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DeepSight:
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Well let's not go too far, this is after all an American Politics thread.

But:

1. I think it is you who need to prove the manner of death of each apostle.

2. I have told you no one knows who wrote the gospels. They were attributed to the apostles. Don't take my word for it, research.

3. Much written in the Quoran is nothing but plagiarism and twisting from Hebrew scripts with their own preferred bent and narrative.

4. The only connection I can see with this thread is that it appears that like many, your support for the right and Trump is rooted in your Christianity?

Matters religion that can't be proven right or wrong are better left to individual .
Anyone is free to worship a stone for instance .
Id rather have someone who is talking about the genocide of christians, Trump and Nicky Minaj than the other one who interfered in Nigerian elections and promotes every moral depravity whenever he gets a chance. -

basilico:
Matters religion that can't be proven right or wrong are better left to individual .
Anyone is free to worship a stone for instance .
Id rather have someone who is talking about the genocide of christians, Trump and Nicky Minaj than the other one who interfered in Nigerian elections and promotes every moral depravity whenever he gets a chance. -

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The bold is part of why I always say I can point out many lamentable things about Barack.
But if you imagine that Trump is for one second interested in Christian genocide in Nigeria, you know not who you follow.

DeepSight:
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The bold is part of why I always say I can point out many lamentable things about Barack.
But if you imagine that Trump is for one second interested in Christian genocide in Nigeria, you know not who you follow.

I don't follow Trump to guide me to the next world.
I like his common sense approach to most matters and his stance on nationalism. His opponents are primarily intent on tearing down the society so that they can remake it in their own utopia.
Noone is perfect.
The liberals in my opinion are just plainly evil.

basilico:
I don't follow Trump to guide me to the next world.
I like his common sense approach to most matters and his stance on nationalism. His opponents are primarily intent on tearing down the society so that they can remake it in their own utopia.
Noone is perfect.
The liberals in my opinion are just plainly evil.

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Trump is plainly evil.
There is a lot that I dont like about liberal stances - particularly things like transgenderism especially when it is taken to absurd heights such as saying that children can choose to change their sex, saying that there are over a hundred sexes and not two, allowing men to compete in female sports, and the like. All of these are moral and ethical abominations.

But for sheer evil, sheer corruption, sheer manipulation of the worst kind, sheer racism of the most abominable kind, you have to look to someone who says "they are poisoning our blood" - a direct quote from the Nazis and something derived from the Alhambra Decree in medieval Spain.

Racism at Trump's level is a sickness, a cancer and the hypocrisy of an anti-immigration person who himself is the child of immigrants and married to immigrants is laughable.

raumdeuter:
What is the legal punishment for military sedition

Let me put it back to you to answer.

What’s the penalty for military sedition by civilians?

Let’s see which persons head is corr—ect. You or that of your lord and personal savior.

DeepSight:
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Trump is plainly evil.
There is a lot that I dont like about liberal stances - particularly things like transgenderism especially when it is taken to absurd heights such as saying that children can choose to change their sex, saying that there are over a hundred sexes and not two, allowing men to compete in female sports, and the like. All of these are moral and ethical abominations.

But for sheer evil, sheer corruption, sheer manipulation of the worst kind, sheer racism of the most abominable kind, you have to look to someone who says "they are poisoning our blood" - a direct quote from the Nazis and something derived from the Alhambra Decree in medieval Spain.

Racism at Trump's level is a sickness, a cancer and the hypocrisy of an anti-immigration person who himself is the child of immigrants and married to immigrants is laughable.

He is an American first. If all leaders cared about their countries first before anything else , the world would be better.
Venezuela for instance , one of the richest countries in that part decided to go socialist. Why waste money on prisons when they can send their convicts Northwards ?
Mexico also for that matter. Everyone knows it but Trump was the first to say it loudly They are not sending their best.
Call him.a racist ,but leaders should fix their own nations instead .

