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Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 1:51pm On Oct 24, 2025
nurudeen181:
They were still in Anambra then
Lagos does not belong to Ogun, Osun, Ilorin, Ondo, Ekiti and Oyo States, it belong to every Nigerian, enough of this unnecessary disturbance on Nairaland
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 1:54pm On Oct 24, 2025
Christistruth03:
It is Obvious you don't even know who the Ewe are🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

They Originated from Oyo and adopted the Fon Language of their Neighbours !!!!!!

They are also in Benin Republic, Togo and Ghana!!!!!

They are of Oyo Ancesstry!!!

Please stay away from our History

You don't know anything about it!!!

It was because of Egun and Ewe that Oyo in alliance with others fought and defeated the Ashanti of Ghana in the Atakpame battle of 1763.

It was too protect the Egun and Ewe that the Oyo Kingdom reached Ghana.

Alaafin was their Military Protector and they are Alaafins Children 🤣🤣🤣
Being part of Oyo empire does not make them Yoruba, what is the name of their language? stop feeding yourself with lies omo iya
How do you sleep at night with all these lies you kept feeding yourself? you dey try ooo grin grin grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 1:57pm On Oct 24, 2025
SonOfDSoil01:
😂😂😂pain am?guess who have been crying on my mention..Okoro and reverse psychology be like 5&6 and btw why should I be pained when I’m a Lagos aborigine and you are the one that envy what I have🤣🤣 indeed Lagos belong to all Nigerians, so is Anambala but may I remind you, even in animal farm, all animals are not equal, that’s why we still use state of origin and unfortunately for you, you can never be from Lagos 😂😂😂😂
I doubt you had a proper sleep last night, due to the unbearable pains you went through yesterday, i pity you hence why i didn't reply yesterday, i don't want to cause death to someone over Lagos that belong to all Nigeria grin grin

Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 2:04pm On Oct 24, 2025
Ttalk:
Lagos to you is London. Do you wish to be buried in Lagos when you die?
Lagos belong to the Igbos and other Nigerians, people from Osun, Ondo, Oyo, Ilorin, Ogun, and Ekiti should go and develop their states and leave Lagos alone. If Lagos isn't your United States and London then why do all southwest states want to die on top of small Lagos? grin grin

Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by SonOfDSoil01: 2:08pm On Oct 24, 2025
Gerhards:
I doubt you had a proper sleep last night, due to the unbearable pains you went through yesterday, i pity you hence why i didn't reply yesterday, i don't want to cause death to someone over Lagos that belong to all Nigeria grin grin
😂😂😂😂 see how my state of i origin Dey give some shameless people headache………indeed Yoruba lagba, we will continue to be the envy of them all, continue creating your happiness online, while reality hit you differently, mgbeke feeling funky 😂😂

Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by 7lives: 2:47pm On Oct 24, 2025
forgiveness:
Eko are not Benin. Stop lying here.

Eko are Yoruba descendants that came back from slavery and the Indigenous Eko people.
The first Yorubas in Lagos were the descendants of Olokun Seniade, they lived on an island on the Atlantic ocean.
They lost a chunk of their land and migrated to the west coast, Lagos being one of those coast.
Aworis came next through Olofin Ogunfunminire, they are called Awori.
There were also Brazillian returnees mostly Yorubas one was Darocha, Nigeria's first millionaire, he was a Yoruba man.
There are also Yorubas from Sierra Leone, they are called Kooruma.
Tapa people came in true Balogun Oshodi Tapa.
The Eguns are originally from Popo, the colonial map cut them into Lagos.
There are also Oyo, Egba and Ijebus who were brought in by trades.
Ko je bi o se je.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by 7lives: 3:15pm On Oct 24, 2025
Gerhards:
Being part of Oyo empire does not make them Yoruba, what is the name of their language? stop feeding yourself with lies omo iya
How do you sleep at night with all these lies you kept feeding yourself? you dey try ooo grin grin grin
Ewe and Ga are Yoruba, their language though a bit altered, when they write in their language, a Yoruba person can easily decode what they wrote.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by lordwoz: 4:39pm On Oct 24, 2025
Dogalmighty17:
So Hausa have looooong been indigenes of Lagos state. And they aren't making noise about it. They have every right to demand for a local government of their own in Lagos.
Omo they don't have the right o abeg. LAGOS is Yoruba mans land
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03: 4:47pm On Oct 24, 2025
Gerhards:
Being part of Oyo empire does not make them Yoruba, what is the name of their language? stop feeding yourself with lies omo iya
How do you sleep at night with all these lies you kept feeding yourself? you dey try ooo grin grin grin
7lives:
Ewe and Ga are Yoruba, their language though a bit altered, when they write in their language, a Yoruba person can easily decode what they wrote.
Ga Tribe of Ghana migrated from Ile Ife and are the same people but different clan of the Egun who descended from Onipopo Oduduwa's son

We said Ewe have Oyo Ancestry and that Alaafin is their father.

