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| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 9:16am On Jan 04, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. Did Jesus become king in 1914? Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that Jesus was not reigning as king in heaven until October of 1914. They profess that “At that time, “the appointed times of the nations” ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God’s heavenly King.” (“What does the Bible Really Teach?”, pg 217 Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 2005) While the manner at which they arrive at the 1914 dates is demonstrably erroneous and has produced a continuous chain of false prophecies, there is still another matter to be critiqued in this teaching. Jesus did not wait until the 20th century to become king. The Bible is clear that Jesus was already appointed king at His first coming and has been reigning in heaven since His ascension. The apostles carried out their missionary work precisely on the basis that Jesus was already king. When Jesus issued the great commission, He told them: “And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, ‘All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age’” (Matthew 28:18-20). to continue from carm..org "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 8:49am On Jan 05, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. Notice that Jesus does not simply tell them to go. He tells them that He has been given all authority both in heaven and on earth, and therefore they are to go. Their whole ministry of making disciples of all nations was rooted directly in the fact that Jesus presently already ruled with all authority in heaven and on earth. Paul likewise writes of His gospel ministry that “we are ambassadors for Christ” (2 Corinthians 5:20). Ambassadors are sent by kings. The apostles preached with authority because they were commissioned and sent by Christ who possessed all authority. The Apostles went because their king sent them. In the book of Revelation, we also read: “John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood— and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen. Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen” (Revelation 1:4-7). Notice the distinction this makes between future events that will transpire at Christ’s coming and the present tense reality of who Jesus already is at the time that John wrote Revelation. John and the churches already knew Jesus to be “the ruler of the kings of the earth.” That was not something Jesus would later become. That was already who He was. Jesus was reigning from heaven over all the kings of the earth at the time John wrote the book of Revelation which, last I checked, was well before October of 1914. Paul again concurs when He writes that, “He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet” (1 Corinthians 15:25). to continue from carm..org "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 8:26am On Jan 06, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. As far back as Jesus’ birth, the Magi recognized that He was already king: “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him” (Matthew 2:2). In fact, the very words Christ and Messiah mean “anointed one,” and in this context mean that He is the anointed king. The Jehovah’s Witness teaching that Jesus was in heaven for 2,000 years without his royal authority and only became king in the early 20th century at the onset of World War I is untenable in light of the clear New Testament teaching. Jesus came as a king and had already received all authority before He ascended into heaven. Jesus was, is, and ever will be the ruler of the kings of the earth. Jesus did not become Lord and King in the modern era. Jesus has long been the heavenly King. to continue from carm..org "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 8:06am On Jan 07, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. Jehovah’s Witnesses and their many false prophecies Jehovah’s Witnesses have many false prophecies and predictions. They make many claims in their attempt to convert you to their faith. They profess to have the only true Christian church, be the only true representatives of God, have the only correct biblical teaching, and be the only true announcers of Jehovah’s coming kingdom. If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God’s word, then what they say should prove true, especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. The following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, he will probably say something like, “Those are taken out of context,” or “They didn’t claim to be the prophet of God,” or “The light is getting brighter, and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now,” etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses’ literature. to continue from carm..org "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 8:43am On Jan 08, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. Remember Deut. 18:22, “If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.” If someone makes a false prophecy and claims to be a prophet of God, they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do. In 1972 the Jehovah’s Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God. IDENTIFYING THE “PROPHET”–“So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? . . . This “prophet” was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses . . . Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a ‘prophet’ of God. It is another thing to prove it,” (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197). (See Deut. 18:21.) 1897 “Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874,” (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621). 