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A collapsing country. I don’t believe in a god who created all these people with such mentality.

muyico:
Thank God, Islamic countries,were not world power,how this world go look like??

Haa. Better they aren't.

Very stupid and extinct alien mentality......

Bro,this gets disgusting by the second.
So no Red house,blue house etc for them?

This particular religion and timidness are 5&6

GreenCovering:
Apparently it is music that is getting banned.
They are only using the physical education aspect to spice up the story.
Islam prohibits unbridled mixing of males and females and not physical education. You guys always looking for a way to misrepresent Islam.

This is the story from a Bangladesh news agency. Both PE and music were banned.

I understand if u are ashamed of your religion but don't deny the truth that comes out from your religion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dhakatribune.com/amp/bangladesh/court/396053/hc-questions-legality-of-scrapping-music-physical

osuofia2:
This religion trying to take the world to stone age. Bangladesh is one of the most Poorest country in the world and those things been banned are not responsible for it.
I so much like the Saudi crown prince, he is doing wonders to reform the islam there

In the 1990s when the Taliban first took power in Afghanistan, they demolished two very ancient Buddha statues. It was of great historical importance.

An afghan said, "We know we don't have a future. Now, we don't even a past."

SIRTee15:
This is the story from a Bangladesh news agency. Both PE and music were banned.

I understand if u are ashamed of your religion but don't deny the truth that comes out from your religion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dhakatribune.com/amp/bangladesh/court/396053/hc-questions-legality-of-scrapping-music-physical

May be you need to reread the news once again to understand it better.

The school board introduced more positions under music and physical education in a single communication. The people protested against that release on the grounds that schools were lacking in enough religious instructors but instead of addressing that issue, the ministry is adding extra position for music teachers.

"Various religious and political organizations raised objections, demanding the creation of religious teacher positions instead of music teachers, and launched protests."

Then as a result of these protests, the communication was withdrawn.

So the people's grouse was against the bringing in of more music teachers and not particularly against physical education which was contained in the bulletin as well. The people know what they wanted and they know where their distaste was. But when the enemy wants to attack and smear Islam, they know how to deliver the combo to front their mischief. Only discerning eyes are able to see through most times and there's nothing to be ashamed of.

GreenCovering:
May be you need to reread the news once again to understand it better.

The school board introduced more positions under music and physical education in a single communication. The people protested against that release on the grounds that schools were lacking in enough religious instructors but instead of addressing that issue, the ministry is adding extra position for music teachers.

"Various religious and political organizations raised objections, demanding the creation of religious teacher positions instead of music teachers, and launched protests."

Then as a result of these protests, the communication was withdrawn.

So the people's grouse was against the bringing in of more music teachers and not particularly against physical education which was contained in the bulletin as well. The people know what they wanted and they know where their distaste was. But when the enemy wants to attack and smear Islam, they know how to deliver the combo to front their mischief. Only discerning eyes are able to see through most times and there's nothing to be ashamed of.

I've always said it, the problem with Islam isn't the violence of the minority radicals or the extremist.

The big problem with Islam is the lies, deception, denial and taqqiya of the majority so called moderate Muslims.
Their actions or inactions fuels the raging hormone of the violent prone extremists.
The extremists in Islam knows they would not be cautioned by the majority so called moderates, no matter what they do.

This article clearly stated both PE and music teaching positions were withdrawn by the govt FF protest by Islamic group BUT this moderate Muslim is blatantly denying the truth even when it's written in black and white.

Even a spokesperson of the sports association is the one who has taken the govt to court to challenge the ban.

Why would a sport person be fighting for music teachers if PE isn't affected? This is the question we should ask this so called moderate Muslim.

Beloved study Matthew 24 especially 1-31

Ask yourself the following questions:

1. Was this passage about the end times / last days?
2. Does it mention the Antichrist?
3. Does it mention the Great Tribulation?
4. Does it mention Christ returning in the sky?
5. Does it talk about the Elects gathered by the angels?

We have been lied to for almost 200 years on the subject of Rapture and the Great Tribulation....A sign of the end in its own capacity...the reason Jesus said "Let no man deceive you!" as He began to answer the disciples question "What will be the sign of your coming and of the end the world?"