It is you who live on lies for your survival .
We don't need to do that because the Truth is on our side

You are already twisting what I said because you are aware that the Truth is not with you
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03: 4:54pm On Oct 24, 2025
Gerhards:
Lagos does not belong to Ogun, Osun, Ilorin, Ondo, Ekiti and Oyo States, it belong to every Nigerian, enough of this unnecessary disturbance on Nairaland
Lagos is Yorubaland
This is the 1890 Map of Yorubaland with
Lagos in it 24 years before Nigeria was ever
created

It is not our fault that you donated your once very peaceful SE to ipob who have turned it into a huge bonfire.

We warned you for years but you heaped more insults on us with every warning

Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03: 5:21pm On Oct 24, 2025
7lives:
The first Yorubas in Lagos were the descendants of Olokun Seniade, they lived on an island on the Atlantic ocean.
They lost a chunk of their land and migrated to the west coast, Lagos being one of those coast.
Aworis came next through Olofin Ogunfunminire, they are called Awori.
There were also Brazillian returnees mostly Yorubas one was Darocha, Nigeria's first millionaire, he was a Yoruba man.
There are also Yorubas from Sierra Leone, they are called Kooruma.
Tapa people came in true Balogun Oshodi Tapa.
The Eguns are originally from Popo, the colonial map cut them into Lagos.
There are also Oyo, Egba and Ijebus who were brought in by trades.
Ko je bi o se je.
Omo re bi Iyan

moba Yorubas were settled in moba Lagos well before the 9th Century before Oduduwa whose Son Oranmiyan established the Benin Throne and Kingdom was Born
They are currently classified with the Awori people but we're in Lagos many Centuries earlier

In the 10th Century when the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha fetched from the Lagos Sea Water to cure Oduduwa's blindness there were already moba Yorubas. In Lagos and he spent 2 months with them
The idol Worshippers Olokun diety was actually a moba King called Seniade that ruled from an Island off the coast of Lagos that has now been Submerged by the Sea.
The moba built the UNESCO world heritage 9th Century eredo Wall near Ijebu and their kingdom included many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

They have now been included with the Awori people but we're actually the Original Inhabitants of Lagos and were in Lagos Centuries before Oduduwa was Born

The Oore of Otun Ekiti migrated from moba in Lagos and is a direct descendant of Seniade one of the Moba kings now deified as Olokun by Traditional Worshippers

moba is near Victoria Island and their Crown predates Oduduwa's own


Yorubas forefathers might not have been great at Technology but God Almighty definitely gave them Prodigious History Art and Music
All Glory be to God Almighty


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM5oqM_7h54?si=3NR26xTVzzJIa7K9
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by femi4: 5:21pm On Oct 24, 2025
Commentor:
Yet they want to call it no man's land.

huh
So you believe northerners came to lagos before igbos

Which is closer to the SW..East or North
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by lawani(m): 5:26pm On Oct 24, 2025
femi4:
So you believe northerners came to lagos before igbos

Which is closer to the SW..East or North
Yes of course Hausas were known to Yoruba centuries before Igbos. It was the British that brought Igbos to Yoruba land.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03: 5:26pm On Oct 24, 2025
femi4:
So you believe northerners came to lagos before igbos

Which is closer to the SW..East or North
Do you know that the Nupe ,Bariba and Kanuri share the same Ancient pre Oduduwa Ancestors as the Yorubas

The Gobir Hausa have some Yoruba Ancestry they lived in Oyo in the 15 th Century as Military allies of Oyo.

Gobir Hausa were the first to call Ife diaspora "Yoruba"
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by IGBOPROMISE1: 5:51pm On Oct 24, 2025
Ojuntana:
All these figures are not reliable
People generally shied away from census in the colonial period
The period in question wasn’t colonial! At that time the areas concerned were owned and governed by the Royal Niger Company! They sold our forefathers estate to Queen Victorias’ gov’t around 1900, and amalgamated our black ass with the Northern Region in 1914! So at the time of the census in question, no one from the east had any compelling reason to be in Lagos!
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by IGBOPROMISE1: 5:55pm On Oct 24, 2025
Christistruth03:
Lagos is Yorubaland
This is the 1890 Map of Yorubaland with
Lagos in it 24 years before Nigeria was ever
created

It is not our fault that you donated your once very peaceful SE to ipob who have turned it into a huge bonfire.

