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This country no balance

This statistic is the absolute truth

Chachalogo:
➜I cannot deny the salient point you raised in your 2nd paragraph. It is very obvious that the almajeris are not well fed, and it has become a major reason why they are easily recruited to flag off crisis.

The issue with feeding has always been there. I grew up in the 70s/80s, and the Almajiris in Kano, Lagos, and also in Kwara back then were also mostly underfed. They were always a pitiful sight to behold when out and about. And that question has always been, why do these parents think or accept that it is OK for them not to take full responsibility for their children?

You will never find the children of rich Northerners undergoing the same traumatic experiences, yet it is normalized behavior among Northern muslims to have the children of the poor endure such a humiliating existence from an early age in some attempt to strip them of desires and dreams bigger than that which they were born into. It seems more like a system designed to mentally subdue these children from as early as age 2.

Kobojunkie:
There are different reasons why parents choose to do this. I was sent to a boarding school at age 11 myself, because I wanted to have the experience. My parents sent me there while maintaining full responsibility for me and my developmental education, feeding, housing, etc. And my being at the boarding school during the school term was a temporary arrangement — approximately 8 months out of each year(in the absence of sickness-related breaks.

2. Sending children to boarding schools is not the issue here. Stop trying so hard to ignore the real issue, which is the presence of parents in the lives of children, no matter where they are.

> Same way the parents of those almajeris had their reasons for sending them for almajeranchi.
> Same way you returned home during holidays, those almajeris do visit home at set times. And their parents too do visit.
> Same way you finally returned home after your O'level, those almajeris do return home, except for those whose will choose to stay back and start up something for themselves. I knew an almajeri in my area back in the days in Kano. He didn't return home. He began the of business firewood untill he became very established. He later married a neighbour of ours.
> Lastly, I'm not trying hard to ignore the real issue. I have my reservation against the almajeri system and that is the fact that the parents ain't doing their utmost in fending for their children. I condemn their actions.

grandstar:
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How much is the child support you're talking about?

You have been watching too much TV.

And you think 100k is too small for an average Nigerian girl Seems you’re abroad.

Kobojunkie:
The issue with feeding has always been there. I grew up in the 70s/80s, and the Almajiris in Kano, Lagos, and also in Kwara back then were also mostly underfed. They were always a pitiful sight to behold when out and about. And that question has always been, why do these parents think or accept that it is OK for them not to take full responsibility for their children?

You will never find the children of rich Northerners undergoing the same traumatic experiences, yet it is normalized behavior among Northern muslims to have the children of the poor endure such a humiliating existence from an early age in some attempt to strip them of desires and dreams bigger than that which they were born into. It seems more like a system designed to mentally subdue these children from as early as age 2.

It is disheartening indeed.

Chachalogo:
> Same way the parents of those almajeris had their reasons for sending them for almajeranchi.
> Same way you returned home during holidays, those almajeris do visit home at set times. And their parents too do visit.
> Same way you finally returned home after your O'level, those almajeris do return home, except for those whose will choose to stay back and start up something for themselves. I knew an almajeri in my area back in the days in Kano. He didn't return home. He began the of business firewood untill he became very established. He later married a neighbour of ours.
> Lastly, I'm not trying hard to ignore the real issue. I have my reservation against the almajeri system and that is the fact that the parents ain't doing their utmost in fending for their children. I condemn their actions.

1. There is nothing same about the reasons why the Almajiri parents and my parents, you know why?
➜False! I was 11 and old enough to give my consent to being sent off to a boarding school; a 2-6-year-old child does not know enough about what boarding school is to give the same sort of consent that I did. A 2-6-year-old does not have enough in their brains to fully consent to having the bulk of the responsibility for their livelihood placed solely on their backs, something the Almajiri system forces on these young ones. A 2-6-year-old does not have the know-how to realize and understand how utterly traumatizing this world really is; that even their very parents can be responsible for the bulk of the trauma and misery that is their life, something that is 99% the case with children thrown into the Almajiri system.
➜Recall that I mentioned that my feeding, my housing, my developmental/healthcare needs, my pocket money, everything was 100% funded by my parents. Something Almajiris cannot speak of.
In essence, what I am trying to get you to see here is that there was really no final return since I never ceased, at any point during that entire training period, to be the full-time responsibility of my parents. My parents were involved in all regular aspects of my life and training throughout those years. This is something that is missing from the lives of the Almajiris.
➜ I returned home every holiday, and many times I was sick from school. Again, I spent at least 4 months of each year at home— in a year, I returned home at least 8 times. My parents visited me at school approximately 4 times out of each school year, and during special programs with provisions and money. I was in constant communication with them— via letters and phone — throughout my time away, so they were actively involved in my life throughout that time that my completion of my education at that particular academy was not really a final returning home, but merely a transition from one home to another.