Don't forget Trump is the most lied about, most scrutinized and most persecuted president in history. With an industrial scale network doing everything to take him down. Starting from the Democrats to republicans ,the forces ganged up against him have thrown everything they can to get rid of him. The media is the worst cog in that wheel
I see him from that angle.
You believe his haters more,you don't seem aware that you are just a tiny dispensable foot soldier to them. I believe his haters are dastardly evil people who seek to gain and control power by all means..Trump stands in their quest to control trillions of dollars. One day ,you will understand that, hopefully.
That's the difference between me and you

basilico:
He is an American first. If all leaders cared about their countries first before anything else , the world would be better.
Venezuela for instance , one of the richest countries in that part decided to go socialist. Why waste money on prisons when they can send their convicts Northwards ?
Mexico also for that matter. Everyone knows it but Trump was the first to say it loudly They are not sending their best.
Call him.a racist ,but leaders should fix their own nations instead .

Don't forget Trump is the most lied about, most scrutinized and most persecuted president in history. With an industrial scale network doing everything to take him down. Starting from the Democrats to republicans ,the forces ganged up against him have thrown everything they can to get rid of him. The media is the worst cog in that wheel
I see him from that angle.
You believe his haters more,you don't look aware that you are just a tiny dispensable foot soldier to them. I believe his haters are dastardly evil people who seek to gain and control power by all means..Trump stands in their way to control of trillions if dollars.
That's the difference between me and you

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1. You believe Trump cares about America - you do not know Trump at all. Trump has never cared about anyone or anything other than himself.

2. You believe Trump is the most lied about person. That is rich when he is easily the greatest liar in human history himself. The second is Meghan Markle.

3. You believe Trump is standing in the way of corrupt access to trillions of dollars. How funny when Trump is one of the most corrupt people of all time seeking trillions of dollars for himself and openly cutting corrupt and illegal deals and getting away with them like no one else. He is a notorious fraudster and con artist and you are here painting him as anti-corruption.

You simply dont know this man AT ALL and you have been greatly decieved.

It's absurd that educated people here think socialists give a damn about improving the lives of their governed.
The top leadership of every socialist, communist or Marxist rose to power promising to make lives cheaper , a utopia of equality. On attaining power they got rid of anyone in the middle class and above. They and their cronies got insanely wealthy controlling what trickles down to the civilians.
Mamdani is on there for himself and his cronies for example.

DeepSight:
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1. You believe Trump cares about America - you do not know Trump at all. Trump has never cared about anyone or anything other than himself.

2. You believe Trump is the most lied about person. That is rich when he is easily the greatest liar in human history himself. The second is Meghan Markle.

3. You believe Trump is standing in the way of corrupt access to trillions of dollars. How funny when Trump is one of the most corrupt people of all time seeking trillions of dollars for himself and openly cutting corrupt and illegal deals and getting away with them like no one else. He is a notorious fraudster and con artist and you are here painting him as anti-corruption.

You simply dont know this man AT ALL and you have been greatly decieved.

Taking points prepared for the foot soldiers.
What major lie from Trump compares to "you can keep your doctor" or that ISIS is a JV team or that Saddam has WMDs.
How corrupt is a person who left the white house poorer than he entered? He gets paid a symbollic dollar.

Everyone cares for himself , he promotes America first because he makes more money when the economy is booming.

cococandy:
A bunch of mentally unwell people supporting a pdf file, claiming victimhood and then crying about how anyone who doesn’t support their pdf file in chief has derangement syndrome. Totally bonkers.

Worked for the pdfile in chief

basilico:
Taking points prepared for the foot soldiers.
What major lie from Trump compares to "you can keep your doctor" or that ISIS is a JV team?
How corrupt is a person who left the white house poorer than he entered? He gets paid a symbollic dollar.

Everyone cares for himself , he promotes America first because he makes more money when the economy is booming.

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It is rather you that say things that sound like a cult-follower or footsoldier.

I repeat, I can list the atrocities of the left, especially the Clintons and Obama.

Their hopeless and corrupt wars.

Their backdoor deals.

Their focus on absurdities (Obama went to Kenya and focused on lecturing a poor country on gay rights. He was correctly and publicly turned down by the President of Kenya who lectured him on the more important challenges of poor countries).

You, by contrast, watch a zillion lies (no one has told the thousands of lies Trump has), the reckless acts, the frauds, the racist words and acts of Trump, and turn a blind eye.

I don't do that even for those I support.

GloriousGbola:
Worked for the pdfile in chief

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As for the true and full story of that assassination attempt, I believe it will one day emerge as history trundles along.

DeepSight:
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It is rather you that say things that sound like a cult-follower or footsoldier.

I repeat, I can list the atrocities of the left, especially the Clintons and Obama.

