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How many times should I say no before she tempts me with sex?

Goo0dHardDick:
Exactly my point.

She didn't point a gun at your head and commanded you to do anything for her. You just didn't have the balls to tell her NO to her demands, that's where many of you guys are getting it wrong.

Dude be bold and tell a girl no whenever she asked for anything from you, if she wants to leave kindly show her the door to fk off! That's how to be a man!!

ReacherSaidNoth:
This is silly reasoning. Men falling or not falling for the antics of bad women does not make the action of those women free from judgement.

This is like saying victims of robbery are foolish and the robbers themselves have done no evil.

Did those women robbed you? You just lack the balls to say NO to their demands. As for behaviours, they didn't force you nor pointed a guy at your head to end up with them. You dated her before ending up with her so why looking for blame? That's dumb! The fact you dated her is enough for you to know wether to commit to her or not!

meobizy:
How many times should I say no before she tempts me with sex?

Sex is completely normal. Dude women enjoy sex far more than men. Esp when a girl is into you.

When she tempts you with sex, you tempt her with sex too na

APOPTOSIS:
Women are smarter when it comes to lifetime choices. Even the poorest and least Educated girl will go for the best man. It's innate. They make everything transactional.
However, men are the prize yet they fail to use it

. Women do not make everything transactional. They are not responsible for the transactional nature of things and romantic relationships. Rather, society as designed by men is transactional, forcing women to needing to adopt the transactional model to survive.

ReacherSaidNoth:
This is silly reasoning. Men falling or not falling for the antics of bad women does not make the action of those women free from judgement. This is like saying victims of robbery are foolish and the robbers themselves have done no evil.

She is a bad woman for doing what many men do to women and have, on the most part, been able to get away with, without judgment?

If you want to help a woman (or any other person), don't expect anything in return. How can you train someone for 4 years and at the end of the programme, she marries another person ? That's not woman nature, that is wickedness.

We need to look in the mirror to see who is either evil or foolish. Too many times guys volunteer to finance a babe's schooling ... whether she asked or not. At that point ... were there any conditions attached? ... as in " I can manage your schooling expenses on condition that we have an exclusive relationship and we get engaged or married after graduation." If she agrees then the guy has every right to be upset with her and see her as "evil" or whatever. If he began paying with no conditions involved ... not telling her his expectations... then he is very wrong to say she's evil.... ungrateful or whatever if after graduation she moves on with someone else. Guys need to be clear if they're helping ... or trying to buy love.

Nigerians are weird, you know.
Its the only place where for every thing you did for somebody you expect a reciprocal.
Parents birth and train their kids which is an obligation yet they expect a return from their kids as soon as they became adults.

A boyfriend shower financial gifts to girlfriend( out of low self esteem and insecurity), he feels that financial inducement is a binding right.
The lady now became his property.


My bros told me something while growing up.
Any money a man giveth a babe equals money used to have fun in bar with hommies. Its money forgotten. A kinda feel good to make you feel important. Thats why naija guys will continue entering the same manhole cos they think that generously gifting a woman will make the lady bow before them.
Don't we all love to be a prince and act like one.

That's why politicians will continue to steal cos there are many eyes to impress. Makes them feel like kings and Queens. The naija trademark.
Goodluck to you all.

WatchYourSix:
➜Since when do pple sign contract /agreements or affidavit before expecting reciprocated feelings in a relationship ... ...but if the table turns after dating a guy for years and ddnt marry yall...you won't say this same thing here ....
#....women and double standards.....

There was a recent post about a woman who funded her boyfriend's education, only for him to abandon her for another woman after he got his degree and job. She had to swallow her own "foolishness" after it all.

The fact is, if what you give someone is something with the intention of gaining something in return, then common sense is that you sign an agreement with the other person, making clear what the intention of the payment—not a gift— you intend to make. If the other person agrees to accept the payment based on the terms and conditions set in the agreement, then you are good to claim you were wronged. Otherwise... accept your loss for what it is...a loss!

