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Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Krankhead: 1:13pm On Nov 13, 2025
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Cullinane:
In normal countries around the world, retired military commanders are no longer in the chain of command. Only active military commanders on active duty are in the chain of command. I am not sure why things in Nigeria are always upside down. The young military officer was on an illegal duty. Democracy or not, it's very clear that Nigerian military personnel don't rate Nigerian civilians and have no respect for the Nigerian civil rule of law. Especially those from the north who look down with disdain on Southern civilians. Well all this madness will end eventually.
I give you kudos . Why is a military guarding a property like a security man. Simply because people hates wike that's why they are defending nonsense and praising the officer.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Krankhead: 1:15pm On Nov 13, 2025
In a same environment. The officer will be dismissed.
Why is a military guarding a property like a security man. Simply because people hates wike that's why they are defending nonsense and praising the officer.
A retired officer er cannot give any instruction whatsoever to his subordinates.
Nigerians I shake my head
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by MEGAWATCH: 1:15pm On Nov 13, 2025
yarimo:
So because they are uniform men they are automatically above the law?
The problem I always have with most of you is that you conclude an issue before even reading what happened. Is that what they pay most of you to do here?

You didn't even read where a senior lawyer said Wike was wrong for not following the appropriate channels to address the issue?

Sincerely believe many of you need help.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Krankhead: 1:17pm On Nov 13, 2025
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franvincoop:
Military respect civilian authority?
As in military should follow Wike’s orders?.
How many military men did you see in Wike's entourage? -10?
Go and dismiss the officer now, even the CDS that Wike called could not tell that officer to stand down, only the person who gave that officer the order to be there can make him stand down.
Tinubu cannot give an order to a General or a Colonel or even to officer Yerima, sorry but the military does not work that way.
There is a clear chain of command.
Tinubu will give the order to the CDS who will then order the General or Colonel.
Wike a bloody civilian giving an order to a military officer is like carrying water in a basket.
You are pathetic. A retired officer cannot give any order to any subordinates once he is out of office. Get it into your skull.
You are totally wrong by saying Tinubu can't order the officer. Tinubu is the Commander in Chief and he can five orders
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by MrDoGood(m): 1:18pm On Nov 13, 2025
yarimo:
So because they are uniform men they are automatically above the law?
The person behaving he's above the law is your wike. I like the man, but he should know his boundaries.


He has no right to counter the chain of command.

In this aspect, he's not recognized.

How can you insult a uniform manhuh?


Like the audacity is loud.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by billyG(m): 1:21pm On Nov 13, 2025
BuddhaPalm:
See logic, so respecting proper channels is sending sending military men to prevent police and government officials from carrying out their duties - instead of going to their office or through the courts?
What is police work there to follow wike or touts about to go & demolish people building?police work is to fight crime,prevent crime,should dss even be there in the first place?
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by SpearofGod(m): 1:24pm On Nov 13, 2025
[When you keep using the military to rig election and intimidate and even kill your opponents, you see it as normal until the same military turn on you and then you start crying impunity when you are the architect.]All these rubbish can only be found in a country like ours,how can a military have the mind set that one soldiers life is worth more than the lives of 100 civilians they swore to protect.the military too can report to appropriate channels too since the land dispute started but people keep blaming wike for doing his job.so cos I was a CNS gives me audacity and right to encroach on any land?.
In sane countries I have never see the military actively amongst civilians as if we are in military regime where you see soldiers every where.
A retired CNS now still deploys men of the Nigerian army at will,I’m not sure the CDS was even aware of it.
Wike has his fault but the military shouldn’t have been there in the first instance
Some ignorant people will be shouting wike is grabbing land,the land he didn’t grab as a governor of his state then he will be grabbing as a minister of the FCT,after he grabs all the land then another FCt minister will come and revoke everything.we need some common sense abeg
People applaud the soldier for standing against wike forgetting that a soldier that can’t stop internal aggression can never defend external invasion.[/quote]
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Vicana: 1:25pm On Nov 13, 2025
yarimo:
So because they are uniform men they are automatically above the law?
What did you want the officer to do before?
Who assigned him to the ex naval Chief, is it not the government. Who is he to take orders from, is it not His boss, the ex naval Chief.
What is his duty, is it not to protect his boss, the ex naval Chief in terms of any danger or whatever it might be. He did his Job well, even Wike knows. Weda you see it legally or not.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Anogo850: 1:26pm On Nov 13, 2025
Ttalk:
I ve been expecting FG to intervene in the embarrassing display of power by the state actors.

The position of the FG should be clear and succinct and not play politics or appeal to the sentiment of any section.

FG should establish that Nigeria is a democracy where we have civil rule where the rule of law is the guiding principle. It's a trap for the president,if this thing had happened after election he could have discard wike but he needs wike for his reelection,if he punish the officer the North and some military men will be waiting for him,is better let him remain silent and let the matter die a good death

Military should be put in its rightful place while government representatives should guide by the rule and not emperor means.

