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Water and fire cannot be together. Who will now be the presidential candidate?

ElevationD:
Sorry bro, but it is people like you who have supported certain greedy politicians to bring the nation to its knees.

If you followed the politics of 2022 and 2023 without a biased mind, you would have found that Obi, very willing to contest his presidency on the platform of PDP, was pushed out by Wike and his gang. Take away that greedy Wike move and think that if the PDP presidency was ceded to the SE as expected, what would have stopped Obi from contesting the primaries, knowing that there were others in the party interested in the slot? Obi left and a platform was offered to him. Where did you and others like you learn that Obi was not willing to contest in any party primary? Did he not contest the APGA primaries of 2003 and win?

Where have you heard Obi mentioning to people his intention to contest the Presidency on the platform of ADC? If you have been following the events of ADC since the middle of this year, can you tell us at which point Obi mentioned his intention to as little as become a member of ADC? Have you not heard him repeatedly say that he is a faithful card carrying member of the Labour Party?

By the way, without primaries, how can candidates be determined, knowing that by law, INEC must monitor them to ensure compliance. It is within the rights of parties to choose who leads them and their flag bearers. If you took your time, you would have noticed that when Governor Adeleke joined Accord party, they held their primaries on the 10th of December, making him their candidate. Why not accuse him as you accused Obi of not contesting the primary against any candidate? APC candidates in the same Osun state met with BAT a few days ago and they all stepped down for Oyebanji. Was that wrong? When Omisore was pushed aside, why not accuse Oyebanji of having the fear to contest the primaries against Omisore? Why not lament that no one contested against Oyebanji? Or you just choose which of the differen sides suits your opinion?

Politicians do their calculations and permutations. They do their readings and projections. Ours is to carefully watch and make the right choices.

He is a faithful card carrying member of LP but he has supported ADC candidates in different states this year. He engaged in anti-party activities but you see nothing wrong. Just dey play

Buhari wore suit, attended church service, joined protest infact looked for a pastor to deputize him just to become a friend of southern Nigeria, he threw away jihad and Muslim hardlines.
But some ADC northern heavy weight wants to maintain born to rule attitude and religion supremacy, instead of them to capitalize on security situation like APC did 2015, their tribe and religion agenda is making them to loose out.
They should go and learn how APC grabed power.
Tinubu knew he can not win election in 2015 he front buhari and waited for next eight years. But some ADC heavy weight never care that it's the time for the southern and christian president.

You too, always talk like person wey get sense. Where did I mention Obi in my comment or told you that I am an Igbo man and his supporter? I am APC and pro BAT to the core. Next time, read very before misquoting

stuffs2002:
Una dey always beleive say na only get sense abi? Nobody else get sense for Nigeria except Igbos abi? See the way this one dey reason ooo.


So Atiku should use his money, time, connections and other resources to bring people together and form a formidable opposition and then hand over to a weak and lazy politician like Obi who has not contributed anything to the union.

Penguin2:
Obi is not just a heavyweight, he’s a political party on his own.

The reason nobody send ADC again is because Obi seems to have been distant from it.

If the ADC is serious then they should zone their ticket to the south.

In fact, if they are serious about winning power, they anoint Obi as their presidential candidate by consensus and stop telling Obi to come and contest their kind of primaries with them.

In 2027, it’s Peter Obi or let Tinubu continue.

We shouldn’t let the north play their stupid game on our head.

Hmmmmm…….HUBRIS at it’s highest form!

Willy2025:
Why would Atiku contest at all? The ADC ticket should be thrown open to all candidates of southern extractions with Atiku providing and rallying support for the eventual winner just like Tinubu did in 2015 when he backed Buhari and Osinbajo.

oil d your head....

Hedonisco:
Stop disturbing us with this senseless and tone deaf talk about "he should contest primaries". People like you who play the ostrich are the biggest problem.

Making noise all over the forum pretending like you don't know that contesting the primary means playing the corruption game with sleazy characters.. Bribing delegates with which money, just like your bat did. So Peter Obi should go against the very thing that his reputation is built on (prudence, accountability and squeaky clean corruption track record) just to please vultures like you?

