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Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 4:18pm On Dec 09, 2025
BlackfireX:
No need I ask you questions for now.

Ask your question one by one and I will reply one after the other....and yes those questions are simple like ice cream.

Tell me a Christian community that is still existing after Muslims invaded there land? Jizya so I pay you money after kidnapping my community is that not like bandits( see don't let's crack open the foul odour of islam) see the way you painted the dhimi story beautifully do I look like unintelligent to you.


All the land occupied by Muslims today was through jihad.

Imagine I come to your house by invading it and holding you hostage telling you until you pay some amount you will be free to briefly move around.

We are not slaves do you understand


Ask your questions Eru and let me answer
You just called me eru - slave.
Can we just hold a clubhouse call now or any platform you choose, so we can do one topic at a time. Writing like this won't take us anywhere.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by BlackfireX: 7:07pm On Dec 09, 2025
muslim100:
You just called me eru - slave.
Can we just hold a clubhouse call now or any platform you choose, so we can do one topic at a time. Writing like this won't take us anywhere.
Yes I called you ERU....


So if arabu level called you Abdul you are happy


But I called you the same in yoruba language you are angry?



Ask the questions here let me answer
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 10:28pm On Dec 09, 2025
BlackfireX:
Yes I called you ERU....


So if arabu level called you Abdul you are happy


But I called you the same in yoruba language you are angry?



Ask the questions here let me answer
Christians always show their ignorance everywhere 😂😂 😂.

For the record - Arabs don't say Abdul, it doesn't have any meaning in Arabic, only non Arabs say Abdul.

Abdul is a meaningless word.
Abd is the Arabic word for slave or servant, and no Arab calls anyone Abd.

The names are as follows Abdullah, Abdurrahman, Abdurraheem, Abdulmalik etc. meaning servant of Allah, servant of the most merciful, servant of the most beneficent, servant of the true king. etc.

So it is pure ignorance to say "Arabs say Abdul" - they don't even know it exists.

Let me school you Abeg
Abd - Servant
Al - The
Rahman - The most beneficient

Joining them - Abd'AlRahman - AbdArrahman pronounced Abdurrahman together it becomes a posessive sentence. Servant of the most beneficent.

Abdul means - Servant the
Al'abd means - The servant

Thanks to me, your ignorance have been cleared on this matter.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 11:02pm On Dec 09, 2025
BlackfireX:
Yes I called you ERU....


So if arabu level called you Abdul you are happy


But I called you the same in yoruba language you are angry?



Ask the questions here let me answer
My First Question is a single multilayered set of questions on TRINITY

Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Lot, Jacob, David, Solomon etc. These prophets were of God, sent to deliver the message of truth to mankind.
1. Give an evidence which shows they know anything about trinity?
2. Did they teach about trinity, where is the scriptural evidence?
3. Did the old testament ever implicitly or explicitly point out that the holy spirit or Jesus is God, where is the evidence?
4. Jews were the followers of Moses, why didn't moses teach them about the trinity, if he did show the evidence?
5. Why is the only verse that talked about trinity (1 John 5:7) removed from the bible?
6. If trinity is a prerequisite to getting saved - which of these prophets is saved?
7. Show me just one verse in the bible that shows that the holy spirit can be worshipped.
8. Why wasn't the Trinitarian Dogma mainstream Christianity until the counclis of Nicea and Constantinople?
9. Why were the earliest Christians either Arians, modalists, Unitarians or Adoptionists and not Trinitarians?
10. Show were any biblical prophet taught that the Godhead as three coequal and coeternal beings.
11. Show any verse that even implicitly shows that the Holy spirit is coequal and coeternal with God the father.
12. If any Prophet taught the trinity before Christianity why is there no historical evidence that shows so?
13. Why is it that not even one follower of previous prophets ever knew about the concept of trinity.
14. Show one place where the holy spirit is worshipped as God as coequal and coeternal
15. Why did jesus say the Father is the only true God in John 17:3, while it will mean he eas lying?
16. Why didn't the Apostles teach the doctrine?
17. The Church today makes the trinity the bedrock of Christianity and calls deniers "nonbelievers in christ", while the earliest Apostles and Church fathers never ever mentioned the word or taught about the concept. Does this mean that the 4th century Christians knew more than the earliest Christians?

