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MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said it's obedience to those he chose that heaven will approve whatever we do {Matthew 16:19} his first century disciples also believes this! Hebrews 13:7

So if your activities in sacred service is not pleasing to Jesus' representatives i'm sorry for you! Matthew 25:45🙂

MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell the life of Jesus we know here on planet earth depends on God shey?
What else do you wish to know?🙂

blueAgent:
That same Bible and Jesus told you that obey is better than Sacrifice.

Occultists and witches and even killers,prostitutes kidnappers and ppl who commit all sort of crimes also give charities and do good deeds, but all those things are vanity before God, if they are done without obedience and faith in his word.


Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

blueAgent:
How does that prove that, Jesus is not the literal Son of God?

MaxInDHouse:
There is nothing literal in this all sons of God owe their life to God and Jesus isn't different!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Who is talking about charity?😂

Jesus selected few men to form a group and handed the work over to them {Luke 6:13} so if you don't have any organized group with which you are obediently working as a disciple {Act 2:42} Jesus doesn't know you! Matthew 25:34-46

blueAgent:
Keep deceiving yourself.
Why is it not convenient for you to accept other Bible verses that talks about the Diety of Jesus, why accepting only the verse that claims all sons of God?
What are you running from?

blueAgent:
So JW is the group Jesus formed and handed over his work to? Imagine, workers that deny the Origin of their Boss, what kind of workers are they?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't inherit it rather he was given after completing the task he came to fulfill on earth.
Immortals means can't die so if Jesus die it means he doesn't inherit it rather God declared it after Jesus conquered.

For your information all born again Christians will become immortal once they finish their earthly mission just as Jesus did that's why they are referred to as SAVED! Revelations 20:5-6

blueAgent:
This is pure blasphemy.
Do you even have sense?
How can you expect jesus as a Man not to die, when his purpose of coming to Earth was to experience death for humanity?
My emphasis on Christ Immortality is the pre-incarnate Jesus.
As a man, Jesus was 100% pure human.
But weather as a man or as the Pre- incarnate Jesus he was 100% the literal Son of God.

MaxInDHouse:
You can't know him more than his real disciples so prove you know him better by presenting your church that's actively preaching and teaching globally! Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Act 1:8

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.
I hope you ponder on this verses.

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

MaxInDHouse:
It applies to you who can't mention any group under which you are obediently doing what Jesus commanded.

That's what makes you a worker of INIQUITY/LAWLESSNESS.

You should be able to present a group under whose umbrella you are together as obedient disciples serving Christ.

In the absence of that you are just deceiving yourself claiming self righteousness!😂

MaxInDHouse:
It applies to you who can't mention any group under which you are obediently doing what Jesus commanded.

That's what makes you a worker of INIQUITY/LAWLESSNESS.

You should be able to present a group under whose umbrella you are together as obedient disciples serving Christ.

In the absence of that you are just deceiving yourself claiming self righteousness!😂

blueAgent:
How are you doing the will of the father( GOD)?
When you lie against, the testimony he gave about his son.

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.
If its by group, then Rotary club, freemasons, Illuminati and many others would make Heaven.

blueAgent:
There are religious groups like Jehovah's Witnesses,

(JW)

JW

Thanks.

MaxInDHouse's

blueAgent:
Where did I state that john6:46 and 1Tim6:16 refers to Jesus?

You can see from those verses that only GOD has Immortality, No Angel or Man has Immortality.

Jesus been the Literal offspring and only begotten of GOD has Immortality inherently, having inherited it from his father, GOD.

Janosky:
Jehovah gave Jesus immortal life after Jesus resurrection. That he died for 3 days proves he was not immortal every second his life.

blueAgent:
What has Matthew 27:46,50, got to prove about Jesus been Immortal.

Are you mistaken the pre- incarnate Jesus with the Incarnate Jesus(Man)?

Of course Matthew 27:46,50 is talking about Jesus's death as a man here on Earth.

Jesus was 100% Man here on earth, but he still remained the Son of God.

The pre-incarnate Jesus is divine,immortal and can never see death.

tctrills:
Are you confusing yourself?
According to you and I agree, The Greek word monogenes means ONLY BORN (begotten).
So even you agree that your begotten child na the pikin wey you borm.
Now probing further, you went on to state that only your first born is your begotten the rest of your kids are not begotten by you. To me, that only tells us the character of your wife.
Do you understand now?