We warned you for years but you heaped more insults on us with every warning
Care to explain how you’re claiming Lagos as belonging to you as a Yoruba man, but the oyel and gas in the east and Niger delta belongs to all of us!? Make that make sense!
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03:
IGBOPROMISE1:
Care to explain how you’re claiming Lagos as belonging to you as a Yoruba man, but the oyel and gas in the east and Niger delta belongs to all of us!? Make that make sense!
Ondo get Oil and it went to FG too.

Apart from that FG owes Lagos 150 years of
Port and Seme border duties and Taxes .

Meanwhile You had no problem at all with your own fathers that fully claimed Enugu and umuahia for themselves though they both were founded and built by Lord Lugard and the British
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Afrojuju2017(m): 8:13pm On Oct 24, 2025
qtx:
No be wetin the colo tell una una de believe? At this time and age after they left us, they still tell us everything about us and determine where we came from, where we are going and how we will end . Chai!
You do know this was gotten from.a legacy document from 1891 that was always publicly available.
Why statisence choose to put it on their social media feed is what they can explain.

The importance of the information to me in particular is neither here nor there
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 8:26pm On Oct 24, 2025
Nwaikpe:
You overate yourselves because of the strategic advantage of Lagos. grin grin grin

Some how, you think that Lagos defines all of Yoruba. Come on!

grin grin grin

Before the creation of Lagos, that is before the discovery of Lagos by the Portugese, Olu Atuwatse a fellow Benin man, was already well schooled in the University of Coimbra. That is one of my direct blood ancestors. Direct blood from the same street in Benin. You know very little about the Presbyterian Church of Scotland Mission in 1846 in Calabar and the Roman Catholic Mission (RCM) in the 1860s in the area now called Igbo. You somehow think that because the center of commerce was Lagos, therefore Nigeria, colonial and precolonial, surrounded it.

Read your history: colonial-era administration based more in Calabar (Abuja of those days) than in Lagos. Lagos was just a point of commerce. That was its luck till today. The greatest social interaction between the colonials and the people happened with the Igbo people through the Church.

That is why:
Because of the presence of more whites in Lagos by reason of commerce, they built more schools there, and therefore the locals were more educated in number than in other regions. But because of the interactions socially with the Igbos, they were naturally smarter and more integrated with the Western European world than other regions.
You can't even convince yourself with this point. Look at how you struggle to make a point but ended up with no point
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 11:20am On Oct 25, 2025
SonOfDSoil01:
😂😂😂😂 see how my state of i origin Dey give some shameless people headache………indeed Yoruba lagba, we will continue to be the envy of them all, continue creating your happiness online, while reality hit you differently, mgbeke feeling funky 😂😂
You are not from Lagos state, like Eriokanmi, he's a fully known Lagosian, but you who his father came from Oko Ose in ilorin claiming Lagos because he has stayed in Lagos for decades, dude it's never going to work, i think it's high time to accept the truth and stop deceiving yourself, Lagos does not belong to Ogun, Ondo, Osun, Oyo, and Ekiti states, develop your states and leave Lagos alone.

Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 11:21am On Oct 25, 2025
7lives:
Ewe and Ga are Yoruba, their language though a bit altered, when they write in their language, a Yoruba person can easily decode what they wrote.
They are not Yoruba, you guys are suffering from delusion, una go dey alright last last, fact!! grin grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by SonOfDSoil01: 11:49am On Oct 25, 2025
Gerhards:
You are not from Lagos state, like Eriokanmi, he's a fully known Lagosian, but you who his father came from Oko Ose in ilorin claiming Lagos because he has stayed in Lagos for decades, dude it's never going to work, i think it's high time to accept the truth and stop deceiving yourself, Lagos does not belong to Ogun, Ondo, Osun, Oyo, and Ekiti states, develop your states and leave Lagos alone.
😂😂😂😂your pains are indeed severe😂😂😂 I guess the people from Lagos are special people and they are ibos by tribe and Lagos as now been added as the 6th state in sad yeast🤣🤣🤣 see how my state of origin just Dey cause some shameles people pains…..continue crying cos as he Dey pain dem, he Dey sweet us🤣🤣🤣

Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by IGBOPROMISE1: 5:55pm On Oct 25, 2025
Christistruth03:
Ondo get Oil and it went to FG too.

Apart from that FG owes Lagos 150 years of
Port and Seme border duties and Taxes .

Meanwhile You had no problem at all with your own fathers that fully claimed Enugu and umuahia for themselves though they both were founded and built by Lord Lugard and the British
Your ‘argument’ is evasive, selective and full of deceit!