1899 ” . . . the ‘battle of the great day of God Almighty’ (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth’s present rulership, is already commenced,” (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101). to continue from carm..org "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 8:19am On Jan 09, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. 1916 “The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ’s Reign, began in 1873,” (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii). 1918 “Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection,” (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89). 1922 “The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914,” (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262). 1923 “Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge,” (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106). 1925 “The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time, God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year,” (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3). 1925 “It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work,” (Watchtower, Sept. 1925, p. 262). carm..org "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:10am On Feb 15, 2025 |
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| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 9:55pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. continued from the thread: "Who are Jehovah's witnesses" In 1876, Russell became interested in time prophecy, after reading a copy of Barbour's publication Herald of the Morning. The end had not come in 1874, as the Adventists had predicted. However, Barbour explained that Matthew 24:27 meant Jesus' invisible presence commenced in 1874, the rapture would be 1878, and the end of the world was to occur in 1914. (See Watch Tower, 1906 July 15 for a detailed account.) In Russell's doctrinal chronology the most important dates were 1874 and 1914: "The chapter in SCRIPTURE STUDIES, Vol. II, showing the parallels between the Jewish and Christian Dispensations, makes prominent four dates, viz., (1) October, 1874; (2) April, 1878; (3) October, 1881, and (4) October, 1914;" Watch Tower 1911 June 15 p.190 "The careful student will have observed that the period designated 'The Time of the End' is very appropriately named, since not only does the Gospel age close in it, but in it, also, all prophesies relating to the close of this age terminate, reaching their fulfillments. The same class of readers will have noticed, too, the special importance of the last 40 of these 115 years (1874-1914), called 'The End' or 'Harvest.'" Studies in the Scriptures Series III - Thy Kingdom Come p.121 The below timeline shows Russell's preached the Second Coming of Jesus was 1874, and the start of the 1000 year earthly reign was 1914, as it was to end in 2914 A.D. jwfacts dot com
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| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:55am On Feb 16, 2025 |
Jehovah's Organization. God's last minute blessing to mankind! ![]() |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 7:56am On Feb 16, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:false jw mad max Christians are all about the Lord Jesus Christ, you so called Jehovah's witnesses are all about yourselves false jw supporter:fraud jw, your lies and paranoia and blasphemy etc. etc. are not blessings to mankind oh dum as they come one Pro 16:5 Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD; you puffed up/proud in heart false jw's are an abomination to Jehovah |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31pm On Feb 16, 2025 |
They beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. They no longer lift up sword against their neighbors, Nor learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:4 ![]() |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Janosky: 8:16pm On Feb 16, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Omo ,As e dey sweet us nah so e dey pain Dem. Sifia pains all over dem triune deities devotees.. ![]()
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| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:28pm On Feb 16, 2025 |
Janosky:Ọmọ dem go cry tire o, because i go dey giv dem wotowoto! ![]() |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 10:58pm On Feb 16, 2025 |
Janosky: MaxInDHouse: Ọmọ dem go cry tire o, because i go dey giv dem wotowoto!ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool false jw's nosky and mad max just your usual puffed up pride and lies, of course: Pro 16:5 Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD; you puffed up/proud in heart false jw's are an abomination to Jehovah - fact, Jehovah doesn't lie like you people do false jw's: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 12:44am On Feb 17, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. For Rutherford the important dates were: "WE HAVE no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925." Watchtower 1922 May 15 p.147 Over time, Rutherford replaced 1874, such that his time line was as follows in pictures below. Other significant dates the Watchtower no longer refer to are; 1799 A.D. - The beginning of the Last Days. 539 A.D. - Thought to be the start of Catholic Papal rule and the start point of many prophetic interpretations. Of these above dates only 1914 is still considered significant, and even then, mostly for different reasons than originally prescribed. Though part of Watchtower lore for 60 years, most current Jehovah's Witnesses are unaware of their significance and that each one failed to eventuate as predicted. Each time the Watchtower has predicted an occurrence, it has not eventuated as foretold, a 100% failure rate. Does this inspire confidence in Watchtower interpretation? Jehovah's Witnesses promoted these falsehoods in the past, and continue to zealously advocate current doctrine as unfailing truths. jwfacts dot com |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by cornelboy(f): 3:51am On Feb 17, 2025 |