These are my first set of Questions. You have as long as it takes to answer them - 5 days won't be too short I think 🤔.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by BlackfireX: 10:41am On Dec 10, 2025
muslim100:
My First Question is a single multilayered set of questions on TRINITY

Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Lot, Jacob, David, Solomon etc. These prophets were of God, sent to deliver the message of truth to mankind.
1. Give an evidence which shows they know anything about trinity?
2. Did they teach about trinity, where is the scriptural evidence?
3. Did the old testament ever implicitly or explicitly point out that the holy spirit or Jesus is God, where is the evidence?
4. Jews were the followers of Moses, why didn't moses teach them about the trinity, if he did show the evidence?
5. Why is the only verse that talked about trinity (1 John 5:7) removed from the bible?
6. If trinity is a prerequisite to getting saved - which of these prophets is saved?
7. Show me just one verse in the bible that shows that the holy spirit can be worshipped.
8. Why wasn't the Trinitarian Dogma mainstream Christianity until the counclis of Nicea and Constantinople?
9. Why were the earliest Christians either Arians, modalists, Unitarians or Adoptionists and not Trinitarians?
10. Show were any biblical prophet taught that the Godhead as three coequal and coeternal beings.
11. Show any verse that even implicitly shows that the Holy spirit is coequal and coeternal with God the father.
12. If any Prophet taught the trinity before Christianity why is there no historical evidence that shows so?
13. Why is it that not even one follower of previous prophets ever knew about the concept of trinity.
14. Show one place where the holy spirit is worshipped as God as coequal and coeternal
15. Why did jesus say the Father is the only true God in John 17:3, while it will mean he eas lying?
16. Why didn't the Apostles teach the doctrine?
17. The Church today makes the trinity the bedrock of Christianity and calls deniers "nonbelievers in christ", while the earliest Apostles and Church fathers never ever mentioned the word or taught about the concept. Does this mean that the 4th century Christians knew more than the earliest Christians?

These are my first set of Questions. You have as long as it takes to answer them - 5 days won't be too short I
I thought you wanted to ask hard questions since is this ones you asked bo problemo.


Your Questions is narrowed down to Trinity, and I can see your misinformation and mindset, for if Allah and Muhammed can get it wrong by saying trinity is Jesus Mary and Allah...very funny ... how much more you.

Let me start from question 15 that zakir naik used in his dawah John 17 vs 3.
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


Very beautiful verse, but if you read the other verses it shows the divinity preexisting of Jesus Christ Yasua Al massih.

Let's check it out...can an ordinary person say this..

John 17 vs 1
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

John17 vs 5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

John 17 vs 10
And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

Beautiful verses from that same John 17 that shows the Messaiship and divinity and Pre existing of Yasua, the judge of the world.

If The Holy Son was not lying in vs 3 obviously he wasn't lying in the verses above

Should I go on or move to the other item
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by BlackfireX: 10:57am On Dec 10, 2025
muslim100:
My First Question is a single multilayered set of questions on TRINITY

Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Lot, Jacob, David, Solomon etc. These prophets were of God, sent to deliver the message of truth to mankind.
1. Give an evidence which shows they know anything about trinity?
2. Did they teach about trinity, where is the scriptural evidence?
3. Did the old testament ever implicitly or explicitly point out that the holy spirit or Jesus is God, where is the evidence?
4. Jews were the followers of Moses, why didn't moses teach them about the trinity, if he did show the evidence?
5. Why is the only verse that talked about trinity (1 John 5:7) removed from the bible?
6. If trinity is a prerequisite to getting saved - which of these prophets is saved?
7. Show me just one verse in the bible that shows that the holy spirit can be worshipped.
8. Why wasn't the Trinitarian Dogma mainstream Christianity until the counclis of Nicea and Constantinople?
9. Why were the earliest Christians either Arians, modalists, Unitarians or Adoptionists and not Trinitarians?
10. Show were any biblical prophet taught that the Godhead as three coequal and coeternal beings.
11. Show any verse that even implicitly shows that the Holy spirit is coequal and coeternal with God the father.
12. If any Prophet taught the trinity before Christianity why is there no historical evidence that shows so?
13. Why is it that not even one follower of previous prophets ever knew about the concept of trinity.
14. Show one place where the holy spirit is worshipped as God as coequal and coeternal
15. Why did jesus say the Father is the only true God in John 17:3, while it will mean he eas lying?
16. Why didn't the Apostles teach the doctrine?
17. The Church today makes the trinity the bedrock of Christianity and calls deniers "nonbelievers in christ", while the earliest Apostles and Church fathers never ever mentioned the word or taught about the concept. Does this mean that the 4th century Christians knew more than the earliest Christians?