Didn't he contest primary to become Anambra governor? Was he hand picked?

SmartPolician:
It's funny how people think that what they do or write on social media will affect Obi's political decision. When Peter Obi left PDP and joined LP, did he consult anyone? It was shocking to many netizens.

The fact of the matter is that the man has a cult-like following who believes in his unique political ideology. Anywhere he goes, people will vote for him; forget the social media rants.

Cult like following? Watch out in 2027. In 2023 so many factors walked in his favour.
Buhari and APC worked in his favour.
Endsars worked in his favour.
Element of surprise worked in his favour.
Fear of Muslim Muslim ticket worked in his favour.
Emefiele worked in his favour.

These factors have been neutralized. So watch out.

Choiceone1:
How many times did he contest for presidential position or did Atiku not make Tinubu the president too. U people just reason like emptiness

Atiku is Obi's Senior politically,age, financially, etc we're talking about a former VP when obi was Governor,it was Atiku that brought Obi to national limelight in 2019, election against Buhari,

I think Obi should have respected him enough to be his running mate once again not the other way round..

Don't let emotions cloud your reasoning..

BItt:
Let me tell you a simple truth for free, Obi is now bigger than Atiku.
Apart from that, Atiku has been running since God knows when. Obviously, fate doesn't want him as a president for a very good reason.
Also Obasanjo dealt him a very huge blow with his book "My Watch". Everyone Nigerian deserves a copy of the book.

In terms of what, even obi wouldn't alter this kind of stuff.

EponObi:
You are not being truthful to yourself. If you say/think your Obi didn't play 2023 election rolling out dollars to anyone, he should take the same approach and leave all these noise. If he can't convince and woo delegates with his words, track records, shared interest, he should leave the entire ADC circle. In politics, it's give and take. In fact, if he can't work with that principle he should leave the entire political arena because he will only waste his time and that of his followers.

Where in the world is money not spent in politics? Go and ask Trump how many billions of dollars he and his affiliated political groups spent in the last election. You must think national politics is boys scout.

He should go to the party where he will be given automatic ticket without primaries because LP has stated they won't do that again.

Why should Atiku or anyone bow out or give Obi the ticket? Why? Because he has two heads? There are too many babies in that your camp. Even if you want to contest the SUG presidency, it's foolery to expect everyone to bury their ambition and just give you the position.

You want to become the president of Nigeria but you don't want to play politics. No be juju be that.

Someone up there rightly said that na una his followers cage Obi. You've woven this fake messianic narrative around him so much he is afraid of going off script. He was once a governor and he did all these dirty politics of clinching party ticket two times.

Forming who he isn't has been the Achilles heel of Obi. Let him leave the game entirely if he can't play by the rule.

If you people really love Nigeria like you always claim and are serious about chasing Tinubu, you will advice Obi to leave politics so his votes can go to other serious candidates.

Like 2023, you will divide una votes again in 2027 and cry about rigging. Just watch.

Don't educate him oh , Obidients and their messiah Obi have not learned anything, the few smart ones amongst them have left already- infsct Morris monye gave a very damning accessment of Obi's leadership style .

ElevationD:
BAT man, why not remove the log in your eye before attempting that in another person’s.

Placing your man side by side with Peter Obi, can you tell us whose sources of wealth are easily identifiable and verifiable? As we speak today, your man is stupendously wealthy and yet, no one can point a finger at a business tagged to his name. If he is “fit” to rule this country, can you please explain how us is better positioned to rule the country? So far, we have seen how poverty and hardship have been shared like food among the citizens since 2003.

When you talk, please add verifiable facts. That’s why your man said “na statistics we go chop” and you all fell, hook, line and sinker. Today, after the damages caused by him, he has turned to the same statistics that you all joined him to criticize Obi about. Show us evidence that Obi dodged primaries, not forgetting to tell us the party involved with verifiable facts and dates. Show us the weakness with Obi, who with a smaller party which he joined in less than one year, defeated oga right in his backyard.

