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aribisala0:
The pain of the Nobel prize is eternal. Shinaydoo will never recover

Prof. Chinua Achebe is still making more money in death via his globally accepted literary works than Soyinka who cunningly sneaked away to accept Nobel peace prize when other Africans agreed to reject it as a form of protest.


Despite his fake Nobel peace prize, he became so broke to the extent that he had to forgo his past integrity and principles to become a supporter and defender of a compromised government of a man with too many questions marks just so he could see chop money .


Now tell me the worth of such Nobel prize? Even USA couldn't honor his Nobel Prize and let him renew his Green card, shows it was an Oluwole Nobel Prize, ire oh

Orlandoo:
Two great men. Unlike the founder of cultism in Nigeria hiding behind noble laureate to carry out his bigotry.

You mean "I will access tinibu's government after a year"?

Mbanda:
You mean "I will access tinibu's government after a year"?

And he hasn't till this moment.

franchasofficia:
Prof. Chinua Achebe is still making more money in death via his globally accepted literary works than Soyinka who cunningly sneaked away to accept Nobel peace prize when other Africans agreed to reject it as a form of protest.


Despite his fake Nobel peace prize, he became so broke to the extent that he had to forgo his past integrity and principles to become a supporter and defender of a compromised government of a man with too many questions marks just so he could see chop money .


Now tell me the worth of such Nobel prize? Even USA couldn't honor his Nobel Prize and let him renew his Green card, shows it was an Oluwole Nobel Prize, ire oh

When Ibo man very feels inadequate his default position is to talk about money

I get money pass you
I can feed your generation

Predictable infantile outbursts

We see through you and your insecurity

A Yoruba man got it and it hurts bitterly



Imagine the lies you are telling to console yourself

Other Africans agreedcto reject it as a for of protest?

Only an Ibo can come up with such a story

What were they protesting?

Where did they agree?

aribisala0:
When Ibo man very feels inadequate his default position is to talk about money

I get money pass you
I can feed your generation

Predictable infantile outbursts

We see through you and your insecurity

A Yoruba man got it and it hurts bitterly

yen yen yen as usual.


Shebi your brother wanted to use Osinka's oluwole Nobel Prize award to brag initially? Something that couldn't help the Prof feed well

franchasofficia:
yen yen yen as usual.


Shebi your brother wanted to use Osinka's oluwole Nobel Prize award to brag initially? Something that couldn't help the Prof feed well

We will brag with it forever
It will pain you forever

franchasofficia:
Prof. Chinua Achebe is still making more money in death via his globally accepted literary works than Soyinka who cunningly sneaked away to accept Nobel peace prize when other Africans agreed to reject it as a form of protest.


Despite his fake Nobel peace prize, he became so broke to the extent that he had to forgo his past integrity and principles to become a supporter and defender of a compromised government of a man with too many questions marks just so he could see chop money .


Now tell me the worth of such Nobel prize? Even USA couldn't honor his Nobel Prize and let him renew his Green card, shows it was an Oluwole Nobel Prize, ire oh

Chatgpt.com



Taking into account all the previous statements you’ve shared, here’s a careful synthesis and evaluation of the writer’s claims, truthfulness, and rationality:

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### **1. Context Recap**

From what you’ve told me and the quotes:


* He claims:

1. Chinua Achebe was unfairly denied the Nobel Prize because his works criticized the West.
2. Wole Soyinka was awarded because his works aligned with Western values.
3. Soyinka “cunningly” accepted the Nobel Prize while other Africans supposedly protested.
4. Achebe is “making more money in death” than Soyinka.
5. Soyinka’s works are “valueless” and elevate European/Western culture over African culture.

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### **2. Truthfulness Analysis**

* **Verifiable facts:**

* Soyinka won the Nobel in 1986. ✅
* Achebe never won the Nobel. ✅
* Achebe’s works are globally influential and continue to generate revenue. ✅
* **Speculative or unverified claims:**

* “The West denied Achebe deliberately” ❌
* “Other Africans agreed to reject the 1986 Nobel” ❌
* Soyinka accepted the prize for “selfish reasons” ❌
* Soyinka’s works are “valueless” ❌
* Achebe earns more than Soyinka posthumously ❌ (no public data)

**Conclusion on truth:** Mostly **opinion, speculation, and ideological framing**, with only a few factual elements.

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### **3. Rationality / Sanity Analysis**

* The reasoning is **heavily biased and emotionally charged**.
* Uses **ad hominem attacks** against Soyinka (“cunningly sneaked away,” “valueless works”).
* Employs **conspiracy-like reasoning** (“the West puppeteered the Academy”) without evidence.
* Mixes **fact, opinion, and ideology** in a way that is not logically coherent.

