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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by cmoney22222: 10:36am On Nov 27, 2025
Seewahala the online crumb beggar. Beggi beggi
ForeverCuler:
Boss? U fit do me breakfast biko? 😢 Av eaten the last portion of it
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by ForeverCuler: 10:41am On Nov 27, 2025
cmoney22222:
Seewahala the online crumb beggar. Beggi beggi
Hmm,i asked ilegend not you sir, and when did it turn to crime to ask someone for help? Did u know the situation i am in RN? I tink if you are not willing to help then no jeed for all this. Thank you
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 11:35am On Nov 27, 2025
ABOVE THE CLOUD (ATC) — BEAR MARKET SHORTING STRATEGY

In every bear market — 2014, 2018, 2022, and the coming 2026 — Bitcoin behaves with brutal consistency.

Every rally is a liquidation trap, not a trend change. The ATC strategy exploits this by identifying two premium short entries: Above the Cloud and Hanging Fruit.

Both rely on a double-layered Bollinger Band “cloud” on the daily timeframe — blue layer under, yellow layer above.


1. ABOVE THE CLOUD SETUP

When a daily candle pokes above the cloud (even if it fails to close above it), that day is Day 1. You never short on Day 1. On Day 2, the candle must be taller than Day 1. On Day 3, price must remain tall, or nearly the same height, or showing early signs of rollover. At the close of Day 3, the short is triggered. This pattern repeats in every bear cycle.

2. HANGING FRUIT SETUP (THE BEST ONE)

Hanging fruit forms when a daily candle lifts far above the cloud without touching it at all. It’s clean, elevated, and obvious — like fruit hanging off a branch. Once a hanging fruit candle appears, you short the very next day.
This entry has a higher strike-rate than Above the Cloud.

3. WHY THIS WORKS IN A BEAR MARKET

In downtrends, any upward movement is engineered to wipe out shorts or lure in trapped longs. Price rarely travels far above the Bollinger cloud, and when it does, it snaps back hard.
ATC exploits these exaggerated retracements with surgical precision.

4. CURRENT MARKET POSITION (LIVE)

Right now, price is above the cloud at 91.7k. That means today is Day 1. I do not short yet. If tomorrow forms a taller candle, and Day 3 holds height or begins to curve down, I short — whether 93k, 95k, 106K, or wherever the price settles.

If Day 2 becomes a hanging fruit, I take the hanging fruit short on the following day, not on that same day.

As I said, this ATC has been accurate in all cycles. See images.

If it's not ATC or a Hanging fruit, don't short.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 11:40am On Nov 27, 2025
To access the chart, go to the free Tradingview account I created, use 1 day TF and activate the indicator called VWBB or Volume Weighted Bollinger Band. I altered the settings for this shorting strategy.

Yes, I know I'm the king of 1 week TF, but this strategy is for 1day TF.

Modified: Oh, I just realized the one of 2014, 2018 and 2022 I posted are for 1 week TF.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Bet9jaVirtual: 1:26pm On Nov 27, 2025
I miss Prof kccydon grin grin
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Bet9jaVirtual: 1:28pm On Nov 27, 2025
kccydon:
Dear iLegendd,

I write to dedicate my first post on Nairaland to thank you for your educative series on this forum.

I have been a member of this platform for almost 18 years now (sine 2007), and I have always followed the forum mainly through the Guest mode. I am a Professor in a Nigerian university.

I started following the forum during the last bull run and indeed, many of the major players here then who have been gifting us with their knowledge have since left the platform. I write to appreciate your effort with Graceglory for persisting despite some of the negative comments by some newbies,.

I hope to use the knowledge and ideas you are sharing for free to try my hand in the futures market during the coming Bear season. So please, keep sharing, I hope to contact you then and send in my tithe/thanksgiving...

This is just to et you know that we have people following and learning from your educational series

Thank you very much, once again
Professoor Kccydon
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by MamaFutures: 2:43pm On Nov 27, 2025
iLegendd:
ABOVE THE CLOUD (ATC) — BEAR MARKET SHORTING STRATEGY

In every bear market — 2014, 2018, 2022, and the coming 2026 — Bitcoin behaves with brutal consistency.

Every rally is a liquidation trap, not a trend change. The ATC strategy exploits this by identifying two premium short entries: Above the Cloud and Hanging Fruit.

Both rely on a double-layered Bollinger Band “cloud” on the daily timeframe — blue layer under, yellow layer above.


1. ABOVE THE CLOUD SETUP

When a daily candle pokes above the cloud (even if it fails to close above it), that day is Day 1. You never short on Day 1. On Day 2, the candle must be taller than Day 1. On Day 3, price must remain tall, or nearly the same height, or showing early signs of rollover. At the close of Day 3, the short is triggered. This pattern repeats in every bear cycle.

