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Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by okeke6969: 9:49am On Dec 09, 2025
Lukuluku69:
You are so blind that you can't see it even if a Doctoral Thesis is written about the benefits of Islam and being Muslims. You wont see it still.
The only benefit I see is ISLAMABAD🤣🤣🤣
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by pacino26(m): 9:51am On Dec 09, 2025
Where is the debate Na? I was looking forward to see HOA members or their folks in the National Assembly debating. So na usual complaints on twitter by some enlightened few.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by mclloyd22(m): 10:01am On Dec 09, 2025
It’s like new no plenty today. 10am nothing to write home about
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Lukuluku69(m): 10:01am On Dec 09, 2025
okeke6969:
The only benefit I see is ISLAMABAD🤣🤣🤣
And ISLAMABAD simply means " The City/Town of Islam"

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Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by delpee(f): 10:07am On Dec 09, 2025
Imagine what 10bill can do in the health, education and water/sanitation sectors for the good of the people.

Progress will be far from the North as long as their governors choose to prioritise wants and luxuries over needs. Unfortunately, the people are so heavily docile and indoctrinated. No resistance at all. Very sad indeed!
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by osuofia2(m): 10:07am On Dec 09, 2025
geoworldedu:
Wasteful country. Why can't someone in Nigeria also create a religion, let it go viral so that other countries will be touring our country like this? If we can't invent technology that will be well sought after by other countries, then at least we can invent a good religion, far better than Xtianity and Islam which can bring future people to our land for pilgrimage. But no, African follow follow is like City and Arsenal in the EPL title race grin
Try it in the North and you will be stoned to death
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Bahamas95(m): 10:08am On Dec 09, 2025
Fullishness at its peak.




The world would have been a better place without religion.....They waste money on pilgrimage every year but their heart is darker than charcoal.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by gare(f): 10:09am On Dec 09, 2025
naptu2:
Pilgrims pay the Federal Government, through the National Hajj Commission (NAHCON) for their pilgrimage.

The government's role (through the National Hajj Commission and the National Christian Pilgrimage Commission) is to receive money from pilgrims and help them organise the pilgrimage. The government helps the pilgrims to negotiate with airlines and get a good deal (discounts, etc), but the airfare is paid by the pilgrims. The government provides consular services to ensure that the registered pilgrims can enter the Holy Lands and that they are safe there, etc. but the cost of the pilgrimage is borne by the pilgrims.

The National Hajj Commission has set a deadline of December 5th for pilgrims to pay for the pilgrimage, but the Kebbi State Government says that some of its citizens will not be able to pay by that date and so it is giving them a loan, that is, it will pay on their behalf and then they can repay the state government later.

This has sparked a debate among northerners on social media.




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all of this should be stopped if you want to go sponsor yourself, why remove petrol subsidy, while this is subsidize
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by osuofia2(m): 10:09am On Dec 09, 2025
Lukuluku69:
You are so blind that you can't see it even if a Doctoral Thesis is written about the benefits of Islam and being Muslims. You wont see it still.
Benefit? You say, we are already seeing the results across Northern Nigerian, high birth rate, high illiteracy, insecurity, etc.
Who prioritize religion over basic needs of lives
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by omooba969(m): 10:09am On Dec 09, 2025
We blacks are not normal, I swear! grin
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by delpee(f): 10:10am On Dec 09, 2025
Moveittothem:
Islam is more important than worldly things like State affairs.

That why Muslims want sharia, as to address situations like this more islamically.

It's Blasphemous to think a pilgrimage to mecca isn't more important than worldly state development.
Pilgrimage is desirable but it's for those who can afford it. Isn't that what the Holy Book says?
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Lukuluku69(m): 10:11am On Dec 09, 2025
osuofia2:
Benefit? You say, we are already seeing the results across Northern Nigerian, high birth rate, high illiteracy, insecurity, etc
Very true.

Then in places where there are miniscule Muslim population and less of Islam, can you tell us what we have there starting from your own Village and neighboring Towns?
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by captaininiobong(m): 10:14am On Dec 09, 2025
If there is no economic value attached it should not be approved.