The interest of the public is paramount, it should be guided jealously in order to have egalitarian society where citizens rights are protected
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Mirasteel: 1:30pm On Nov 13, 2025
yarimo:
So because they are uniform men they are automatically above the law?
You most always defend the people paying you, pathetic
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by RodgersAkpafu: 1:30pm On Nov 13, 2025
Sonnobax15:
lipsrsealed
Nigeria Cha cheesy. Always supplying us with irrelevant stuffs just to keep us busy so that we can forget the major things we ought to be talking about angry
You know the game very well Gee
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 1:35pm On Nov 13, 2025
Ttalk:
I ve been expecting FG to intervene in the embarrassing display of power by the state actors.

The position of the FG should be clear and succinct and not play politics or appeal to the sentiment of any section.

FG should establish that Nigeria is a democracy where we have civil rule where the rule of law is the guiding principle.

Military should be put in its rightful place while government representatives should guide by the rule and not emperor means.

The interest of the public is paramount, it should be guided jealously in order to have egalitarian society where citizens rights are protected
Karma is a beach , when you tell your fate man not to allow your friend come into your compound, you are only telling him that he is more superior than your friends....

So always resolve your problems with your friends outside the power you have given your gate man or else your gateman will one day assume that he is in the same position with you and chase you out of your house....

When Buhari sent troops against the interest of the people of South East for Python dance and all manner of dance, where you not of them that rejoicedhuh?.....lols

When Wike used Military men to kill so many innocent souls in Rivers calling them IPOB, where you not of them that rejoicedhuh

When the Military was used to make Nnamdi KANU jump bail by running walkway for his life, where you not of them that regretted why he was not killedhuh

Now the Military is using the same power you gave them , you are here talking nonsense ...telling us we are in a democratic government....imagine that nonsense....
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Blazebond(m): 1:51pm On Nov 13, 2025
The so-called Nigerian exgenerals are playing with fire,the military in Nigeria still thinks that they are in the era of military rule,this president must out them in order.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Ttalk: 1:55pm On Nov 13, 2025
dragunov:
If it was an ordinary person that the soldier prevented like that, you would be saying something different. Your hatred for Wike should not color your judgement.
Go back and read my post this time slowly and you will understand my point
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Ibrumd: 2:02pm On Nov 13, 2025
But Soldiers can go to Lekki toll gate, when politician call them then abi?
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by engrchykae(m): 2:17pm On Nov 13, 2025
Military that have been fighting boko Haram for 20 years.
Military that is powerless when it has to do with bandits
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by BuddhaPalm(m): 2:17pm On Nov 13, 2025
billyG:
What is police work there to follow wike or touts about to go & demolish people building?police work is to fight crime,prevent crime,should dss even be there in the first place?
Wike is a top governemt official and one of the official duties of the DSS is VIP protection.

All governors, of which the FCT minister is an equivalent, are assigned DSS agents for personal protection.

The Police is the law enforcement arm of the government and when FCT officials are prevented from carrying out their duties, I am sure you understand that involving the police is the next legal line of action.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Yemimovich(m): 2:17pm On Nov 13, 2025
It's pathetic to have such comment because someone hates another. Assumptions with no proof don't display sensibility.
AMINDA:
Earlier in the year, Wike revoked the C of O of the residence of the first man to join the NDA and reallocated it to his friend, Kingsley Chinda. He has taken it upon himself to square with serving and retired military officers, indiscriminately revoking properties that previous administrations have rightfully allocated to them. All green areas in the FCT have been converted and reallocated to friends and cronies, putting the environmental sustainability of the FCT at risk. He continues to be accommodated, aided, and abetted by Tinubu. All the FG does is to order probe with no action taken. What's the outcome of the probe ordered on Wike's allocation of hectares of choice lands to his sons?

https://x.com/Verydarkbackman/status/1988693781982638421
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by michoim(m): 2:20pm On Nov 13, 2025
Nice one
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by stuffs2002: 2:25pm On Nov 13, 2025
99thEnemy:
Many here on Nairaland are blaming the Lieutenant.

emiye, stuffs2002, Love800, maasoap and others.
I take it back. I will not blame the Lieutenant because he was following orders.
However, the order was not a lawful order and the Lieutenant was only doing eye service as he was not really under any obligation to follow the order because it is not a land owned by the military and the only thing the senior army officer that gave the order could have done was to go to court.

I am sure even the young officer would not be happy about the publicity he is getting as it can mar his career in the Navy.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by RaptorX: 2:52pm On Nov 13, 2025
Una go recycle this news tire under different headlines, make una continue. Same statement from Burutai and defense minister have graced front page 2 or 3 times already.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Lekan239(m): 2:54pm On Nov 13, 2025
So wike and the president are very far apart in rank. If any military personnel try that eith the president, otilor o... well the president is even the nunber 1 commander self
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by chipet67(m): 3:22pm On Nov 13, 2025
Ttalk:
I ve been expecting FG to intervene in the embarrassing display of power by the state actors.

