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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ballzproblemm: 4:26pm On Dec 13, 2025
iLegendd:
I'd advise you to keep this conviction for bottom of bear market, not top of bull market.

Infact, those that took profit in yellow top, in December of 2024, at the top price of 109k are better than those who didn't.

Warren Buffet who sold stocks in late 2024 and somewhere in 2025 isn't dumb. Prove to me he is.

Remember, greed is our surname as Nigerians. Also, we lack patience and when we do have it, we over-do it and it backfires.

Note: Even people with 16 years experience in crypto got liquidated in that 10/10 crash and they lost millions. I know you must've lost some thousands of $, hence your optimism, but please, know that the cycle is dead even though we might hit 117k at most.

What is happening now is to trick newbies into thinking there is more upside — it happens every cycle and people always fall for it.

As I have said earlier, no matter how amazing the good news is, this cycle is dead and the only people who have refused to agree are

1. Newbies,
2. People who have lost a lot and just want to break even at all cost
3. Big platforms sponsored by market makers to promote hopium so they can dump on you.

By the way, this is not an attack, but my humble submission.

Best time to buy is ending of buy year or early buy more year.
Ilegend baba I hail thee you be one of my favorite account but let me ask you something?

Are you smarter than saylor who keeps stacking btc,or Tom lee who keep buying eth? Recently Donald Jr trump son started buying btc aggressively, banks are recommending their rich clients to pivot into digital assets,are will ask again ,are smarter than all this people spending millions of not billions stacking kkrrpto currently Lol.


Do you think institutions are in this game to waste money ?
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by maybet081: 5:02pm On Dec 13, 2025
Ballzproblemm:
Ilegend baba I hail thee you be one of my favorite account but let me ask you something?

Are you smarter than saylor who keeps stacking btc,or Tom lee who keep buying eth? Recently Donald Jr trump son started buying btc aggressively, banks are recommending their rich clients to pivot into digital assets,are will ask again ,are smarter than all this people spending millions of not billions stacking kkrrpto currently Lol.


Do you think institutions are in this game to waste money ?
Tom Lee, Raul Paul, Cz,and many others believe in an imminent BTC uptrend.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 5:04pm On Dec 13, 2025
Ballzproblemm:
Ilegend baba I hail thee you be one of my favorite account but let me ask you something?

Are you smarter than saylor who keeps stacking btc,or Tom lee who keep buying eth? Recently Donald Jr trump son started buying btc aggressively, banks are recommending their rich clients to pivot into digital assets,are will ask again ,are smarter than all this people spending millions of not billions stacking kkrrpto currently Lol.


Do you think institutions are in this game to waste money ?
Great point.

Smartness is subjective at times, but I'll go with no.

Let me push the question back at you. Are those people you mentioned smarter than Warren Buffet who doesn't even like or acknowledge BTC in the first place, yet richer than all of them combined and always sell early?

If you're playing the forever game with BTC, when you buy doesn't matter, but even at that, there are best time to buy.

If you're a billionaire and you're stacking for your children and grandchildren, then when you buy doesn't matter, else it does.

I don't want to kill your hopium, but I'm just pointing out that there is time for everything, including BTC and there are times even the best news doesn't pump the market or just a little, then dumps.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Tflex01:
Ballzproblemm:
Ilegend baba I hail thee you be one of my favorite account but let me ask you something?

Are you smarter than saylor who keeps stacking btc,or Tom lee who keep buying eth? Recently Donald Jr trump son started buying btc aggressively, banks are recommending their rich clients to pivot into digital assets,are will ask again ,are smarter than all this people spending millions of not billions stacking kkrrpto currently Lol.


Do you think institutions are in this game to waste money ?
When the last bear market started and btc was ranging between 30k and 40k, there was a massive institutional adoption too, even country like El-Salvadore adopted beeteecee as a good store of value and stacked enough, but that didn't stop beeteecee from going to 15k.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ballzproblemm: 5:13pm On Dec 13, 2025
iLegendd:
Great point.

Smartness is subjective at times, but I'll go with no.

Let me push the question back at you. Are those people you mentioned smarter than Warren Buffet who doesn't even like or acknowledge BTC in the first place, yet richer than all of them combined and always sell early?

If you're playing the forever game with BTC, when you buy doesn't matter, but even at that, there are best time to buy.

If you're a billionaire and you're stacking for your children and grandchildren, then when you buy doesn't matter, else it does.

I don't want to kill your hopium, but I'm just pointing out that there is time for everything, including BTC and there are times even the best news doesn't pump the market or just a little, then dumps.
How can you compare these men WB,it's normal for old people to stick with what they they know as they have pass the time of learning new things,just like old people sticking to button phones despite the era of touch screen.

I have always maintained that the market is manipulated for reasons ,good news market dumps,bad news market dumps harder ,it is designed for a reason,if these men stacking kkrrpto wants to sell trust me it wouldn't be in time of extreme fear but rather euphoria.

