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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:33pm On Nov 21, 2025
ono:
Civil discourse without recourse to abusive words is the right way to go. Going emotional and using abusive words will always stifle and impede ones ability to articulate his or her points. In that regards, I applaud Seun and his tech guys for doing their best to restore sanity on the board.

When I joined Nairaland back in 2005, the crop of people I exchanged ideas and argued with were sane, respectful and decent set of people. When I started reading vulgar and repulsive comments from the likes of obrig and others, I knew Seun must be alerted to do something. Thank God he did.
You know leftists are not very stable so if you notice its mostly them using abusive langauges
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:33pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
No it wasn't, and saying it was shows your lack of historical knowledge.

Britain and the West was in the age of darkness until they abandon the Roman God of the Catholic Church and entered the age of enlightenment, during which we stopped believing what we'd been told to and started to use our own senses to investigate the world and the universe.
I would assume that you don't believe a superior being created the human race.
That we evolved somehow from zinjanthropus, or (is it Australopithecus) to homo habilis to homo erectus and to home sapiens .
That the world is constantly evolving Is there any other independent human race that has emerged genetically since then from the ape kingdom.
Or maybe in a few million years there will emerge an entire human race.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:33pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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The word "God" often presents us with difficulties. I understand you are referring to the many man made ideas of God.

But I was referring to whatever is at the root of all reality by whatever name described.
We do not need to call "whatever is at the root of all reality" god, as that implies a god is at the root of reality, when reality itself shows thousands of gods have been at different peoples' realities at different periods in time.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/4260792/graveyard-dead-gods

https://www.nairaland.com/7707569/how-gods-made
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:33pm On Nov 21, 2025
basilico:
September 2025 job report.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
The US added 119,000 jobs in September, far more than the 53,000 economists expected, and unemployment unexpectedly increased to 4.4% from 4.3%.” President Trump’s immigration enforcement continues to capture and remove illegal alien workers from the U.S. economy. This is also driving up domestic wages.
ramdeuter.
The liberal media is silent now
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:42pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
We do not need to call "whatever is at the root of all reality" god, as that implies a god is at the root of reality, when reality itself shows thousands of gods have been at different peoples' realities at different periods in time.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/4260792/graveyard-dead-gods

https://www.nairaland.com/7707569/how-gods-made
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Nah you are getting it wrong. What you are doing is like equating imaginary gods to something like whatever caused the big bang, just as an analogy.

If there is something at the root of reality, it cannot have been created by mere men who only began to exist yesterday.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:47pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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Nah you are getting it wrong. What you are doing is like equating imaginary gods to something like whatever caused the big bang, just as an analogy.

If there is something at the root of reality, it cannot have been created by mere men who only began to exist yesterday.
All gods are imaginary and made up by those who wrote books or preached about them.

Not one single god referenced in my exhaustive list of dead gods ever really existed, and the fact that humans are ignorant about a universe that is billions of years old does not mean some god or entity must be behind its existence or caused a big bang.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:50pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
All gods are imaginary and made up by those who wrote books or preached about them.

Not one single god referenced in my exhaustive list of dead gods ever really existed, and the fact that humans are ignorant about a universe that is billions of years old does not mean some god or entity must be behind its existence or caused a big bang.
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I dont know how to explain to you that I am not referring to any man made or man imagined god.
Maybe if I used the word "source" or "cause" your erection will go down.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:59pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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I dont know how to explain to you that I am not referring to any man made or man imagined god.
Maybe if I used the word "source" or "cause" your erection will go down.
Why must you be so offended by my opinion that you have to presume an erection?

Your use of the words "source" or "cause", already implies you mean some sort of entity, but there's no evidence whatsoever for one, and its like claiming there's a source or entity behind a hurricane when hurricanes can be explained without placing an entity as it's "source" or "cause".

All "sources or causes", including the big bang, are mere human speculations to explain things we have limited knowledge about.

Basically, its gap filling.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:01pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
Why must you be so offended by my opinion that you have to presume an erection?

Your use of the words "source" or "cause", already implies you mean some sort of entity, but there's no evidence whatsoever for one, and its like claiming there's a source or entity behind a hurricane when hurricanes can be explained without placing an entity as it's "source" or "cause".

All "sources or causes", including the big bang, are mere human speculations to explain things we have limited knowledge about.

