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Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 2:45pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
At least the verse tells you that Jesus is IMITATING his father! smiley
Who does not imitate their father or one of their parents?
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 2:49pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So you've changed the letter to upper case again! cheesy
Is the problem G?
I thought GOD is not the name of GOD , but a generic name used to describe deities.

The Bible writers were the people who used capital letter for GOD to differentiate him from all other gods.

So other gods can beget gods, GOD can only beget a GOD.

Are you fellowing ? cool
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 2:51pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Firstborn of all creation: self explanatory! smiley
Am happy you saw firstborn.

Which means he was Born or begotten and not created like other ppl. cool
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 2:53pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
But we are fulfilling what God promised! Isaiah 2:2-4 smiley
In your Dream cool.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:26pm On Nov 20, 2025
blueAgent:
Who does not imitate their father or one of their parents?
If everyone imitates their biological father Jesus won't refer to humans as children of Satan! John 8:44
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:27pm On Nov 20, 2025
blueAgent:
Is the problem G?
I thought GOD is not the name of GOD , but a generic name used to describe deities.
So all deities are GODS.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:28pm On Nov 20, 2025
blueAgent:
Am happy you saw firstborn.
Which means he was Born or begotten and not created like other ppl. cool
Of all creation meaning all were born! Colossians 1:15 wink
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:29pm On Nov 20, 2025
blueAgent:
In your Dream cool.
According to Isaiah 2:2-4
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 3:45pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Agreement is the work of Holy Spirit only be possible among God's people! John 17:22 wink
Devils also agree in evil and falsehoods so no problem.
I wish you well.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 4:23pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Of all creation meaning all were born! Colossians 1:15 wink
Keep fooling yourself.

You are trying to play smart, it's obvious you have ran out of lies.

Isaiah 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

The above verse teaches us how to read and understand the Bible.
It's Obvious JW people are lacking in Bible reading and comprehension skills.

All Bible verses related to a particular topic must be compared line by line precept upon precept.

Based on that criteria, Man was created by God and not born by GOD.

Only JESUS was begotten by GOD.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:30pm On Nov 20, 2025
tctrills:
Devils also agree in evil and falsehoods so no problem.I wish you well.
If Devils agree to work together Jesus won't pray for his disciples to work as one because it means such a thing is possible without God. John 17:22 wink
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:33pm On Nov 20, 2025
Just as your firstborn child is one of your children so also firstborn of all creation is also a creature! Colossians 1:15

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.
You are trying to play smart, it's obvious you have ran out of lies. Isaiah 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. The above verse teaches us how to read and understand the Bible. It's Obvious JW people are lacking in Bible reading and comprehension skills. All Bible verses related to a particular topic must be compared line by line precept upon precept. Based on that criteria, Man was created by God and not born by GOD.
Only JESUS was begotten by GOD. Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 4:34pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If everyone imitates their biological father Jesus won't refer to humans as children of Satan! John 8:44
This shows you did not read that Bible verse well.

The children of Satan are those that imitate and lie against God's word just like Satan their father.
Unfortunately JW people lie and twist God's word just like their father cool
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 4:35pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Just as your firstborn child is one of your children so also firstborn of all creation is also a creature! Colossians 1:15
So God is a creature?
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 5:00pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If Devils agree to work together Jesus won't pray for his disciples to work as one because it means such a thing is possible without God. John 17:22 wink
I have seen many bad guys come together to work their evil. What do you think APC did in 2023? I know you guys don't follow politics so let me tell you. It was the coming together of evil men to further destroy 9ja.
In 1939, the Nazi, fascists and imperial Japan worked together to take over the world.
So yes my guy devils work together. Do think like a baby
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by sonmvayina(m): 6:15pm On Nov 20, 2025
blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.

You mention Education, the same Education that was brought by Christainity you call Scam.

Your hypocrisy is top notch. grin
I did what the Indians did...I took what was good and binned the cabbage. Do the same.
Take the technology drop the religion.....it's simple,
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by sonmvayina(m): 6:17pm On Nov 20, 2025
blueAgent:
Did you see me write that GOD gave birth to Humans?
How did Jesus come about then?
Jesus is supposed to be god's son, isn't it?
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by sonmvayina(m): 6:29pm On Nov 20, 2025
sonmvayina:
What about this passage below?, did God forget that he already has a first born?
Or the god of Jesus is different from the God in the old testament? This was actually the position of Marcion of Sinope.
"Exodus 4:22-23
Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says the LORD: "Israel is My son, My firstborn. So I say to you, let My son go that he may serve Me. But if you refuse to let him go, indeed I will kill your son, your firstborn."'"
BlueAgent you ignored this one
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m):
blueAgent:
This shows you did not read that Bible verse well. The children of Satan are those that imitate and lie against God's word just like Satan their father.
Unfortunately JW people lie and twist God's word just like their father cool
So in a nutshell it's imitation that makes Jesus call humans Satan's children just as he imitates his father so well.