Go to his state you will see lot of people suffering, insecurity and banditry ongoing.

He can't use 10billion to tackle food security and modernization.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by SmartPolician: 10:15am On Dec 09, 2025
Lukuluku69:
You are so blind that you can't see it even if a Doctoral Thesis is written about the benefits of Islam and being Muslims. You wont see it still.
Answer hia question and stop wasting a precious cyberspace
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Lukuluku69(m): 10:23am On Dec 09, 2025
SmartPolician:
Answer hia question and stop wasting a precious cyberspace
That same question has been answered here on Nairaland before, and if you want to eead the answers again, feel free to search thru countless threads on those questions.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Akaujaa(m): 10:26am On Dec 09, 2025
Why don't other countries come to Africa for religious pilgrimage? Nigeria spending huge amount of money every year on pilgrimage is one of the most useless ventures. Over the years, what has been the gain of all these charades? We don't even take time to evaluate the pros and cons. We just keep doing things that are worthless to us. Stealing and wasting tax payers money on irrelevant things. Shame on Africa, a bewitched continent.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by osuofia2(m): 10:28am On Dec 09, 2025
Lukuluku69:
Very true.

Then in places where there are miniscule Muslim population and less of Islam, can you tell us what we have there starting from your own Village and neighboring Towns?
Religion have not helped humanity, it's only keep hope alive and a form of control.
I have no problem with identifying with religion but it's only becomes a problem when one start doing it without sense, go to the West, many things we pray for they have it in abundance and you don't need to pray before getting it.
Religion has created more problem for us than anything, if you want to be truthful to yourself you can see the problem around you
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Onewazobia(m): 10:29am On Dec 09, 2025
Moveittothem:
Islam is more important than worldly things like State affairs.

That why Muslims want sharia, as to address situations like this more islamically.

It's Blasphemous to think a pilgrimage to mecca isn't more important than worldly state development.
Hmmmm
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by naptu2(op): 10:35am On Dec 09, 2025
Akaujaa:
Why don't other countries come to Africa for religious pilgrimage?
People from many countries come to Nigeria for religious pilgrimage.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by maasoap(m): 10:40am On Dec 09, 2025
algomachine:
Backward people. What has Islam done for you guys that you love it so much? Without our oil and resources in the South, you guys would be worse than Chad and Niger (fellow Islamic countries), so I ask in ALL honesty, what exactly has Islam done for Northern Nigerians or Moslems?
You are attacking Islam instead of focusing on the Muslims who misplaced their own priorities. Does that make whatever you believe in better or perfect? The answer is No. There are people who misplace their own priorities in every organisation. Stop attacking Islam, stop asking rubbish questions
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Onewazobia(m): 10:42am On Dec 09, 2025
Penguin2:
Nothing to say but Allah Akbar🤓

My region is progressing so I have no business with them.

When we are trying to counsel them to vote the right candidates to power, they will call us expansionists.

They are getting what they deserve.


Oga Nigerian politicians are all the same

Next!
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Lukuluku69(m): 10:43am On Dec 09, 2025
osuofia2:
Religion have not helped humanity, it's only keep hope alive and a form of control.
I have no problem with identifying with religion but it's only becomes a problem when one start doing it without sense, go to the West, many things we pray for they have it in abundance and you don't need to pray before getting it.
Religion has created more problem for us than anything, if you want to be truthful to yourself you can see the problem around you
1. Religion has not helped humanity, abi? Why then single out Islam for your diatribes?
2. Many of the things we pray for here are in abundance in the West? May be yes and may be know. It depends on what you are praying for. Many have shelter over their heads here yet. Still pray for Shelter. We rat here top yet pray for food. What am I saying? Our aim and aspirations are different, and you can't use yours to gauge and measure my life. I may be comfortable and satisfied with my state in a 2 bed room apartment while you pray for a Duolex or indeed stay in a duplex. To now say that your life is better than mine is only subjective as you alone can internalise the "gains and benefits" of staying in a duplex.
3. Religion has not created any problem. Religion came to regulate man's life. To live it a notch better than that of the Animals where there are seemingly no rules. The strong and the powerful usually hold sway. Religion only brought rules so that man can be above the brutes. However Men, taking on the roles of God's Assitant, have muddied the whole thing that hardly can you tell what God commands and what men commands.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Lukuluku69(m): 10:44am On Dec 09, 2025
zinaunreal:
You guys are a menace to society.
Your opinion and like the hole at your rear-end, everyone has them.