Samantha125:
If you want to be nice with your own pockets, go ahead, but don't expect anything in return since it'd have been done out of your own freewill.

The same goes for your sister's boyfriend right... interesting. Btw what's the development on that matter? Are you still aiding your sister's mission to rip her bf off?

WatchYourSix:
Since when do pple sign contract /agreements or affidavit before expecting reciprocated feelings in a relationship ...

...but if the table turns after dating a guy for years and ddnt marry yall...you won't say this same thing here ....

#....women and double standards.....

currently she's been helping her sister to make fool of her sisters bf. Collecting the guys money and still cheating on him. Tells you everything you need to know about women. As long as it doesn't affect them negatively, it's a go

brain54:
➜Those "gifts" weren't given to a random stranger on the streets... They are implied agreements/inference. People ought to be trustworthy enough to keep their words... which takes me back to my original comment here as they is nothing wrong in trusting people to keep their words!

A payment is what you give or make in exchange for goods and services— a commitment is implied.

gift

1. a thing given willingly to someone without payment; a present.

A gift is not a payment!

To rip who off when it's her own money that she worked hard for? She might not be a perfect human being like most of us, but she has her own source of income... The guy was even unemployed when they started dating.

Our father didn't raise us to be fully dependant on men.

Tenrack:
The same goes for your sister's boyfriend right... interesting. Btw what's the development on that matter? Are you still aiding your sister's mission to rip her bf off?

That's nothing compared to when you've invested into the relationship with your pockets.

We'll cry while still enjoying your gifts...

WatchYourSix:
As If yall don't cry more when they don't marry you......abeg swerve....

Samantha125:
That's nothing compared to when you've invested into the relationship with your pockets.

We'll cry while still enjoying your gifts...

Keep lying to yourself...U date a man for years that fvcked you over and over, in some cases with several abortions, then dumps u for someone else....sometimes messing you up for the next man, that's if y'all even get another man.....but it's nothing compared to money that can be replaced in no time??

Lol ... Yeah...I see it's nothing..no wonder y'all start breaking his tv and car windscreen, going to his wedding venue to cause chaos......

Kobojunkie:
The fact is, if what you give someone is something with the intention of gaining something in return, then common sense is that you sign an agreement with the other person, making clear what the intention of the payment—not a gift— you intend to make.

u sound like u have never dated or just want to drop comment to make being wicked justifiable....

Even if you don't give money at all when are in a relationship, u will always give something that will constitute loss when the other person just walk away in a manner that shows they were using you all along.....like I said u are just being unrealistic

Kobojunkie:
Otherwise... accept your loss for what it is...a loss!

eventually, everyone will accept their loss....

My context is blaming someone for being kind to their partner, helping their spouse or boyfriend...y'all justifying being wicked to the person u dated.....

Honestly, this is just your fragile ego talking.

Is abortion that common in Nigeria that you're assuming that every woman does it? And if it is, how come you're still the most populous country in Africa?

WatchYourSix:
Keep lying to yourself...U date a man for years that fvcked you over and over, in some cases with several abortions, then dumps u for someone else....sometimes messing you up for the next man, that's if y'all even get another man.....but it's nothing compared to money that can be replaced in no time??

Lol ... Yeah...I see it's nothing..no wonder y'all start breaking his tv and car windscreen, going to his wedding venue to cause chaos......

Tenrack:
currently she's been helping her sister to make fool of her sisters bf. Collecting the guys money and still cheating on him. Tells you everything you need to know about women. As long as it doesn't affect them negatively, it's a go

Wow.....hungry pple everywhere

But That's the thing...they are deliberately wicked from the start but pretending ...then they play the card did I force u....deception with aim to gain is a form of manipulation and coercion...
Then they expect the person they are wicked to, to just walk away because they ddnt put a gun to their head or force them...