These are my first set of Questions. You have as long as it takes to answer them - 5 days won't be too short I think 🤔.
I don come again
Your question in number 5 is confusing.

You mean that there is no trinity verse in the bible and that 1 John 5 vs 7 was put inside or what?


There are many verses of the bible that talks about ONE Yahweh that was expressed as the FATHER.. the WORD OF GOD that became flesh and dwell among us and died for our sins as we can't save ourselves, Christianity is God looking for and to redeemed the fallen man to himsel.....the HOLY SPIRIT.

When you read Genesis it shows this beautiful and wonderful God creating existence in unity...shall we

Gen 1 vs 1 to 3(trinity) watch the beautiful verse speak to your soul
King James Version (KJV):
​Genesis 1:1-31 (KJV)
​1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
​2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
​3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.


The Father....The Word( let there be) ....The Spirit of God.


I still have more if you want
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by BlackfireX: 11:08am On Dec 10, 2025
muslim100:
My First Question is a single multilayered set of questions on TRINITY

Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Lot, Jacob, David, Solomon etc. These prophets were of God, sent to deliver the message of truth to mankind.
1. Give an evidence which shows they know anything about trinity?
2. Did they teach about trinity, where is the scriptural evidence?
3. Did the old testament ever implicitly or explicitly point out that the holy spirit or Jesus is God, where is the evidence?
4. Jews were the followers of Moses, why didn't moses teach them about the trinity, if he did show the evidence?
5. Why is the only verse that talked about trinity (1 John 5:7) removed from the bible?
6. If trinity is a prerequisite to getting saved - which of these prophets is saved?
7. Show me just one verse in the bible that shows that the holy spirit can be worshipped.
8. Why wasn't the Trinitarian Dogma mainstream Christianity until the counclis of Nicea and Constantinople?
9. Why were the earliest Christians either Arians, modalists, Unitarians or Adoptionists and not Trinitarians?
10. Show were any biblical prophet taught that the Godhead as three coequal and coeternal beings.
11. Show any verse that even implicitly shows that the Holy spirit is coequal and coeternal with God the father.
12. If any Prophet taught the trinity before Christianity why is there no historical evidence that shows so?
13. Why is it that not even one follower of previous prophets ever knew about the concept of trinity.
14. Show one place where the holy spirit is worshipped as God as coequal and coeternal
15. Why did jesus say the Father is the only true God in John 17:3, while it will mean he eas lying?
16. Why didn't the Apostles teach the doctrine?
17. The Church today makes the trinity the bedrock of Christianity and calls deniers "nonbelievers in christ", while the earliest Apostles and Church fathers never ever mentioned the word or taught about the concept. Does this mean that the 4th century Christians knew more than the earliest Christians?

These are my first set of Questions. You have as long as it takes to answer them - 5 days won't be too short I think 🤔.
Question 16 and 17

It is either you have never read the bible ( love story between God and man) or you are acting out dawah script but aall the same this is the answer.


When the Lord Jesus was about to go back to the Father ... He among many things He taught the disciples told them this .... let's read those beautiful words of our Lord and saviour.