Shalom!

SeriouslySense:
Okay, some understand the great tribulation as the first half of the seven years, and the wrath of God as shortly after the abomination of desolation or the second half.

Why i understand that the rapture is before the seven years or the very day that it begins, is because Thessalonians said. before he is revealed the One who retrains his full manifestation will be taken out of the way, so to me, it indicates the Holy Spirit will be taken up to heaven, and since we have received the holy Spirit and he has sealed us, we will be taken with the Spirit.

Secondly The Antichrist makes a peace treaty which is suppose to last for seven years, so since he cannot be revealed, if we are here, then it means the rapture likely happens first.

I dreamed of Britain and i saw the back of one Middle eastern man, I understood he was the Antichrist and I saw that people came to kill me, but they could not see me. So i am encouraged that God will keep us in perfect peace and we will be hidden.

I am looking forward to another beautiful world and not the tribulation. God has greatly encouraged me, and we have nothing dreadful to look forward to, but hope, God said, my plans are good, and for a bright future. Not of sorrow or fear.

The number 1 problem of humanity is Islam . They even bomb themselves.

GreenCovering:
May be you need to reread the news once again to understand it better.

The school board introduced more positions under music and physical education in a single communication. The people protested against that release on the grounds that schools were lacking in enough religious instructors but instead of addressing that issue, the ministry is adding extra position for music teachers.

"Various religious and political organizations raised objections, demanding the creation of religious teacher positions instead of music teachers, and launched protests."

Then as a result of these protests, the communication was withdrawn.

So the people's grouse was against the bringing in of more music teachers and not particularly against physical education which was contained in the bulletin as well. The people know what they wanted and they know where their distaste was. But when the enemy wants to attack and smear Islam, they know how to deliver the combo to front their mischief. Only discerning eyes are able to see through most times and there's nothing to be ashamed of.

U are just trying to play the report to make ur Islamic brothers justified....

They want more Islamic teacher ?...they should ask for it..... But that's not what they did... they are claiming another subject which is music is anti-islam.....

..this has always been your strategy...calling other pples way of life anti-islam in order to force your own views and dominate them..

In the north, your shariah police arrest pple without hijab, because of hair court, for having boyfriend, and all many unimportant things...

Please answer truthfull.. Can't Islamic studies and music co exist in the school........u pretended as if u ddnt see where they call another subject anti-islam??

... See the problem everyone have with you you Muslims is that you don't want to co-exist with others and u pretend and lie about this fact a lot by calling your religion peaceful......

There is nothing peaceful about your approach ....from the way your prophet forcefully took mecca to the way you pple behave now in modern times...
....and the sad part is you all justify each other's actions even when u KlLL pple for flimsy reasons

...u feel your right as muslims must be forced on others and accepted ....and when pple resist u start your usual blasphemy talks and start killing pple....it absurd....

AntiisIam:
doffman dofman

You see wetin I dey talk now, this one wey Burna boy don join Islam hope no be say na haram enter your religion bayii keh?

Pele o . So this formal burna still pain you ooo .

Oya take am again

Jihadists don reach there,all they do is destroy people's lives with their fanaticism.

dofman:
Pele o . So this formal burna still pain you ooo .

Oya take am again

Sule but music na haram in Islam abi koye e mo nii

Tareq1105:
What do you expect from a man who takes advice from a mad man?

This one d**k don rose immediately he hears Peter Obi

Orishirishi

So you don't have anything to say about the topic but looking for a fellow 🤡 comment on PO?

advanceDNA:
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Please answer truthfull.. Can't Islamic studies and music co exist in the school........u pretended as if u ddnt see where they call another subject anti-islam??
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Of course both studies can coexist in the school technically. But this is a country of predominantly muslims, over 90%. So their laws are bound to be influenced by Islam, which disapproves of music. So if over 90% of a country's citizenry does not approve of learning it, of what use is putting it there and making them learn it? If muslims were making this demand in a place like in the UK, then of course it is out of place for them to do so.

GreenCovering:
Of course both studies can coexist in the school technically. But this is a country of predominantly muslims, over 90%. So their laws are bound to be influenced by Islam, which disapproves of music. So if over 90% of a country's citizenry does not approve of learning it, of what use is putting it there and making them learn it? If muslims were making this demand in a place like in the UK, then of course it is out of place for them to do so.