Yeah....some pple walk away....but we've also seen pple that don't paying back in their own medicine

Samantha125:
Honestly, this is just your fragile ego talking.

fragile ego?? We are both talking about situation happening around to other pple and you are talking about fragile ago... Are we still on the same topic or u don't even have knowledge of existing reality??

Samantha125:
Is abortion that common in Nigeria that you're assuming that every woman does it? And if it is, how come you're still the most populous country in Africa?

I won't even indulge u on this without sounding condescending and throwing a jab at your level of IQ....so I'll let you figure it out on your own with your usual hatred for Nigeria...

Are we now gonna generalize the rest of the female gender based on the minority?

So I now hate Nigeria for asking an honest question? If abortion is that much common in Nigeria, how come you're still the most populous country in Africa?🤷🤷🤷

WatchYourSix:
fragile ego?? We are both talking about situation happening around to other pple and you are talking about fragile ago... Are we still on the same topic or u don't even have knowledge of existing reality??



I won't even indulge u on this without sounding condescending and throwing a jab at your level of IQ....so I'll let you figure it out on your own with your usual hatred for Nigeria...

Why will you decide to train someone else daughter in school ,things have changed is not the same life during the time of your uncles and father,now everyone is after survival there is no shame again .

Even in business there is nothing like gentleman agreement again ,pls don't set yourself for failure and heartpain, women are very brutal and heartless

They are out for survival,men should always bring in survival mode too ,look for relationship that will benefit you ,stop dating liabilities ,be intentional don't be carried away with sex and beauty

Before starting and relationship look at how is going to benefit you ,if not abort mission .

Women are not evil ,it's you that make wrong choice

Samantha125:
Are we now gonna generalize the rest of the female gender based on the minority?

Generalize?? u talked about taking money/ gifts from men and how men are crying but want to somehow accuse me of generalizing?? Lol....u fvnny dude...

Samantha125:
So I now hate Nigeria for asking an honest question?

Lol....we are talking about modern day existing happenings in relationships, u suddenly brought up the Nigerian pple.......its easy to spot that you have some hidden bias for someone or something.....

Samantha125:
If abortion is that much common in Nigeria, how come you're still the most populous country in Africa?🤷🤷🤷

Like I said, I don't want to indulge u on this so called "honest" question about Nigeria because there is no how I wont sound condescending and like I'm throwing jabs at your level of intelligence.......
But hey!! Google can help you understand the principle of demographic transition and how the rate of birth is naturally more than rate of mortality among the general human population

The number of women who do abortions and act up during breakups is nothing compared to the majority of men who unnecessarily financially invest in relationships that are not even guaranteed that they'll lead to marriage... You can't compare the two.

And when you say the rates of births are more than the rates of mortality, which births are you talking about since according to you, women are busy conducting several abortions for their boyfriends and getting damaged?🤔🤔🤔

And I honestly don't understand why you're fighting me because I'm only trying to advise you men to stop spending unnecessarily on women who are neither your fiancees or wives... Imagine a guy paying his girlfriend's school fees, that's crazy.

WatchYourSix:
Generalize?? u talked about taking money/ gifts from men and how men are crying but want to somehow accuse me of generalizing?? Lol....u fvnny dude...



Lol....we are talking about modern day existing happenings in relationships, u suddenly brought up the Nigerian pple.......its easy to spot that you have some hidden bias for someone or something.....



Like I said, I don't want to indulge u on this so called "honest" question about Nigeria because there is no how I wont sound condescending and like I'm throwing jabs at your level of intelligence.......
But hey!! Google can help you understand the principle of demographic transition and how the rate of birth is naturally more than rate of mortality among the general human population

Samantha125:
The number of women who do abortions and act up during breakups is nothing compared to the majority of men who unnecessarily financially invest in relationships that are not even guaranteed that they'll lead to marriage... You can't compare the two.

really.?? Lol... U want to compare the number of people fvcking indiscriminately to the number of men investing heavily in a lady?? Lol ....πigga stop the cap ...