​Matthew 28:19
​Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

This He told the Apostles ( in which the Quran dosent even know there names) can you see the great commission, can you see the Divinity, can you see the trinity, can you see the work given to the disciples

I am coming let me get some milk
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by Explore2xmore: 12:15pm On Dec 10, 2025
@BlackfireX
You totally failed to tackle the questions but just sidestepped them. Not a single Old Testament prophet ever taught about the Trinity, and you didn’t provide any evidence to the contrary. When God said, Let there be light, it wasn’t about a second divine person it was simply God speaking, not a Trinity. Jesus referred to the Father as the only true God (John 17:3), which completely undermines the idea of co-equal Trinitarian claims. You didn’t show any verse where the Holy Spirit is worshipped by any prophet or apostle. Doctrines that pop up centuries later in church councils aren’t original revelations they’re just later interpretations.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by Explore2xmore: 12:16pm On Dec 10, 2025
@BlackfireX
You totally failed to tackle the questions but just sidestepped them. Not a single Old Testament prophet ever taught about the Trinity, and you didn’t provide any evidence to the contrary. When God said, Let there be light, it wasn’t about a second divine person it was simply God speaking, not a Trinity. Jesus referred to the Father as the only true God (John 17:3), which completely undermines the idea of co-equal Trinitarian claims. You didn’t show any verse where the Holy Spirit is worshipped by any prophet or apostle. Doctrines that pop up centuries later in church councils aren’t original revelations they’re just later interpretations.

You should take advantage of the 5 days time frame given you to respond.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 1:05pm On Dec 10, 2025
BlackfireX:
Question 16 and 17

It is either you have never read the bible ( love story between God and man) or you are acting out dawah script but aall the same this is the answer.


When the Lord Jesus was about to go back to the Father ... He among many things He taught the disciples told them this .... let's read those beautiful words of our Lord and saviour.

​Matthew 28:19
​Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

This He told the Apostles ( in which the Quran dosent even know there names) can you see the great commission, can you see the Divinity, can you see the trinity, can you see the work given to the disciples

I am coming let me get some milk
1 want you to answer my questions one after the other.
Also, how does "Baptism in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit" mean Jesus = Jehova = Holy spirit and they are coequal and coeternal. ?? How on earth!

If I say, do so and so because of Me, my father and wife. Does it mean we are coequal coeternal beings?

Please be serious for once. This was the reason I wanted a one on one debate.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 1:12pm On Dec 10, 2025
BlackfireX:
I thought you wanted to ask hard questions since is this ones you asked bo problemo.


Your Questions is narrowed down to Trinity, and I can see your misinformation and mindset, for if Allah and Muhammed can get it wrong by saying trinity is Jesus Mary and Allah...very funny ... how much more you.

Let me start from question 15 that zakir naik used in his dawah John 17 vs 3.
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


Very beautiful verse, but if you read the other verses it shows the divinity preexisting of Jesus Christ Yasua Al massih.

Let's check it out...can an ordinary person say this..

John 17 vs 1
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

John17 vs 5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

John 17 vs 10
And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

Beautiful verses from that same John 17 that shows the Messaiship and divinity and Pre existing of Yasua, the judge of the world.

If The Holy Son was not lying in vs 3 obviously he wasn't lying in the verses above

Should I go on or move to the other item
Where does any of these verses show that Moses or Abraham taught their followers trinity?
Where do These verses show that the Holy spirit has the same power and is as old as the father?

All these verses are 💯 showing that jesus is a subordinate. He was asking the father (God) to do something for him.

If Jesus was coequal a d coeternal - Then why did he have to ask someone that has same power with him to help him do something??

I wonder how these logical thoughts are hard for 🤔.

Please 🥺🥺🙏🙏, These are not answers!

If You are equal and have same power with me and you ask me - Glorify me, Glorify thy son! I will say who is this one, do it by your self - You are the same as me, I have the same power as you do.


Jesus literally panicked on the cross "Eli, Eli, Why have you forsaken me" - You only cry to your master/a gteater being for something you are unable.


Please I need answers.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 1:18pm On Dec 10, 2025
BlackfireX:
I don come again
Your question in number 5 is confusing.

You mean that there is no trinity verse in the bible and that 1 John 5 vs 7 was put inside or what?


There are many verses of the bible that talks about ONE Yahweh that was expressed as the FATHER.. the WORD OF GOD that became flesh and dwell among us and died for our sins as we can't save ourselves, Christianity is God looking for and to redeemed the fallen man to himsel.....the HOLY SPIRIT.

When you read Genesis it shows this beautiful and wonderful God creating existence in unity...shall we

Gen 1 vs 1 to 3(trinity) watch the beautiful verse speak to your soul
King James Version (KJV):
​Genesis 1:1-31 (KJV)
​1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
​2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
​3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.