Basically, its gap filling.
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I really dont know what else to say to you. I would have tried to pacify you with another word such as "force" or "element" or others.
But it looks like your erection will only go down if one says "the nothingness" . . . .

Sorry, I dont agree with you that reality has no cause or source.
Thats all I can say.

And no, I am not offended.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:09pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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I really dont know what else to say to you. I would have tried to pacify you with another word such as "force" or "element" or others.
But it looks like your erection will only go down if one says "the nothingness" . . . .

Sorry, I dont agree with you that reality has no cause or source.
Thats all I can say.

And no, I am not offended.
The universe must obviously have a cause, since you can't after all have nothing go bang, but calling it a god, or hiding that cause behind your erection is just plain untrue and lazy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:28pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
The universe must obviously have a cause, since you can't after all have nothing go bang, but calling it a god, or hiding that cause behind your erection is just plain untrue and lazy.
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Cause is all I meant.
There we go, I hope your erection is over now.

I said in my very first reply that the word "god" causes problems, but you just would not stop.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Weregonnalose: 7:28pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
The universe must obviously have a cause, since you can't after all have nothing go bang, but calling it a god, or hiding that cause behind your erection is just plain untrue and lazy.
Kikikikikiki
Doneky
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Weregonnalose: 7:30pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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Cause is all I meant.
There we go, I hope your erection is over now.

I said in my very first reply that the word "god" causes problems, but you just would not stop.
Tha wordi god isa natti cause ah problem ye.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:32pm On Nov 21, 2025
Weregonnalose:
Tha wordi god isa natti cause ah problem ye.
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O yah, kikikikikikiki
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:33pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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Cause is all I meant.
There we go, I hope your erection is over now.

I said in my very first reply that the word "god" causes problems, but you just would not stop.
Like a "cause" that makes a river flow down a gully and not up a mountain?

Indeed the word "god" does appear to cause your erection, and you ought to avoid using it if your erection bothers you so much.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:35pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
Like a "cause" that makes a river flow down a gully and not up a mountain?

Indeed the word "god" does appear to cause your erection, and you ought to avoid using it if your erection bothers you so much.
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No thanks, you certainly CANNOT tell me what words to avoid and what not to.
You never know, they might just help my libido.

Sadly it appears any elementary discussion on existential cosmology is to be avoided with you as basic words and simple analogies are a difficulty.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:47pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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No thanks, you certainly CANNOT tell me what words to avoid and what not to.
You never know, they might just help my libido.

Sadly it appears any elementary discussion on existential cosmology is to be avoided with you as basic words and simple analogies are a difficulty.
That "elementary discussion on existential cosmology" might be difficult for you because it seems to affect your libido. And if that's the case, then I must agree that you should avoid me.

I myself have no libidinal issues where cosmology is concerned, so I will not be avoiding you, thank you very much.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:49pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
That "elementary discussion on existential cosmology" might be difficult for you because it seems to affect your libido. And if that's the case, then I must agree that you should avoid me.

I myself have no libidinal issues where cosmology is concerned, so I will not be avoiding you, thank you very much.
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GOD EXISTS.
Good evening.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:08pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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GOD EXISTS.
Good evening.
GOD exists for you. And to be honest, I have no problem with that, unless you are claiming your GOD must exist for me without showing me that GOD. For that would be like you telling me I have a million pounds that I have no evidence of owning.

Good evening to you too Sir.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 8:10pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
GOD exists for you. And to be honest, I have no problem with that, unless you are claiming your GOD must exist for me without showing me that GOD. For that would be like you telling me I have a million pounds that I have no evidence of owning.

Good evening to you too Sir.
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When have I forced ITS existence on you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:14pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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When have I forced ITS existence on you?
Insisting GOD exists, as you do, is like asking me to accept the existence of your GOD, especially when you claim your GOD is the cause of the universe and reality.

Personally, I think your GOD is a figment of your imagination. And ITS effect on your libido amuses me no end.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Weregonnalose: 8:16pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
Insisting GOD exists, as you do, is like asking me to accept the existence of your GOD, especially when you claim your GOD is the cause of the universe and reality.

Personally, I think your GOD is a figment of your imagination. And ITS effect on your libido amuses me no end.
Kikikikiki
Doneky ye. Kikikikikikiki
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 8:17pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
Insisting GOD exists, as you do, is like asking me to accept the existence of your GOD, especially when you claim your GOD is the cause of the universe and reality.

