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Fenrir:
Im Norwegian and an ex British Royal Marine dont talk to me about terrorism if your government gave me permission and equipment they would be gone

Stop complaining about one law while you break and abuse the rest

Stick to the topic. People break laws everywhere, it's the duty of the state to enforce laws. Terrorism and kidnapping by jihadists bandits bokoharam and iswap, in cohoot with the fulani militia is the problem of Nigeria. Not about breaking traffic laws etc...

Anither563:
The Federal Government is already doing a great job arming the military and police. The governors should focus on providing the needed support for the security agencies and our laws don't allow them to directly arm anyone.

Yes our law doesn't allow them to directly arm anyone, yet the same law the criminals are manipulating to wreck havoc on innocent citizens. If we're practicing true federalism each state and governor supposed and should have power to setup security structure to protect its and his people or why are they called chief security officer of their states and are collecting humongous security votes.

With the security condition of this country now,we can't rely solely on fg for our protection.

dederocs:
Stick to the topic. People break laws everywhere, it's the duty of the state to enforce laws. Terrorism and kidnapping by jihadists bandits bokoharam and iswap, in cohoot with the fulani militia is the problem of Nigeria. Not about breaking traffic laws etc...

No actually, in my culture back home people can leave the front doors of their home open and go out knowing everything is fine

Norway is in the top 5 countries in the world for law and order, almost zero corruption

Nigeria is 140-180 corruption, crime and rape everywhere especially in the Yoruba communities so do not lecture me about nonsense you know nothing about and the difference im willing to fight for my country and yours but all you do is sit on your backside complaining. Does anything like this actually happen in civilised countries? Or just countries like this where the government only steals from the population?

Guestmale:
Yes our law doesn't allow them to directly arm anyone, yet the same law the criminals are manipulating to wreck havoc on innocent citizens. If we're practicing true federalism each state and governor supposed and should have power to setup security structure to protect its and his people or why are they called chief security officer of their states and are collecting humongous security votes.

With the security condition of this country now,we can't rely solely on fg for our protection.

Hypocrites
Where is the care for the law in weddings? And rape? And marital rape? And fraud? Etc. I have no sympathy for you its entirely your own fault. You dont obey laws in your day to day lives so you dont deserve legal protection now.

Fenrir:
No actually, in my culture back home people can leave the front doors of their home open and go out knowing everything is fine

Norway is in the top 5 countries in the world for law and order, almost zero corruption

Nigeria is 140-180 corruption, crime and rape everywhere especially in the Yoruba communities so do not lecture me about nonsense you know nothing about and the difference im willing to fight for my country and yours but all you do is sit on your backside complaining. Does anything like this actually happen in civilised countries? Or just countries like this where the government only steals from the population?

Are you a black Norwegian?

dederocs:
Are you a black Norwegian?

Im not black at all,
Im Norwegian/Swedish/Danish by blood

And you people here confuse nationality, race and ethnicity

My nationality is Norwegian
My race is white
But my ethnicity is my clan the same way that your ethnicity is your tribe but your nationality is Nigerian and your race is African not black

But technically there can be black Norwegians because where you are born is your nationality if that country has birth rights like America does

Luckily Norway, Sweden and Denmark dont allow that. A friend from ilorin just had her baby in Sweden 😂 she was devastated that her baby will not get a Swedish passport. Both the parents are Nigerian so no citizenship rights since the husband is just working there but if she had married a Swedish man the baby would have automatic citizenship like my daughter with Norwegian and Nigerian citizenship. You people need to learn the laws before going to other countries like we do. Culture and traditions are optional worldwide but law is mandatory.

Fenrir:
Im not black at all,
Im Norwegian/Swedish/Danish by blood

And you people here confuse nationality, race and ethnicity

My nationality is Norwegian
My race is white
But my ethnicity is my clan the same way that your ethnicity is your tribe but your nationality is Nigerian and your race is African not black

Okay, just wondering, nairaland is a local site, you seem to have an interest in Nigeria...I totally agree with some of your submissions, but there are still some very reasonable Nigerians, the problem is the political class.

dederocs:
Okay, just wondering, nairaland is a local site, you seem to have an interest in Nigeria...I totally agree with some of your submissions, but there are still some very reasonable Nigerians, the problem is the political class.

Because I live in Nigeria, my daughter is half yoruba from my first marriage and she died of cancer now im married to an igbo woman

And before you ask, no traditions either time and thats the law

Federal law = mandatory for everyone
State law = mandatory unless it conflicts with federal law

But customary law = irrelevant unless the COUPLE CHOOSE IT and what the family thinks doesn't matter the law is freedom to marry and freedom does not come with conditions from family however irrelevant does not = unimportant it just means its a choice of the couple not anyone else.