The Father....The Word( let there be) ....The Spirit of God.


I still have more if you want
These are not answers.

Where does this say
The father/Son/Holy spirit are coequal (have same power) and coeternal.

1 john 5:7 was removed from 3 versions of the bible totally. You can google it.

The word of God in the verse is "Be"!

Also it is funny how Christians falsely translate these verses because they originally belonged to JEWs and no jew ever translated it as trinity. And God did not fault them instead he brought more prophets from among them.

Throughout history Jews were the chosen of God - Why didn't any jew ever know that the verses mean trinity, Jesus didn't also say it means trinity. Nothing in the Bible says so only Church fathers.

🥺 You don't have answers. These scripts are not working.

If only we were on a call, CHAI
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 1:21pm On Dec 10, 2025
Explore2xmore:
@BlackfireX
You totally failed to tackle the questions but just sidestepped them. Not a single Old Testament prophet ever taught about the Trinity, and you didn’t provide any evidence to the contrary. When God said, Let there be light, it wasn’t about a second divine person it was simply God speaking, not a Trinity. Jesus referred to the Father as the only true God (John 17:3), which completely undermines the idea of co-equal Trinitarian claims. You didn’t show any verse where the Holy Spirit is worshipped by any prophet or apostle. Doctrines that pop up centuries later in church councils aren’t original revelations they’re just later interpretations.

You should take advantage of the 5 days time frame given you to respond.
Thank you very much.
I gave a series of questions so he could answer each one of them, but he is trying to aggregate everything and give summarised answers - which is not acceptable.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by BlackfireX: 4:09pm On Dec 10, 2025
muslim100:
Thank you very much.
I gave a series of questions so he could answer each one of them, but he is trying to aggregate everything and give summarised answers - which is not acceptable.
If you and your fellow ERU have been patient I would get to that... you gave me 5 days abi?

From my busy schedule I am trying to reply you.

You asked a question calmly wait for the reply

Are u scared?
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 5:30pm On Dec 10, 2025
BlackfireX:
If you and your fellow ERU have been patient I would get to that... you gave me 5 days abi?

From my busy schedule I am trying to reply you.

You asked a question calmly wait for the reply

Are u scared?
Scared of you that cannot even give a single answer?

For the record, sha yourr replies are not answers. They are all off point.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by TV01(m): 6:07pm On Dec 10, 2025
Explore2xmore:
@BlackfireX
You totally failed to tackle the questions but just sidestepped them. Not a single Old Testament prophet ever taught about the Trinity, and you didn’t provide any evidence to the contrary.
Here' an Old Testament reference for you. Not necessariiy because you gainsaid, but for anyone who truly wants revelation. God is real and Hs name is not allah. Hs name is Yahweh, The I am That I am. Come to Christ and be saved.

Isaiah 48:16 - “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me.”


TV
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by TV01(m): 6:15pm On Dec 10, 2025
muslim100:
Christians always show their ignorance everywhere 😂😂 😂.

For the record - Arabs don't say Abdul, it doesn't have any meaning in Arabic, only non Arabs say Abdul.

Abdul is a meaningless word.
Abd is the Arabic word for slave or servant, and no Arab calls anyone Abd.

The names are as follows Abdullah, Abdurrahman, Abdurraheem, Abdulmalik etc. meaning servant of Allah, servant of the most merciful, servant of the most beneficent, servant of the true king. etc.

So it is pure ignorance to say "Arabs say Abdul" - they don't even know it exists.

Let me school you Abeg
Abd - Servant
Al - The
Rahman - The most beneficient

Joining them - Abd'AlRahman - AbdArrahman pronounced Abdurrahman together it becomes a posessive sentence. Servant of the most beneficent.

Abdul means - Servant the
Al'abd means - The servant

Thanks to me, your ignorance have been cleared on this matter.
All the above is inconsequential.

1. Your scriptures declare all men are slaves of allah
2. As you noted, Abd\Abdi or variations can be translated as slave or servant in context and socially black people are derogatorily referred to as slave by the Arab\Arabized world. Many bear the name Abdi.

Long-winded (and needless) "scholarizing" does not change that.


