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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 10:28pm On Nov 12, 2025

MaxInDHouse:
He has ran away from me for over four years but now decided to come back as if he just got the liver to used scriptures!🙂

This guy ,his previous posts few years ago,he was against the Trinity.

Who knows if he's opened an "office" for prayers & counselling.

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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 3:12pm On Nov 13, 2025

Janosky:
Oga you are human being.
Is everyone dwelling in your house share the same nature with you?

See illogical comparism.

So in other words Angels are also GOD since they all live in Heaven?

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 3:13pm On Nov 13, 2025

Janosky:
You are now admitting that Jesus is inferior to the Supreme Being, God his Father.

How is he inferior?
Are you inferior to your Father?

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 3:25pm On Nov 13, 2025

Janosky:

"Was theos " is the same Greek grammatical construct (last word) in John 1:1 & Acts 28:6.

"was a god" is the correct rendition in both verses.
Small letter "god" is the correct rendition of John 10:33.
Screenshot evidences.

Oga,stop deceiving yourself.

More lies as usual.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/tools/interlinear/mgnt/jhn/10/33/

It's obvious that the Jews wanted to stone Jesus because he said he was one with God.

If Jesus had claimed to be a god, they would not have stoned him.

Keep fooling yourself.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:24pm On Nov 13, 2025

blueAgent:
How is he inferior?
Are you inferior to your Father?

Wahala Yaaaso!🙂

See the dictionary meaning of inferior!

A person of lower rank, stature, or ability to another.

You heard me say to you, ‘I am leaving, but I will come back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be happy that I am going back to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. John 14:28

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:28pm On Nov 13, 2025

blueAgent:
It's obvious that the Jews wanted to stone Jesus because he said he was one with God.

One with God means whatever he says is from God so there is no need arguing claiming they understand the scriptures.

That's what irritated them because Jesus is saying God approves his interpretation of scriptures.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 12:43pm On Nov 14, 2025

Janosky:

Hebrew 1:5. Hebrew 5:5 plus John 3:16.
"You are my son, today I have begotten you."

Luke 7:12
" the only begotten son of his mother."

Oga, grow up & study your Bible.
Stop deceiving yourself.

Hebrew 1.5 Hebrew 5.5 and John 3.16 never said Jesus was only begotten because He is the firstborn. That is your own false believe.

Luke 7:12 Now when he came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow: and much people of the city was with her.

How does this verse connect with the discussion please?
It you are confused, take some time to relax instead of pointing to verses that have nothing to do with the topic.
The widow above had only one child.
But the problem here is that you are claiming that Adam is a begotten son and at the same time, Jesus is the only begotten Son.

Please make it make sense my dear.

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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by bobestman(m): 2:44pm On Nov 14, 2025*

Their are physical sons of God. Some of us and Spiritual sons God : Masters who passed their mission on earth and have the privilege to sit in the throne of God. These ppl are those who are sent at a certain time to earth to correct ppl of their wrong ways cos they passed while on earth which made them to ascend but those who failed are sent back to continue their lesson till they pass. An example of these ppl is Christ the Christians call Jesus. He is the one God accordingly to the bible called his precious son. The parable in Mark 12:6 says it all. Among the angels or sons of God their is usually one precious one in the sight of God

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by haekymbahd(m): 8:07pm On Nov 15, 2025*

God has no begotten son. The word "begotten" has been removed from many modern Bible translations, like the Revised Standard Version (RSV), because scholars determined the Greek word monogenes more accurately means "only" or "one of a kind" rather than "begotten". The King James Version (KJV) is the primary source of the term "begotten" in translations of passages like John 3:16

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:

"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171)

"And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, they are [but] honored servants."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 26)

"They cannot precede Him in word, and they act by His command."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 27)

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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 8:37pm On Nov 15, 2025*

tctrills:
Hebrew 1.5 Hebrew 5.5 and John 3.16 never said Jesus was only begotten because He is the firstborn. That is your own false believe..

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Tctrills,stop deceiving yourself.
Jesus is the only begotten/only born/firstborn of God his Father.
Jesus says he is beginning of Creation by God
Oga,born means created/ a creature.
Job 38:1,29, God born the dew of heaven.
Psalms 90:2, "God born the mountains."
I won't stop you from WAILING & deceiving yourself.
grin

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 8:46pm On Nov 15, 2025

tctrills:
Luke 7:12 Now when he came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow: and much people of the city was with her.

How does this verse connect with the discussion please?
It you are confused, take some time to relax instead of pointing to verses that have nothing to do with the topic.
The widow above had only one child.

Please make it make sense my dear.