So also all other angels obey God but Jesus did more than that: he imitates his father so much {John 5:19} Pharisees are Satan's children not because they only obey Satan but they imitates him! John 8:44wink
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:52pm On Nov 20, 2025
blueAgent:
So God is a creature?
There are many Gods! 1Corinthans 8:5
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:54pm On Nov 20, 2025
Evil men don't agree that's why they will always fail to work out what is good! wink

tctrills:
I have seen many bad guys come together to work their evil. What do you think APC did in 2023? I know you guys don't follow politics so let me tell you. It was the coming together of evil men to further destroy 9ja.
In 1939, the Nazi, fascists and imperial Japan worked together to take over the world.
So yes my guy devils work together. Do think like a baby
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 7:33pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
There are many Gods! 1Corinthans 8:5
Keep deceiving yourself.
That verse said many gods not GOD.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 7:37pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell it's imitation that makes Jesus call humans Satan's children just as he imitates his father so well.

So also all other angels obey God but Jesus did more than that: he imitates his father so much {John 5:19} Pharisees are Satan's children not because they only obey Satan but they imitates him! John 8:44wink
Layman straw and argument.

If you are a lawyer hunger go finish you because you are so poor in presenting and exhausting evidence and facts in a case.
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op):
sonmvayina:
BlueAgent you ignored this one
In your mind that verse is talking literally?
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 7:40pm On Nov 20, 2025
sonmvayina:
How did Jesus come about then?
Jesus is supposed to be god's son, isn't it?
Was Jesus human before his birth on Earth?
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by blueAgent(op): 7:40pm On Nov 20, 2025
sonmvayina:
I did what the Indians did...I took what was good and binned the cabbage. Do the same.
Take the technology drop the religion.....it's simple,
Which Indians.
The Indians that are still primitive and local?
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49pm On Nov 20, 2025
blueAgent:
Keep deceiving yourself.
That verse said many gods not GOD.
Interpretation.
There is no upper or lower case it's the names of each God that makes them unique not the upper or lower case!🙂
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:50pm On Nov 20, 2025
blueAgent:
Layman straw and argument.
If you are a lawyer hunger go finish you because you are so poor in presenting and exhausting evidence and facts in a case.
See evidence of a real Bible scholar:
Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇
DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures
Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!
SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.
IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this
Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.
Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically
Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment
Kingsempires:
wow I love this your statement 🙂🙏
Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.
CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.

But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check
CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point
naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.
Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much
shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯
JimRohn:
Do you really consider DeepSight to be on the same intellectual level as MaxInDHouse or some of the other individuals I engage with here?

Because frankly, MaxInDHouse is among the most intelligent contributors on Nairaland. In contrast, DeepSight does not even qualify for consideration when I rate people based on intellect.

That is precisely why I refuse to bring myself down to his level — instead, I choose to engage with those whose reasoning and arguments are worth my time.
Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down
RavinWolf:
I never saw a better response. Thank you. 100% correct!
Go and convince them!🙂
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 9:41pm On Nov 20, 2025
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MaxInDHouse:
Evil men don't agree that's why they will always fail to work out what is good! wink
How does your statement make s bsr? Evil men only work out what is evil and yes they agree to do so. That's why we have gangs. That's what we call evil guys that agree. We also have evil cults and evil organizations with the sole aim of deceiving their followers
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:51pm On Nov 20, 2025
tctrills:
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How does your statement make s bsr? Evil men only work out what is evil and yes they agree to do so. That's why we have gangs. That's what we call evil guys that agree. We also have evil cults and evil organizations with the sole aim of deceiving their followers
Spirituality is far away from you!🙂

Agreement can never ever work among evil people because each of them will be seeking his own glory therefore they can not achieve anything good.

God's will is that people from different nations throughout the world should be educated scripturally {Isaiah 2:2-3} and what will be the outcome? These people from different nations will AGREE to work together on what they found in God's word to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4

That is why Jesus prayed for oneness in the gathering of his disciples something that's impossible without God. John 17:22🙂
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by tctrills: 10:47pm On Nov 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Spirituality is far away from you!🙂

Agreement can never ever work among evil people because each of them will be seeking his own glory therefore they can not achieve anything good.

God's will is that people from different nations throughout the world should be educated scripturally {Isaiah 2:2-3} and what will be the outcome? These people from different nations will AGREE to work together on what they found in God's word to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4

That is why Jesus prayed for oneness in the gathering of his disciples something that's impossible without God. John 17:22🙂
From being a false teacher, you are now pretending to be an expert on evil people. No wahala, continue
Re: Is Jesus An Angel, That Became The Son Of God? by lilsmart(m): 5:50am On Nov 21, 2025
You leave everyone from Africa follow someone from Nazareth. Lol. What this story book has caused.
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