According to the wHO...btw 2014 and 2019 alone , there are over 121 million unwanted pregnancy and several thousands of unsafe abortions world wide.. ...to put it in another quantitative context...6 out if ten pregnancies end in unsafe abortions world wide, according to the WHO
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion

See ehn...I don't dialogue with emotions.....we are just talking about existing realities....

Samantha125:
And when you say the rates of births are more than the rates of mortality, which births are you talking about since according to you, women are busy conducting several abortions for their boyfriends and getting damaged?🤔🤔🤔.

lol.....that's why I ddnt want to engage u in the issue...I noticed you won't get it and aren't going to be interested in reading about such.....u are the one asking how a nation's population is high.....and I just let u know that the rate of birth is naturally higher than rate of death regardless of abortion or any other factor that cuts population among humans world wide........there are over 16,000 births every hour....so your abortion rate won't affect the standard population of any area, weda Nigeria or the United states, where pple even have easy access to safer abortions.

Samantha125:
And I honestly don't understand why you're fighting me because I'm only trying to advise you men to stop spending unnecessarily on women who are neither your fiancees or wives... Imagine a guy paying his girlfriend's school fees, that's crazy.

Lol....fight you.....is this sarcasm, exaggeration, or attempt at gaslighting ??.

maybe u ddnt get the context...U were trying to gloat, making fun of men for their loss, even saying "did they force them?"

I only let u see it happens to women too and when it does y'all dont expect pple to tell you were u forced to invest time and emotions, or ur body??

the truth is everyone experiences loss in a long relationship that ended badly.......u don't have to invest money to lose....
Relationships end all the time ....but the reality is that pple are hurt more, weda men or women when they realize the other person was just using them weds it's for their body or money

121 million unwanted pregnancies and several thousands of unsafe abortions out of approximately 4 billion women worldwide, how nice... And how did we go from talking about Nigeria to the world?🤦🤦🤦

You're the one who made it seem like every woman does several abortions and gets damaged like you guys invest heavily in relationships... Only few wise men spend on their relationships wisely until they're finally married.

I was making fun of those men who fund their girlfriends' education and spend heavily on them when there's not even any guarantee that the relationship would last, that's madness.

WatchYourSix:
really.?? Lol... U want to compare the number of people fvcking indiscriminately to the number of men investing heavily in a lady?? Lol ....πigga stop the cap ...

According to the wHO...btw 2014 and 2019 alone , there are over 121 million unwanted pregnancy and several thousands of unsafe abortions world wide.. ...to put it in another quantitative context...6 out if ten pregnancies end in unsafe abortions world wide, according to the WHO
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion

See ehn...I don't dialogue with emotions.....we are just talking about existing realities....

lol.....that's why I ddnt want to engage u in the issue...I noticed you won't get it and aren't going to be interested in reading about such.....u are the one asking how a nation's population is high.....and I just let u know that the rate of birth is naturally higher than rate of death regardless of abortion or any other factor that cuts population among humans world wide........there are over 16,000 births every hour....so your abortion rate won't affect the standard population of any area, weda Nigeria or the United states, where pple even have easy access to safer abortions.


Lol....fight you.....is this sarcasm, exaggeration, or attempt at gaslighting ??.

maybe u ddnt get the context...U were trying to gloat, making fun of men for their loss, even saying "did they force them?"

I only let u see it happens to women too and when it does y'all dont expect pple to tell you were u forced to invest time and emotions, or ur body??

the truth is everyone experiences loss in a long relationship that ended badly.......u don't have to invest money to lose....
Relationships end all the time ....but the reality is that pple are hurt more, weda men or women when they realize the other person was just using them weds it's for their body or money

121 million unwanted pregnancies and several thousands of unsafe abortions out of approximately 4 billion women worldwide, how nice... And how did we go from talking about Nigeria to the world?🤦🤦🤦 And where in the research is it stated that majority of those women eventually got damaged after conducting those abortions and didn't get any other men to date them?🤦🤦🤦

You're the one who made it seem like every woman does several abortions and gets damaged like you guys invest heavily in relationships... Only few wise men spend on their relationships wisely until they're finally married.

