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Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 1:17pm On Oct 30, 2025
Ken4Christ:
What about the souls of the dead that cried to God for vengeance. How could they cry if the dead are unconscious?

Revelation 6:9-10
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the SOULS OF THEM THAT WERE SLAIN for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 AND THEY CRIED with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth
How was Abel's blood also crying from the ground?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 1:19pm On Oct 30, 2025
Ken4Christ:
The spirits of those who are born again are in heaven after death. When Jesus comes back, they will come back with Jesus and be reunited with their bodies.

So, its their spirit and soul that will be reunited with their bodies. They will resurrected with a brand new body.
Where do their souls go after death if their spirit is in heaven?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Ken4Christ: 10:26pm On Oct 31, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Where do their souls go after death if their spirit is in heaven?
The spirit and the soul go to heaven
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Ken4Christ: 10:28pm On Oct 31, 2025
Truthseeker10:
How was Abel's blood also crying from the ground?
I don't know. The scripture says so and I believe it.

At that time, there was no Abraham's bosom and they didn't have access to heaven either.
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:40am On Nov 01, 2025
Ken4Christ:
I don't know. The scripture says so and I believe it.

At that time, there was no Abraham's bosom and they didn't have access to heaven either.
The most sincere and honest hearted response you've ever given on this forum!
Flesh or blood can't cry so it's idiomatic expression meaning Abel's blood shouldn't have been spilled for no just course therefore the one who killed him will pay for his death.
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 6:36am On Nov 01, 2025
Ken4Christ:
I don't know. The scripture says so and I believe it.

At that time, there was no Abraham's bosom and they didn't have access to heaven either.
So when Abel died, his soul and spirit did not go to heaven?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 6:36am On Nov 01, 2025
Ken4Christ:
The spirit and the soul go to heaven
1)Quote a verse that teach the above.

2)Is soul and spirit the same thing?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by gohf(op): 10:23am On Nov 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
1)Quote a verse that teach the above.

2)Is soul and spirit the same thing?
the spirit belongs to God obviously goes back to him
Eccl.12.7 For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.

Meanwhile the soul is judged, if the soul belongs to God he goes to God. Ps.62.1 My soul finds rest in God alone; my salvation comes from him.
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by gohf(op): 10:25am On Nov 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
How was Abel's blood also crying from the ground?
the life of a being is in its blood, that goes to show that even though Cain physically killed Abel's body, Abel was still alive and speaking, so Cain sin/evil wasn't covered.

And that's why God is the God of the living not the dead even though Abraham and co have departed this world/earth.
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by gohf(op): 10:29am On Nov 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Where do their souls go after death if their spirit is in heaven?
a soul seperated from God's spirit is dead na, so it would be wise for souls to follow God's spirit and live
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 12:36pm On Nov 02, 2025
gohf:
a soul seperated from God's spirit is dead na, so it would be wise for souls to follow God's spirit and live
What is a soul and what is a spirit.
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 12:40pm On Nov 02, 2025
gohf:
the life of a being is in its blood, that goes to show that even though Cain physically killed Abel's body, Abel was still alive and speaking, so Cain sin/evil wasn't covered.

And that's why God is the God of the living not the dead even though Abraham and co have departed this world/earth.
So where is Abel's blood today and is Abel still alive and speaking from his blood?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by gohf(op): 12:43pm On Nov 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So where is Abel's blood today and is Abel still alive and speaking fron his blood?
your questions show your level of reasoning, are you sure everything is okay?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 12:43pm On Nov 02, 2025
gohf:
the spirit belongs to God obviously goes back to him
Eccl.12.7 For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.

Meanwhile the soul is judged, if the soul belongs to God he goes to God. Ps.62.1 My soul finds rest in God alone; my salvation comes from him.
So which location does the soul go to before being Judged after death?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 12:44pm On Nov 02, 2025
gohf:
your questions show your level of reasoning, are you sure everything is okay?
You claim Abel was still alive and speaking in his blood when he was killed. So where is Abel's blood today and is he still alive and speaking in his blood?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by gohf(op): 1:41pm On Nov 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
You claim Abel was still alive and speaking in his blood when he was killed. So where is Abel's blood today and is he still alive and speaking in his blood?
I am pretty sure this is what you read
"the life of a being is in its blood, that goes to show that even though Cain physically killed Abel's body, Abel was still alive and speaking, so Cain sin/evil wasn't covered."

Like I asked you, are you sure everything is okay?
I pray you receive wisdom from God sha
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 6:35pm On Nov 02, 2025
gohf:
I am pretty sure this is what you read
"the life of a being is in its blood, that goes to show that even though Cain physically killed Abel's body, Abel was still alive and speaking, so Cain sin/evil wasn't covered."

Like I asked you, are you sure everything is okay?
I pray you receive wisdom from God sha
So if Abel was alive and speaking in his blood, where is the blood today, and is he still alive and speaking in his blood?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Janosky: 10:55pm On Nov 02, 2025
Emusan:
@color-red shows how shameless you are.

