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Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:35am On Dec 07, 2025
SpencerForbes:
Yeah but they had differences right?? That’s the point. They had their differences but didn’t let it get the better of them.
They never had any difference!

Peter allowed the fear of men to catch him unaware {Proverbs 29:25} Jesus had warned his disciples against the fear of men {Matthew 10:28} so when Paul took the courage to rebuke him Peter accepted and later commended Paul for his courage:

Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him. 2Peter 3:15

So there was no difference between the first century disciples of Christ stop deceiving yourself with false reasoning.
What the churches of Christendom are doing today is IDOLATRY that's where they can teach different things yet claiming they belong to the same God!🤔
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by Nobody: 10:40am On Dec 07, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
They never had any difference!

Peter allowed the fear of men to catch him unaware {Proverbs 29:25} Jesus had warned his disciples against the fear of men {Matthew 10:28} so when Paul took the courage to rebuke him Peter accepted and later commended Paul for his courage:

Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him. 2Peter 3:15

So there was no difference between the first century disciples of Christ stop deceiving yourself with false reasoning.
What the churches of Christendom are doing today is IDOLATRY that's where they can teach different things yet claiming they belong to the same God!🤔
Is this really an argument 😳

One was bold enough in the face of men, the other wasn’t and the one that was rebuked the other without calling him names please what’s that?? If Paul hadn’t rebuked him, how sure are you he wouldn’t have continued?
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by Nobody: 10:44am On Dec 07, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
They never had any difference!

Peter allowed the fear of men to catch him unaware {Proverbs 29:25} Jesus had warned his disciples against the fear of men {Matthew 10:28} so when Paul took the courage to rebuke him Peter accepted and later commended Paul for his courage:

Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him. 2Peter 3:15

So there was no difference between the first century disciples of Christ stop deceiving yourself with false reasoning.
What the churches of Christendom are doing today is IDOLATRY that's where they can teach different things yet claiming they belong to the same God!🤔
You said they never had any disagreements and I pointed a scenario. You then shifted the goal post that it was correction, has there ever been correction without mistake or error? I agreed and pointed out it wasn’t differences but fear of men. And even if I write the text formally here, you’ll still shift the goalpost.

Why are Christians of this day like this🤷‍♂️
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50am On Dec 07, 2025
SpencerForbes:
You said they never had any disagreements and I pointed a scenario. You then shifted the goal post that it was correction, has there ever been correction without mistake or error? I agreed and pointed out it wasn’t differences but fear of men. And even if I write the text formally here, you’ll still shift the goalpost.

Why are Christians of this day like this🤷‍♂️
Both of them never had any difference in BELIEFS like what you people practice today. Real Christians have the same line of thought globally {1Corinthans 1:10} because they must be One in the spirit {John 17:22} that's the point i'm making!
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by Nobody: 10:50am On Dec 07, 2025
Let me put this debate to rest

Another major disagreement among the apostles and early disciples after Pentecost was at the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15).

The conflict was whether Gentile (non-Jewish) converts had to be circumcised and obey the Mosaic Law to be saved and accepted into the Christian Church. Certain Jewish Christians insisted Gentiles must be circumcised, but Paul and Barnabas strongly disagreed, arguing that salvation came through faith in Jesus Christ alone.

After hearing testimony from Peter and others, the leaders, primarily James, ruled that Gentiles did not need to be circumcised. However, to promote harmony between Jewish and Gentile believers, they requested that Gentiles voluntarily abstain from a few practices that were offensive to Jews, such as eating food offered to idols or blood. This decision affirmed that Christianity was a universal faith based on grace, not adherence to the Jewish Law.

So you see they also had differences on circumcision. They had to disagree to agree without insults or name calling.
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:52am On Dec 07, 2025
You can continue deceiving yourself.

There was no disagreement among first century disciples of Christ because they all subjected themselves to the teachings of the Apostles in Jerusalem! Act 2:42

SpencerForbes:
Let me put this debate to rest
Another major disagreement among the apostles and early disciples after Pentecost was at the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15).

The conflict was whether Gentile (non-Jewish) converts had to be circumcised and obey the Mosaic Law to be saved and accepted into the Christian Church. Certain Jewish Christians insisted Gentiles must be circumcised, but Paul and Barnabas strongly disagreed, arguing that salvation came through faith in Jesus Christ alone.