Tctrills , @ Luke 7:12,is that son the only begotten/only born of his mother?
Yes.
Tctrills,@ Luke 7:12,is that son the firstborn of his mother?
Yes.
Tctrills, @ Luke 7:12, is that son the begotten by his mother?
Yes.
Isaac is the firstborn /only begotten son of his parents.
Oga, does it now make sense to you
Or
you want to deceive yourself with false claims?

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 8:54pm On Nov 15, 2025

tctrills:
But the problem here is that you are claiming that Adam is a begotten son and at the same time, Jesus is the only begotten Son.

Please make it make sense my dear.

Its in your Bible, Sir.

Luke 3:38
"Kenan was the son of Enosh. Enosh was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God"

Luke 3:38, Adam is begotten son of God.
John 3;16,Jesus Christ is only begotten son of God.

Oga, screenshot both verses in your own Bible ,let's confirm something.
cheesy

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 8:58pm On Nov 15, 2025

MaxInDHouse:
Wahala Yaaaso!🙂

See the dictionary meaning of inferior!

A person of lower rank, stature, or ability to another.

You heard me say to you, ‘I am leaving, but I will come back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be happy that I am going back to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. John 14:28

That's foolish reasoning.
So you are inferior to your Daddy?

Are you less human than your father?
If the answer is No, than Jesus is not less GOD than his father.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 8:59pm On Nov 15, 2025

Janosky:

Its in your Bible, Sir.

Luke 3:38
"Kenan was the son of Enosh. Enosh was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God"

Luke 3:38, Adam is begotten son of God.
John 3;16,Jesus Christ is only begotten son of God.

Oga, screenshot both verses in your own Bible ,let's confirm something.

See how you contradict yourself?

Show us bible verse that says Adam was begotten by God

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 9:03pm On Nov 15, 2025

blueAgent:
That's foolish reasoning.
So you are inferior to your Daddy?

Are you less human than your father?
If the answer is No, than Jesus is not less GOD than his father.

God is the head of Christ, 1 Corinthians 11:3.
1 Corinthians 11:3 = John 14:28.
Oga, go and write your own Bible.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 9:05pm On Nov 15, 2025

Janosky:
Tctrills,stop deceiving yourself.
Jesus is the only begotten/only born/firstborn of God his Father.
Jesus says he is beginning of Creation by God
Oga,born means created/ a creature.
Job 38:1,29, God born the dew of heaven.
Psalms 90:2, "God born the mountains."
I won't stop you from WAILING & deceiving yourself.

And the mountains and Dew of Heaven have the express image,Form and Nature of GOD? huh

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 9:06pm On Nov 15, 2025

Janosky:
God is the head of Christ, 1 Corinthians 11:3.
1 Corinthians 11:3 = John 14:28.
Oga, go and write your own Bible.

How does that change the fact that Jesus is God's literal Son?

B/4 Is Jesus suppose to Lord his father?

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 9:08pm On Nov 15, 2025

MaxInDHouse:
One with God means whatever he says is from God so there is no need arguing claiming they understand the scriptures.

That's what irritated them because Jesus is saying God approves his interpretation of scriptures.

Haha ha.

See how you lie against the Jews, you where not there

The Bible clearly stated their motive and understanding of what Jesus said.

Keep deceiving yourself.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 9:12pm On Nov 15, 2025

Janosky:
Tctrills,stop deceiving yourself.
Jesus is the only begotten/only born/firstborn of God his Father.
Jesus says he is beginning of Creation by God
Oga,born means created/ a creature.
Job 38:1,29, God born the dew of heaven.
Psalms 90:2, "God born the mountains."
I won't stop you from WAILING & deceiving yourself.

Keep fooling yourself.

Even a primary school child knows that job38vs1:29 and Psalms 90:2 are metaphors and should not be taken literally.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 9:20pm On Nov 15, 2025

blueAgent:
See how you contradict yourself?

Show us bible verse that says Adam was begotten by God

Genesis 5:2 & Acts 17:25,29.

Greek genos is a variant of ginomai.
Oga, allow your brain to work.
grin

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 9:28pm On Nov 15, 2025

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.

Even a primary school child knows that job38vs1:29 and Psalms 90:2 are metaphors and should not be taken literally.

The God that bore Isreal born the mountains.

The Jews never made your false claim.
Oga,Continue WAILING ooo!

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 9:35pm On Nov 15, 2025*

blueAgent:
And the mountains and Dew of Heaven have the express image,Form and Nature of GOD?

Oga, did God beget (born) Jesus his son?
Did God beget Isreal?
Did God born the mountains?

Oga, told us Jesus is the literal son of God.
Come and be lying that beget & born (as the Jews understand it) is not literal.
grin

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 9:37pm On Nov 15, 2025

blueAgent:
How does that change the fact that Jesus is God's literal Son?

B/4 Is Jesus suppose to Lord his father?

