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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 1:55pm On Nov 05, 2025
basilico:
More on Hillary plan. See how your fact checkers and media talking heads lies. Brennan is a paid analyst on MSNBC ,he continues to push the Russia hoax.

AP News Fact Check (Sep 29, 2020) “The letter in no way proves it was ‘Hillary’s plan’ to look into ties between Trump associates and Russian officials... American intelligence officials do not know whether this claim is accurate, an exaggeration, or a lie.”

Rachel Maddow on MSNBC (Sep 29, 2020) “It also is a reminder that Donald Trump knows that the Russians helped him win in 2016 and that is almost the biggest reason he wants to go back to it time and time again, because he can’t come to grips with the fact that there will always be an air of illegitimacy around the 2016 campaign.”

Brennan on CNN (Oct 6, 2020) “This is selective declassification that is designed to advance the political interests of Donald Trump and Republicans who are aligned with him.”
(Accuses declassification of the "plan" docs as politicized, implying the Russia intel is unreliable.)

John Brennan on MSNBC (Aug 1, 2025, re: declassified Durham annex) “The last couple of weeks, the Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe have been putting out very misleading and inaccurate reports about what was included in that intelligence community assessment.”


I could fill nairaland with quotes from media denying what is in Comeys own handwriting.
It doesn't take much sense to determine these talking media heads should be interrogated to reveal what they knew, who was coordinating their talking points , and their role in a treasonous seditious conspiracy to take down a duly elected president.
Dude I asked you a simple question your gish gallop doesn't answer the question and will not turn it aside.

Again: On what page in your link is the email from reinholdniebuhr7@gmail.com listed?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:27pm On Nov 05, 2025
IjeBos:
Rumdeuter: Everyone's happy with Trump.

Reality:
These are states that didnt vote Trump in 2024. Anyone with elementary knowledge of politics know this
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:30pm On Nov 05, 2025
bayelsaowei:
the midterms would be a shocker for them too.. they should keep supporting anti people policies abd treating americans like non humans.

Americans are tired.. the Supreme court should continue in their non-sense. And the republican Congress should continue licking Trumps legs and worshipping him instead of fighting for the american people..just take a look at what they are doing with SNAP whilst blaming democrats solely for a government shutdown. Who does that?

They think normal humans aren't watching?
To open govt needs 60 votes, Republicans are just 54. All 54 voted to open govt. How do they manufacture the additional 6 needed to open govt

Dem wanted to shut govt t help them in this election and they have done that to help themselves. Now that they have won the eections can they now open govt to stop American suffering
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 2:37pm On Nov 05, 2025
raumdeuter:
To open govt needs 60 votes, Republicans are just 54. All 54 voted to open govt. How do they manufacture the additional 6 needed to open govt

Dem wanted to shut govt t help them in this election and they have done that to help themselves. Now that they have won the eections can they now open govt to stop American suffering
The additional 6 will come from open and sincere negotiation with the Democratic stakeholders..

Abi no be so?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:50pm On Nov 05, 2025
bayelsaowei:
The additional 6 will come from open and sincere negotiation with the Democratic stakeholders..

Abi no be so?
Why do Democrats need these to open the govt and stop the suffering of people. They have voted for this same CR 13 times in the past

Negotiations can be done after govt is open. That was what every Democrat from Obama Schumer Biden and Jeffries told us in the past
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:12pm On Nov 05, 2025
bayelsaowei:
hungry wants to pluck everybody’s eyes. Hunger is what will drive Americans to hold Trump and his insane admin accountable.
I worry that the hunger was not painful and deep enough to create longlasting memory.

Do not estimate the resolve of people who hate others more than they love themselves.

In time, they will deny everything that happened per MAGA doctrine, and they will resurface.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:39pm On Nov 05, 2025
LordReed:
Dude I asked you a simple question your gish gallop doesn't answer the question and will not turn it aside.

Again: On what page in your link is the email from reinholdniebuhr7@gmail.com listed?
Ihttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136.138.8.pdf
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:05pm On Nov 05, 2025
Obrigardo:
They've known now that the tyrant predator is a mad man. In the midst of a shutdown he is hosting barely naked strippers to party at maralago. Americans see that and voters are turning their heads including a growing set of republicans and maga.
This is what he’s doing with his presidency and tax payer money.