You’re yet to tell us how or why Ondo oyel (which i gather is domiciled wholly or mainly in the Ijaw part of the state) is owned and administered by the federal gov’t for all to share, yet you somehow figured out that Lagos belongs to Yoruba, even from as far afield as Irajibi, and should be controlled solely by una! What part of the Nigerian constitution gave you that idea!? It seems to me that you’re making up the rules as you go along, depending on how it falls in line with your economic and political agenda!

Luckily for you, your godfather is now presiding over affairs in Nigeria! Go tell him to authorise payment of 150 years of port and Seme border duties and taxes owed Lagos state gov’t! And while at it, also tell him to refund south-east and south-south billions of dollars in lieu of our time, effort and resources disproportionately channelled into developing Lagos from 1960 right up till when the federal capital moved to Abuja! Last i checked, you haven’t refunded shishi before wanting to claim Lagos all to yourselves! I deliberately left out the north from the expected financial windfall coming to the south-east and south-south because they were complicit in setting up the structure and political-economy that disproportionately favoured Lagos/south-west and the north-west over others both economically and politically!
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by MrSly(m): 7:16pm On Oct 25, 2025
Nwaikpe:
After 50 years, I will also ask you to tell me the ancestral land pf the Igbo people staying in Lagos.

grin grin grin
Shifting the goal post. No igbo cares about Lagos or who owns it. Their only concern is that when they buy any piece of land keep off from it. But Eko is indigenous people of Lagos. Any osun, omotosho, Ogun, Ibadan, Ekiti and other Yorubas listing covetting and claiming Lagos are only but a thieves. If you want Lagos buy a land there. Get it to your skull.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03:
IGBOPROMISE1:
Your ‘argument’ is evasive, selective and full of deceit!

You’re yet to tell us how or why Ondo oyel (which i gather is domiciled wholly or mainly in the Ijaw part of the state) is owned and administered by the federal gov’t for all to share, yet you somehow figured out that Lagos belongs to Yoruba, even from as far afield as Irajibi, and should be controlled solely by una! What part of the Nigerian constitution gave you that idea!? It seems to me that you’re making up the rules as you go along, depending on how it falls in line with your economic and political agenda!

Luckily for you, your godfather is now presiding over affairs in Nigeria! Go tell him to authorise payment of 150 years of port and Seme border duties and taxes owed Lagos state gov’t! And while at it, also tell him to refund south-east and south-south billions of dollars in lieu of our time, effort and resources disproportionately channelled into developing Lagos from 1960 right up till when the federal capital moved to Abuja! Last i checked, you haven’t refunded shishi before wanting to claim Lagos all to yourselves! I deliberately left out the north from the expected financial windfall coming to the south-east and south-south because they were complicit in setting up the structure and political-economy that disproportionately favoured Lagos/south-west and the north-west over others both economically and politically!
Ilaje are not Ijaws

It is your own Argument that is full of deception .
Why did your own fathers claim Enugu and Umuahia that was founded and built by Lord Lugard and the British ?

Lagos was already 400 years old and busiest port in West Africa long before the British arrived in 1851

Lagos was already booooooommmmmmiiiiiiiinnnnggggg
Long before Nigeria found Oil

Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Konquest: 5:00am On Oct 26, 2025
BlackViper:
https://x.com/StatiSense/status/1674431493236723712?t=oP5vIBnKmJ0BUtRu2NQRbA&s=19[/quote]I see a lot of highly uneducated posters on this thread.

The LAGOS of the 1891 census that is being refered to in the OPs post is "Lagos Island" (Isale Eko) NOT the entire Lagos State of today. Eko is the short form of "ereko" which means pepper farm BECAUSE Lagos Island was used as a farming settlement centuries back by the Aworis who are the descendants of Olofin Ogunfunminire a Prince of Ile Ife who migrated to what is now Lagos State through Ogun State under the guidance of Ifa divination.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Konquest:
jaxxy:
The Eko tribe where the Edo's front (sic) Benin kingdom.
What you wrote right ABOVE is totally FALSE.