Sir.......U are still trying to justify Islamic oppression and force.....and this is why we have problem all over the world where there are muslims ....
because it's the same pattern of wanting only your own views to stand......your own court despite existing courts, your own Islamic law despite existing state law....your own shariah police despite existing country police

The country is not an Islamic state...even if there are more Muslims....it is still a mixed state covered by democratic laws ....how will u feel if other pple come asking for cancelation of Islamic studies...?? jihad(struggle) will start and beheading

AntiisIam:
Sule but music na haram in Islam abi koye e mo nii

Lol...u no sabi how Muslims think....

The first time I heard a Muslims scholar say " a Muslims that kills, rapes, and does all manner of things but observes his Salat complete is better than any Christian or Jew was when I understood Islam....
Islam isn't a religion or Faith system .......its a political movement of We against others that are not Muslims....

advanceDNA:
Sir.......U are still trying to justify Islamic oppression and force.....and this is why we have problem all over the world where there are muslims ....
because it's the same pattern of wanting only your own views to stand......your own court despite existing courts, your own Islamic law despite existing state law....your own shariah police despite existing country police

The country is not an Islamic state...even if there are more Muslims....it is still a mixed state covered by democratic laws ....how will u feel if other pple come asking for cancelation of Islamic studies...?? jihad(struggle) will start and beheading

No they didn't say that only their own view must stand. They only said that they don't want it for themselves. Perhaps, the board thought it wise to not deploy resources for it again given that the popular view is against it.

I assume you are referring to Nigeria for the other points. But come to think of it, these Islamic laws have been with the people in those areas before the arrival of the laws backed by the colonial powers. So whose values was getting pushed aside?

jihad, as correctly put is struggle (striving to be your better self). But it does not mean beheading. That is terrorism. In reality, jihad is more personal than confrontational. Terrorists gave it a whole new meaning.

advanceDNA:
Lol...u no sabi how Muslims think....

The first time I heard a Muslims scholar say " a Muslims that kills, rapes, and does all manner of things but observes his Salat complete is better than any Christian or Jew was when I understood Islam....
Islam isn't a religion or Faith system .......its a political movement of We against others that are not Muslims....

doffman dofman shey you hear

GreenCovering:
No they didn't say that only their own view must stand. They only said that they don't want it for themselves.

sir...u can go and read the news again.....they said music is anti-islam and they no longer want it it should be replaced by religious studies .....

They ddnt say they don't want it for themselves ...they called for its cancellation after labelling it anti-islam which made the ministry cancel the teachers as well.....

GreenCovering:
I assume you are referring to Nigeria for the other points. But come to think of it, these Islamic laws have been with the people in those areas before the arrival of the laws backed by the colonial powers. So whose values was getting pushed aside?

Sir....please no need to justify these things by ur Muslims brother....there was no islamic law any where in Nigeria before or after independence until 1992....it was in Zamfara it started and then started imposing it on other states despite Nigeria is a mixed country with Christians and other religions

GreenCovering:
jihad, as correctly put is struggle (striving to be your better self). But it does not mean beheading.

sir... Striving to be a better self as been translated to making any state they are an Islamic state.....it is believed u cannot be ur better self unless u have shariah and the country is an Islamic state like Saudi...

u can call it whatever u like .......what ur Muslim brothers do with it is kill non-Muslims they tag as infidels and force Islamic rule... Same happened in Iran, Afghanistan, etc

GreenCovering:
That is terrorism. In reality, jihad is more personal than confrontational. Terrorists gave it a whole new meaning.

Personal indeed....Its funny how u Muslims define your terminologies but when it comes to carrying it out, it's different from ur definition a....it's almost like u do it as a form of deception ......
. Please read your Hadith and see why jihad has never been personal but an instrument of spreading Islam through force and killing those who resist from your prophet to the caliphates after him.....
.........from the first Islamic caliphate after your prophet to the Ottoman caliphate, Islam spread through force and thousands death until they were stopped at the gates of Vienna in September 11th to 12th 1683....other wise Europe would have been full Islamic state by now..