**Conclusion on sanity/rationality:** Largely **irrational and emotionally driven**, reflecting strong ideological and jingoist perspectives rather than careful analysis.

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### **4. Overall Assessment**

* The writer’s claims are **partially grounded in historical facts** (who won what, Achebe’s literary influence).
* Most of the statements are **speculative, opinionated, and ideologically motivated**.
* The framing reflects **extreme bias and emotionally charged nationalism**, making the arguments **not fully rational or sane in a logical sense**.

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If you want, I can create a **“neutral, fact-based summary”** of the Soyinka vs. Achebe Nobel issue that strips away all ideological and emotionally charged claims. It would clearly separate fact from speculation, showing the truth without bias.

Do you want me to do that?

Great men

Airlord2030:
I only recognize fella. A man than invented a genre of music.
The other bozo I don't know

I recognised a learned man and a poet, and the other drug addict; I can't see clearly.

Equivalent of seun kuti and chimamanda Adichie today

Orlandoo:
Two great men. Unlike the founder of cultism in Nigeria hiding behind noble laureate to carry out his bigotry.

lol the founder of cultism is fela’s first cousin btw 😂

Orlandoo:
Two great men. Unlike the founder of cultism in Nigeria hiding behind noble laureate to carry out his bigotry.

Is achebe and fela not a cultist

Orlandoo:
Two great men. Unlike the founder of cultism in Nigeria hiding behind noble laureate to carry out his bigotry.

Bigotry?
Wole Soyinka was the civilian academic who risked his life to protest and support Biafra during the civil war. He was put in prison the FG for years because of that! Were was Achebe at the time?
Some of you don't know what you talk about..

Orlandoo:
Two great men. Unlike the founder of cultism in Nigeria hiding behind noble laureate to carry out his bigotry.

Nobel. Say after me, N-O-B-E-L.

MartinCorridon:
Chinua was ready to bow and take tribalmarks

You bow down to someone greater than you

Soyinka is to English Premier League while Achebe is to Nigerian League Division 3

Jesus!!

Airlord2030:
I only recognize fella. A man than invented a genre of music.
The other bozo I don't know

Fela did not invent Afrobeat and he is not the creator. This lie has been peddled for far too long!
If you care to know, Fela was playing Highlife music. He later travelled and lived in Ghana 1967-69 and joined a band in Accra called Hedzolleh. That is where Fela learnt what is now called ''Afrobeat''. He was later joined in the same band by Hugh Masekela of South Africa. That is why there is some similarity in their instrumentation, rhythms and percussions.
Ghana was like the mecca and hotbed of the best musicians in Africa at that time, coming from the huge influence of Highlife music.
But Fela became the most famous musician partly because of his radicalism, revolutionary message, political activism and controversies.

Wrong caption - Throwback Picture of Fela and a bigot in 1983 is the right caption

mikeapollo:
Fela did not invent Afrobeat and he is not the creator.
If you care to know, Fela was playing Highlife music. He later travelled and lived in Ghana 1967-69 and joined a band in Accra called Hedzolleh. That is where Fela learnt what is now called ''Afrobeat''. He was later joined in the same band by Hugh Masekela of South Africa. That is why there is some similarity in their instrumentation, rhythms and percussions.
Ghana was like the mecca and hotbed of the best musicians in Africa at that time, coming from the huge influence of Highlife music.
But Fela became the most famous musician because of his radical and revolutionary message and political activism.

This is a lie

Fela was not living in Ghana between 1967 and 1969 . He was in Lagos with his band Koola Lobitos


HE NEVER JOINED A BAND CALLED
Hedzolleh THAT IS A LIE



He moved to Ghana on exile after the attack on his Kalakuta Republic in 1977


You say he learnt what is now Afrobeat in Ghana ?
From whom ?

name one person and show us their music?

Also tell us the first song he released after he completed his studies in Ghana

These some albums so tell us which one is the first Afrobeat and link that to studies in Ghana

| # | Album title | Year released |
| -- | ------------------------ | ------------- |
| 1 | Fela Fela Fela | 1970 |
| 2 | Fela's London Scene | 1971 |
| 3 | Why Black Man Dey Suffer | 1971 |
| 4 | Open & Close | 1971 |
| 5 | Na Poi | 1971 |
| 6 | Shakara | 1972 |
| 7 | Roforofo Fight | 1972 |
| 8 | Afrodisiac | 1973 |
| 9 | Gentleman | 1973 |
| 10 | Alagbon Close | 1974 |
| 11 | Noise for Vendor Mouth | 1975 |
| 12 | Confusion | 1975 |
| 13 | Everything Scatter | 1975 |
| 14 | Expensive Shit | 1975 |
| 15 | He Miss Road | 1975 |

This shows his early period when he was fully developing the Afrobeat sound.