Your hypocrisy stinks to the high heavens

You claim Tinubu is stupendously rich yet you failed to provide your own verifiable facts to prove your case but you are asking for verifiable facts even before I make any comments about Peter Obi

Willy2025:
You too, always talk like person wey get sense. Where did I mention Obi in my comment or told you that I am an Igbo man and his supporter? I am APC and pro BAT to the core. Next time, read very before misquoting

You did not have to say it because it is glaring even to the blind. You did not have to mention Obi before everyone will know you are clearing ground for Obi

That was why I said you people always think you are the only people that have sense. After disqualifying Atiku, who else would be the one that the opposition will rally around?

Willy2025:
Why would Atiku contest at all? The ADC ticket should be thrown open to all candidates of southern extractions with Atiku providing and rallying support for the eventual winner just like Tinubu did in 2015 when he backed Buhari and Osinbajo.

tinubu backed buhari a northern candidate, instead of backing Jonathan a southern candidate

Abi Jonathan doesn't deserve a second term

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Atiku is better, powerful, detribalised, competent, influential and forthright than any southern candidate vying for president

Go and study Atiku more by yourself

Atiku Abubakar is the only person that can defeat tinubu in nigeria

Validated:
You already know why. Primary "selection" is usually by purchasing delegates with USD, like Tinubu did in 2022. Any candidate that purchases delegate will first "settle" those that provide him the Billions or Trillions before doing anything tangible.

Then maybe Obi should consider having his own personal platform like Atiku has made ADC his own and stop førnìcating.

Only irresponsible persons keep giving excuses!

Networkpalava.com Hmm… this is interesting. 🤔 ADC seems worried, but politics is always full of twists. Do you think Obi and Atiku teaming up is realistic for 2027, or is ADC just overthinking it? Honestly, sometimes letting politicians focus on building their base is smarter than chasing alliances too early.

Overhype, Atiku is not a featherweightpolician.
He alwaysguaranteesto delivermore vote than what Obi can pull anyday

LagosOrigin:
Obi is a political heavyweight that every political party wants in there fold.

He's an institution himself.


Peter Obi is a great asset

ZombieTAMER:
Atiku is Obi's Senior politically,age, financially, etc we're talking about a former VP when obi was Governor,it was Atiku that brought Obi to national limelight in 2019, election against Buhari,

I think Obi should have respected him enough to be his running mate once again not the other way round..

Don't let emotions cloud your reasoning..

Oh my GOD. Not only senior u will see serial.stop thinking like this if u will want to progress in life

stuffs2002:
Your hypocrisy stinks to the high heavens

You claim Tinubu is stupendously rich yet you failed to provide your own verifiable facts to prove your case but you are asking for verifiable facts even before I make any comments about Peter Obi

Oga, who is the hypocrite between us here please?
Obi’s assets are well documented in all public spaces. Show us your evidence of your oga’s assets, as evidence that you are not being hypocritical. At least you can mention one or two businesses attached to his name, that he has publicly admitted.

akpumping7720:
He is a faithful card carrying member of LP but he has supported ADC candidates in different states this year. He engaged in anti-party activities but you see nothing wrong. Just dey play

Did BAT not support GEJ of the PDP against Nuhu Ribadu of ACN, his own party, in 2011? Or you were not adult enough to know that?

Burob:
Like I said initially, why scoop low to exchange banters with a member of the losing team?

When Gringory Obi enter Aso Rock, holla back.

Why you no kuku take style close your face out of shame? Shame gree you to defend the poverty inflicting leader?

Chucks13:
Hahahhahahaha one thing about loser is they lie alot and when they are confronted with tactical question they result in missile firing simply they are caught misinforming the public.

Mr Metusellah tell your age or bury your head in shame.

Shame on you Mr ancient of days.

Thank you, Baba Youngie. Afterall you were an adult in 2003 according to you, and continue to apply skin tone to remain young in that your old age. You claimed to be wise in 2003 and yet avoided to discuss events of 2003. Clearly no knowledge anywhere.