Religion should be a personal thing btw u and God....why do u Muslims like to make it a state, or national issue to oppress and subdue others... Collecting Jizya which your prophet imposed on non-muslims after taking mecca??

Its simple...ur prophet started it ...this is not new ..u guys just pretend not to know.......yet pretend ur religion is peaceful..

Physical education? Religion being the bane of man once again.

They didn't at least demand that other faiths can not have music and they didn't directly call for its cancellation. This implies that they don't want the music classes for their wards. The word 'cancellation' was used as an opinion of the media house, which could be right when you consider that the ministry dropped the positions. Perhaps the education board could have reduced its scope to the less than 10% who may want it. Either way, the muslims have not coerced any entity as you had painted it.

advanceDNA:
there was no islamic law any where in Nigeria before or after independence until 1992

Before Nigeria's independence, Islamic law (Sharia) was a functioning legal system in the northern parts of the country, particularly within the Sokoto Caliphate, which applied to both civil and criminal matters. Following the British conquest, a hybrid system was created, where colonial rule maintained Sharia courts for civil matters like marriage and inheritance, but the British penal code replaced criminal aspects under the "indirect rule" system
(Simply googling this can help you here)

advanceDNA:
Striving to be a better self as been translated to making any state they are an Islamic state.....it is believed u cannot be ur better self unless u have shariah and the country is an Islamic state like Saudi...

The "greater jihad" is a concept from a famous hadith where Prophet Muhammad distinguishes between the "lesser jihad" (military struggle) and the "greater jihad" (the internal spiritual struggle). According to this tradition, the greater jihad is the more important and difficult struggle against one's own ego, passions, selfishness, and evil desires. It is a way to emphasize the importance of inner spiritual warfare over physical conflict.

Where this path has been followed, muslims have been a lot more successful and influential. Take senegal for example. No extremism, no radical ideologies, no controversial scholars, no war mongers etc. The result: peace and excellent people and tolerance yet stronger Islam. This is the same thing in many muslim locations around the world. In fact, Nigeria was like this before. Largely peaceful co-existence among the faiths. Those who are sensitive to these issues knew when things started getting skewed. The result is what we are witnessing today.

advanceDNA:
Religion should be a personal thing btw u and God....

But that religion needs to get to the people to start with. And obstacles were posed by the power holders of those era to religious (information) dissemination. This was the reason for the physical jihad during that era. In fact, scholars are of the opinion that once there are no obstacles, then physical jihad is not necessary. Those battles emanated from these obstacles.

AntiisIam:
doffman dofman shey you hear

Face me directly nah . You can’t face me alone ni ? 😀😀

GreenCovering:
They didn't at least demand that other faiths can not have music and they didn't directly call for its cancellation. This implies that they don't want the music classes for their wards. The word 'cancellation' was used as an opinion of the media house, which could be right when you consider that the ministry dropped the positions. Perhaps the education board could have reduced its scope to the less than 10% who may want it. Either way, the muslims have not coerced any entity as you had painted it.

I painted it?? Baba go and read the news all over again... You brothers called a subject anti-islam...is that not already lack of tolerance....??

I asked u earlier : if another group says ur islamic doctrines and teaching in schools are "anti" to their own needs and wants just as yall are calling their music education anti islam.....won't u start your jihad screaming blasphemy as usual??...u keep dishing out what y'all can't take from others..yet you claim peaceful.....

Ur usual modus operandi is to start violence imposing your views on others and yet be accusing those resisting you of painting you bad...
This is classic move of Islam...the same way your prophet killed thousand of people, took Mecca and turned around claiming they tried to kill him first..

GreenCovering:
Before Nigeria's independence, Islamic law (Sharia) was a functioning legal system in the northern parts of the country, particularly within the Sokoto Caliphate, which applied to both civil and criminal matters. Following the British conquest, a hybrid system was created, where colonial rule maintained Sharia courts for civil matters like marriage and inheritance, but the British penal code replaced criminal aspects under the "indirect rule" system
(Simply googling this can help you here)

u are the one that needs to go Google...it was back in 1992 in zamfara, sharia was first officially adopted along state laws in Nigeria .
For crying out loud, . Islam and Christianity are foreign religions/faith in Nigeria ..so don't come here trying to insinuate that shariah has always been indigenous to the north......its an imported faith forced with violence and deaths The Usman dan fodio caliphate brought it and forced it down the people through sokoto.... The sad part is y'all ddnt bring education along side your religion because hey...its is haram and anti-islam as usual...but look at the effect years later...