I was making fun of those men who fund their girlfriends' education and spend heavily on them when there's not even any guarantee that the relationship would last, that's madness.

WatchYourSix:
really.?? Lol... U want to compare the number of people fvcking indiscriminately to the number of men investing heavily in a lady?? Lol ....πigga stop the cap ...

According to the wHO...btw 2014 and 2019 alone , there are over 121 million unwanted pregnancy and several thousands of unsafe abortions world wide.. ...to put it in another quantitative context...6 out if ten pregnancies end in unsafe abortions world wide, according to the WHO
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion

See ehn...I don't dialogue with emotions.....we are just talking about existing realities....

lol.....that's why I ddnt want to engage u in the issue...I noticed you won't get it and aren't going to be interested in reading about such.....u are the one asking how a nation's population is high.....and I just let u know that the rate of birth is naturally higher than rate of death regardless of abortion or any other factor that cuts population among humans world wide........there are over 16,000 births every hour....so your abortion rate won't affect the standard population of any area, weda Nigeria or the United states, where pple even have easy access to safer abortions.


Lol....fight you.....is this sarcasm, exaggeration, or attempt at gaslighting ??.

maybe u ddnt get the context...U were trying to gloat, making fun of men for their loss, even saying "did they force them?"

I only let u see it happens to women too and when it does y'all dont expect pple to tell you were u forced to invest time and emotions, or ur body??

the truth is everyone experiences loss in a long relationship that ended badly.......u don't have to invest money to lose....
Relationships end all the time ....but the reality is that pple are hurt more, weda men or women when they realize the other person was just using them weds it's for their body or money

Samantha125:
121 million unwanted pregnancies and several thousands of unsafe abortions out of approximately 4 billion women worldwide, how nice... And how did we go from talking about Nigeria to the world?🤦🤦🤦

First u claimed there are less women getting pregnant and commiting abortion than men investing in women...how did u reach this conclusion?? And where in ur comment were u talking about Nigeria Only??
....I let u know that's not possible considering how cheap sex is and the statistics of unwanted pregnancy and abortion in low income earning nations that I gave you, which includes Nigeria.. but u are trying to stylishly make it look like this conversation is about ..

.hang on.. ....what did Nigerians do to you??

Samantha125:
121
You're the one who made it seem like every woman does several abortions and gets damaged like you guys invest heavily in relationships...

no I ddnt....u said men men lose money ......I said women lose other stuff cos both gender loses
Did u mean all men?? Cos I certainly ddnt mean all women..

Samantha125:
121
Only few wise men spend on their relationships wisely until they're finally married.

so these things don't happen to married men too ...??.....ur gender is known for financial greed and that's why prenup started in the first place to manage some post-divorce loss...a few comments back.... Somebody already accused u of conniving with your sister to exploit her boyfriend.....

Samantha125:
121
I was making fun of those men who fund their girlfriends' education and spend heavily on them when there's not even any guarantee that the relationship would last, that's madness.

..but is there any guarantees in anything??
.. If I pretend to love u and u let me sleep with you, start planning wedding with me but I later dump you, ... ....uve not done any wrong because I led you on and deception was involved...... It will be evil if any one to start telling you who forced you to start planning wedding ...

Topnotch95:
Before you commit to a person, always observe closely and make findings about who they truly are, the kinds of male and female friends they keep, the kind of family they are from, the kind of lifestyle they live and lastly, be very principled as a man. Have some do's and don't.

Such as Don't train ur girlfriend through school but you can assist if need be, but it must not be all the time.

Secondly, always watch out for yourself first. Don't over do in a relationship.