As you can see I talk with evidence

Don't just make claims without proof

aribisala0:
The pain of the Nobel prize is eternal.

Shinaydoo will never recover

Is shinaydoo responsible for Ogbeni Kongi's silence over the extreme poverty shege pain experienced by Nigerians under All Promises Cancelled, APC?

Do you think the silence is influenced by the pots and pans gift to Wole Soyinka by the Tinubus?

Omooba77:
The association, in a statement on Sunday by the NAS Capn, Dr. Joseph Oteri, said these needless deaths, a grim reflection of the desperation gripping many Nigerians, underscore the rising hunger and economic hardship that has engulfed the nation.

The National Association of Seadogs (Pyrates Confraternity) says it is deeply saddened by the tragic loss of over 60 lives in Oyo, Anambra, and Abuja during recent palliative distribution stampedes.

The association, in a statement on Sunday by the NAS Capn, Dr. Joseph Oteri, said these needless deaths, a grim reflection of the desperation gripping many Nigerians, underscore the rising hunger and economic hardship that has engulfed the nation.

“While we commend the government's effort to alleviate the plight of vulnerable citizens through palliatives, it is evident that these measures have been marred by inadequate planning, poor coordination, and lack of accountability,” it said.

According to the group, the chaotic scenes that led to the fatal incidents are an “indictment of the systemic failure to address the root causes of hunger and poverty”.

The group noted that rising hunger in Nigeria is a national emergency that demands urgent action.

“Failure to act decisively will deepen the crisis, with devastating social, economic, and political consequences,” it said.

“We mourn with the families of the deceased and demand that the government ensures accountability for this avoidable tragedy. Hunger should never be a death sentence in a country blessed with abundant resources.”

“It is time to rise to the challenge of ensuring that every Nigerian can live with dignity, free from the scourge of poverty and hunger,” it added.

Therefore, the association called on all levels of government to urgently prioritize sustainable solutions to the hunger crisis.

It said, “Palliatives must reach the intended beneficiaries without endangering lives. Transparent and well-organised systems, with the involvement of community leaders and credible NGOs, should be put in place to avoid chaotic distributions.

“Beyond temporary relief measures, the government must develop long-term strategies to enhance food production, support local farmers, and stabilize food prices.

“Programmes aimed at addressing the needs of the most vulnerable must be scaled up. Access to affordable healthcare, education, and social safety nets is critical to lifting millions out of poverty.

“Policies that create jobs and enhance income-generating opportunities should be fast-tracked to reduce dependency on palliatives.”

The association noted that two of its chapters in Edo State (Area 3) recently had successful palliative programmes, during which over 2,000 underprivileged persons were fed.

It added that one of the key components of the programme was orderliness.

https://saharareporters.com/2024/12/22/deaths-oyo-anambra-abuja-food-sharing-stampedes-are-sign-hunger-economic-hardship

anonimi:
Is shinaydoo responsible for Ogbeni Kongi's silence over the extreme poverty shege pain experienced by Nigerians under All Promises Cancelled, APC?

Do you think the silence is influenced by the pots and pans gift to Wole Soyinka by the Tinubus?

Do not quote me simultaneously with any person if you don't want conflict or abuse.

Legends

Borrow2222:
I recognised a learned man and a poet, and the other drug addict; I can't see clearly.

I never mentioned you on my comment, why are you this pained?

aribisala0:
Why are Yoruba always in front?

I know ......

Ees painful

You mean in front of everything wrong and evil?

DeJoeee:
Two great men
One excelled in writing, the other in music
#respect

EBAMI EDA🙌🏾 the strange one💪

Nw tribalism don eat d brain of average Nigerian bw

Ecomfreecourse:
He was only referring to Soyinka why bringing igbos into this? When will you people ever stop this tribalism nonsenses?

. Why referring to wole soyinka?

From the picture, one can see that Igbos and Yorubas were united against the military.

After the military left, they discovered that they are actually 2 separate tribes and that it’s all man for himself like the olden days of the tribal wars.

Chiamanda. That her purple hibiscus book is my best African/nigerian novel till date.

IGBOPROMISE1:
One thing both share in common is that they’re uncompromising in their views and can’t be swayed by the trappings of power!

I see a bit of Fela in Sowore and a bit of Achebe in Chimamanda!