Their hopeless and corrupt wars.

Their backdoor deals.

Their focus on absurdities (Obama went to Kenya and focused on lecturing a poor country on gay rights. He was correctly and publicly turned down by the President of Kenya who lectured him on the more important challenges of poor countries).

You, by contrast, watch a zillion lies (no one has told the thousands of lies Trump has), the reckless acts, the frauds, the racist words and acts of Trump, and turn a blind eye.

I don't do that even for those I support.

Be specific. Which lie ranks the highest. Top two lies. Only.

DeepSight:
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Huh? Worshipping the Christian God did that for them? The same Christian God they used to justify slavery? Please look for other reasons for that prosperity such as guns and diseases, or even the renaissance and the enlightenment.

Stop the cap!!!
The God of their forefathers (Yahweh) , whom they served help them create the greatest civilization ( defense, finance, medical advancement, administration, government).
The American government and constitution were written by men who knew the Bible and their morals were drawn from the Bible, Isaiah 33:22,
For the LORD is our judge(Judiciary), the LORD is our lawgiver(legislature), the LORD is our king(Executive)"; it is he who will save us.
As regards "slavery" all civilization on earth participated in slavery untill the "Christian Civilization"abolished it and actually put assets and men on the sea to put an end to transatlantic slavery. America actually fought a civil war to end slavery, by men who from the Bible understood that all men are created in God's image, so what are you saying
Btw, kindly help us with the Bible verse used to defend slavery!!!!!

basilico:
Be specific. Which lie ranks the highest. Top two lies. Only.

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Among tens of thousands of lies from a man who lies at a rate of scores of lies per day, I should pick two?

You can't be serious.

DeepSight:
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As for the true and full story of that assassination attempt, I believe it will one day emerge as history trundles along.

By then they’ll pretend to have forgotten they blamed it one dems. Even when it’s clear to any discerning observer that it was all machinations from their own people

GloriousGbola:
Worked for the pdfile in chief

The pedeyfile and his magic ear

kentebemoney:
Btw, kindly help us with the Bible verse used to defend slavery!!!!!

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Really? Alright.

Leviticus 25:44-46 "As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations that are around you that you may buy male and female slaves. You may also buy from among the permanent residents who live with you, and from their clans that are with you, who have borne children in your land; and they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, to inherit as property; you can make them perpetual slaves."

Ephesians 6:5 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ;"

Colossians 3:22 "Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord."

And there are more.

DeepSight:
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Among tens of thousands of lies from a man who lies at a rate of scores of lies per day, I should pick two?

You can't be serious.

No specific lie from Trump you can think of that affected the population is my conclusion.
Just today , you resorted to generalization of the 12 disciples of Jesus manner,place and reasons cruel deaths were netted into them.

cococandy:
The pedeyfile and his magic ear

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Babanla magic ear with astonishing healing powers.

basilico:
No specific lie from Trump you can think of that affected the population is my conclusion.

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Why are you introducing the bold qualification. There are by the way, many.
Its not as though you will agree anyway, no matter how obvious.

Just today , you resorted to generalization of the 12 disciples of Jesus manner,place and reasons cruel deaths were netted into them.

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Did you even cite any source for your claims about how each apostle died?
I told you many of those are unsubstantiated, and thats a fact. Dont take my word for it, research.

DeepSight:
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Really? Alright.

Leviticus 25:44-46 "As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations that are around you that you may buy male and female slaves. You may also buy from among the permanent residents who live with you, and from their clans that are with you, who have borne children in your land; and they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, to inherit as property; you can make them perpetual slaves."

Ephesians 6:5 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ;"

Colossians 3:22 "Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord."

And there are more.

Jesus summarized the old testament into two verses.
Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments".

Or
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets" (Matthew 7:12).

I guarantee you those verses don't justify slavery.

DeepSight:
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Why are you introducing the bold qualification. There are by the way, many.
Its not as though you will agree anyway, no matter how obvious.


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Did you even cite any source for your claims about how each apostle died?
I told you many of those are unsubstantiated, and thats a fact. Dont take my word for it, research.

What's your version?
That's all I'm asking. Why should I believe you that they are unsubstantiated?

basilico:
Jesus summarized the old testament into two verses.
Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments".

Or
"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets" (Matthew 7:12).