Your marriage and wedding laws that none of you know or care about.

The laws of marriage and weddings in Nigeria THE TRUTH

⚖️ LEGAL RIGHT TO MARRY FREELY IN NIGERIA
(Applies equally to Nigerians and Foreigners)
1️⃣ The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (1999, as amended)
Section 34(1): Dignity of Human Person

“Every individual is entitled to respect for the dignity of his person…”

Explanation:
No one may be forced into marriage or compelled to perform any traditional, cultural, or religious rite. Forcing a person to comply with customs (like bride price or family approval) violates dignity and autonomy.

Section 35(1): Right to Personal Liberty

“Every person shall be entitled to his personal liberty…”

Explanation:
Marriage is a matter of free personal choice. Neither families nor communities have lawful power to impose cultural or religious obligations on adults who freely consent to marry.

Section 37: Right to Private and Family Life

“The privacy of citizens, their homes… is hereby guaranteed and protected.”

Explanation:
Marriage decisions are private matters. Family or cultural intrusion in the couple’s private marital decisions is unconstitutional.

Section 38(1): Freedom of Thought, Conscience and Religion

“Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion…”

Explanation:
A couple may freely decide to marry under religion, custom, the statutory (civil) system, or a combination — or to reject all religious and traditional rites entirely.

Section 42(1): Freedom from Discrimination

“A citizen of Nigeria… shall not… be subjected to any form of discrimination…”

Explanation:
Families, communities, or institutions cannot impose traditions or rites based on tribe, gender, or religion as a condition for marriage. The same protection extends to foreign spouses through the equality and human-rights provisions.

2️⃣ The Marriage Act (Cap M6 LFN 2004)
Section 7 — Notice of Marriage

“Whenever any persons desire to marry, one of the parties shall sign and give to the registrar…”

Explanation:
Marriage under the Act begins solely by the couple’s own decision. The Act does not require family consent, traditional introductions, or any cultural rite.

Section 11(1) — Conditions for Certificate

“The registrar shall issue his certificate… upon being satisfied that each party is of full age and has freely consented…”

Explanation:
The only required consent is the couple’s. Once both are of full age, no family or traditional approval is legally necessary.

Section 34 — Legal Validity of Marriage

“All marriages celebrated under this Act shall be good and valid in law to all intents and purposes.”

Explanation:
Once the statutory process is completed, the marriage is fully valid nationwide — even if no traditional rites were done.

Section 41 — Preventing Marriage Under False Pretence

“Whoever endeavours to prevent a marriage by pretence that his consent is required by law… shall be guilty of an offence.”

Explanation:
Families or community members who try to stop a lawful marriage by claiming their consent or cultural approval is required are breaking the law.

3️⃣ Customary Law and Its Limitations
Recognition under Section 35 of the Marriage Act

“Nothing in this Act shall affect the validity of any marriage contracted under or in accordance with any customary law…”

Explanation:
Customary marriages are valid only if voluntarily entered into and consistent with the Constitution. Coercive or discriminatory customs are void.

Evidence Act 2011, Section 18(3) — Repugnancy Clause

“In any judicial proceeding where a custom is relied upon, it shall not be enforced if it is repugnant to natural justice, equity, and good conscience, or incompatible… with any law for the time being in force.”

Explanation:
No custom that violates equality, liberty, or dignity can be enforced — including customs that force bride price, introductions, or family control.

🔹 3B. Bride Price, Introduction, and Family Consent — Not Legally Required
(a) Statutory Freedom to Marry Without Tradition

The Marriage Act governs statutory (civil and church) marriages. It makes no reference to bride price, introduction, or family approval.

Under Section 34, once the statutory procedure is followed, the marriage is “good and valid in law.”

Therefore, even if no bride price is paid, no family introduction held, or the families disapprove, the marriage remains fully legal.

(b) Constitutional and Human-Rights Protection

Sections 34, 35, and 38 of the Constitution guarantee dignity, liberty, and freedom of conscience.

Forcing or coercing a couple to perform cultural rites, or to pay a bride price, violates these rights.

The African Charter (Cap A9 LFN 2004), enforceable in Nigeria, also prohibits discrimination based on national origin or culture in matters of marriage (Articles 2, 6, and 18(3)).

(c) Customary Law and the Repugnancy Test

Courts recognise that bride price and “handing-over” are typical proof elements in customary marriages (e.g., Obi v. Bosah (2019)), but only when the couple choose customary marriage.

When a couple marry under the Marriage Act, none of those customary elements are required.

Even within customary law, any rule that forces a bride price or family approval can be struck down under Section 18(3) of the Evidence Act as “repugnant to natural justice.”