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Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by HeatSeeker(m): 10:44am On Dec 09, 2025
Lukuluku69:
You are so blind that you can't see it even if a Doctoral Thesis is written about the benefits of Islam and being Muslims. You wont see it still.
That is the reason why government must grant loan for you to go for haj undecided sad such a a disappointment.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by zinaunreal(m): 10:47am On Dec 09, 2025
Lukuluku69:
Your opinion and like the hole at your rear-end, everyone has them.

😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣
Aboki kawai
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by osuofia2(m): 10:47am On Dec 09, 2025
Lukuluku69:
1. Religion has not helped humanity, abi? Why then single out Islam for your diatribes?
2. Many of the things we pray for here are in abundance in the West? May be yes and may be know. It depends on what you are praying for. Many have shelter over their heads here yet. Still pray for Shelter. We rat here top yet pray for food. What am I saying? Our aim and aspirations are different, and you can't use yours to gauge and measure my life. I may be comfortable and satisfied with my state in a 2 bed room apartment while you pray for a Duolex or indeed stay in a duplex. To now say that your life is better than mine is only subjective as you alone can internalise the "gains and benefits" of staying in a duplex.
3. Religion has not created any problem. Religion came to regulate man's life. To live it a notch better than that of the Animals where there are seemingly no rules. The strong and the powerful usually hold sway. Religion only brought rules so that man can be above the brutes. However Men, taking on the roles of God's Assitant, have muddied the whole thing that hardly can you tell what God commands and what men commands.
Thank you for your response, I like the way you responed to my quotes devoid of insults as typical naira Landers would do. I singled out islam because the subject of discussion happened In an islamic majority zone, trust me, if this had happened in the South I will narrow the discussion down to Christianity.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Lukuluku69(m): 10:50am On Dec 09, 2025
HeatSeeker:
That is the reason why government must grant loan for you to go for haj undecided sad such a a disappointment.
You can debate the appropriateness of the Loan or not, personally as a Muslim myself, I think it is wrong. Islam says embark on the Pilgrimage IF YOU HAVE THE MEANS. It is said that you can't take a Loan nor be owning somebody and embark on that Journey. You must provide enough essentials for the family you are leaving behind while on that journey.

So, the Govt/Governor is wrong to set aside #10b of State Funds as Loans for Hajj. That's my position but to now blame the action of this Governor or Governmenton Islam is where I think the guy I mentioned got it wrong and that's what I want to point out.

A Governor in Imo State once erected a Statue of Jesus for a princely sum of #500m, we never blame Christinaity for thet but the Governor.
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by WorldRichest: 10:51am On Dec 09, 2025
Loans for Pilgrimage? Let us continue to waste our future
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by advanceDNA: 10:52am On Dec 09, 2025
Lukuluku69:
You are so blind that you can't see it even if a Doctoral Thesis is written about the benefits of Islam and being Muslims. You wont see it still.
U calling someone blind but fail to look around you....
Be truthful to yourself sir ...if islam is not in the world today..what benefit will the world miss.?

Ur contribution to the world is deaths since ur prophet started it with his lesser jihad, which u keep blaming the extreme one among you for.......but the truth is ur Islam is naturally extreme in its practice...

Ur religion and shariah is by force through lesser jihad...
It's the same wahala if someone doesn't want to do islam again....
Na you pple bomb world trade center, na una dey put bomb for under wear enter plane....na una be Boko haram, na una be ISIS, Alqaeda, ISWAP, ... So which benefit are u talking about sir ??
Re: Northerners Debate ₦10 Billilon Kebbi State Loan For Pilgrims. by Fujiyama: 10:52am On Dec 09, 2025
omooba969:
We blacks are not normal, I swear! grin
^^^
grin

We are sir, we are!
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