Shame on all his supporters. I’ll never let them live it down that this is who they called a man of God. Heaping pile of shame on all of their hypocritical heads

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:07pm On Nov 05, 2025
raumdeuter:
Why do Democrats need these to open the govt and stop the suffering of people. They have voted for this same CR 13 times in the past

Negotiations can be done after govt is open. That was what every Democrat from Obama Schumer Biden and Jeffries told us in the past
does the stubborn go-at Trump look and sound like someone that can be reasoned with?

Does he look normal to you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 4:17pm On Nov 05, 2025
raumdeuter:
These are states that didnt vote Trump in 2024. Anyone with elementary knowledge of politics know this
I wonder o oo. All the states are super deep blue states that hates Trump and the GOP a lot! In one Fox News evaluation of the events, that everyone is interested in what the GOP can pull out of this is a huge plus for the GOP.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDMOcoOchpk
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:25pm On Nov 05, 2025
Mamdani victory speech. War on landlords , the volume is up Mr Trump. The system that built you up and your billionaire friends will be crushed .
New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and, as of tonight, led by an immigrant. Hear me, President Trump: when I say this, to get to any of us, you will have to get through all of us.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:29pm On Nov 05, 2025
raumdeuter:
These are states that didnt vote Trump in 2024. Anyone with elementary knowledge of politics know this
Always propaganda and talking points.

Democrats have flipped two seats on the Georgia Public Service Commission in what were seen as a key bellwether ahead of the 2026 midterms, according to Decision Desk HQ.

Democratic candidates Alicia Johnson and Peter Hubbard, who ran for Georgia Public Service commissioner in Districts 2 and 3, respectively, have defeated GOP incumbents Tim Echols and Fitz Johnson.

The Tuesday election marks the first time since 2000 that a Democrat has won a Public Service Commission race, according to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:32pm On Nov 05, 2025
All this except that last year he had “help” like he openly admits too.
This is why I find it difficult to respect the "logic" or "opinions" of Donald Trump supporters.

In 2016 — an election he won — he still claimed there was "widespread voter fraud" because he lost the popular vote.

In 2020, despite being president at the time, he lost to Joe Biden and again claimed there was "widespread voter fraud," even though two of the states where Trump made those claims — Georgia and Arizona — were controlled by Republicans.

So, a quick recap: in an election he won, he still claimed "fraud" because he didn’t win the popular vote. Then, in 2020, as president, he lost and again claimed "fraud," even though two of the key states that helped Biden win were run by Republicans — his own party.

Now, in 2024, he was setting the stage to — once again — claim that the "election was rigged" if he lost. It wasn’t until the trend started to shift toward the likelihood of his victory that day when Trump’s lies about "massive voter fraud" suddenly went silent.

Keep in mind, during the 2024 election, a Democrat, Joe Biden, was president. So if there were ever going to be a year when Democrats rigged an election, it would’ve been the one where they held the presidency.

Except Trump won. And because he won both the Electoral College and the popular vote, you won’t hear him say a single thing about the legitimacy of the vote.

Now, as we head toward the 2026 midterms — with polls showing a very good chance that Democrats could reclaim the House and possibly even the Senate — once again, Trump is out there claiming there will be "massive voter fraud" as Democrats try to "rig the election."

Even though Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. Somehow, despite all of that, Democrats are still supposedly planning to "rig the election" despite having no power in our government — yet somehow didn’t "rig it" last year, which is how he became president.

If that sounds stupid, it should — because it is.

You don’t need to be Sherlock Holmes to identify the clear pattern: Donald Trump claims that an election is "rigged" or "stolen" based solely on whether the results are favorable or unfavorable for him.

For a decade, he’s whined, bitched, moaned, and cried about "massive voter fraud," despite the fact that:

1. He won the 2016 election.

2. Republicans maintained control of both the Senate and the House in the 115th United States Congress.

3. They kept power in the Senate in the 116th United States Congress.

4. Reclaimed the House during Biden’s presidency in the 118th United States Congress.

5. Won the 2024 election and currently have complete control of both the House and Senate in the 119th United States Congress.