When your likes have no verifiable facts, you resort to crude means to defend your failed leader. Shame no let una admit the truth!

ElevationD:
Did BAT not support GEJ of the PDP against Nuhu Ribadu of ACN, his own party, in 2011? Or you were not adult enough to know that?

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ElevationD:
Why you no kuku take style close your face out of shame? Shame gree you to defend the poverty inflicting leader?

Ok u want me to believe say na President Tinubu stricken you’ll with poverty abi? If u like, no go arrange yourself, dey wait for bail out.

Penguin2:
Obi is not just a heavyweight, he’s a political party on his own.

The reason nobody send ADC again is because Obi seems to have been distant from it.

If the ADC is serious then they should zone their ticket to the south.

In fact, if they are serious about winning power, they anoint Obi as their presidential candidate by consensus and stop telling Obi to come and contest their kind of primaries with them.

In 2027, it’s Peter Obi or let Tinubu continue.

We shouldn’t let the north play their stupid game on our head.

I stand with you nwanem

ElevationD:
Oga, who is the hypocrite between us here please?
Obi’s assets are well documented in all public spaces. Show us your evidence of your oga’s assets, as evidence that you are not being hypocritical. At least you can mention one or two businesses attached to his name, that he has publicly admitted.

Obi's fraud and crimes are well documented in the public places
* Same Obi that was disgraced massively in the Pandora's papers
* Same Obi that evidence abound in how he invested Anambra's state funds under his daughter's name
* Same Peter Obi, who was indicted for fraudulent activities and sundry other criminal enterprises by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, in the now infamous Pandora Papers.
* Same Peter Obi that wasted Anambra's money in the failed bear factory
* Same Peter Obi was said to have set up and operated businesses offshore in low-transparency jurisdictions (so-called tax or secrecy havens).
* Same Obi that some of his businesses were not properly declared to Nigeria’s anti-corruption authorities, potentially breaching the Code of Conduct Bureau and Tribunal Act and the 1999 Constitution requirements for public officials to disclose their assets.
* Same Obi that one report claimed he remained a director of a UK company (Next International UK) for longer than allowed after becoming governor, and that he had arranged offshore structures including Gabriella Investments Limited in the British Virgin Islands.

stuffs2002:
Obi's fraud and crimes are well documented in the public places
* Same Obi that was disgraced massively in the Pandora's papers
* Same Obi that evidence abound in how he invested Anambra's state funds under his daughter's name
* Same Peter Obi, who was indicted for fraudulent activities and sundry other criminal enterprises by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, in the now infamous Pandora Papers.
* Same Peter Obi that wasted Anambra's money in the failed bear factory
* Same Peter Obi was said to have set up and operated businesses offshore in low-transparency jurisdictions (so-called tax or secrecy havens).
* Same Obi that some of his businesses were not properly declared to Nigeria’s anti-corruption authorities, potentially breaching the Code of Conduct Bureau and Tribunal Act and the 1999 Constitution requirements for public officials to disclose their assets.
* Same Obi that one report claimed he remained a director of a UK company (Next International UK) for longer than allowed after becoming governor, and that he had arranged offshore structures including Gabriella Investments Limited in the British Virgin Islands.

Oga, where is the evidence please? When someone is accused of a crime, he is prosecuted and imprisoned. In all the years that you have been hearing of the activities of the NPF, EFCC, ICPC and DSS, where have you heard of Obi getting arrested and prosecuted over any financial malfeasance or document forgery. All your claims above are hearsay, just as they are fake. Was it not your oga who was once accused and prosecuted by ICPC? Was you oga not labeled the “most corrupt governor” at that time? Please show us evidence in any country outside of Nigeria where Obi has been prosecuted or jailed. Bear in mind that the UK is not Nigeria, where people commit financial crime and get away. Ibori is our clearest example of one leader who was prosecuted, with evidence, in the UK and jailed. Where are your evidences please?

“Same Obi who was said…”. Hearsay as usual.