TV
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by Explore2xmore: 7:09pm On Dec 10, 2025
TV01:
Here' an Old Testament reference for you. Not necessariiy because you gainsaid, but for anyone who truly wants revelation. God is real and Hs name is not allah. Hs name is Yahweh, The I am That I am. Come to Christ and be saved.

Isaiah 48:16 - “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me.”


TV
Be assured that Muslims absolutely acknowledge the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. The name Allah isn’t a different deity; it’s simply the Arabic word for the same One God that you refer to as Yahweh. In fact, Arabic-speaking Christians have been using Allah for centuries without any issue.

When it comes to Isaiah 48:16, Christians often interpret it through a Trinitarian lens, but Jews who have preserved that text don’t see it as evidence of the Trinity. This highlights that interpretations can be more about theology than straightforward facts.

When you say come to Christ, that reflects your faith perspective. Just as you extend an invitation to Christianity, Muslims invite others to embrace pure monotheism not out of animosity, but from a place of genuine belief.

True belief is most powerful when it’s grounded in evidence and reason, rather than simply passed down through tradition.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by TV01(m): 7:39pm On Dec 10, 2025
Explore2xmore:
Be assured that Muslims absolutely acknowledge the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. The name Allah isn’t a different deity; it’s simply the Arabic word for the same One God that you refer to as Yahweh. In fact, Arabic-speaking Christians have been using Allah for centuries without any issue.
Nope, the word allah is not a personal name, it's a generic word for god. Yahweh, The I Am that I Am, is a name revealed in both the Hebrew & Christian scriptures. Neither is there any connection or continuity between the Judeo-Christian scriptures and the koranic text.

And no again, the god of muhammed is not the god of the Hebrew or Christian scriptures. Is the god presented by muhammed a Father? Are followers of the god of muhammed not expressly named as slaves?

Explore2xmore:
When it comes to Isaiah 48:16, Christians often interpret it through a Trinitarian lens, but Jews who have preserved that text don’t see it as evidence of the Trinity. This highlights that interpretations can be more about theology than straightforward facts.
I didn't interpret it, neither did I translate it. As presented, it reads expressly and unambiguously. I only posted the one verse in response to the claim that there is not one OT verse. There are others, across both testaments, which present a compelling portrait as God presenting in a multi-faceted manner.

Explore2xmore:
When you say come to Christ, that reflects your faith perspective. Just as you extend an invitation to Christianity, Muslims invite others to embrace pure monotheism not out of animosity, but from a place of genuine belief.
I appreciate that may be the case and will not deny anyone's right to believe as they will and proselytise accordingly - as long as they do not compel or do any harm.

But hinging on "pure monotheism" is mans insistence on how God must be, not Gods clear revelation of Himself to man - and indeed, "The Lord our God is One"

Explore2xmore:
True belief is most powerful when it’s grounded in evidence and reason, rather than simply passed down through tradition.
Christianity is attested to prophetically, historically, archeologically and, most importantly in some respects, by it's practical outworking. The so called ROP produces anything but. And, the ROP has no recorded positive impact on humanity or, record of eliminating societal pathologies - only embedding and amplifying them.


TV
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 10:21pm On Dec 10, 2025
TV01:
All the above is inconsequential.

1. Your scriptures declare all men are slaves of allah
2. As you noted, Abd\Abdi or variations can be translated as slave or servant in context and socially black people are derogatorily referred to as slave by the Arab\Arabized world. Many bear the name Abdi.

Long-winded (and needless) "scholarizing" does not change that.


TV
Where should I even start answering this one!
1. All men are servants of God - who even denies that?
2. "ARABS CALL BLACKS ABD" Please there are millions of Arab videos on the internet with black people, I want just one video as evidence.
3. Abd - servant, Abdi - My servant, Abdul - no meaning. Hence I don't even know what you are trying to pass.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by BlackfireX: 9:42am On Dec 11, 2025
TV01:
Here' an Old Testament reference for you. Not necessariiy because you gainsaid, but for anyone who truly wants revelation. God is real and Hs name is not allah. Hs name is Yahweh, The I am That I am. Come to Christ and be saved.

Isaiah 48:16 - “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me.”