Personally, I think your GOD is a figment of your imagination. And ITS effect on your libido amuses me no end.
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My statement that a source of reality (what I call GOD, necessarily exists is not for you. It's a general statement. Stop personalising it to you. You are a stranger I don't know and you have no meaning or relevance to my life, mind or thoughts, as must be the case vice versa.

I am one who prefers advanced nuanced conversations on existential matters and I am tired already of having to touch on them with you.

Make of it what you will. Your beliefs and convictions are yours alone, as mine are mine alone and same with everyone else.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Weregonnalose: 8:22pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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My statement that a source of reality (what I call GOD, necessarily exists is not for you. It's a general statement. Stop personalising it to you. You are a stranger I don't know and you have no meaning or relevance to my life, mind or thoughts, as must be the case vice versa.

I am one who prefers advanced nuanced conversations on existential matters and I am tired already of having to touch on them with you.

Make of it what you will. Your beliefs and convictions are yours alone, as mine are mine alone and same with everyone else.
Kikikikikiki tha onlis things holden ya to ah geda isa tha trump hating ye. Kikikiki ya ah fighti ifi tha Republicans Isa nat ina tha eqacion ye.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:26pm On Nov 21, 2025
Pentagon Spox responds to NBC story about a lawyer disagreeing with the legality of narco strikes.
NBC six sources reports.
EXCLUSIVE: A lawyer at U.S. Southern Command, which oversees the strikes against alleged drug-smuggling boats near Venezuela, disagreed with the Trump administration’s position that the operations are lawful and was overruled, according to six sources.The senior military lawyer for the combatant command overseeing lethal strikes on alleged drug-smuggling boats near Venezuela disagreed with the Trump administration’s position that the operations are lawful — and his views were sidelined, according to six sources with knowledge of the legal advice.

The lawyer, who serves as the senior judge advocate general, or JAG in military parlance, at U.S. Southern Command in Miami, raised his legal concerns in August before the strikes began in September, according to two senior U.S. officials, two senior congressional aides and two former senior U.S. officials.

His opinion was ultimately overruled by more senior government officials, including officials at the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, the six sources said


Pentagon Spox response.
It's high time media journalists get indicted.
Hiding behind sources is not journalism unless they are pretty sure

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:27pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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My statement that a source of reality (what I call GOD, necessarily exists is not for you. It's a general statement. Stop personalising it to you. You are a stranger I don't know and you have no meaning or relevance to my life, mind or thoughts, as must be the case vice versa.

I am one who prefers advanced nuanced conversations on existential matters and I am tired already of having to touch on them with you.

Make of it what you will. Your beliefs and convictions are yours alone, as mine are mine alone and same with everyone else.
All statements made on Nairaland are not personal, and are general statements that anyone can comment on. You however made it personal when you attached it to one's pant content, which in my opinion shows you have no preference for "advanced nuanced conversations on existential matters", as you claim.

That however is beside the point. Perhaps follow your own advise and don't let my opinion, or "beliefs and convictions" offend you so, since, according to you, I have no "meaning or relevance to my your life, mind or thoughts".
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 8:30pm On Nov 21, 2025
budaatum:
All statements made on Nairaland are not personal, and are general statements that anyone can comment on. You however made it personal when you attached it to one's pant content, which in my opinion shows you have no preference for "advanced nuanced conversations on existential matters", as you claim.

That however is beside the point. Perhaps follow your own advise and don't let my opinion, or "beliefs and convictions" offend you so, since, according to you, I have no "meaning or relevance to my your life, mind or thoughts".
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I was not offended in the least. There are over 3 million people on this site. My statement is not for you personally. Get off your self absorption. So you think you are important enough for me to try to convince of anything?

Please stop wasting my time and eyesight with nursery school talk.

Good night.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 8:38pm On Nov 21, 2025
raumdeuter:
Trump tariff which he has used to re negotiated trade deals with many of our trade partners yet the indices and at all time highs 6 months later despite your doomsday outlook

Show us a screenshot of your shameful post that day again to show where TDS took you to


And missed out on PROSPERITY
Olodo. You are trying to paint Dump's backing out of the TACO disaster as a win. I pity you and your family.

You don't even know why there was not a recession. You actually attribute it to something with trade deals.

