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bayelsaowei:
An irresponsible lieing administration..

They just throw AI videos all over the place..

Such shamelessness..

budaatum:
Those of us who've been here long would find your statement amusing.

Cc Basilico,
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5373#136808030

IMAliyu2:
Well, Rest in peace to the Sciences, and Scientific research in America, you contributed a lot the world, and you will be missed.

RodgersAkpafu:
A finished country

raumdeuter:
This is rich coming from someone who lives in the UK where your leaders are coming to lick Trumps feet daily

bayelsaowei:
An irresponsible lieing administration..

They just throw AI videos all over the place..

Such shamelessness..

RodgersAkpafu:
Further proof that you are far deep in the right wing ecosystem

DeepSight:
Basilico, I give you the words of MLK. If you cant see the co-relation with Apartheid SA, well, I cant help you then.

"Now there's another myth that I want to mention, because if we are going to have action programs that will prod the forces in power so that they will make the necessary concessions, we are going to have to understand why the forces in power need to be prodded. Now this leads me to say that we've got to get rid of the myth of over-exaggerating the bootstrap philosophy. By that I simply mean this: Over and over again we hear that the Negro should lift himself by his own bootstraps. Then there are those who say over and over again, "Other ethnic groups did it; why don't you?" Now it doesn't help the Negro for unfeeling and insensitive people to say to him that he's been in this country more than 348 years and was brought here in chains, involuntarily, and yet people who have been here, other ethnic groups who have been here for a hundred or a hundred and fifty years have gotten ahead of him. That doesn't help him at all. That only deepens his problem, his frustration, and almost his self- hatred. For the people who are that insensitive never stop to recognize the fact that no other ethnic group has been a slave on American soil.

They never stop to recognize the fact that the nation made the Negro's color a stigma. It became something evil. You know even linguistics or semantics conspired against us on this. If you open Roget's Thesaurus, you'll find 120 synonyms for black. They are all degrading; smutty, dirty, lowly, every one of them. Now when you look for the 130 synonyms in that thesaurus for white, all of them [are] chaste, pure, everything elevated, and high and noble. So the society through its language structure came to the point of saying that a white lie is better than a black lie. If someone goes wrong in the family, you don't call them a white sheep, it's the black sheep of the family. If you know something about somebody, and you use that as a basis to bribe them and say that if you don't give them this amount of money that you are going to expose them you don't call that whitemail you call it blackmail. Go right down the language structure, and you see that everything conspired to make the Negro think that there was something wrong with him because of his color.

The other thing is that no ethnic group has lifted itself by its own bootstraps. The Negro was freed from the bondage of physical slavery through the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, but he wasn't given any land to make that freedom meaningful. It was something like keeping a man in jail for many, many years, and then suddenly discovering that he is not guilty of the crime for which he was convicted. Then you go to the man and say, "Now you're free," but you don't give him any bus fare to get to town. You don't give him any money to get clothes to put on his back or to get on his feet in life again. Every system of justice or code of jurisprudence would rise up against this, and yet this is exactly what America did to the black man. It freed him from slavery and then left him there penniless, illiterate. He didn't have a thing, and there was no land provided.

The important thing that America must realize is this: That at the same time that she refused to give the black man anything, she was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and the Midwest through an act of Congress. Not only did she give the land, she built land grant colleges to teach them to farm. She provided county agents to help them and to get them expert, to give them expertise in farming. But not only that, the nation provided low interest rates in later years so that they could mechanize their farms.

Not only that, many of these persons are being paid today not to farm, and these are many of the persons who are telling the Negro that he should lift himself by his own bootstraps. A wonderful thing. I guess that it is all right to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. Through centuries of denial, centuries of neglect, and centuries of injustice many, many Negroes have been left bootless.

This does not mean that we do nothing for ourselves. It does not mean that we should not amass our economic and political resources to reach our legitimate goals. It simply means recognizing, the nation recognizing, that it owes a great debt on the basis of the injustices of the past.".

cc: tctrills.

budaatum:
So. In your opinion, the money Black Africans earned from slavery is "lots" compared to the money earned by the slavers they worked for for generations and who bred them for more profit?

Sorry IbeOkehie, but I think you need to go purchase a book on the topic and better inform yourself.

A machine is affected by depreciation over time, but imagine that machine could have babies every year that can replace it or be sold.

The below is a recommendation.

tctrills:
Not interested in reading, not after your racism earlier. You have a very racist agenda, and it doesn't help anyone. You lost me the moment you began calling everyone all kind of names

IbeOkehie:
The question quoted in bold is easily answered - I don't know who got more and if it can be measured it doesn't even matter to any person who engages this topic in good faith.

raumdeuter:
This is rich coming from someone who lives in the UK where your leaders are coming to lick Trumps feet daily

budaatum:
Fact is, they can't. And neither can caucasians in US and Europe chase non-caucasians out.

In fact, they are all doing the opposite, including Japan and China, and are inviting Africans to their countries because they need you to replace their aging populations.