GreenCovering:
The "greater jihad" is a concept from a famous hadith where Prophet Muhammad distinguishes between the "lesser jihad" (military struggle) and the "greater jihad" (the internal spiritual struggle).

how does this explanation change the fact that y'all are violent in the name of your god...weda less or greater .....u have a jihad where u kill pple for not wanting your religion...so please sir... Whats this explanation for??

GreenCovering:
According to this tradition, the greater jihad is the more important and difficult struggle against one's own ego, passions, selfishness, and evil desires. It is a way to emphasize the importance of inner spiritual warfare over physical conflict.

how does this explanation change the fact that u have a jihad approved by your prophet as a way flof subduing non-muslim and anyone u call an infidel....
See .....u are just deflecting as usual..the way you pple come and say Islam is peace after your brothers start beheading pple for flimsy reasons..

GreenCovering:
Where this path has been followed, muslims have been a lot more successful and influential.

y'all Muslims lie a lot... Go and Google....Islam has only successfully spread by violence and force...from the first caliphate to the Ottoman empire stopped at the gates of Vienna in the 1600s...

Yall don't even preach....if I ask you now..when was the last time you preached to anybody about your god....?? You'll have no response..
Instead the only gospel yall seem to have is antagonizing other religions that exist where u live, and trying to use shariah as a means of control of their social space...
.....the only gospel of u Muslims is to use state law as a short cut to make your religion majority through shariah...

Ask a Muslim to preach to you...and all he will first say is Allah did not birth a child, and that jesus Jesus is not God........

GreenCovering:
Take senegal for example. No extremism, no radical ideologies, no controversial scholars, no war mongers etc.

I'm sorry to say this ....but shame on you...of all the places Islam is causing unrest, killing, including civilized nations in Europe that opened their immigration laws to you brothers ...u chose senegal as a model. Senegal is 94% Muslim...So u are lucky the few non Muslims there are not resisting ur force... Sir...there is no where Islam is not forceful and violent unless the pple their allow them to have their ways which is what's happening in senegal..

GreenCovering:
This is the same thing in many muslim locations around the world. In fact, Nigeria was like this before. Largely peaceful co-existence among the faiths. Those who are sensitive to these issues knew when things started getting skewed. The result is what we are witnessing today.

nigeria has never been peaceful since we the British left........ It stated in Jos and sokoto as a regular religious clash where Muslims will kill thousands of Christians, go into pple's home beheading them for their faith.....pple were killed in the streets for preaching the gospel...teaches burt alive for touching the Quran when a student tried to bring it in to a WASSCCE exam hall..
... It became more worse as sharia spread to 12 northern states...because once u Muslims have ur sharia u assume the state is urs ...and that's why this is your aim anywhere in the world..

GreenCovering:
But that religion needs to get to the people to start with. And obstacles were posed by the power holders of those era to religious (information) dissemination. This was the reason for the physical jihad during that era. In fact, scholars are of the opinion that once there are no obstacles, then physical jihad is not necessary. Those battles emanated from these obstacles.

listen to yourself... I dont known how y'all justify this intolerance...

Oh ..so religion must get to the people?? so violence and force us the next thing by physical jihad?? .....again u are just justify killing of your fellow man because u must force your religion..
... Why is physical jihad the next option when pple don't want your Islamic sharia...?? Ddnt you say there is no compulsion in Islam.??
.why are u pulling our physical jihad when there is opposition from pple who don't want you religion

Christians go and preach..pple refuse....do they start physical jihad?? Why can't you do evangelism like every other religion peacefully?? Its because there is nothing peaceful about you pple in the first place...

It just comes back to the fact that Muslims are intrinsically violent and have seen your religion as superior that must be forced in other to ultimately eradicate others just as your prophet did
....because there is no reason for an Islamic state to begin with if y'all have any intentions of being tolerant....but that's always your motive from the start "to subdue, and eradicate others"