Tell me one single trade deal you know that has led to the boom in the market, or a reversal of a recession assist from walking back the China tariff war...... Gone on. Tell us. Tell me one single deal that has already morphed into GDP output.

You are a tool. You don't know anything. 80% of all gains on the S&P50 this year, is tied to AI only. As a matter of fact, only 7 companies. Not a single one of these companies has made profit. These companies are manufacturing growth figures through circular financing, and creating an overall illusion of growth in the market.

This is the first time in very long history where combined Tech companies' spend outstrips Consumer Spending as the flagship index of GDP.

NVIDIA alone as at yesterday was worth over 16% of the US GDP. 16 phucking percent. One company.

These companies, collectively, as yet, have no pathway to profitability. Not one single AI company has made a single dollar in profit this year, or ever. But they continue to report artificial growth figures, then speculators bet on their anticipated growth as a result, pushing the stock market to dangerous new highs.

As if circular financing was not bad enough, companies like OpenAI are leveraging future and current Chips (already partly paid for by NVIDIA) to obtain loans, and committing to $1trn dollars in infrastructure spending this year alone. This is a company that made only $12bn in revenue with no single profit. Who's paying for that? Banks! Same banks that are holding your "PROSPERITY" dollars.

You have no idea the magnitude of shitfall you are supporting. Olodo really actually thinks Trump leveraged some stoooupid tariff war to grow the economy.

Dey dere dry ask me for screenshot. You better convert much of your dollars to Naira whilst you still can.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:40pm On Nov 21, 2025
DeepSight:
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I was not offended in the least. There are over 3 million people on this site. My statement is not for you personally. Get off your self absorption. So you think you are important enough for me to try to convince of anything?

Please stop wasting my time and eyesight with nursery school talk.

Good night.
I kind of love the control I seem to have over your time and your eyesight that makes you incapable of not reading what I write or responding to it. Kind of shows I must be important to you, don't you think?

The night is still young, so we've likely only just begun. Good evening to you Sir.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:45pm On Nov 21, 2025
nateevs:
Olodo. You are trying to paint Dump's backing out of the TACO disaster as a win. I pity you and your family.

You don't even know why there was not a recession. You actually attribute it to something with trade deals.

Tell me one single trade deal you know that has led to the boom in the market, or a reversal of a recession assist from walking back the China tariff war...... Gone on. Tell us. Tell me one single deal that has already morphed into GDP output.

You are a tool. You don't know anything. 80% of all gains on the S&P50 this year, is tied to AI only. As a matter of fact, only 7 companies. Not a single one of these companies has made profit. These companies are manufacturing growth figures through circular financing, and creating an overall illusion of growth in the market.

This is the first time in very long history where combined Tech companies' spend outstrips Consumer Spending as the flagship index of GDP.

NVIDIA alone as at yesterday was worth over 16% of the US GDP. 16 phucking percent. One company.

These companies, collectively, as yet, have no pathway to profitability. Not one single AI company has made a single dollar in profit this year, or ever. But they continue to report artificial growth figures, then speculators bet on their anticipated growth as a result, pushing the stock market to dangerous new highs.

As if circular financing was not bad enough, companies like OpenAI are leveraging future and current Chips (already partly paid for by NVIDIA) to obtain loans, and committing to $1trn dollars in infrastructure spending this year alone. This is a company that made only $12bn in revenue with no single profit. Who's paying for that? Banks! Same banks that are holding your "PROSPERITY" dollars.

You have no idea the magnitude of shitfall you are supporting. Olodo really actually thinks Trump leveraged some stoooupid tariff war to grow the economy.

Dey dere dry ask me for screenshot. You better convert much of your dollars to Naira whilst you still can.
You are still here crying, The severe TDS has turned you into an emotional mess

Trump used the tariff to re-negotiate trade deals to favor the US which your UK, EU and several trade partners have jumped onto and renegotiated favourable deals with the US

which is why the EU and UK citizens are crying. Instead of admitting you are wrong you keep whining, twiting nd turning

The best way to deal with you is when it costs you money

So once again dont pretend not to see this

Trump will not be in the white house by February 2029 as president, $1,000 bet, If you want, we can Up it to $5,000

Take the deal lets sign it and dont be a coward

DEAL?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Unlimited22: 10:02pm On Nov 21, 2025
Omo mehn.

Sad to see what politics turns intelligent people into.
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