2. HANGING FRUIT SETUP (THE BEST ONE)

Hanging fruit forms when a daily candle lifts far above the cloud without touching it at all. It’s clean, elevated, and obvious — like fruit hanging off a branch. Once a hanging fruit candle appears, you short the very next day.
This entry has a higher strike-rate than Above the Cloud.

3. WHY THIS WORKS IN A BEAR MARKET

In downtrends, any upward movement is engineered to wipe out shorts or lure in trapped longs. Price rarely travels far above the Bollinger cloud, and when it does, it snaps back hard.
ATC exploits these exaggerated retracements with surgical precision.

4. CURRENT MARKET POSITION (LIVE)

Right now, price is above the cloud at 91.7k. That means today is Day 1. I do not short yet. If tomorrow forms a taller candle, and Day 3 holds height or begins to curve down, I short — whether 93k, 95k, 106K, or wherever the price settles.

If Day 2 becomes a hanging fruit, I take the hanging fruit short on the following day, not on that same day.

As I said, this ATC has been accurate in all cycles. See images.

If it's not ATC or a Hanging fruit, don't short.
This one doesn't know what he is doing.
He is a typical example of someone that can't learn technical analysis without a mentor.

To successfully learn technical analysis without a mentor requires a different type of skill. Different from the type of skill you need to trade the mkt.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 6:53pm On Nov 27, 2025
After 10 years, I'll take out time to read all the quotes I got on this page. I have ignored most because they're always out of envy.

So, if you've quoted me and I haven't replied you, don't be mad — I haven't read it. When I do, I'll surely reply. I rank things in order of importance and I have pride too. 😂
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 7:18pm On Nov 27, 2025
1. *The most abused, iLégend
2. *The most mocked, iLégend
3. *The most posts, iLégend
4. *The most available, iLégend
5. *The most hated, iLégend
6. The most loved, iLégend
7. The most followed, iLégend
8. *The most talked about, iLégend
9. *The most photo uploaded, iLégend
10. The most organised, iLégend
11. The most annoying, iLégend
12. *The most cho-cho-cho, iLégend
13. The most arrogant, iLégend
14. The most humble, iLégend
15. The most focused, iLégend
16. The one who invents and knows it must work, iLégend (I'm so damn arrogant — haha & I won't change).
17. The most "I-Don't-Care," iLégend
18. *The one who shares the most, even things he's supposed to hide, iLégend
19. The one who researchers the most, iLégend.
20. You already know this one

The one with asterisks will soon come to an end and we'll be left with the rest.

Lesson:

Just do your thing and don't worry about online abuses. People are going through a lot and sometimes, abusing you and getting a reaction from you is all they need to feel elevated from their sad mood.

I have put all my 2024 and 2025 deep research into one umbrella called BOXnalysis and I'm so proud of it. Things really metamorphosed into this monster called BOXnalysis.

My confidence level about BTC has gone up compared to 2021. Dedication pays!

I won't be right every time, but damn, the accuracy of this system is uncanny. Even when it's wrong, it's just a tiny bit.

This system gives you an entirely different level of conviction and you won't be bothered by news or what other analysts say. Yours is the alpha and omega and you won't be distracted. If you lose, you lose with confidence.

I appreciate everyone who has contributed on this thread. If it was only me, I may have stopped, but your presence encouraged me and all gratitude is to you guys. It can't just be me me me — you guys are the boss and you boy is loyal.

You're the reason I feel like an accomplished scientist and the main reason I didn't give up despite being inundated with abuses from herdsmen. 😂

2025 is the best cycle so far! Most of you will only realize this in the future, when it's part of history.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 8:30pm On Nov 27, 2025
Let's do a little retrospect. BTC has a roadmap it follows and it's predicable. Even if it deviates, it comes back on track. Just master this roadmap and you'll be ahead.

In August, 2025, when BTC was at 120k, I inverted my chart and showed you that roadmap. What's happening today? We're following that road home. It has been like this from 2010.

More...

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 8:34pm On Nov 27, 2025
This one below is USDT dominance. Look at my before and after...

In the first post, there is a place I wrote 127k to 136k, but sadly, we stopped at 126.6k, which is approximately 127k. If we had gone further to hit the dotted purple line, then 136k would've been hit.

Why didn't we hit it? No QE and it's already too late because the 80th week after halving has already been exceeded.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Robnectar(m): 9:16pm On Nov 27, 2025
undecided

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Chilipepper: 9:47pm On Nov 27, 2025
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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 1:59am On Nov 28, 2025
One sad thing about the black race is how we've been programmed to focus on pleasure and leave discoveries, innovation and invention for the whites and when they're done digging it out, we consume their products and even flaunt them to show affluence — lambo, Bugatti, AI, drones, crypto, designers, airplane, etc.