I know this because I've got strong family ties to Lagos Island and I know the history very well at least since the early 1980s. The "Eko" people being refered to in that 1891 census of Lagos Island, NOT the whole of what is now the entire Lagos State are the Awori subgroup of Yoruba descent from Isale Eko. The other Yoruba subgroups living on Lagos Island as of the 1891 census are the other Aworis who came from Awori towns outside Lagos Island, the Egbas, the Ekitis, the Ijesas, the Ijebus, the Oyos, the Ilorins, etc. The Bini elements were a minority and got absorbed into the larger Eko (Aworis) people, BUT the Lagos Island landowners were the indigenous Ekos (Aworis). The Eko subgroup of the Yorubas are part of the larger indigenous Awori people whose ancestral lands extend from Lagos State right into Ota and environs in Ogun State. The Ekos (Aworis) and the their kith and kin in Ogun State are the direct descendants of Olofin Ogunfunminire an Ile Ife Prince who migrated from Ife in Osun State to what is now Iddo Island and Lagos Island via Isheri over 700 years ago under the guidance of Ifa while carrying a sacrificial plate or "Awo" (hence the name AWO... AWORI) meaning the sacrificial plate was supposed to sink in the river or water as a sign for him to settle at a precise location.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Konquest:
Ecomfreecourse:
Really now I am wondering how a man from osun state took over your dear Lagos state up till now
Many of you sound so highly uninformed on the subject matter of this thread and on the history of the indigenous Yorubas of Lagos Island (Isale Eko) and the Yorubas of the larger Lagos State and their ancestral origins in Osun State.

For your information, Olofin Ogunfunminire who was an Ile Ife Prince is the direct ancestor of the indigenous Aworis (otherwise called Ekos of Lagos Island) and ALSO of the Aworis in Ota and contiguous areas in Ogun State. Olofin Ogunfunminire migrated over 700 years ago under IFA's guidance and a sacrificial plate from what is now called Ile Ife in OSUN State just like many Yoruba communities and Yoruba SUB-ETHNIC groups such as the Oyos, the Aworis and Ijebus of Lagos and Ogun States, the Ijesas, the Ekitis, the Egbas, the Ilajes, the Ikales, the Usen people of Edo State, the Okuns, Igbominas, Ondos, etc, over the centuries. Therefore the indigenous Yorubas (Aworis, Ijebus, etc) of Lagos State are ancestrally related to Osun State and to one another. So, what's the fuss about someone (now President 'Bola Tinubu) who was born on Lagos Island BUT has his biological mother's roots in Osun State?
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Konquest: 6:39am On Oct 26, 2025
Nwaikpe:
No, sir.
There were NEVER any people living in that area, sir.

Let's assume there were; two things would have happened: the Portuguese, who got there first and named it Lagos, would have respected the name of the place as in "Benin" or "Calabar," or would have cleared the place as in the case of the American Indians.

As I stated, no Yoruba nation is ever known to be riverine. Go through your history. Go through your artifacts. You will never see any evidence that linked the people to tools or means that helped them live or move around water bodies.

You can find it with the Calabar, Ibibio, Urhobo, etc. Check their history and view their historical artifacts.
You sound so highly ill-educated with your bolded comments. STOP the deliberate distortions of other people's cultures and well-documented histories passed down through books written centuries back and from the oral traditions. Second, Eko is the shortened form of "Ereko" meaning "pepper farm" was already named by the indigenous long before the first Portuguese explorers arrived that arrear of Yorubaland to refer to it as Lagos (named after the Lagos in Portugal).

Third, for your information the following indigenous Yoruba people are riverine and lagoon dwellers such as the Aworis of Lagos and Ogun States, the Ijebu people Lagos State from Epe LGA, Ibeju-Lekki LGA, Ikorodu LGA right into the Ijebu Waterside area of Ogun State, and the Ilaje folks of the crude oil and gas-rich ILAJE LGA of Ondo State are the great fishermen and swimmers of the Yoruba people because they live near the rivers, lagoons, and Atlantic Ocean.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Konquest: 6:56am On Oct 26, 2025
OredoPikin2:
u saw Eko and u are asking for Benins
the Eko in Lagos are Benins na or you dont know Eko is Benin?
The EKO people of Isale Eko (Lagos Island) being refered to in the 1891 census results of Lagos Island are the Awori subgroup of Yorubas who are the original indigenes of Lagos Island (or Isale Eko which is the original Yoruba name). As a man who has direct maternal roots on Lagos Island, I can tell you that historically, Eko does NOT mean any "war camp" but EKO is just the shortened Yoruba word from EREKO meaning "pepper farm" BECAUSE the ancestor of the indigenous Awori people of Lagos and Ogun States, Olofin Ogunfunminire was a Prince of Ile Ife who migrated over 700 years ago from Ile Ife to what is now Lagos Island and Iddo Island via Isheri and shared the lands of Eko (Lagos Island) for farming and settlement among his biological children. The famous White Cap Chiefs of Lagos Island (the IDEJOS or White Cap Chiefs) are the direct descendants of Olofin Ogunfunminire and they are the real land owners NOT even the current Oba of Eko (Eleko of Eko) whose current palace is built on leased land belonging to Chief Aromire and his descendants.
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