(d) Judicial Confirmation of Freedom and Consent

Osamwonyi v. Osamwonyi (1972) – Consent is the foundation of all marriages.

Agbeja v. Agbeja (1985) – Customary marriage must be voluntary.

Mojekwu v. Mojekwu (1997) – Discriminatory or oppressive customs are void.

Obi v. Bosah (2019) – Bride price and handing-over define a customary marriage, not a legal or mandatory one.

(e) Legal Result

Bride price, introduction, or family consent are purely cultural — never legal — requirements.
Couples may lawfully reject them and marry under the Marriage Act or any other voluntary system.
Any person who attempts to compel them commits an offence under Section 41 of the Marriage Act and violates the Constitution.

(f) Even in Traditional Marriages, Specific Rituals Like Prostration or Kneeling Can Be Rejected

Relevant Laws and Principles:

Constitution Section 34(1) — Dignity of the Human Person

Any act that humiliates or degrades either spouse (e.g., forced prostration, kneeling, or other imposed gestures) violates this constitutional right.

Courts recognise that dignity and personal autonomy cannot be surrendered to culture.

Evidence Act Section 18(3) — Repugnancy Clause

Customs that compel a person to perform physical acts of submission or humiliation are repugnant to natural justice, equity, and good conscience and therefore unenforceable.

Even where a couple opt for a customary wedding, they may lawfully omit any ritual they find offensive or inconsistent with their beliefs.

Constitution Section 38(1) — Freedom of Conscience and Religion

A couple may object on conscience or religious grounds to any ritual gesture. Their decision is legally protected, and no family can lawfully insist otherwise.

Case Law Support

Mojekwu v. Mojekwu (1997) – Any custom that degrades or discriminates is unconstitutional.

Meribe v. Egwu (1976) – Consent, not ritual formality, determines validity.

Agbeja v. Agbeja (1985) – Customary marriages stand only where all acts are voluntary.

Practical Effect:

Even in a voluntary traditional marriage, no family, elder, or community leader has the legal power to compel a bride or groom to prostrate, kneel, bow, or perform any symbolic act against their will.
Refusal to perform such a gesture does not invalidate the marriage under any Nigerian law.
The essence of both statutory and customary marriage is mutual consent, not ritual form.

4️⃣ International Human Rights and Equality for All Persons
African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights (Cap A9 LFN 2004)

Article 2: Equal rights without distinction of race, national origin, or religion.

Article 6: Right to liberty and security of the person.

Article 18(3): State must eliminate discrimination and protect family rights.

Explanation:
Marriage freedom and equality extend to all persons within Nigeria, including foreigners. No one can be treated differently because of nationality or ethnicity.

5️⃣ Judicial Principles Supporting Freedom to Marry
Case Legal Rule Meaning
Osamwonyi v. Osamwonyi (1972) Consent is fundamental Marriage without free consent is void
Agbeja v. Agbeja (1985) Customary marriage must be voluntary No coercion or forced customs allowed
Mojekwu v. Mojekwu (1997) Discriminatory customs invalid Oppressive customs have no force
Obi v. Bosah (2019) Bride price/handing-over define customary marriage only Optional and cultural, not universal requirement
6️⃣ Summary — What the Law Means in Practice
Legal Source Applies To Legal Effect
Constitution (ss.34–38, 42) All persons Freedom, dignity, equality; no coercion or discrimination
Marriage Act (ss.7–41) All persons Marriage valid solely on couple’s consent; no tradition required
Evidence Act (s.18(3)) All customs Voids coercive or discriminatory traditions
African Charter (Cap A9) All persons in Nigeria Protects equality and freedom to marry
Case law All marriages Upholds consent; voids forced or oppressive customs
✅ FINAL LEGAL CONCLUSION

Under Nigerian law —
for all persons, whether both Nigerians or one foreign and one Nigerian:

Marriage is purely voluntary — only the couple’s consent matters.

The couple may freely choose the form (statutory, religious, customary, or combination).

Bride price, family introduction, and traditional rites are optional, not compulsory.

Even where a traditional ceremony is chosen, any specific ritual (such as prostration, kneeling, or symbolic acts) may be lawfully refused without invalidating the marriage.

No one (family, culture, or religion) may impose extra conditions or coercion.

Any attempt to force compliance with cultural or religious rites violates the Constitution (ss. 34–38), the Marriage Act (ss. 7–41), and the Evidence Act (s. 18(3)).

All couples — Nigerian or mixed nationality — share equal protection under law and international human-rights treaties.

dederocs:
Okay, just wondering, nairaland is a local site, you seem to have an interest in Nigeria...I totally agree with some of your submissions, but there are still some very reasonable Nigerians, the problem is the political class.