Can you show us one business attached to the name of your oga please? At least you know one or two names of Obi’s business concerns. They are there in the public domain, just as you do not need to get any visa to go to his university to prove that he was a legitimate student. If you cannot give us one name of one of your oga’s numerous business concerns, then you are the hypocrite bro. Please tell us the source of his stupendous wealth, or at least a narrative of how he arrived at the claim of being richer than one particular state in Nigeria. You mentioned the name of one of Obi’s business concerns, please mention at least one from your oga’s end. Abeg.

Burob:
Ok u want me to believe say na President Tinubu stricken you’ll with poverty abi? If u like, no go arrange yourself, dey wait for bail out.

No hide say to chop hard you na. No be me cause am. Na the man wey you vote for. Open mouth agree say good hard make we help you small.

Why congratulating TINUBU? I thought your makinde faction of PDP will win TINUBU before 1pm on election day in 2027 ? Hahahaha chaii 🤣 🤣 eyes dey clear small small

fergie001:
I have already congratulated Tinubu for 2027 general elections..... We need to keep him on his toes to do better.

May God guide him to do the right things, Amen.

ElevationD:
Oga, where is the evidence please? When someone is accused of a crime, he is prosecuted and imprisoned. In all the years that you have been hearing of the activities of the NPF, EFCC, ICPC and DSS, where have you heard of Obi getting arrested and prosecuted over any financial malfeasance or document forgery. All your claims above are hearsay, just as they are fake. Was it not your oga who was once accused and prosecuted by ICPC? Was you oga not labeled the “most corrupt governor” at that time? Please show us evidence in any country outside of Nigeria where Obi has been prosecuted or jailed. Bear in mind that the UK is not Nigeria, where people commit financial crime and get away. Ibori is our clearest example of one leader who was prosecuted, with evidence, in the UK and jailed. Where are your evidences please?

“Same Obi who was said…”. Hearsay as usual.

Can you show us one business attached to the name of your oga please? At least you know one or two names of Obi’s business concerns. They are there in the public domain, just as you do not need to get any visa to go to his university to prove that he was a legitimate student. If you cannot give us one name of one of your oga’s numerous business concerns, then you are the hypocrite bro. Please tell us the source of his stupendous wealth, or at least a narrative of how he arrived at the claim of being richer than one particular state in Nigeria. You mentioned the name of one of Obi’s business concerns, please mention at least one from your oga’s end. Abeg.

Peter Obi was nailed in the Pandora's peppers is what you called hearsay?



1) https://www.thisdaylive.com/2021/10/15/peter-obis-pandora-papers/
2) https://independent.ng/pandora-papers-between-peter-obi-and-his-critics/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
3) https://www.thisdaylive.com/2021/10/15/peter-obis-pandora-papers/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

ElevationD:
Oga, where is the evidence please? When someone is accused of a crime, he is prosecuted and imprisoned. In all the years that you have been hearing of the activities of the NPF, EFCC, ICPC and DSS, where have you heard of Obi getting arrested and prosecuted over any financial malfeasance or document forgery. All your claims above are hearsay, just as they are fake. Was it not your oga who was once accused and prosecuted by ICPC? Was you oga not labeled the “most corrupt governor” at that time? Please show us evidence in any country outside of Nigeria where Obi has been prosecuted or jailed. Bear in mind that the UK is not Nigeria, where people commit financial crime and get away. Ibori is our clearest example of one leader who was prosecuted, with evidence, in the UK and jailed. Where are your evidences please?

“Same Obi who was said…”. Hearsay as usual.

Can you show us one business attached to the name of your oga please? At least you know one or two names of Obi’s business concerns. They are there in the public domain, just as you do not need to get any visa to go to his university to prove that he was a legitimate student. If you cannot give us one name of one of your oga’s numerous business concerns, then you are the hypocrite bro. Please tell us the source of his stupendous wealth, or at least a narrative of how he arrived at the claim of being richer than one particular state in Nigeria. You mentioned the name of one of Obi’s business concerns, please mention at least one from your oga’s end. Abeg.

The pandora's paper that exposed the fraud called Obi is what hearsay