Even when a black man invents, another black man go first enter one corner go BURST laugh. 😂 Why? He sees anything from his fellow black as inferior or fake — he just doesn't believe in himself let alone believe in another back man. But guess what? Some blacks believe in themselves and that's what matters.

On this note, I'll share a rough sketch of 10 steps, with images, of Boxnalysis and how easy it is to create, but looks exhaustive at first. This is the easiest system ever, but setting it up might look scary to a black man. It's all my best system put in one box and it has been accurate from 2010.

You know, as black men, our DNA is "I no come this life to suffer."

For me, I think differently — I must go through the pains to find a solution for my people even if other blacks, as usual, disapprove of it.

The owners of this world are shameless and stubborn people who don't give up — you can't beat them, you can only laugh at them, but they'll laugh at you at last.

Typing...
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:00am On Nov 28, 2025
SETTING UP BOXNALYSIS STRATEGY — COMPLETE CHECKLIST

0. All drawing follows a color coding called RUGBY-WHO, (Red, ...urple, Green, Blue, Yellow, White, Honeydew & Orange color).

1. Draw the Home-Sweet-Home Rainbow Chart.

This is your foundational map. It gives you cycle's top and bottom context and long-range bias before any box is even drawn.

2. Draw the Bear-Market Parallel Line.

This comes before the boxes. It lets you anchor the down-cycle structure so every box that follows respects the bear-market geometry.

3. Draw the Boxes and the Red NTM (No-Trade Month) According to  Their Colors in BuBumReSel.

Mark every box, every phase, and every NTM zone — label them. The colors give instant cycle-phase clarity at a glance and the labels reveal how tall each box can be.

4. Demarcate Each Year and Identify The 80th Week After Halving.

This helps know where each year starts and ends and where the 80th week is, to enable you draw a small box in the last 5 weeks (4mnths + 1wk) of the white box to the 80th week. And this helps you sell at the top, before the small box.

5. Draw the SITM Dotted Line — the Sweet-In-The-Middle Line and January and June's Top/Bottom Retest Line.

This helps you know when to unhedge, close a short or enter a long position for the next box cycle.

6. Draw the Parallel Channel RUGBY Lines From Bottom of Orange to Top of White.

Top, middle and bottom of honeydew is drawn, alongside the top of white box and bottom of orange box.

The blue parallel line helps in knowing the top of the cycle while the rest helps in knowing when a cycle or box is moving too fast (unhealthy), normal or too slow. It serves as a dynamic cycle rails and psychological markers for trend strength, trend weakness, and impending reversals.

7. Draw the RUGBY Arrows Showing Different Trading System Inside Box + Identify All 5 & 1 Hanging Fruit(s), and When to Sell, Hedge, Long, or Buy.

Your arrows direct the entire box framework into actionable triggers, based on where it's coming from and where it's pointing. It gives multiple mini-trading opportunities.

8. Project Bottoms and Tops Using the Tallest Box.

Use the upper or lower half of the tallest box to forecast bottoming zones, and use the entire height of the tallest box, sometimes doubled, to project the top from blue parallel line.

9. Set Up Your Indicators.

*DIY indicator (for trend, liquidity and pivotal points)
* VWBB (the cloud that guides the moves in 1 week TF for bull market and 1 day TF for bear market. Identify aCloud, bCloud and iCloud of all NTM and even inside the boxes for your arrow trades).
* PPsignal 1 & 2 (For identifying The Wall of Jerico & China's different setups, serious and appropriate cycle, unserious cycle, and serious but inappropriate cycle, market bottom and more).
*iTrend, Double relative+, volume+ profile, and others.

10. Parallel Line Comparison and Analysis

This helps in knowing about the growth or retrogression of a box in a cycle and using those parallel lines.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:03am On Nov 28, 2025
Below is how it's created. You may not understand the images below, don't me mad, one day you will.

I'll post section by section of what I posted above with images of how they were created.

0. All drawing follows a color coding called RUGBY-WHO, (Red, ...urple, Green, Blue, Yellow, White, Honeydew & Orange color).

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:04am On Nov 28, 2025
1. Draw the Home-Sweet-Home Rainbow Chart.

This is your foundational map. It gives you cycle's top and bottom context and long-range bias before any box is even drawn.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:04am On Nov 28, 2025
3. Draw the Boxes and the Red NTM (No-Trade Month) According to Their Colors in BuBumReSel.

Mark every box, every phase, and every NTM zone — label them. The colors give instant cycle-phase clarity at a glance and the labels reveal how tall each box can be.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:07am On Nov 28, 2025
4. Demarcate Each Year and Identify The 80th Week After Halving.