Therefore Jesus is NOT equal to God his Senior, ANCESTOR, Elder (Father)

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:53pm On Nov 15, 2025

blueAgent:
That's foolish reasoning.
So you are inferior to your Daddy?
Are you less human than your father?
If the answer is No, than Jesus is not less GOD than his father.

You just feel like asking questions and answering your own self.
I'm inferior to my father because he is responsible for my birth something he could have stopped by telling his wife to abort the pregnancy which i had no say on the matter back then. So if today i'm now a man it doesn't change the fact that he is my superior any day any time!😟

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by Janosky: 9:53pm On Nov 15, 2025

blueAgent:
More lies as usual.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/tools/interlinear/mgnt/jhn/10/33/

It's obvious that the Jews wanted to stone Jesus because he said he was one with God.

If Jesus had claimed to be a god, they would not have stoned him.

Keep fooling yourself.

Oga,you want to deceive yourself.
Besides, no evidence that you know Greek more than Greek scholars,Briggs,Thayer & Strong's whose works are well known in that body of knowledge.

Most Trinitarians even acknowledge that "a god" is the correct translation of John 10:33.
Screenshot evidence.

Jesus said he is a god because he is the son of God,@ John 10:34-36.
@ John 5:18,The Jews said Jesus "called God his Father.(Senior)."
That can not make Jesus equal to God his Senior (Father).
This Jewish people know Psalms 82:6 rendition.
@ Psalms 82:6, the sons (called " gods" know that God is their Father.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00pm On Nov 15, 2025

blueAgent:
Haha ha.
See how you lie against the Jews, you where not there
The Bible clearly stated their motive and understanding of what Jesus said.
Keep deceiving yourself.

You reason like a kid, abeg try to grow up a little nah!😟
Whenever someone is always claims he knows everything about right and wrong people around him will conclude he is making himself God over others. That's the reason why you people have several religions all claiming Christians as you don't want to believe only one could know it all. Pharisees in the first century disagreed with the idea of someone far too young to claim he knows everything about right and wrong then saying he knows God's mind.

That's what happened!🙂

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 10:57pm On Nov 15, 2025

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.

Even a primary school child knows that job38vs1:29 and Psalms 90:2 are metaphors and should not be taken literally.

Oga I never mentioned Job or psalms clam down and stop confusing yourself. Please stay on topic

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 10:59pm On Nov 15, 2025

Janosky:
Tctrills,stop deceiving yourself.
Jesus is the only begotten/only born/firstborn of God his Father.
Jesus says he is beginning of Creation by God
Oga,born means created/ a creature.
Job 38:1,29, God born the dew of heaven.
Psalms 90:2, "God born the mountains."
I won't stop you from WAILING & deceiving yourself.

I agree that Jesus Christ is the only begotten. It was you who said Adam is also begotten.
You are all over the place. Is Jesus Christ the only begotten or is Adam also begotten?

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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 11:03pm On Nov 15, 2025

Janosky:

Its in your Bible, Sir.

Luke 3:38
"Kenan was the son of Enosh. Enosh was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God"

Luke 3:38, Adam is begotten son of God.
John 3;16,Jesus Christ is only begotten son of God.

Oga, screenshot both verses in your own Bible ,let's confirm something.

Solomon was also a Son of God , Is he also a begotten son?
The bible never called Adam a begotten son. Please take it easy with the guesswork.
Hope you know that there is a curse on anyone who adds to the word of God. The bible calls Adam a son not a begotten son.

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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 11:05pm On Nov 15, 2025

Janosky:

Tctrills , @ Luke 7:12,is that son the only begotten/only born of his mother?
Yes.
Tctrills,@ Luke 7:12,is that son the firstborn of his mother?
Yes.
Tctrills, @ Luke 7:12, is that son the begotten by his mother?
Yes.
Isaac is the firstborn /only begotten son of his parents.
Oga, does it now make sense to you
Or
you want to deceive yourself with false claims?

Yes the son is the only begotten of his mom because she has just one child. How is that too hard to grasp.
Isaac was not Abraham's first son. So why confuse yourself.

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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 11:06pm On Nov 15, 2025

Janosky:
Tctrills,stop deceiving yourself.
Jesus is the only begotten/only born/firstborn of God his Father.
Jesus says he is beginning of Creation by God
Oga,born means created/ a creature.
Job 38:1,29, God born the dew of heaven.
Psalms 90:2, "God born the mountains."
I won't stop you from WAILING & deceiving yourself.

Nothing here makes sense. Take it easy and explain yourself.

Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 4:41pm On Nov 17, 2025

tctrills:
Oga I never mentioned Job or psalms clam down and stop confusing yourself. Please stay on topic

Go back to your quote I quoted.

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