Hypocrite, screaming about law and order when you dont know the laws of your own country and only cherry-pick as it suits you. And no the problem are the citizens, how do you expect your government to be better than the families that raise them? A leader is only corrupt if that mindset was raised into him and the average Nigerian is not a good person, there are some good people but.....

Hausa = 30% of the population
Yoruba = 15% of the population
Igbo = 14.5% of the population

Thats 59.5% in just 3 tribes

Now you take bini as an example thats only 1.5% of the population and there are 367 other tribes at well under 1%

So hausa, Yoruba and igbo make up most of your government, police and military and basically all forms of authority and also most of "the runs girls" just from sheer numbers alone so those 3 tribes are the problem not the rest

Fella actually get off your ass and travel your country and see the truth, I have so whats your excuse? Its your country not mine

Go from tribe to tribe and see the difference in attitude! Do you ever hear the majority of the rest publicly abusing people over prostration, kneeling and wedding outfits? No most families just accept the bride price with a humble and grateful attitude because its a reasonable expectation but you say "no" to yoruba or hausa or igbo families and thats where the abuse and corruption comes from

Because the majority of those 3 tribes have no humility, no respect just a criminal and corrupt mindset most Nigerians that leave Nigeria are from those 3 tribes so thats where the worldwide reputation comes from since they are what the world sees

You hypocrite.

Fenrir:
Because I live in Nigeria, my daughter is half yoruba from my first marriage and she died of cancer now im married to an igbo woman

And before you ask, no traditions either time and thats the law

Federal law = mandatory for everyone
State law = mandatory unless it conflicts with federal law

But customary law = irrelevant unless the COUPLE CHOOSE IT and what the family thinks doesn't matter the law is freedom to marry and freedom does not come with conditions from family however irrelevant does not = unimportant it just means its a choice of the couple not anyone else.


Your marriage and wedding laws that none of you know or care about.

The laws of marriage and weddings in Nigeria THE TRUTH

⚖️ LEGAL RIGHT TO MARRY FREELY IN NIGERIA
(Applies equally to Nigerians and Foreigners)
1️⃣ The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (1999, as amended)
Section 34(1): Dignity of Human Person

“Every individual is entitled to respect for the dignity of his person…”

Explanation:
No one may be forced into marriage or compelled to perform any traditional, cultural, or religious rite. Forcing a person to comply with customs (like bride price or family approval) violates dignity and autonomy.

Section 35(1): Right to Personal Liberty

“Every person shall be entitled to his personal liberty…”

Explanation:
Marriage is a matter of free personal choice. Neither families nor communities have lawful power to impose cultural or religious obligations on adults who freely consent to marry.

Section 37: Right to Private and Family Life

“The privacy of citizens, their homes… is hereby guaranteed and protected.”

Explanation:
Marriage decisions are private matters. Family or cultural intrusion in the couple’s private marital decisions is unconstitutional.

Section 38(1): Freedom of Thought, Conscience and Religion

“Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion…”

Explanation:
A couple may freely decide to marry under religion, custom, the statutory (civil) system, or a combination — or to reject all religious and traditional rites entirely.

Section 42(1): Freedom from Discrimination

“A citizen of Nigeria… shall not… be subjected to any form of discrimination…”

Explanation:
Families, communities, or institutions cannot impose traditions or rites based on tribe, gender, or religion as a condition for marriage. The same protection extends to foreign spouses through the equality and human-rights provisions.

2️⃣ The Marriage Act (Cap M6 LFN 2004)
Section 7 — Notice of Marriage

“Whenever any persons desire to marry, one of the parties shall sign and give to the registrar…”

Explanation:
Marriage under the Act begins solely by the couple’s own decision. The Act does not require family consent, traditional introductions, or any cultural rite.

Section 11(1) — Conditions for Certificate

“The registrar shall issue his certificate… upon being satisfied that each party is of full age and has freely consented…”

Explanation:
The only required consent is the couple’s. Once both are of full age, no family or traditional approval is legally necessary.

Section 34 — Legal Validity of Marriage

“All marriages celebrated under this Act shall be good and valid in law to all intents and purposes.”

Explanation:
Once the statutory process is completed, the marriage is fully valid nationwide — even if no traditional rites were done.

Section 41 — Preventing Marriage Under False Pretence

“Whoever endeavours to prevent a marriage by pretence that his consent is required by law… shall be guilty of an offence.”

Explanation:
Families or community members who try to stop a lawful marriage by claiming their consent or cultural approval is required are breaking the law.