The position of the FG should be clear and succinct and not play politics or appeal to the sentiment of any section.

FG should establish that Nigeria is a democracy where we have civil rule where the rule of law is the guiding principle.

Military should be put in its rightful place while government representatives should guide by the rule and not emperor means.

The interest of the public is paramount, it should be guided jealously in order to have egalitarian society where citizens rights are protected
Na still them scata am. Growing up, it was difficult to see a soldier. Until they started doing boy boy work for politicians.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by Typing: 3:46pm On Nov 13, 2025
Ttalk:
You even have the temerity to accuse Wike, when mess done by the Northern cabal are still plaguing the country up till today

Where is the anchor borrowers money?
Where is the security budget supervised by Dasuki.?
Where is the direct cash transfer that only benefits the north.?

Remember Buhari categorically stated that foreign grants should be focused in the north?

Today same North are the one shouting foreign military should not come and help us solve the problem your politicians created.

It sweet to chop US foreign aid, but bitter to absorb their military to terminate your bandits and BH,

Continue
Leave Northerners alone. Tinubu is the President. Channel all your grievances to him. Always blaming when it's your Tinubu that spoiled this Country within 3 years of his rule
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by themanderon: 3:54pm On Nov 13, 2025
We have still not done away with military mentality despite the soldiers returning to the barracks years ago.
The soldiers should be banned from taking action on any civilian matter. No soldier should harass any civilian except in a case of emergency rule where civil law is suspended, heck our soldiers should not even be seen in uniform in public.
That was the way it was before the military came and bastardized everything.
Soldiers have no business protecting private property when the nation barely have enough to fight it's several wars on terror. If the ex naval chief needed protection for his land he can hire private security.
If we don't stop this madness then impunity will never end. Soldiers will continue to see themselves as gods and trample on civil laws, fight their fellow security agencies and lawlessness continues.
I even see soldiers doing driver work for ogas wives and family members. This shouldn't be so in a civilized setting.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by stanisbaratheon: 4:04pm On Nov 13, 2025
All these debate, for and against, makes me sick.

The minister is obviously a control freak that met an unusual impediment, that is why it seemed like he went there with all the police and DSS he could lay his hands on.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by themanderon: 4:07pm On Nov 13, 2025
Hi
MrDoGood:
The person behaving he's above the law is your wike. I like the man, but he should know his boundaries.


He has no right to counter the chain of command.

In this aspect, he's not recognized.

How can you insult a uniform manhuh?


Like the audacity is loud.
You speak ignorantly because you don't know the function of soldiers in a civilian setting. So a uniformed man can act against the constitution because he is in uniform? Is that what you are saying?
Those soldiers aren't meant to be there in the first place if our nation was a functioning one.
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by 99thEnemy(m): 4:12pm On Nov 13, 2025
stuffs2002:
I take it back. I will not blame the Lieutenant because he was following orders.
However, the order was not a lawful order and the Lieutenant was only doing eye service as he was not really under any obligation to follow the order because it is not a land owned by the military and the only thing the senior army officer that gave the order could have done was to go to court.

I am sure even the young officer would not be happy about the publicity he is getting as it can mar his career in the Navy.
You are getting on track, but I disagree with the statement highlighted in red.

Call it eye service, but refusal to perform it could result in an insubordination charge, since investigating the legality of the land is not his concern.

He may be right to refuse the order, but in reality, who will bear the consequences in the end?
Re: Wike-Naval Officer Clash: Ex-Generals Fume As FG Orders Probe by TyroneP(m):
yarimo:
So because they are uniform men they are automatically above the law?
They're not above the law. There's a chain of command. A Private (usually the lowest rank) in the army will never take orders from a Governor/Minister even though he's representing the state. It's a standard operation procedure. There's this social cohesion in the military that binds all of them together. I really wish you could understand. In my opinion as a security expert, the first thing the Special Protection Unit was supposed to do was to extract their principal from that scene during the heated arguments.
Military operations/intelligence is an amorphous concept because it has no single, fixed or universally accepted explanation. Its scope is broad, dynamic, and constantly evolving with changes in warfare, technology, and security threats. It cuts across strategic, operational, and tactical levels, combining theory, practice, and process in collecting, analysing, and interpreting information for national defence. It also overlaps with other disciplines such as politics, psychology, criminology, and cyber studies. Furthermore, it operates under varying legal and ethical constraints, making its boundaries fluid. Hence, military intelligence is considered an amorphous concept due to its complex, multidisciplinary and ever-changing nature. For example, denial and deception.
People are talking about the Constitutional duties of the army without examining the Armed Forces Act and National Security Agencies Act.
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