There is no reasonable way in the world you can compare the regular boarding school treatment a non-Almajiri child gets with the Almajiri system of things.

2. Again, having reservations does not exclude you from making realistic comparisons at all points, something you continue to avoid doing even after my pointing out severally times that you are still not doing that.

Kobojunkie:
Where do the 10s of millions of Almajiris come from then? Are you telling us that all those kids live daily with their parents?

Don't mind the m"umu statistians

SpencerForbes:
And you think 100k is too small for an average Nigerian girl Seems you’re abroad.

Is that the average they collect? Is it enforceable?

grandstar:
Is that the average they collect? Is it enforceable?

The question you should be asking is how many young Nigerian girls can earn above 70k without the help of a man or can even raise up to 100k without the help of a man? Then you’ll understand— calculate it with the cost of living in Lagos state and see how important 70k is to a south western girl.

Majority of this girls if they’re given the opportunity to get a man that can be paying them up to that amount without any commitment— while giving them the privilege of still ‘enjoying’ their lives, they’ll gladly accept.

Let’s imagine you’re a rich baby daddy, do you think 100k is too small for your child

If you’re a rich dude in Lagos, you’re a potential baby daddy.

This figures are rigged. How can people who send their children to the street in the name of alamajiri be the ones living with their their children?

parags:
Personally I think toxic feminism and social media made things worse for SW women . Culturally the women are empowered . Western agenda made them seek more power thus becoming unbearable . A LOT of yoruba men are not marrying yoruba girls. I know because most of my friends are not married to yoruba women. They would rather marry igbo or northern girls because they have more cultural ideals that favour marriages . Even the igbo women and other trips love yoruba men because our culture respects women alot

A culture that literally denies a woman the right to inherit both her father's and her marital communal wealth is one that respects women? What a joke!

Kobojunkie:
Where do the 10s of millions of Almajiris come from then? Are you telling us that all those kids live daily with their parents?

You talk about the spec in someone else's eye while ignoring the log in your eyes.

Area boys full under bridge right under your nose but you will only see Almajiris from other r

stuffs2002:
➜You talk about the spec in someone else's eye while ignoring the log in your eyes.
➜ Area boys full under bridge right under your nose but you will only see Almajiris from other r

. This discussion is literally about the inaccuracy of claims made in the OP, and not about the specs in anyone's eyes, including mine.

2. Area boys in much of southern Nigeria — east and west—are mostly runaway children, orphans, and abandoned children. How does any of that compare to the Almajiri system? As you are attempting to draw a parallel between the two groups, are you insinuating that you admit that Almajiris are mostly also runaways, orphans, and abandoned children as well?

Richtaiwo:
So many failed marriages anc childbirth out of wedlock account for low percentage.

And the Al Majiri scourge doesn't have a say in the Northern percentage?

olaric:
Laughable data; no bases whatsoever to be throwing about stats without evidence of how it was sourced.

How many of them Statisense data have you questioned it's source or this doesn't fit your agenda?

Niwdog:
those almajiris go back to their parents after begging

So are they counted as living with the parents whilst they travel from Sokoto to Kano to go and beg,abi seek knowledge?

olaric:
Laughable data; no bases whatsoever to be throwing about stats without evidence of how it was sourced.

If you have questions with how it was sourced, go to the origin and ask your questions. Nairaland is is the place for that because you wouldn't get answers here so stop being lazy.

kiddaz:
Well, that they are in Yoruba land doesn't make them Yoruba. The stats is about region and not based on ethnicity or tribe.

Lols,so in other words there's something about the SW that turn perfectly normal people into single parenthood?

Chachalogo:
Sir, yes. Almajeris live with their parents/family.
Almajeranchi is synonymous with the boarding school system where parents send their children to go learn far away from home, and then return during holidays. Almajeris do go home at set times to visit their families. I know this because I grew up in Kano and I had many of them as playmates.

So whilst they are shipped from Sokoto to Kano to go and be Al Majiri are they being counted as living with the parents?

First time witnessing the nonsensical data churned out by these sat-clowns. 70% of kids in the north west and east live in almajiri /quranic schools. The rest 30% are non Muslims and 99% living with their parents/close relative.

mencer:
While polygamy is more acceptable in the North.. it's not down south....

While baby mama is more acceptable in the South.. it's not down North....

Almunjid:
➜While baby mama is more acceptable in the South.. it's not down North....

It may not be acceptable in the North, but that does not mean what is obtainable in the North is any more wholesome or healthier.

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Kobojunkie:
It may not be acceptable in the North, but that does not mean what is obtainable in the North is any more wholesome or healthier.

Polygamy may not be acceptable in the South, but that does not mean what is obtainable in the South is any more wholesome or healthier.

Almunjid:
➜Polygamy may not be acceptable in the South, but that does not mean what is obtainable in the South is any more wholesome or healthier.