3️⃣ Customary Law and Its Limitations
Recognition under Section 35 of the Marriage Act

“Nothing in this Act shall affect the validity of any marriage contracted under or in accordance with any customary law…”

Explanation:
Customary marriages are valid only if voluntarily entered into and consistent with the Constitution. Coercive or discriminatory customs are void.

Evidence Act 2011, Section 18(3) — Repugnancy Clause

“In any judicial proceeding where a custom is relied upon, it shall not be enforced if it is repugnant to natural justice, equity, and good conscience, or incompatible… with any law for the time being in force.”

Explanation:
No custom that violates equality, liberty, or dignity can be enforced — including customs that force bride price, introductions, or family control.

🔹 3B. Bride Price, Introduction, and Family Consent — Not Legally Required
(a) Statutory Freedom to Marry Without Tradition

The Marriage Act governs statutory (civil and church) marriages. It makes no reference to bride price, introduction, or family approval.

Under Section 34, once the statutory procedure is followed, the marriage is “good and valid in law.”

Therefore, even if no bride price is paid, no family introduction held, or the families disapprove, the marriage remains fully legal.

(b) Constitutional and Human-Rights Protection

Sections 34, 35, and 38 of the Constitution guarantee dignity, liberty, and freedom of conscience.

Forcing or coercing a couple to perform cultural rites, or to pay a bride price, violates these rights.

The African Charter (Cap A9 LFN 2004), enforceable in Nigeria, also prohibits discrimination based on national origin or culture in matters of marriage (Articles 2, 6, and 18(3)).

(c) Customary Law and the Repugnancy Test

Courts recognise that bride price and “handing-over” are typical proof elements in customary marriages (e.g., Obi v. Bosah (2019)), but only when the couple choose customary marriage.

When a couple marry under the Marriage Act, none of those customary elements are required.

Even within customary law, any rule that forces a bride price or family approval can be struck down under Section 18(3) of the Evidence Act as “repugnant to natural justice.”

(d) Judicial Confirmation of Freedom and Consent

Osamwonyi v. Osamwonyi (1972) – Consent is the foundation of all marriages.

Agbeja v. Agbeja (1985) – Customary marriage must be voluntary.

Mojekwu v. Mojekwu (1997) – Discriminatory or oppressive customs are void.

Obi v. Bosah (2019) – Bride price and handing-over define a customary marriage, not a legal or mandatory one.

(e) Legal Result

Bride price, introduction, or family consent are purely cultural — never legal — requirements.
Couples may lawfully reject them and marry under the Marriage Act or any other voluntary system.
Any person who attempts to compel them commits an offence under Section 41 of the Marriage Act and violates the Constitution.

(f) Even in Traditional Marriages, Specific Rituals Like Prostration or Kneeling Can Be Rejected

Relevant Laws and Principles:

Constitution Section 34(1) — Dignity of the Human Person

Any act that humiliates or degrades either spouse (e.g., forced prostration, kneeling, or other imposed gestures) violates this constitutional right.

Courts recognise that dignity and personal autonomy cannot be surrendered to culture.

Evidence Act Section 18(3) — Repugnancy Clause

Customs that compel a person to perform physical acts of submission or humiliation are repugnant to natural justice, equity, and good conscience and therefore unenforceable.

Even where a couple opt for a customary wedding, they may lawfully omit any ritual they find offensive or inconsistent with their beliefs.

Constitution Section 38(1) — Freedom of Conscience and Religion

A couple may object on conscience or religious grounds to any ritual gesture. Their decision is legally protected, and no family can lawfully insist otherwise.

Case Law Support

Mojekwu v. Mojekwu (1997) – Any custom that degrades or discriminates is unconstitutional.

Meribe v. Egwu (1976) – Consent, not ritual formality, determines validity.

Agbeja v. Agbeja (1985) – Customary marriages stand only where all acts are voluntary.

Practical Effect:

Even in a voluntary traditional marriage, no family, elder, or community leader has the legal power to compel a bride or groom to prostrate, kneel, bow, or perform any symbolic act against their will.
Refusal to perform such a gesture does not invalidate the marriage under any Nigerian law.
The essence of both statutory and customary marriage is mutual consent, not ritual form.

4️⃣ International Human Rights and Equality for All Persons
African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights (Cap A9 LFN 2004)

Article 2: Equal rights without distinction of race, national origin, or religion.

Article 6: Right to liberty and security of the person.

Article 18(3): State must eliminate discrimination and protect family rights.

Explanation:
Marriage freedom and equality extend to all persons within Nigeria, including foreigners. No one can be treated differently because of nationality or ethnicity.

