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This mentality of the enemy of my enemy is my friend of our people from other side of the Niger on this issue will hunt them one day and I hope when it happens there won't be noise of oppression.

A young man in uniform disrespected a constituted authority and is being applauded because it involved Wike their political enemy.

HgAkpobomeEr:
The soldier should have been more civil in his approach.

What do u mean by civil pls?

Lezzlie:
Finally someone sensible have spoken . And I say it and say to again, the level of morality, common sense and knowledge in Nigeria is below average and a society with this kid of depravity cannot elect good leaders for themselves.

A military man stopped with guns and amo to stop government from doing their job. What is the difference between this and a coup.

So the law does not apply to army or navy or air force?

Any fool with a gun and uniform can do what the boy did. The only thing he lacks is discipline.

The strongest military in the world the US Army are all within civilian authority and the laziest military in the world is acting like gangsters and lawless.

Your last paragraph make no sense. Pls is there any record any US minister going into the street grabbing land?

Answer me pls Mr knows it all.

press9jatv:
he's a Nigeria minister and not elected man. Let's differentiate it

appointed by the presidency dont forget that. so his under the directive of the president you need to note that. we at a time of peace we not under martial law

ElSudani:
This is where a lot of people are missing the point. Wike is serving at the pleasure of the president. If stop him from doing his job you are basically disobeying the president.
All the soldiers involved in this illegal security work should be dismissed immediately.

You really don't understand how the military 🪖 system works. Even if I explain to you a billion times, you might still not get it.

The FCT Minister reports directly to the President, just like all other ministers.

But unlike other ministers, he controls a whole territory (Abuja). managing land, security coordination, infrastructure, and administration.

So, the Minister of FCT = Governor of Abuja (because Abuja has no elected governor).

If you compare by influence and respect:

The FCT Minister is roughly equivalent to a Lieutenant General in status. similar to a state governor.

However, just like a governor, he cannot command the military directly. Any military order must come from the President (Commander-in-Chief) or a higher ranked officer. You saw a video where wike called the CDS and gave the officer the phone. The CDS knows the officer is following an order! And you can't break chain of order

Ikaeniyan0:
The military officer is so ignorant, did you see the way he was talking to a police officer sef? When I was in Israel, policemen are more powerful than military men on the street, if a military personnel mess up, he will be arrested by a police officer, no matter the military officer rank.

In the USA, military personnel can't arrest a civilian for any offence committed outside a US military base, even if you commit an offence close to thier base, they will call the police to com and arrest the person.

Military rule don really mess up Nigeria

See as you are reasoning , where was the guy in the street or in front of the house of the Admiral. They came to meet him at his duty, so you mean he should obey bloody civilians

AMINDA:
Lol. Generals don't retire, they just leave active service. A General dies a General. There's a reason why even after speaking to the CDS, the boys weren't asked to stand down. There are levels to this military thing. Wike was not informed but he now knows better.

Let me quote the young officer, Lt AM Yerima verbatim,

“Sir, I request to enlighten you, there is no such thing as a former Vice Admiral, a Vice Admiral is a Vice Admiral…”

that why they attach attaché to them for life

Ttalk:
It is even an impunity for a retired CNS to be ordering a serving military personnel on his personal business.

Where did the retired CNS derives his power after retirement

That's why I said u lagos apc political urchinxs don't know how the Military works. The military didn't start with tinubu or wikes Government oo. Lol

I love the response Wike got from the soldier everything is not about gragra, a minister can not be behaving like an agbero, they are proper Chanel to handle this issue.

BigCowHornn:
Smiles

You don't understand the military. Even the current chief of naval staff was that once boy at one time. All that is needed is a phone call

Is that practice limited to Nigeria alone or that's what obtain all over military establishment across the world?

Ttalk:
It is even an impunity for a retired CNS to be ordering a serving military personnel on his personal business.

Where did the retired CNS derives his power after retirement

Go and learn. Some of you who completed your secondary school education one, two or three years ago, never let people with knowledge teach you.