So you want me to be forcefully agreed with NET interpretation of Prov 8 and the same time disagree with NET interpretation of Col 1:15.

This is very pathetic and double standard in nature.


Anyway, do I surprise? No! because I know that is how you keep jumping around when the bone hooks you in the neck.

NET has finally exposed you with your own hand.
Oga, use what God gave you to see that Proverbs 8:22-30 NET Bible provided evidence is the bone that hooks the neck of your claim & hooks the neck of NET Bible claim about Colossians 1:15-16.

Emusan,Use the screenshot to help yourself.
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Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Ken4Christ: 11:26pm On Nov 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
1)Quote a verse that teach the above.

2)Is soul and spirit the same thing?
Place an order for my book, The Total Man. It will explain it to you
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Truthseeker10: 6:02am On Nov 03, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Place an order for my book, The Total Man. It will explain it to you
🤣🤣🤣....na wa....so if we don't read your book, we won't know where the bible teaches that both soul and spirit goes to heaven?
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Emusan(m): 8:57am On Nov 03, 2025
Janosky:
Oga, use what God gave you to see that Proverbs 8:22-30 NET Bible provided evidence is the bone that hooks the neck of your claim & hooks the neck of NET Bible claim about Colossians 1:15-16.

Emusan,Use the screenshot to help yourself.
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I this case NET BIBLE cancelled the same NET BIBLE EVIDENCE.

Wahooooo what a sound logic of an hypocrite!

This just reinforced my point that you agreed with NET Bible whenever it suits your agenda.

The screenshot from NET Bible is there as well

Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:27pm On Nov 03, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣....na wa....so if we don't read your book, we won't know where the bible teaches that both soul and spirit goes to heaven?
Someone who doesn't know anything has published a book to teach others due to the love of money! Matthew 15:14 😂
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Janosky: 5:47am On Nov 04, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Place an order for my book, The Total Man. It will explain it to you
Oga, by your comments,you have edited 1st Peter 3:18 in your Bible.

Jesus Christ resurrection have proven your claim is fiction.
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Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:57am On Nov 04, 2025
Janosky:
Oga, by your comments,you have edited 1st Peter 3:18 in your Bible.
Jesus Christ resurrection have proven your claim is fiction. grin grin grin
Sometimes this funny Churchians thinks once they carry Bible up and down like Pharisees they can brainwash everyone with their fabricated lies forgetting the Bible is now available for everyone to pick up and read!🙂
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Janosky:
Emusan:
I this case NET BIBLE cancelled the same NET BIBLE EVIDENCE.

Wahooooo what a sound logic of an hypocrite!

This just reinforced my point that you agreed with NET Bible whenever it suits your agenda.

The screenshot from NET Bible is there as well


Was Jesus Christ appointed Firstborn?
No

@Proverbs 8:22 ,@ Rev 3:14,@Colossians 1:15, Jesus ("the Wisdom" created being @ Prov 8:22) is the beginning of the creation by God".
@Rev 3:14,Jesus said so in agreement with Prov 8:22 & Colossians 1:15.
The word Arkhe beginning @ Proverbs 8:22 is Start ,NOT Originator, NOT Source, NOT Ruler.


Jesus is firstborn as the beginning of the Creation by God.

This is where NET Bible got it wrong-Jesus was not APPOINTED firstborn.
Jesus is not Preeminent by appointment.

Likewise,Reuben is not Preeminent by appointment.
King David was preeminent by appointment.
Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Emusan(m): 8:43am On Nov 04, 2025
Janosky:
This is where NET Bible got it wrong
This is what I need.

You cancelled your own EVIDENCE.

NET BIBLE got it wrong.

Na you bring evidence na you still discarded the same evidence

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Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Janosky: 9:58pm On Nov 04, 2025
Emusan:
This is what I need.

You cancelled your own EVIDENCE.


NET BIBLE got it wrong.

Na you bring evidence na you still discarded the same evidence
Oga , read the screenshot and reason like an adult.

Emusan, LIE too much making false claims..
Oga , read the screenshot and reason with what God gave you.
@ Colossians 1:15,Jesus is the Firstborn by creation of God.
@ Colossians 1:15,Jesus was NOT APPOINTED Firstborn.

@ Psalms 89:27,David was APPOINTED Firstborn not by birth/creation.
NET Bible lied to you @ Colossians 1:15.
Oga,continue WAILING.

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Re: God Created Jesus To Be His Exact Image by Emusan(m): 11:31am On Nov 05, 2025
Janosky:
Oga , read the screenshot and reason like an adult.

Emusan, LIE too much making false claims..
Oga , read the screenshot and reason with what God gave you.
@ Colossians 1:15,Jesus is the Firstborn by creation of God.
@ Colossians 1:15,Jesus was NOT APPOINTED Firstborn.

@ Psalms 89:27,David was APPOINTED Firstborn not by birth/creation.
NET Bible lied to you @ Colossians 1:15.
Oga,continue WAILING.

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We're talking about NET Bible evidence here.

NET Bible evidence cancelled the same NET Bible evidence.

NET Bible lied to me or you rejected TRUTH from the same NET Bible
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