5️⃣ Judicial Principles Supporting Freedom to Marry
Case Legal Rule Meaning
Osamwonyi v. Osamwonyi (1972) Consent is fundamental Marriage without free consent is void
Agbeja v. Agbeja (1985) Customary marriage must be voluntary No coercion or forced customs allowed
Mojekwu v. Mojekwu (1997) Discriminatory customs invalid Oppressive customs have no force
Obi v. Bosah (2019) Bride price/handing-over define customary marriage only Optional and cultural, not universal requirement
6️⃣ Summary — What the Law Means in Practice
Legal Source Applies To Legal Effect
Constitution (ss.34–38, 42) All persons Freedom, dignity, equality; no coercion or discrimination
Marriage Act (ss.7–41) All persons Marriage valid solely on couple’s consent; no tradition required
Evidence Act (s.18(3)) All customs Voids coercive or discriminatory traditions
African Charter (Cap A9) All persons in Nigeria Protects equality and freedom to marry
Case law All marriages Upholds consent; voids forced or oppressive customs
✅ FINAL LEGAL CONCLUSION

Under Nigerian law —
for all persons, whether both Nigerians or one foreign and one Nigerian:

Marriage is purely voluntary — only the couple’s consent matters.

The couple may freely choose the form (statutory, religious, customary, or combination).

Bride price, family introduction, and traditional rites are optional, not compulsory.

Even where a traditional ceremony is chosen, any specific ritual (such as prostration, kneeling, or symbolic acts) may be lawfully refused without invalidating the marriage.

No one (family, culture, or religion) may impose extra conditions or coercion.

Any attempt to force compliance with cultural or religious rites violates the Constitution (ss. 34–38), the Marriage Act (ss. 7–41), and the Evidence Act (s. 18(3)).

All couples — Nigerian or mixed nationality — share equal protection under law and international human-rights treaties.

Oh boy

dederocs:
Oh boy

Norwegian so law matters to me.

dederocs:
Oh boy

Proves my point about you hypocrite, I just gave you detailed laws of your country and you see them as a joke and optional so cherry-picking the laws you want and tossing the laws you dont and you dont see that you are the problem as much as the people you complain about.

I have risked my life fighting for human rights in countries like Afghanistan and worse for people i dont know and never met in lands that are not mine.

But when it comes to men like you if the people you are complaining about dragged you out of your house in the middle of the night I would have no sympathy for you and would not lift a finger to help you because you are the type that will rob human rights from other people while complaining about yours

But hey thats the Nigerian attitude because the average Nigerian is not a good person because the average Nigerian is hausa, Yoruba and igbo based on just sheer numbers. 59.5% in 3 tribes of 371. And i already know what tribe you are without even asking.

dederocs:
Oh boy

"Protect your tribal lands and homelands, do not be deceived by foreign ideology"

What your profile on here says and the joke? Laws and human rights come from us worldwide, well mostly the British not Africans, you were killing and raping each other before the British came it was only 2,469 days after the British left when those 3 tribes declared civil war and started raping and killing each other all over again and the tribal hate and arguments come from your 3 tribes in the majority not the rest

Like how Yoruba call igbo "a conquered people" because you dont see each other as human.

And if you dont see each other as human, then why would you care about the human rights of other people when you only care about yourself.

dederocs:
Oh boy

Fella, let’s cut the nonsense. You wrote on your profile: “Protect your tribal lands and homelands, do not be deceived by foreign ideology”, but do you even realize how much of what you benefit from daily comes straight from Europeans? If you really rejected foreign ideology, you wouldn’t be living like you do right now. Let me spell it out:

1. Legal & Human Rights Protections

Courts, criminal codes, civil laws—entirely British common law.

Free speech, property rights, gender equality—European liberal ideas.

International human rights treaties (UDHR, ICCPR) protecting you? European.

2. Political System & Governance

Federalism, separation of powers, elections, bureaucracy—all European.

Every vote you cast, every regulation you follow, every government office—colonial inheritance.

3. Economy & Banking

Banks, Central Bank, stock exchange, contracts, trade law—European systems.

Loans, salaries, businesses, even ATMs—you can’t use any without foreign frameworks.

4. Infrastructure & Technology

Roads, railways, airports, ports, electricity, water supply, telecom—European designs.

5. Education

Schools, curricula, universities, degrees, certifications—European templates.

Your literacy, professional skills, science knowledge—all from European influence.

6. Healthcare & Medical Advancements

Hospitals, clinics, medical licensing—introduced by Europeans.

Modern medicine: vaccines, antibiotics, anesthesia, sanitation, disease control (malaria treatment, immunizations), emergency care—European science.

Every basic health service you rely on daily is foreign in origin.

7. Everyday Benefits & Society

Police, judiciary, postal system, trade law, property rights, electricity, running water, transport, banking—foreign imports.