Kazeemakeem:So what's bad in that? |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:11am On Feb 17, 2025 |
Kazeemakeem:Just like God's people in ancient times! Deuteronomy 14:26 |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 3:16am On Mar 18, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. "Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874;…" Watchtower 1924 Jan 1 p.5) jwfacts..com |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:20am On Mar 18, 2025 |
Great thread! |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 11:04am On Mar 18, 2025 |
the so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians like the rest of us they are false prophets etc. "Millions now living will never die!" was exclaimed by Rutherford in a series of public lectures starting 1918. This was related to his prophecy that the earthly resurrection would commence 1925, with the return to life of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and became the focus of the preaching work in the following years. This article provides quotes regarding Rutherford's failed doctrine, and shows how in recent times Watchtower dishonestly presents this historical episode. The failure of Watchtower's 1914 predictions for the end of this system, and death of Russell in 1916, left his followers in disarray. After legalistic wrangling,1 Rutherford became Watchtower's next President. Credit must go to Rutherford for his ability to rebuild the religion. He was able to re-ignite urgency into the remaining followers by announcing through public discourse in February 1918 that "The World Has Ended - Millions Now Living May Never Die!" In March 1918, the title was changed to the more compelling “The World Has Ended — Millions Now Living Will Never Die!”2 In 1920, this message was released in the booklet, Millions Now Living Will Never Die! This was further expounded in 1921 in Rutherford's first book, The Harp of God, which carried on the cover the inscription, "Proof Conclusive that Millions now Living will never Die". In 1924, the children's book The Way to Paradise made a number of outlandish predictions for 1925 and life in the New System. jwfacts..com |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by StillDtruth: 11:16am On Mar 18, 2025 |
Now we now know it's an act for they are Satanists. And we have all seen how very badly their people here behave. Exactly how atheists always appear to be the most goodest people in the are, whereas they are the evilest. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:49am On Mar 19, 2025 |
"How Jehovah's Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us" “You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16 Cudos to all my brothers and sisters out there, you've done exactly as expected! ![]() |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:33pm On Mar 19, 2025 |
cornelboy:It's bad because his pastors said it is bad! ![]() |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 11:31pm On Mar 19, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max @ mat 5:14-16 Jesus is speaking of His apostles and disciples and all Christians who are doing his work, Jesus is not talking about you puffed up false jw braggarts who lie like hell, who blaspheme even the Holy Spirit, who are fearfully paranoid, who are false accusers, etc.etc. false jw's father is of course satan the devil: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47: 11:47pm On Mar 19, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost false jw mad max hypocrite, you false jw's believe all your org. tell you 2Ti_3:13 But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:51pm On Mar 20, 2025 |
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| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by epfa: 4:54am On Oct 14, 2025 |
Yikes, JWs are full of themselves in their own heads! Here is an example - an audio recording of a "back room" meeting where two elders are showing their true colors....there is a JW sister who was baptized and faithful for 20 years who reported abuse in the congregation by a COBE and was thrown under the bus...notice how the elders treat her and how they completely disregard Jesus' direction! Humble Disfellowshipped exJW "Apostate" in Back Room with Arrogant Watchtower Elders - Oct. 12, 2025 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnx69qom9IA |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:49am On Oct 14, 2025 |
epfa:What direction did Jesus give his followers regarding misconduct among fellow believers? ![]() |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by epfa: 5:40pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:He told us to stop associating with the pharisaical religious leaders who were lording it over the people, and to follow Jesus as our leader rather than the naughty "elders." |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:38pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
epfa:Read Matthew 18:15-17 Now explain!🙂 |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Truvelisback(m): 7:00pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
TemmyT002:Hypocrisy is their problem. Mind you, there is no perfect church in the world as you may have assumed. The love they show is for their members and those they are trying to win to their kingdom. |
| Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:18pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Truvelisback: APOPTOSIS: |
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