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My brother you see this people eeeeh


You asked me 20 questions
I am trying to answer it from where it can be understood... infact the ERU arabu gave me 5 days

When I answered some just a day , he panicked and said I didn't answer the old testament... ERu why not wait it will be answered.

People who lie for a living


The problem is they don't even know or read the Bible...if Allah can call the trinity Jesus Mary and Allah...who are ERU arabu to understand you.


Nice response from you...from old testament.

And more abound in the old testament
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by BlackfireX: 9:46am On Dec 11, 2025
muslim100:
Scared of you that cannot even give a single answer?

For the record, sha yourr replies are not answers. They are all off point.
Hahaha

Off point ? Your questions are so simple that the answers are so easy ...but you panicked ...when answers keep coming..why not wait for the rest...

But as usual ERU IMOLE must always show there colour.


You will now be ignored
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 10:38am On Dec 11, 2025
BlackfireX:
Hahaha

Off point ? Your questions are so simple that the answers are so easy ...but you panicked ...when answers keep coming..why not wait for the rest...

But as usual ERU IMOLE must always show there colour.


You will now be ignored
Initially escaped from zoom/meet/clubhouse call and has finally escaped totally.
All of you are the same. The ones debating Zakir Naik, or Ahmed Deedat RH, etx.

grin grin are you not ashamed that you have no answers for the so-called "easy questions".

Please don't run, I want answers, call others to help you answer my questions, including your PASTORS.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 10:41am On Dec 11, 2025
BlackfireX:
Hahaha

Off point ? Your questions are so simple that the answers are so easy ...but you panicked ...when answers keep coming..why not wait for the rest...

But as usual ERU IMOLE must always show there colour.


You will now be ignored
If you know you are not a keyboard warrior and really want to answer, Abeg, Please, Biko smiley smiley ....Abeg

Abeg choose one platform so you can answer my questions while I am listening. Like 3 answers everyday - just 30mins at most.

Na beg I dey beg
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by BlackfireX: 10:53am On Dec 11, 2025
muslim100:
Initially escaped from zoom/meet/clubhouse call and has finally escaped totally.
All of you are the same. The ones debating Zakir Naik, or Ahmed Deedat RH, etx.

grin grin are you not ashamed that you have no answers for the so-called "easy questions".

Please don't run, I want answers, call others to help you answer my questions, including your PASTORS.
Maybe we allow people to look at our conversation and see who is lying ERU IMOLE grin


Like I said you will now be ignored
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 7:38pm On Dec 11, 2025
BlackfireX:
Maybe we allow people to look at our conversation and see who is lying ERU IMOLE grin


Like I said you will now be ignored
Run away, no shame! 😭😭😭
Chai, and the funny this is that all Christians run away just like you did 🤣🤣🤣, you can't defend your fragile religion.

Sha, continue worshipping a god that said "My God, My God, do not forsake me" praying to Allah to help him escape death.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by Antlisiam: 10:26pm On Dec 11, 2025
We are peace people in Islam, we love peace and we emulate peace. Everything about us in Islam is peace

Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by BlackfireX: 6:30am On Dec 12, 2025
muslim100:
Run away, no shame! 😭😭😭
Chai, and the funny this is that all Christians run away just like you did 🤣🤣🤣, you can't defend your fragile religion.

Sha, continue worshipping a god that said "My God, My God, do not forsake me" praying to Allah to help him escape death.
This shows how myopic you are ERU

What do you expect from a child from mutah

If Allah Muhammad can get trinity wrong by saying it is Jesus Mary and Allah, what do you expect ERU arabu to continue doing?

IF Allah ( one of the idol in mecca that Muhammad elevated, because his father Abdullah was an idol worshipper and uncle mutallahb )

Yahweh is not Allah...they are not the same

My God my God why has thou forsaken me
Is this your missile to destroy Christain faith ... you are such a kid ... the verse itself proves the messiah, divinity preexisting of Yasua

Do you have a bible? Read where it was prophesied where he quoted those words verbatim how Christ will be crucified, his garment parted, and all that.

This further proves that Islam was a lie, Muhammad a fraud, Allah an idol when it lied that Yasua Al massih didn't due on the cross...


You see in a debate you won't last ...I told you all your questions are fried rice.