That phone or device you’re using to type this lecture? Completely foreign-invented. Without European or Western technology, it wouldn’t exist.

Bottom line: If you really rejected foreign ideology, you’d be living in a mud hut with zero schools, hospitals, electricity, roads, banks, courts, or phones. Yet here you are, enjoying all of it while lecturing others about “foreign deception.” That’s hypocrisy in its rawest form. Stop pretending you can cherry-pick what’s “tribal” while taking everything Europe built for modern life.

Wake up, fella.

dederocs:
Oh boy

Fella, when you say

"Protect your tribal lands and homelands, do not be deceived by foreign ideology"

You are literally supporting what the people you are complaining about are doing

"Boko” = Western education (in Hausa).

“Haram” = Forbidden or sinful (in Arabic).

Together: “Boko Haram” means “Western education is forbidden.”

And you see the hypocrisy? You want foreign technology and foreign laws but you are complaining about it at the same time.

Even your religions "Christianity and Islam" are foreign to you like they are foreign to me back home in Norway. They are not African in origin.

Fenrir:
Fella, let’s cut the nonsense. You wrote on your profile: “Protect your tribal lands and homelands, do not be deceived by foreign ideology”, but do you even realize how much of what you benefit from daily comes straight from Europeans? If you really rejected foreign ideology, you wouldn’t be living like you do right now. Let me spell it out:

1. Legal & Human Rights Protections

Courts, criminal codes, civil laws—entirely British common law.

Free speech, property rights, gender equality—European liberal ideas.

International human rights treaties (UDHR, ICCPR) protecting you? European.

2. Political System & Governance

Federalism, separation of powers, elections, bureaucracy—all European.

Every vote you cast, every regulation you follow, every government office—colonial inheritance.

3. Economy & Banking

Banks, Central Bank, stock exchange, contracts, trade law—European systems.

Loans, salaries, businesses, even ATMs—you can’t use any without foreign frameworks.

4. Infrastructure & Technology

Roads, railways, airports, ports, electricity, water supply, telecom—European designs.

5. Education

Schools, curricula, universities, degrees, certifications—European templates.

Your literacy, professional skills, science knowledge—all from European influence.

6. Healthcare & Medical Advancements

Hospitals, clinics, medical licensing—introduced by Europeans.

Modern medicine: vaccines, antibiotics, anesthesia, sanitation, disease control (malaria treatment, immunizations), emergency care—European science.

Every basic health service you rely on daily is foreign in origin.

7. Everyday Benefits & Society

Police, judiciary, postal system, trade law, property rights, electricity, running water, transport, banking—foreign imports.

That phone or device you’re using to type this lecture? Completely foreign-invented. Without European or Western technology, it wouldn’t exist.

Bottom line: If you really rejected foreign ideology, you’d be living in a mud hut with zero schools, hospitals, electricity, roads, banks, courts, or phones. Yet here you are, enjoying all of it while lecturing others about “foreign deception.” That’s hypocrisy in its rawest form. Stop pretending you can cherry-pick what’s “tribal” while taking everything Europe built for modern life.

Wake up, fella.

Stop trolling... people can be whatever they want, it's irrelevant to me. We are fighting for equality and freedom. Yes protect it from the bandits and terrorists.

dederocs:
Stop trolling... people can be whatever they want, it's irrelevant to me. We are fighting for equality and freedom. Yes protect it from the bandits and terrorists.

You keep telling people to “stop trolling,” but you still haven’t realised you’re describing your own behaviour with every reply you make. You say “people can be whatever they want,” yet two posts ago you were calling for Christian laws to shape society. That’s the exact opposite of people being whatever they want. You say you’re “fighting for equality and freedom,” yet you want a legal system built around your religion. That is not equality. That is not freedom. That is forced ideology — just with a cross on it instead of a crescent.
And here’s the part you keep dodging because you know it collapses your entire argument:
A “Christian law system” is just Sharia by another name.
Same structure.
Same purpose.
Same enforcement of religious doctrine as civil law.
Same removal of free choice.
The only difference is which holy book you prefer.
You complain about extremism and indoctrination, but you’re advocating the same framework — only for your side. That’s not fighting extremism. That’s replacing it with your own version and pretending it’s morally superior.
And that’s the whole problem:
Everything you say contradicts everything else you say.
You talk about freedom while pushing control.
You talk about equality while promoting a religious hierarchy.
You talk about protecting society while trying to impose one group’s beliefs on everyone else.
You don’t see the contradictions because you jump from one emotional argument to another without connecting them. That’s why every reply you make shifts the goalposts. And that’s why your arguments collapse the moment they’re held to the same standard you apply to everyone else.
If you genuinely want freedom and equality, then you can’t advocate for religious law — Christian, Muslim, or anything else.
If you want religious law, then stop pretending you support freedom.
You can’t mix the two.
You can’t have both.
Right now, you’re trying to sell Sharia-lite while calling it “Christian progress.”
And that’s exactly why nothing you’re saying adds up.

