biggest credit for the building.
Note: I would never be found among those people who try to downplay the role of labourers.
Simple question, just answer!!!!
Any day 75% of those "whites" decide that they want an ethnic pure country, they will have it.

nateevs:
It was not just the availability of labour. It was that it was FREE labour. UNPAID labour.

Anyone can dream and achieve anything on the back of free labour. When there's a financial cost, it becomes a different story.

They bought the slaves, remember!!!
That means, if they had machines then, they wouldn't need black slaves, right?

kentebemoney:
They bought the slaves, remember!!!

Bought them and thereby had the free right to also own their children and all descendants right? Ride on/.

IjeBos:
Is it because I wasn't mentally weak enough to join a cult like you?


I wrestled, played football (TE, DE and 3rd and 4th down noseguard weighing 185) and ran track.
My nickname from my football coach was the equivalent of Mt. Vesuvius (something different) because I would blow up everyone in 1on1s even people with 100 pounds on me.
Went to my highschool reunion and the O and D line guys I would destroy in practice were telling me I had my "man strength" as a kid.

I was the kid with the funny name who came from Africa. You know the African Bushbuggy. I was picked on and jumped as a kid until one day I decided that was enough. They chased us, my older brother left me, ran home and I decided I'd find the biggest kid and trash him mercilessly even though I got hurt. I did and that was the end of them picking on me. Grew up with this absurd notion that you either respected me or I'd make you fear me. So, I became an a-hole who people feared. Grew out of that in my mid 20's.

So, no I would not be paying you. Not in my DNA. In fact I'd trash you so bad you'd be running back to your cult looking for backup.

I laugh at you because I know your type. A weak, insecure, little man, looking for affirmation and who can only run his mouth when he has people to back him up.
Like really, what type of person lets themselves join a cult?
I should fear someone like you and Mr. wannabe thug life rapper Ibime? Lol. I can't.
You're like most of the conservatives in this thread.

With all these things wey you do, man like you dey pound you wetin no good.
You are a disappointment.

DeepSight:
Bought them and thereby had the free right to also own their children and all descendants right? Ride on/.

Quit being emotional guy, slavery was a universal fact and part of life then.

kentebemoney:
Quit being emotional guy, slavery was a universal fact and part of life then.

I said ride on. Did I argue with you?