Maybe you think that the retired CNS allocated power to himself. Since you can read, I advise you to check the benefits given to a retired CNS by military authorities.

Serving or retired, the man has and will have his compliment of security until he dies. As the CNS, you saw that he had a serving lieutenant on his land, protecting it.

To the SA gutter, he should keep his gutter mouth to himself. Unfortunately he can not take off the uniform. The soldier is more useful to the nation than the gutter man, who absolutely serves no use. I wonder how the unlearned man called a whole lieutenant “a small boy”. That was very uncouth. Hopefully he can dare look at the soldier face to face and return in one piece, to confirm if he met a small boy.

GOFRONT:
At the end of the day, I want to see who would kiss d dust in this scenario(Is it gonna be Wike or Zubairu or Yerima)

..............the most connected figure to Tinubu would win the battle.


I am watching

tinumbu doesnt like the military i guess a decisive action will be taken

Chucks13:
Your last paragraph make no sense. Pls is there any record any US minister going into the street grabbing land?

Answer me pls Mr knows it all.

how did you infer from what I wrote that I implied US military grab lands ?

Read slowly and very slowly or you may need to change diet like okpa and abacha.

See them, sophisticated region and obtuse reasoning.

Guestmale:
This mentality of the enemy of my enemy is my friend of our people from other side of the Niger on this issue will hunt them one day and I hope when it happens there won't be noise of oppression.

A young man in uniform disrespected a constituted authority and is being applauded because it involved Wike their political enemy.

press9jatv:
Omo so Wike is constituted authority? 🙄🙄🙄

Yes

The military officer should be punished

What a nonsense

Wike was constituted as an authority in Abuja by PBAT and by extension senators reps, rivers and Nigerians at large

Ok

chidiokay:
like kneel or lye flat on the floor becos he is talking to your god

He being there alone should earn him disciplinary action,what business does a soldier have in meddling in civil matters....we all cry about the dysfunctional state of the country but appreciate impunity because you feel it's targeted against ur enemy.....that guy has committed a treasonable offence by brazenly defying a representative of the GCFR of the FRN.....it should never be allowed to stand,he perfectly represents the interests if those sympathetic to the alleged coupist.

Ikaeniyan0:
The military officer is so ignorant, did you see the way he was talking to a police officer sef? When I was in Israel, policemen are more powerful than military men on the street, if a military personnel mess up, he will be arrested by a police officer, no matter the military officer rank.

In the USA, military personnel can't arrest a civilian for any offence committed outside a US military base, even if you commit an offence close to thier base, they will call the police to com and arrest the person.

Military rule don really mess up Nigeria

The next question you should ask is simple.
Why are those ideals not present in Nigeria. Military rule is no excuse.

Every country in the world started off under military rule. George Washington was military, All of Europe was once ruled by either warrior kings or warrior emperors. Almost all of South America and Asia was under military rule some as recent as the 80's and 90's.

The question is, how have these countries managed to transition to proper civilian rule. And I say this because today's Nigeria military is still seen in a lot of minds as quarterbacking this democracy.

There is always that air around that institution that they remain the last resort, the bastion of national unity and survival because politics and politicians are relatively less trusted.

So the onus is clear. Political leadership is not doing enough to organize society properly. They are not delineating the powers and authority of the military, making laws and prescribing edicts that define relationships, boundaries and influences. And they are not doing enough to portray themselves as more patriotic to Nigeria over and above their constituencies.

And until they do Nigeria cannot be compared to other nations.

themanderon:
The thing is many Nigerians cannot reason well. Both wike and the young military officer even though he is following orders are wrong
For years we have normalized abnormality. With all the insecurity going on everywhere, why should military men be protecting private property?
Wike on his part should have followed procedure in recovering the land instead of his usual madness.

The young man was there on the instruction of his boss.He obeyed his boss so he has no fault.