In other words, since the 2016 election, Republicans have:

- Won 2 out of the last 3 presidential elections.

- Controlled at least one chamber of Congress for all but two years.

Yet that doesn’t stop Donald Trump from claiming that any election that doesn’t go his way is "totally rigged by the Democrats."

Well, geniuses — if Democrats are so powerful and so great at rigging elections, then why the f*ck has Trump won 2 out of the last 3 presidential elections while the GOP has held at least one chamber of Congress for all but two years over the past decade?

Please, logically explain that.

Because I can tell you this much: if Democrats were as nefarious and skilled at "rigging elections" as Donald Trump constantly whines about, there’s no way in hell he’d be president right now with Republicans in full control of Congress.

Yet that’s exactly the reality.

And now, here he is again, setting the table to claim the 2026 midterms are going to be "totally rigged" if the results don’t go his way — even though he’s president and the GOP controls all of Congress.

You can’t make up this level of stupidity.

This is why I say MAGA folks need to stop looking at Democrats negatively for questioning their intelligence — because it’s not us who treats them like idiots, it’s Donald Trump.

No person who truly respects the intelligence of their supporters could say such asinine, illogical things — unless they were counting on their supporters’ ignorance to ensure they never question or doubt anything he says.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 4:32pm On Nov 05, 2025
basilico:
Mamdani victory speech. War on landlords , the volume is up Mr Trump. The system that built you up and your billionaire friends will be crushed .
New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and, as of tonight, led by an immigrant. Hear me, President Trump: when I say this, to get to any of us, you will have to get through all of us.
He's just a loud mouth spewing gibberish. Let's see how things work out for his socialist policies - in a few months.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:34pm On Nov 05, 2025
Lionessza6:
Like I said earlier . I am not surprised you don't get any of it. And I apologize for hurting your feelings somehow.

And Goodluck Sir.
When I initially read your posts I thought you has some interesting things to say.
Then you decided to both side the two parties.
In 2025 if anyone thinks the two parties are equal, they are living under a rock or lack any historical understanding.

But even so, what bothered me was the dismissive attitude of the civil rights fight Dems and those in northern states have fought.
Do you think those people who fought a civil war to keep slavery, fought so black people couldn't sit at the same lunch counter as whites and fought to be able to lynch black boys for looking at white woman are the same as those who fought against it?
Is there any moral equivalence in those two sides?

Your analysis is Perfunctory.
As you're trying to pass an incoherent, ill-thought-out analysis without any historical context as some deep thought.

Note: Since the parties were realigned, I speak of the Dems as the people in the coalitions and non-southern states that now make up the party that have historically been on the right side of the civil rights issue.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 4:38pm On Nov 05, 2025
nateevs:
I worry that the hunger was not painful and deep enough to create longlasting memory.

Do not estimate the resolve of people who hate others more than they love themselves.

In time, they will deny everything that happened per MAGA doctrine, and they will resurface.
Trump has been president for less than a year - and people think he will correct (or perform a miracle) to suddenly start making things work for them, without him taking some hurtful corrective measures? You guys should think a bit o.

Auto pen Biden was president for four years - life was bad for all Americans throughout his time in office - heck, that's even one key reason Trump was elected back to office! Now, all blames are on Trump? Na wa o.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:39pm On Nov 05, 2025
ono:
Trump has been president for less than a year - and people think he will correct (or perform a miracle) to suddenly start making things work for them, without him taking some hurtful corrective measures? You guys should think a bit o.

Auto pen Biden was president for four years - life has been bad ever since. Now, all blames are on Trump? Na wa o.
"I will fix it on day one."
Isn't that what Trump ran on?

It's odd, you now want to give Trump time to use hurtful corrective measures but wouldn't give Biden the same after coming out of a Global Pandemic where Trump trashed the Economy.

You're not the serious one.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 4:41pm On Nov 05, 2025
IjeBos:
"I will fix it on day one."
Isn't that what Trump ran on?

It's odd, you now want to give Trump time to use hurtful corrective measures but wouldn't give Biden the same after coming out of a Global Pandemic.
And - after all these years, you don't know how Trump does his stuff? His body language etc?

It's obvious your hatred of Trump made you not know how the man operates.