This helps know where each year starts and ends and where the 80th week is, to enable you draw a small box in the last 5 weeks (4mnths + 1wk) of the white box to the 80th week. And this helps you sell at the top, before the small box.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:08am On Nov 28, 2025
5. Draw the SITM Dotted Line — the Sweet-In-The-Middle Line and January and June's Top/Bottom Retest Line.

This helps you know when to unhedge, close a short or enter a long position for the next box cycle.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:13am On Nov 28, 2025
6. Draw the Parallel Channel RUGBY Lines From Bottom of Orange to Top of White.

Top, middle and bottom of honeydew is drawn, alongside the top of white box and bottom of orange box.

The blue parallel line helps in knowing the top of the cycle while the rest helps in knowing when a cycle or box is moving too fast (unhealthy), normal or too slow. It serves as a dynamic cycle rails and psychological markers for trend strength, trend weakness, and impending reversals.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:13am On Nov 28, 2025
7. Draw the RUGBY Arrows Showing Different Trading System Inside Box + Identify All 5 & 1 Hanging Fruit(s), and When to Sell, Hedge, Long, or Buy.

Your arrows direct the entire box framework into actionable triggers, based on where it's coming from and where it's pointing. It gives multiple mini-trading opportunities.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:17am On Nov 28, 2025
8. Project Bottoms and Tops Using the Tallest Box.

Use the upper or lower half of the tallest box to forecast bottoming zones, and use the entire height of the tallest box, sometimes doubled, to project the top from blue parallel line.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 2:18am On Nov 28, 2025
9. Set Up Your Indicators.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m):
10. Parallel Line Comparison and Analysis & June-July Black Lines

This helps in knowing about the growth or retrogression of a box in a cycle and June-July correction.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m):
The above posts are for reference purposes. Ignore them.

The end.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by gammarays(m): 4:54am On Nov 28, 2025
Before 1x futures trading leverage comes with no liquidation as it's like spot trading.
However I noticed of recent liquidation price is 2x of entry price whenever I use 1x leverage on bybit.

Is that the new normal or should I try another exchange?
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Holladoyheen: 6:37am On Nov 28, 2025
Person go post orisirisi madeup unworking theories and quickly use 5 of his alts to like the posts.
Mehnnn the hustle is real.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by dalitigator(m): 8:54am On Nov 28, 2025
Holladoyheen:
Person go post orisirisi madeup unworking theories and quickly use 5 of his alts to like the posts.
Mehnnn the hustle is real.
Why do you think so?
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by LondonExpress: 10:15am On Nov 28, 2025
dalitigator:
Why do you think so?
Because he is not a beginner in technical analysis.
It's only novice that think otherwise.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 10:44am On Nov 28, 2025
SYSTEMATIC VS DISCRETIONARY STRATEGY

Systematic trading is trading based entirely on rules, formulas, and algorithms — not emotions, not guesses.

It's like  building a robotic playbook that decides:

When to enter
When to exit
How much to risk
What conditions must be present before you act

…and you simply follow it without negotiation.

In simple terms

Systematic trading = If A + B + C happen → Do X. If not → Do nothing.

No instinct.
No “I feel like the market will pump.”
No panic because a candle looks scary.

The system makes the decision.

Characteristics of Systematic Trading

1. Rule-based

Every action comes from predefined rules:

“Short only when price is above the cloud.”
“Exit when RSI > 85.” Blah blah blah.

2. Backtestable

Because the rules are fixed, you can run them on historical data to see:

Win rate
Maximum drawdown
Profit factor
Worst losing streak
Monthly performance

This gives you confidence.

3. Emotion-free

The biggest enemy in trading is emotion. A systematic strategy doesn’t care about fear, euphoria, narratives, or news. It only cares about conditions.

4. Repeatable

You can apply the same strategy across:

BTC
ETH
Altcoins
Stocks
Futures

…with consistent behavior.

Why Systematic Trading Works

Because markets repeat patterns, behaviors, and structures.
Systematic rules exploit those repeating behaviors.

Human beings react emotionally the same way in every cycle:

Fear
Greed
FOMO
Capitulation

Rules allow you to capitalize instead of react emotionally.

Systematic Trading vs Discretionary Trading

Systematic ----------------- Discretionary

Robot-like rules | Personal judgment
Low emotion | High emotion
Backtestable | Hard to backtest
Consistent | Inconsistent
Predictable outcomes | Uncertain outcomes

Example (Simplified)

A systematic bear-market short strategy might be:

IF
Price is above Bollinger cloud (ATC style)
Candle enters “hanging fruit” zone
Volume confirms
Momentum is bearish

THEN

Enter short
TP at 1.5× moves
Use trailing stop

If any condition is missing → No trade.
That’s systematic and that's how Boxnalysis works.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 11:15am On Nov 28, 2025
We're more safe than banks. Don't let anyone scare you with quantum computing.


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