This is a waiting game, only the strong will survive.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ballzproblemm: 5:16pm On Dec 13, 2025
maybet081:
Tom Lee, Raul Paul, Cz,and many others believe in an imminent BTC uptrend.
grin
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 5:17pm On Dec 13, 2025
Tflex01:
When the last bear market started and btc was ranging between 30k and 40k, there was a massive institutional adoption too, even country like Salvadore adopted beeteecee as a good store of value and stacked enough, but that didn't stop beeteecee from going to 15k.
After Elon's involvement at 40k in 2021 and we pumped to 60k, people said we'll never come to 50k again, but... you know the rest. Salvador, Argentina, etc. adopted it, but what goes up must surely come down before going up again.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ballzproblemm: 5:18pm On Dec 13, 2025
Tflex01:
When the last bear market started and btc was ranging between 30k and 40k, there was a massive institutional adoption too, even country like Salvadore adopted beeteecee as a good store of value and stacked enough, but that didn't stop beeteecee from going to 15k.
why don't you want to talk about el Salvador being in profit lol , everything na agenda sha .
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 5:20pm On Dec 13, 2025
Ballzproblemm:
How can you compare these men WB,it's normal for old people to stick with what they they know as they have pass the time of learning new things,just like old people sticking to button phones despite the era of touch screen.

I have always maintained that the market is manipulated for reasons ,good news market dumps,bad news market dumps harder ,it is designed for a reason,if these men stacking kkrrpto wants to sell trust me it wouldn't be in time of extreme fear but rather euphoria.

This is a waiting game, only the strong will survive.
Okay o.

Time will tell. If we're lucky, the highest will be 117k in first week or January or somewhere in March.

By the way, what's your prediction for the supercycle?
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ballzproblemm: 5:21pm On Dec 13, 2025
iLegendd:
Okay o.

Time will tell. If we're lucky, the highest will be 117k in first week or January or somewhere in March.

By the way, what's your prediction for the supercycle?
no prediction only up lol grin.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ballzproblemm: 5:23pm On Dec 13, 2025
Don't let anybody shake you out, when they have positioned finish,they will flip the switch cheesy.

Trillions!

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 5:23pm On Dec 13, 2025
Ballzproblemm:
why don't you want to talk about el Salvador being in profit lol , everything na agenda sha .
Do you want them to be at loss? No. But, what if they had bought in November, December of 2022 or January of 2023, wouldn't they be in more profit? They would. Hence, there is time for everything.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 5:24pm On Dec 13, 2025
Ballzproblemm:
no prediction only up lol grin.
grin grin I love that.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ballzproblemm: 5:31pm On Dec 13, 2025
iLegendd:
Do you want them to be at loss? No. But, what if they had bought in November, December of 2022 or January of 2023, wouldn't they be in more profit? They would. Hence, there is time for everything.
exactly now is time ,abi you want buy when coin don start to dey do 1000% gain lol,man 🤦.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Tflex01: 5:38pm On Dec 13, 2025
Ballzproblemm:
why don't you want to talk about el Salvador being in profit lol , everything na agenda sha .
Ok
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Alexas58: 8:36pm On Dec 13, 2025
Alexas58:
Xmr looks like a good buy to me.
But I'll skip buying any positions yet.
Cos btc is yet to establish a continuation of this uptrend.

If btc breaks to 73k, or even 69k.
I'll say we are gradually changing momentum to the downside .
But for now, my main point of focus is seeing what happens for the next 2-3 weeks.

Because that would almost usher us into a new year. And yearly opening and close is a very long term indicator which must not be joked with.

As a trader trading altcoins, you have to master the act of patience and take most market direction from btc and incorporate it into your desired shitcoins..

With this, you will have less coins to buy and shield on your portfolio, giving you ample time to make financial decisions and monitor it more closely


Btc is the indicator used to trade shitcoins.

If you want to trade shitcoins without the leading indicator, then you would get shaky results.
Not as is bad theories don't give correct results, they can give correct results once In a while.

My short term indicator still states that it is possible for btc to reach 73k. But we are not in a bear market yet, as we can see that most coins are still making new highs.


If you understand the power play in shitcoins, you will know they are there to help you. Buy low, sell high.



Let's play it like this
1. Know btc direction , is it going up?
2. Know altcoins direction. Is it going up?
3. This method is not applicable for coins that are newly launched, as it doesn't have history. History is very important before we place the trade.
4. What is the rsi saying?
5. Take all entries from the daily time frame.