If you want to know how the guy works, take a look at how he carried out the Iran bombing operations.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 4:47pm On Nov 05, 2025
Good Morning America

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:06pm On Nov 05, 2025
ono:
If you want to know how the guy works, take a look at how he carried out the Iran bombing operations.
I doubt it's intelligent to discard how dump has 'worked' all his life and only focus on how he incompetently "carried out the Iran bombing operations".

That would be like disregarding all your Nairaland posts and only focusing on this single one post.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:06pm On Nov 05, 2025
ono:
He's just a loud mouth spewing gibberish. Let's see how things work out for his socialist policies - in a few months.
He is the face of the democrats. They can't turn away from the communism tag, having elected him.
Funny how they counted all votes within hours yet in other elections they take days...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 5:10pm On Nov 05, 2025
budaatum:
I doubt it's intelligent to discard how dump has 'worked' all his life and only focus on how he incompetently "carried out the Iran bombing operations".

That would be like disregarding all your Nairaland posts and only focusing on this single one post.
Well, he's done a lot of other good stuff buda. Your hatred of him won't let you see them. Sad.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 5:11pm On Nov 05, 2025
basilico:
Ihttps://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136.138.8.pdf
You are just a purveyor of fake news. You claimed that a filing was made containing certain documents to verify it now you a chopping mouth. When will you change?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:22pm On Nov 05, 2025
ono:
Well, he's done a lot of other good stuff buda. Your hatred of him won't let you see them. Sad.
It's my hatred of what he does actually, but your love for him will not let you see that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:30pm On Nov 05, 2025
bayelsaowei:
does the stubborn go-at Trump look and sound like someone that can be reasoned with?

Does he look normal to you?
You dont need Trump to vote to keep the govt open like they did 13 times, They open the govt and negotiate with their fellow lawmakers and stop making Americans suffer
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:31pm On Nov 05, 2025
IjeBos:
Always propaganda and talking points.
Georgia Public sector? what is that? Who is running there? Georgia is purple and has 2 Democrat senators, so how is it a surprise that Blue won in Georgia
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:17pm On Nov 05, 2025
raumdeuter:
You dont need Trump to vote to keep the govt open like they did 13 times, They open the govt and negotiate with their fellow lawmakers and stop making Americans suffer
Except that these current "lawmakers" are beholden to dump, and should not be trusted one tiny bit because they'd just all taco as soon as he tells them to.

But seriously! Do you think this your lame argument would work on us? There's just been an election, and if the Republicans had won anywhere, you'd be here claiming Democrats are reaping blow out from the shut down that's making Americans suffer.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:19pm On Nov 05, 2025
LordReed:
You are just a purveyor of fake news. You claimed that a filing was made containing certain documents to verify it now you a chopping mouth. When will you change?
I think he might change when no one reads his crap my Lord, though I'm not holding my breath.

Thankfully, however, I can easily skip past his posts.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 6:21pm On Nov 05, 2025
budaatum:
I think he might change when no one reads his crap my Lord, though I'm not holding my breath.

Thankfully, however, I can easily skip past his posts.
It's too bad and sad that shamelessness is now a crown people wear proudly.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:24pm On Nov 05, 2025
LordReed:
It's too bad and sad that shamelessness is now a crown people wear proudly.
Dump wears that crown shamelessly, my Lord.
It even got him back into the White House.

So, thanks for enabling me to use the following, which I've been dying to use. grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 7:11pm On Nov 05, 2025
basilico:
Mamdani victory speech. War on landlords , the volume is up Mr Trump. The system that built you up and your billionaire friends will be crushed .
New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and, as of tonight, led by an immigrant. Hear me, President Trump: when I say this, to get to any of us, you will have to get through all of us.
Well, think of it - NY is becoming too expensive! Imagine living and working in NY and you still can't afford basics - such as rent and feeding - hope they come up with ways to alleviate the high cost of everything.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 7:13pm On Nov 05, 2025
budaatum:
Dump wears that crown shamelessly, my Lord.
It even got him back into the White House.

So, thanks for enabling me to use the following, which I've been dying to use. grin
Lol, the one that caught me was his endorsement of Cuomo shocked
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