I pray Ruh AL -Qudus open your eyes to see the truth

Muhammad is dead from the poison of a Jewish woman...but Yasua is sitted in heaven
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by Explore2xmore: 7:32am On Dec 12, 2025
TV01:
Nope, the word allah is not a personal name, it's a generic word for god. Yahweh, The I Am that I Am, is a name revealed in both the Hebrew & Christian scriptures. Neither is there any connection or continuity between the Judeo-Christian scriptures and the koranic text.

And no again, the god of muhammed is not the god of the Hebrew or Christian scriptures. Is the god presented by muhammed a Father? Are followers of the god of muhammed not expressly named as slaves?

I didn't interpret it, neither did I translate it. As presented, it reads expressly and unambiguously. I only posted the one verse in response to the claim that there is not one OT verse. There are others, across both testaments, which present a compelling portrait as God presenting in a multi-faceted manner.


I appreciate that may be the case and will not deny anyone's right to believe as they will and proselytise accordingly - as long as they do not compel or do any harm.

But hinging on "pure monotheism" is mans insistence on how God must be, not Gods clear revelation of Himself to man - and indeed, "The Lord our God is One"

Christianity is attested to prophetically, historically, archeologically and, most importantly in some respects, by it's practical outworking. The so called ROP produces anything but. And, the ROP has no recorded positive impact on humanity or, record of eliminating societal pathologies - only embedding and amplifying them.
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The term “Allah” has been used as the proper name for the Creator by Arab Jews and Christians long before the advent of Islam, and it continues to appear in the Arabic Bible today. So, the argument that it refers to a different deity simply doesn’t hold up. The Bible often refers to prophets as servants/slaves of God, which means that Islam using the same term doesn’t imply the existence of a new God. When Isaiah 48:16 is quoted, it’s important to recognize that it’s poetic language, not a doctrine suggesting multiple divine beings which is something that even Jewish scholars would agree on. While Christianity later developed the concept of God into multiple persons, Islam maintains the straightforward monotheism that Abraham and Moses practiced. Moreover, the notion that Islam has contributed nothing to the world is easily debunked by a millennium of scientific, medical, and intellectual advancements that even Western historians acknowledge.
Re: Is Islam Truly A Religion Of Peace? by muslim100(m): 1:36pm On Dec 12, 2025
BlackfireX:
This shows how myopic you are ERU

What do you expect from a child from mutah

If Allah Muhammad can get trinity wrong by saying it is Jesus Mary and Allah, what do you expect ERU arabu to continue doing?

IF Allah ( one of the idol in mecca that Muhammad elevated, because his father Abdullah was an idol worshipper and uncle mutallahb )

Yahweh is not Allah...they are not the same

My God my God why has thou forsaken me
Is this your missile to destroy Christain faith ... you are such a kid ... the verse itself proves the messiah, divinity preexisting of Yasua

Do you have a bible? Read where it was prophesied where he quoted those words verbatim how Christ will be crucified, his garment parted, and all that.

This further proves that Islam was a lie, Muhammad a fraud, Allah an idol when it lied that Yasua Al massih didn't due on the cross...


You see in a debate you won't last ...I told you all your questions are fried rice.

I pray Ruh AL -Qudus open your eyes to see the truth

Muhammad is dead from the poison of a Jewish woman...but Yasua is sitted in heaven
1. Mutah grin grin grin

2. If only you had little knowledge.

3. Allah - name of God in Arabic. Even Arab Christians say Allahu Akbar. Maybe they too worship an Idol. cool

4. 💯, Yahweh in the bible is surely not Allah, Allah is all powerful. Yahweh of the bible is a times poweless.

5. "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me" - jesus of the bible praying to a greater God! Wonderful.
Crying 😭😭 to be saved from death - by who?

6. I have had a bible for more than 10 years.

7. Jesus never died on the cross, even the Bible is not sure. Many contradictory accounts about the death and resurrection story from the bible.

8. Islam is the final message of God to Mankind. The God of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, John, Jesus etc. sent Muhammad to be his final messenger to deliver the final testament of his message to mankind.

All the above prophets were Muslims.
A muslim is anybody that submits his will totally to the one true creator of all that exists and obeya his commands.
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