Polygamy does not, or should I say, has not solved any tangible problems in society, particularly where it applies to children(the subject of this thread), even up in the North. So, again, I ask, what does it matter that single motherhood may not be acceptable in the North, but that does not mean what is obtainable in the North is any more wholesome or healthier.

Kobojunkie:
Polygamy does not, or should I say, has not solved any tangible problems in society, particularly where it applies to children(the subject of this thread), even up in the North. So, again, I ask, what does it matter that single motherhood may not be acceptable in the North, but that does not mean what is obtainable in the North is any more wholesome or healthier.

Baby Mama does not, or should I say, has not solved any tangible problems in society, particularly where it applies to children (the subject of this thread), even up in the South. So, again, I ask, what does it matter that polygamy may not be acceptable in the South, but that does not mean what is obtainable in the South is any more wholesome or healthier.

Almunjid:
➜Baby Mama does not, or should I say, has not solved any tangible problems in society, particularly where it applies to children (the subject of this thread), even up in the South. \
➜So, again, I ask, what does it matter that polygamy may not be acceptable in the South, but that does not mean what is obtainable in the South is any more wholesome or healthier.

Babymama-ism is a symptom of a problem in the society, not a solution. However, earlier, you had suggested polygamy as some sort of solution to a problem in society, when in reality it had not been shown to, in fact, solve any tangible problem in any society to date.

2. Again, it matters primarily because you suggested polygamy as though a solution to a tangible problem in society when, to date, it has never presented itself as a reasonable solution to any problem; Northern Nigeria is in no way or shape better than Southern Nigeria because of the prevalence of polygamy up there, so why mention it at all?

Kobojunkie:
Babymama-ism is a symptom of a problem in the society, not a solution. However, earlier, you had suggested polygamy as some sort of solution to a problem in society, when in reality it had not been shown to, in fact, solve any tangible problem in any society to date.

2. Again, it matters primarily because you suggested polygamy as though a solution to a tangible problem in society when, to date, it has never presented itself as a reasonable solution to any problem; Northern Nigeria is in no way or shape better than Southern Nigeria because of the prevalence of polygamy up there, so why mention it at all?

Lol, nice one. I can't copy this without contradicting myself. Honestly, both polygamy and the “baby mama” phenomenon are viewed as problems by many. Polygamy—an aspect of our culture that women may find difficult to accept—and baby mama culture, which is influenced by Western lifestyles, both have their drawbacks. However, if we are being truly honest, polygamy, despite its challenges, is still preferable to the baby mama trend.

In polygamous marriages, especially within Islam, a man is obligated to treat all his wives equally, providing for their food, clothing, shelter, and other needs. Anyone unable to maintain this fairness is not permitted to marry more than one wife. Through this equality in Islamic polygamy, every child receives adequate time, attention, care, and support from their father, which helps prevent the psychological harm often associated with single parenting.

In contrast, the baby mama lifestyle is fundamentally unfair to the child involved. The father tends to focus his resources, attention, and emotional support on his wife and her children, while neglecting the child from another relationship. Sending money (child support) cannot substitute for active parenting. Visiting occasionally is not proper upbringing. Baby mama culture benefits one party—the wife or current girlfriend—while causing hardship to the baby mama and her child. The mother is left to juggle both roles, inevitably falling short, just as the saying goes: “Jack of all trades, master of none.” One hand alone cannot accomplish what requires two.

When Islam was introduced, Arabs practiced polygamy with numerous wives—sometimes more than ten—and many children. Islam established a limit (four wives), setting clear guidelines for equal treatment and sharing of resources, which can be difficult even with just four wives. A man must divide his time and resources equally, ensuring that all wives are treated fairly, with no favoritism.

I understand you are not an advocate of polygamy, but if we are honest, in choosing the lesser evil, polygamy is a better option. It does have disadvantages, but it is not as harmful as the baby mama lifestyle, which is rapidly undermining our society. If things continue this way, women may soon be searching in vain for polygamous marriages, as the institution of marriage itself teeters on the brink of extinction—mainly due to the baby mama trend and similar Western influences. Despite being practiced for thousands of years in Africa, polygamy did not destroy our society or families as rapidly as these new lifestyles are doing.


Peace!

blacksam01:
The more the education of women, the higher the divorce rate

To extent, this is true. But there are cultural and religious factors at play too. The north has the highest divorce rates, but women in the south are highly educated than their northern counterparts.

Any society with a high single parenthood, especially single mothers, is going to be doomed, sooner or later. Examples abound across the world. I am impressed by the position of the southeast, and this is not just because I am Igbo, but because I have been too critical of the high rate of unmarried women, especially educated ones. Although I look forward to a study to know which region and specifically which ethnic group has the highest percentage of single women (>30 years).