DeepSight:
This statement alone is sufficient for any sane person not to bother discussing with you.

budaatum wrote :
So. In your opinion, the money Black Africans earned from slavery is "lots" compared to the money earned by the slavers they worked for for generations and who bred them for more profit?

IbeOkehie:
White Americans earned money or benefited from the Slave Trade.

Black Africans earned money or benefited from the Slave Trade.

Truth doesn't need much discussion, it's self evident. My previous interlocutor affirmed my opinion by implication.



You might find it more comfortable to engage with them...ask them why and how Black Africans earned from slavery.

Thanks.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

IjeBos:
More Left Wing violence.
..checknotes.
More Right Wing Violence.
Oh yeah, Trump is of course the law and order president.


Republicans are really trying to gaslight people into believing that the Party that reveres guns and violence and likes to cosplay as insurrectionists are the non-violent ones yet the party that wants to get rid of guns and people call hippies are the violent ones.
A lot of cognitive dissonance.

DeepSight:
Basilico, I give you the words of MLK. If you cant see the co-relation with Apartheid SA, well, I cant help you then.

"Now there's another myth that I want to mention, because if we are going to have action programs that will prod the forces in power so that they will make the necessary concessions, we are going to have to understand why the forces in power need to be prodded. Now this leads me to say that we've got to get rid of the myth of over-exaggerating the bootstrap philosophy. By that I simply mean this: Over and over again we hear that the Negro should lift himself by his own bootstraps. Then there are those who say over and over again, "Other ethnic groups did it; why don't you?" Now it doesn't help the Negro for unfeeling and insensitive people to say to him that he's been in this country more than 348 years and was brought here in chains, involuntarily, and yet people who have been here, other ethnic groups who have been here for a hundred or a hundred and fifty years have gotten ahead of him. That doesn't help him at all. That only deepens his problem, his frustration, and almost his self- hatred. For the people who are that insensitive never stop to recognize the fact that no other ethnic group has been a slave on American soil.

They never stop to recognize the fact that the nation made the Negro's color a stigma. It became something evil. You know even linguistics or semantics conspired against us on this. If you open Roget's Thesaurus, you'll find 120 synonyms for black. They are all degrading; smutty, dirty, lowly, every one of them. Now when you look for the 130 synonyms in that thesaurus for white, all of them [are] chaste, pure, everything elevated, and high and noble. So the society through its language structure came to the point of saying that a white lie is better than a black lie. If someone goes wrong in the family, you don't call them a white sheep, it's the black sheep of the family. If you know something about somebody, and you use that as a basis to bribe them and say that if you don't give them this amount of money that you are going to expose them you don't call that whitemail you call it blackmail. Go right down the language structure, and you see that everything conspired to make the Negro think that there was something wrong with him because of his color.

The other thing is that no ethnic group has lifted itself by its own bootstraps. The Negro was freed from the bondage of physical slavery through the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, but he wasn't given any land to make that freedom meaningful. It was something like keeping a man in jail for many, many years, and then suddenly discovering that he is not guilty of the crime for which he was convicted. Then you go to the man and say, "Now you're free," but you don't give him any bus fare to get to town. You don't give him any money to get clothes to put on his back or to get on his feet in life again. Every system of justice or code of jurisprudence would rise up against this, and yet this is exactly what America did to the black man. It freed him from slavery and then left him there penniless, illiterate. He didn't have a thing, and there was no land provided.

The important thing that America must realize is this: That at the same time that she refused to give the black man anything, she was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and the Midwest through an act of Congress. Not only did she give the land, she built land grant colleges to teach them to farm. She provided county agents to help them and to get them expert, to give them expertise in farming. But not only that, the nation provided low interest rates in later years so that they could mechanize their farms.

Not only that, many of these persons are being paid today not to farm, and these are many of the persons who are telling the Negro that he should lift himself by his own bootstraps. A wonderful thing. I guess that it is all right to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. Through centuries of denial, centuries of neglect, and centuries of injustice many, many Negroes have been left bootless.

This does not mean that we do nothing for ourselves. It does not mean that we should not amass our economic and political resources to reach our legitimate goals. It simply means recognizing, the nation recognizing, that it owes a great debt on the basis of the injustices of the past.".

cc: tctrills.

happney65:

DeepSight:
Good luck to you too.

What a shame.

What a deep deep, deep, sad pitiful shame.

IjeBos:
Levels of corruption that will make Nigerian Presidents blush in jealousy and excitement at what new things they'll do.

The President of the US is going to direct his DOJ (stacked with his own personal defense attorneys) to settle with him for 230 million taxpayer dollars.
Holy Batman.
This is breathtaking corruption.

And the problem is that the Supreme Court made Trump immune. And if he pre pardons everyone who did this, he would have just stolen 230 million dollars scott free.

Raumdeuter, come defend your boy.

budaatum:
Those of us who've been here long would find your statement amusing.

Cc Basilico,
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5373#136808030

IbeOkehie:
For reason of ideological alignment, it's LIKELY you might find it more comfortable to engage with them ...ask them why and how Black Africans earned from slavery.