Thirdly, give what you can afford to loose without any form of regret later in the future.

Lastly, always follow your instinct when you sense fowl play and that's because our instincts are always right at all time.

Always remember that she is not your wife yet. Only marriage comes with certification that she is yours, relationship doesn't come with any of such ownership.

Marriage sef Gan na 50/50 ....

Any party fit change their Minds anytime ... The Game is the Game!

The number is still far less compared to the total population of women worldwide... It's even less than the total population of Nigeria.

And what do you mean where in my comment did it say I was talking about Nigeria only? Is the thread not about a Nigerian guy who's crying because he funded his girlfriend's education and spent heavily on her only for her to breakup with him afterwards? Yet I'm the emotional? Okay.

I was referring to the majority of Nigerian men since this topic is about one of your brothers, but can we say the same about the majority of Nigerian women getting damaged from doing several abortions and never having suitors again? I don't think so.

Marriage is a contractual, cultural and spiritual agreement that both parties would've sworn to commit to... So whatever happens in
a marriage is none of my business.

And why would I start planning a wedding with you after sex when you'd have not even paid my dowry?🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

WatchYourSix:
First u claimed there are less women getting pregnant and commiting abortion than men investing in women...how did u reach this conclusion?? And where in ur comment were u talking about Nigeria Only??
....I let u know that's not possible considering how cheap sex is and the statistics of unwanted pregnancy and abortion in low income earning nations that I gave you, which includes Nigeria.. but u are trying to stylishly make it look like this conversation is about ..

.hang on.. ....what did Nigerians do to you??

no I ddnt....u said men men lose money ......I said women lose other stuff cos both gender loses
Did u mean all men?? Cos I certainly ddnt mean all women..

so these things don't happen to married men too ...??.....ur gender is known for financial greed and that's why prenup started in the first place to manage some post-divorce loss...a few comments back.... Somebody already accused u of conniving with your sister to exploit her boyfriend.....

..but is there any guarantees in anything??
.. If I pretend to love u and u let me sleep with you, start planning wedding with me but I later dump you, ... ....uve not done any wrong because I led you on and deception was involved...... It will be evil if any one to start telling you who forced you to start planning wedding ...

WatchYourSix:
➜u sound like u have never dated or just want to drop comment to make being wicked justifiable.... Even if you don't give money at all when are in a relationship, u will always give something that will constitute loss when the other person just walk away in a manner that shows they were using you all along.....like I said u are just being unrealistic
➜eventually, everyone will accept their loss.... My context is blaming someone for being kind to their partner, helping their spouse or boyfriend...y'all justifying being wicked to the person u dated.....

Are you OK at all? There is nothing wrong with giving gifts in a relationship or outside of a relationship. The problem here is pretending your gift is instead some sort of payment that is meant to grant you access or privileges over a person's freedoms, be it in a relationship or outside of relationships. A gift is not a payment, and a payment is not a gift...know the difference.

2. If you give a gift only to then turn around to pretend it was in fact a payment, you are not a kind person at all, but a person with a predatory mindset. If you want to give, then give only that which you can let go. Don't give only to then claim you were defrauded when you were just a fool in your giving.

Topnotch95:
Before you commit to a person, always observe closely and make findings about who they truly are, the kinds of male and female friends they keep, the kind of family they are from, the kind of lifestyle they live and lastly, be very principled as a man. Have some do's and don't.

Such as Don't train ur girlfriend through school but you can assist if need be, but it must not be all the time.

Secondly, always watch out for yourself first. Don't over do in a relationship.

Thirdly, give what you can afford to loose without any form of regret later in the future.

Lastly, always follow your instinct when you sense fowl play and that's because our instincts are always right at all time.

Always remember that she is not your wife yet. Only marriage comes with certification that she is yours, relationship doesn't come with any of such ownership.

The earlier men realize there are many women out there who are not meant for marriage the better for the men