Ikaeniyan0:
The military officer is so ignorant, did you see the way he was talking to a police officer sef? When I was in Israel, policemen are more powerful than military men on the street, if a military personnel mess up, he will be arrested by a police officer, no matter the military officer rank.

In the USA, military personnel can't arrest a civilian for any offence committed outside a US military base, even if you commit an offence close to thier base, they will call the police to com and arrest the person.

Military rule don really mess up Nigeria

you said it all, because people dislike wike they are cheering the navy personnel, tomorrow if this same military personnel extent their excesses we start shouting how much they have undone us, if not for poor governance what are this military people doing on the streets

AMINDA:
Lol. Generals don't retire, they just leave active service. A General dies a General. There's a reason why even after speaking to the CDS, the boys weren't asked to stand down. There are levels to this military thing. Wike was not informed but he now knows better.

Let me quote the young officer, Lt AM Yerima verbatim,

“Sir, I request to enlighten you, there is no such thing as a former Vice Admiral, a Vice Admiral is a Vice Admiral…”

So the vice admiral can illegally come take your land or better still your wife because he is vice admiral.....it's wike today,it will be you or any defenseless person tomorrow.

The guys needs to be posted outside the country as an ordealy to Nigeria ambassador in vietnam

Make una tell Igbokwe to visit village this Xmas or anytime of his choice within this period... we want to check something.

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DeLaRue:
You are incorrect.

In the pecking order of seniority, a Minister is even more senior than the Chief of Defense Staff.

That is why the Chief of Defense staff is under the Minister of Defense.

Military should be in barracks, not dictating to a senior representative of a civilian government whether he can or cannot enter a privately owned piece of land.

I hope the government doesn't take this lightly.

These are the sorts of excesses that breeds indiscipline in the military.

Or further emboldens them to attempt regime change through a coup d etat......that guy must be court martialed for dereliction or that property be consficated by govt with immediate effect.

Go remove him uniform na, who you dey send to do am for una?

This man has been a disgrace to is family and the society at large anytime he contribute in national issues He doesn't know about military order .

Nigerian soldiers, please next time, throw something like Christmas light and we won't be here arguing. You know warramin? If you don gerrit, forgerabatiti.


We Nigerian masses stand with the army!

MrDoGood:
You really don't understand how the military 🪖 system works. Even if I explain to you a billion times, you might still not get it.

The FCT Minister reports directly to the President, just like all other ministers.

But unlike other ministers, he controls a whole territory (Abuja). managing land, security coordination, infrastructure, and administration.

So, the Minister of FCT = Governor of Abuja (because Abuja has no elected governor).

If you compare by influence and respect:

The FCT Minister is roughly equivalent to a Lieutenant General in status. similar to a state governor.

However, just like a governor, he cannot command the military directly. Any military order must come from the President (Commander-in-Chief) or a higher ranked officer. You saw a video where wike called the CDS and gave the officer the phone. The CDS knows the officer is following an order! And you can't break chain of order

In a billion times yet you don't get the simple logic that a retired officer cannot give orders to serving officers especially in cases involving the government.
Is it part of your highly classified information about how the military works that a retired officer will command a serving junior officer to defy the government?
Isn't that treason?

HgAkpobomeEr:
The soldier should have been more civil in his approach.

really, wike was abusing him, he is said he does not agree with him

i love the guy confidence.

Ttalk:
It is even an impunity for a retired CNS to be ordering a serving military personnel on his personal business.

Where did the retired CNS derives his power after retirement

#We really need constitutional laws/political affairs experts to enlightenment us the more abt all this...

You are perfectly right. Most negative energy supporting the officer are doing so because of hate for Tinubu which automatically transcend to Wike and Wike himself have his own set of haters who care less if he's doing a great job or not but to see him down and disgrace. Nigerians are very difficult human beings, wicked people and envious .......so sad that nothing goes well again in this country, just hate and hates everywhere..... Nothing better than division into pieces......

HgAkpobomeEr:
The soldier should have been more civil in his approach.