Janosky:
Let me use your term "pre-incarnate" & "incarnate."
Jesus left his preincarnate life & began his incarnate life where he died.
He died faithful to his God when he resurrected to his preincarnate life.
If he became rebellious during his incarnate life,he would have lost immortality forever.
1 Peter 3:18. Hebrew 5:7-8.

Janosky:

Begotten is different from ONLY Begotten.

Jehovah calls Adam God's son, (Adam is begotten/begotted by Jehovah) whereas Jesus is the ONLY BORN (Only begotten) son of Jehovah God

Oga, ONLY BORN means ONLY Begotten.
An only child is both the firstborn child & Only begotten child simultaneously.
For instance,Isaac is firstborn/only begotten Son of his parents (Abraham & Sarah) though Abraham had other children.
The widow's son (that Jesus resurrected) is the only begotten son/firstborn of his parents.

.Jesus is the ONLY BORN (ONLY Begotten) & Firstborn of his Father, Jehovah God because Jehovah created Jesus as the beginning of the Creation by God.
Also, Jesus inherited unique Blessings not given to other sons of God just as Isaac inherited unique blessings not given to other sons of Abraham.

FxMasterz:
So, you even changed to word 'begotten' to created. So, when you begat your children, you actually created them. And, your firstborn is actually the child you created yourself while your other children were created by other men. Isn't it?

tctrills:
Oga but this is rubbish even for your level.
How can Begotten is different from ONLY Begotten?
Only begotten means you have just one begotten. Stop confusing yourself. If Adam was a begotten son of God, then Jesus Christ is not the only Begotten. It means God had 2 or more Begotten hence He can't have an only begotten.

Janosky:
Oga,Use Greek bible lexicon meaning & stop typing what you can't prove.
Greek gennao meaning beget,begotten, born, give birth,MAKE,produce,
IS DIFFERENT from
Greek monogenes meaning ONLY BORN / ONLY BEGOTTEN.
Greek genes comes from gennao.....

Screenshots evidences
Oga Tctrills, pls grow up.....

Janosky:
Let me use your term "pre-incarnate" & "incarnate."
Jesus left his preincarnate life & began his incarnate life where he died.
He died faithful to his God when he resurrected to his preincarnate life.
If he became rebellious during his incarnate life,he would have lost immortality forever.
1 Peter 3:18. Hebrew 5:7-8.

blueAgent:
Colossians 2:9 is one of the clearest statements of the deity of Christ anywhere in the Bible: “In him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” The word for “Godhead” here is theotés. According to this verse, Jesus Christ is God Incarnate. He embodies all (“the fulness”) of God (translated “the Deity” in the NIV). This truth aligns perfectly with Colossians 1:19, “God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him [Christ].”

blueAgent:
Because the Godhead dwells bodily in Christ, Jesus could rightly claim that He and the Father are “one” (John 10:30). Because the fullness of God’s divine essence is present in the Son of God, Jesus could say to Philip, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9).

Janosky:
@ Ephesians 3:19Paul is teaching you

"to know this love (of Christ) that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God"
God gives to believers the fullness of God that God gave to Jesus @ Colossians 1:19 & 2:9.

Greek Theotes meaning divine nature/divine quality.
Greek Theotes is NOT Godhead, not Deity.
Please go and study Greek Bible lexicon thoroughly & stop deceiving yourself.



Jesus teaching in John 17:22-23 conflicts with your claim on John 10:30.
Jesus said God his Senior (Father),the disciples, & Jesus are one.
@ John 14:24,28 is conflicting with your claim about John 14:9.
You are insinuating that Jesus is the Father whereas Jesus debunks your claim when he said that he was sent to speak his Father's words. John 14:24.
Also , God his Senior (Father) is greater than Jesus. Verse 28.

blueAgent:
That's the risk he took because of his love for man.
John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

That's why it cost God so much to let Jesus take that Risk or chance, just to save me and you, and the entire humanity.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

MaxInDHouse:
Abeg wetin bring DOGHEAD into the matter now?😟