After hearing testimony from Peter and others, the leaders, primarily James, ruled that Gentiles did not need to be circumcised. However, to promote harmony between Jewish and Gentile believers, they requested that Gentiles voluntarily abstain from a few practices that were offensive to Jews, such as eating food offered to idols or blood. This decision affirmed that Christianity was a universal faith based on grace, not adherence to the Jewish Law.

So you see they also had differences on circumcision. They had to disagree to agree without insults or name calling.
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by Nobody: 10:54am On Dec 07, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Both of them never had any difference in BELIEFS like what you people practice today. Real Christians have the same line of thought globally {1Corinthans 1:10} because they must be One in the spirit {John 17:22} that's the point i'm making!
Shifting the goal post again. You just agreed they had differences but you just want to shift the goal post again. But I’ll follow you. They had disagreements on baptism, circumcision and even Jewish and gentile practices. So they had to disagree a lot of times without resulting to pointing of fingers.

One was bold and the other wasn’t bold enough. Is that the same line of thoughts??
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by Nobody: 10:55am On Dec 07, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You can continue deceiving yourself.

There was no disagreement among first century disciples of Christ because they all subjected themselves to the teachings of the Apostles in Jerusalem! Act 2:42
I’m giving you points with biblical facts but I’m deceiving myself 😂 you don’t have any facts but you’re the one that’s right😂

Classic example of modern Christian. We need total reorientation in Christianity.
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:57am On Dec 07, 2025
SpencerForbes:
Shifting the goal post again. You just agreed they had differences but you just want to shift the goal post again. But I’ll follow you. They had disagreements on baptism, circumcision and even Jewish and gentile practices. So they had to disagree a lot of times without resulting to pointing of fingers.
One was bold and the other wasn’t bold enough. Is that the same line of thoughts??
Did the Apostles gave them laid down rules regarding the highlighted and they disagreed?
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:58am On Dec 07, 2025
SpencerForbes:
I’m giving you points with biblical facts but I’m deceiving myself 😂 you don’t have any facts but you’re the one that’s right😂
Classic example of modern Christian. We need total reorientation in Christianity.
Whatever makes two people have serious disagreement on sacred matters is evidence that they are not worshiping the same God!🙂
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by Nobody: 11:03am On Dec 07, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Did the Apostles gave them laid down rules regarding the highlighted and they disagreed?
Did the apostle had laid down rules or they kept teaching and admonishing each other?

Where in the Bible did you read apostolic commandments? Show me how many times it appeared in the Bible?

Even Paul and Barnabas had to spilt up because of minor disagreement.
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by Nobody: 11:04am On Dec 07, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Whatever makes two people have serious disagreement on sacred matters is evidence that they are not worshiping the same God!🙂
So Paul and Peter weren’t worshipping the same God? I rest my case.
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:16am On Dec 07, 2025
SpencerForbes:
Did the apostle had laid down rules or they kept teaching and admonishing each other?
Where in the Bible did you read apostolic commandments? Show me how many times it appeared in the Bible?
Even Paul and Barnabas had to spilt up because of minor disagreement.
The Apostles in Jerusalem set the rules and all Christians in the first century were following the rules set by the Apostles! Act 2:42; 15:28-29
Paul and Barnabas disagree not on teaching but regarding Mark whether to take him along on their missionary journey! Act 15:37-39
Read your Bible don't just follow pastors!🙂
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:17am On Dec 07, 2025
SpencerForbes:
So Paul and Peter weren’t worshipping the same God? I rest my case.
They never had any disagreement on TEACHING!
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by Nobody: 11:22am On Dec 07, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
They never had a disagreement on TEACHING!
Okay, keep shifting the goalposts. Even if I quote the whole scripture, you’ll tell me they didn’t disagree on teachings of Christ and if I quote another, you’ll tell me they didn’t disagree on teachings of Christ after his death etc.

I know the game already. Have a blessed day✌️
Re: When Did The Kingdom Of God Come? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:59pm On Dec 07, 2025
SpencerForbes:
Okay, keep shifting the goalposts. Even if I quote the whole scripture, you’ll tell me they didn’t disagree on teachings of Christ and if I quote another, you’ll tell me they didn’t disagree on teachings of Christ after his death etc. I know the game already. Have a blessed day✌️
God always grant Jesus' prayers {John 11:42} so when he prayed for oneness among his disciples {John 17:22} religions failing to have that oneness are not his followers.

Simple as ABC!🙂
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