I guarantee you those verses don't justify slavery.

Lol.

Its written there in black and white.

You cant unwrite it.

This is why I dont have the energy to start listing Trump's lies when you will ignore the obvious.

Look at those plain verses and look at how you are denying them.

How will you not do the same thing with Trump's lies.

ABEG.

Good morning.

DeepSight:
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Really? Alright.

Leviticus 25:44-46 "As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations that are around you that you may buy male and female slaves. You may also buy from among the permanent residents who live with you, and from their clans that are with you, who have borne children in your land; and they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, to inherit as property; you can make them perpetual slaves."

Ephesians 6:5 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ;"

Colossians 3:22 "Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord."

And there are more.

I see you avoided those other points.
Ever heard of John Newton and William Wilberforce.
As an agnostic, you can't know the scriptures more than a true believer that seeks God in truth and in spirit (the letter kills, the spirit giveth life).

DeepSight:
Lol.

Its written there in black and white.

You cant unwrite it.

This is why I dont have the energy to start listing Trump's lies when you will ignore the obvious.

Look at those plain verses and look at how you are denying them.

How will you not do the same thing with Trump's lies.

ABEG.

Good morning.

I've not doubted, it's written in white and black.
As a Christian I should follow the laws summarized by Jesus. Not the Mosaic laws.

As for Trump ,I only wanted his major lies.

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Trump has been telling Republicans that democrats want all republicans out of the way. Trump is the one singular person blocking them .

Jack Smith was investigating at least 430 Republicans. Including TPUSA.

If Kamala had won , many Republicans would have been jailed by now. Starting with Trump getting over 600 years.

basilico:
I've not doubted, it's written in white and black.
As a Christian I should follow the laws summarized by Jesus. Not the Mosaic laws.

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But he said he came to fulfill the law and not abolish it and secondly two of the verses I gave you are New Testament verses.

As for Trump ,I only wanted his major lies.

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You will denounce them.
I can start from anywhere, but what would you say about the birther conspiracy he initiated against Barack. What about "they are eating the dogs they are eating the cats?" What about his campaign against the New York Five? What about his lies about the size of his inauguration crowd? What about his lies about white genocide in South Africa? What about his lies about his personal wealth?

I can literally list hundreds of his lies. I can go on and on all day, but there is no point. You will deny each and every one of them no matter how obvious.
Because you dont have an objective bone in you.

kentebemoney:
Stop the cap!!!
The God of their forefathers (Yahweh) , whom they served help them create the greatest civilization ( defense, finance, medical advancement, administration, government).
The American government and constitution were written by men who knew the Bible and their morals were drawn from the Bible, Isaiah 33:22,
For the LORD is our judge(Judiciary), the LORD is our lawgiver(legislature), the LORD is our king(Executive)"; it is he who will save us.
As regards "slavery" all civilization on earth participated in slavery untill the "Christian Civilization"abolished it and actually put assets and men on the sea to put an end to transatlantic slavery. America actually fought a civil war to end slavery, by men who from the Bible understood that all men are created in God's image, so what are you saying
Btw, kindly help us with the Bible verse used to defend slavery!!!!!

A breath of fresh air!

ono:
A breath of fresh air!

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And what is this - - ?

He asked for bible verses used to defend slavery?

I provided.

You pretend not to see them?

DeepSight:
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Really? Alright.

Leviticus 25:44-46 "As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations that are around you that you may buy male and female slaves. You may also buy from among the permanent residents who live with you, and from their clans that are with you, who have borne children in your land; and they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, to inherit as property; you can make them perpetual slaves."

Ephesians 6:5 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ;"

Colossians 3:22 "Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord."

And there are more.

kentebemoney:
I see you avoided those other points.
Ever heard of John Newton and William Wilberforce.
As an agnostic, you can't know the scriptures more than a true believer that seeks God in truth and in spirit (the letter kills, the spirit giveth life).

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I am not avoiding anything, those are matters of history we can come to.
You asked me a specific question on verses used to defend slavery.

I provided them.

Do you now what to ignore what you yourself demanded?
If so, why bother asking for the verses only to point blank pretend they dont exist?

PS: Oh, many atheists and agnostics have actually read the bible over and over which is more than can be said for most believers. For example, if you had read the bible back to back, you would not have to ask me for the verses that support slavery.