Fenrir:
You keep telling people to “stop trolling,” but you still haven’t realised you’re describing your own behaviour with every reply you make. You say “people can be whatever they want,” yet two posts ago you were calling for Christian laws to shape society. That’s the exact opposite of people being whatever they want. You say you’re “fighting for equality and freedom,” yet you want a legal system built around your religion. That is not equality. That is not freedom. That is forced ideology — just with a cross on it instead of a crescent.
And here’s the part you keep dodging because you know it collapses your entire argument:
A “Christian law system” is just Sharia by another name.
Same structure.
Same purpose.
Same enforcement of religious doctrine as civil law.
Same removal of free choice.
The only difference is which holy book you prefer.
You complain about extremism and indoctrination, but you’re advocating the same framework — only for your side. That’s not fighting extremism. That’s replacing it with your own version and pretending it’s morally superior.
And that’s the whole problem:
Everything you say contradicts everything else you say.
You talk about freedom while pushing control.
You talk about equality while promoting a religious hierarchy.
You talk about protecting society while trying to impose one group’s beliefs on everyone else.
You don’t see the contradictions because you jump from one emotional argument to another without connecting them. That’s why every reply you make shifts the goalposts. And that’s why your arguments collapse the moment they’re held to the same standard you apply to everyone else.
If you genuinely want freedom and equality, then you can’t advocate for religious law — Christian, Muslim, or anything else.
If you want religious law, then stop pretending you support freedom.
You can’t mix the two.
You can’t have both.
Right now, you’re trying to sell Sharia-lite while calling it “Christian progress.”
And that’s exactly why nothing you’re saying adds up.

Christian laws, as a defence measure, clearly stated in my article, refer to the article, this time read dispassionately.

dederocs:
Christian laws, as a defence measure, clearly stated in my article, refer to the article, this time read dispassionately.

You keep telling people to “read dispassionately,” but you still haven’t realised you’re the one reacting emotionally every time someone points out the contradictions in your own writing.
You keep calling your proposal “Christian laws as a defence measure,” but that’s just a fancy way of saying you want religious authority written into civil law. That is not a defence measure. That is religious rule, no matter how you package it. You’re trying to rename the same concept so it sounds nicer, but the structure doesn’t change.
And honestly, the way you keep repeating “go read the article again” every time you get challenged is exactly what people do when they don’t actually understand their own argument. It’s the intellectual version of a child on the playground yelling, “But I said so!” instead of explaining anything.
You’re trying so hard to sound like you have a deep, strategic concept, but every time someone asks you to clarify, you circle back to vague phrasing without actually addressing the points. That’s not debate — that’s avoidance.
The simple truth is this:
If your idea collapses the moment someone asks a direct question, then the idea isn’t solid.
And the more you dodge instead of explaining, the clearer it becomes that you’re not fully grasping the implications of what you’re proposing.
You can dress it up in big wording all you want, but you’re still talking about enforcing religious doctrine through the state — which you keep trying to avoid admitting.
That’s why your replies come across the way they do:
You’re arguing from emotion, not understanding.
And that’s exactly why your position doesn’t hold up under the slightest scrutiny.

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Dogalmighty17:
The NSA will never give any governor the license to import AK-47s into Nigeria. The office of the NSA is one that the Fulani consistently makes sure is headed by a Fulani man in any administration.

Without a certificate for arm importation, no reputable arms company will agree to sell to you. The only option will be to buy from the black market or gun runners. Any governor that does that is guaranteed to be impeached by his house of assembly under pressure from Abuja.

Most of the guns in the arms of these bandits were stolen from the Nigerian army armoury. The day the president decides that a comprehensive audit of Nigerian army armouries nation wide, Nigerians will be shocked to discover that over 40% of its armoury contents have been looted.

The ONSA can't block any Governor if they wish to import fitearms for use in the States defense. Be it Fulani Director. All it takes is legislation from the HoA and Senate. Importation would be done and the Nigeria Police will take stock , train and issue license to the Vigilantes.
Don't come and be spreading false info here

Anither563:
The Federal Government is already doing a great job arming the military and police. The governors should focus on providing the needed support for the security agencies and our laws don't allow them to directly arm anyone.

All the civilian militias paid by Anambra state carry Ak 47........in fact most vigilant groups have always had Ak 47s .......though pump action rifles is what they carry the most@