Trade and think like a champion
grin
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by cmoney22222: 2:08pm On Dec 14, 2025
Seewahala
K
abokiwam na suya. Nairaland B a N D I Ts

😝
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by seanwilliam(m): 3:31pm On Dec 14, 2025
This bear market will be extremely brutal.
Think of the lowest of the lowest price, alts will hit it! Virtually every of your bear target will hit on alts.
I’m not asking you to get out o, I’m just asking you to prepare ahead for the incoming bazooka . On average , alts are currently down 70%, you’ll love it more at extra -70. With what I’m seeing now, 99% of memes will die, all alts save the top 50( I’m being generous self) will never recover.
Many of you will be trapped in the next pump, thinking we’re back. You really thinking there’s enough liquidity to pump over 30m coins? You will learn and you will learn hard way.
I’m out on all positions.
The market won, I lost!
From now till next year December, I’ll dedicate my time learning market curves and all without putting 1$ to market.
I’ll start buying if btc drops 30k$, eth 1k$, bnb 200$ and almighty sol 20$.
These entries might sound unrealistic , but considering what happened in October 10, nothing is impossible again.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by RayBandsNL(m): 4:06pm On Dec 14, 2025
seanwilliam:
This bear market will be extremely brutal.
Think of the lowest of the lowest price, alts will hit it! Virtually every of your bear target will hit on alts.
I’m not asking you to get out o, I’m just asking you to prepare ahead for the incoming bazooka . On average , alts are currently down 70%, you’ll love it more at extra -70. With what I’m seeing now, 99% of memes will die, all alts save the top 50( I’m being generous self) will never recover.
Many of you will be trapped in the next pump, thinking we’re back. You really thinking there’s enough liquidity to pump over 30m coins? You will learn and you will learn hard way.
I’m out on all positions.
The market won, I lost!
From now till next year December, I’ll dedicate my time learning market curves and all without putting 1$ to market.
I’ll start buying if btc drops 30k$, eth 1k$, bnb 200$ and almighty sol 20$.
These entries might sound unrealistic , but considering what happened in October 10, nothing is impossible again.
Are you telling us there are no "Trillions" ?
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by seanwilliam(m): 4:40pm On Dec 14, 2025
RayBandsNL:
Are you telling us there are no "Trillions" ?
baba mi, there are trillions, but are they going to pump it on crypto?
If yes, will they risk it on alts and memes?
At this point, if liquidity is coming, 90% of it will be concentrated on btc imo. The remaining 10% won’t evenly spread on alts, it will be on select alts( the majors).
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by DaemoLee: 6:44pm On Dec 14, 2025
Withdrawals hasn't even started yet for Christmas and New year celebration 🎉. Lol
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by SaintUlot: 6:46pm On Dec 14, 2025
When people are already in position in crypto, they ll need to encourage others to buy, they ll have to make encouraging posts and news. This is very much understandable, if more people didn't buy, how ll they make their own profit?

The trending news now is that the crypto market cycle has been cancelled, who are the committee that sat down to cancel it? But to be sincere, someone whose portfolio is @ 80% loss can never pray for the cycle to end just like that, 80% loss could be suicidal, that's a bitter pill to swallow.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Robnectar(m): 7:04pm On Dec 14, 2025
cmoney22222:
Seewahala
K
abokiwam na suya. Nairaland B a N D I Ts

😝
grin

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by DaemoLee: 7:31pm On Dec 14, 2025
"This market literally does the opposite of what people thinks" I have heard this thousand times!
What does that tell u?
Have u asked urself if the market was/is human to have a sense of it's own.
To me crypto is a big manipulation game controlled somewhere. With motives of impoverishing and keeping people that has investment plans and get rich quick mentality under financial control using economic factors, global events, human emotions as the umbrella.
If it doesn't exist, people would be more productive in physical businesses.

I am just thinking wild or am I saying nonsense?
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by DaemoLee: 7:37pm On Dec 14, 2025
When they realize everyone has lost faith in the market, all those million coins/tokens u think can't pump would start going up here and there, then when they have your trusts again, they dump and leave u hanging. Chances of becoming poor with it is way higher than making u rich.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by seanwilliam(m): 10:35pm On Dec 14, 2025
DaemoLee:
"This market literally does the opposite of what people thinks" I have heard this thousand times!
What does that tell u?
Have u asked urself if the market was/is human to have a sense of it's own.
To me crypto is a big manipulation game controlled somewhere. With motives of impoverishing and keeping people that has investment plans and get rich quick mentality under financial control using economic factors, global events, human emotions as the umbrella.
If it doesn't exist, people would be more productive in physical businesses.

I am just thinking wild or am I saying nonsense?
you’re not saying nonsense sir, what you put up there is a fact. Crypto has a way of keeping you delusional. It’ll paint eldorado picture where you’ll live in fantasy until reality hit you hard. I was hoping on x10😂😂
Take for example , I yielded to sinissin advice earlier this year to stop dca-ing on my position and face real life sht. The advice somehow came as an insult, but today, it’s one of the best decisions I made.
Do you now know the funnest thing? The money I used to face real life business was around 30% of my loss in crypto 😂. I added to my business and it pays my bills today while crypto adds to my bill.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by seanwilliam(m): 10:39pm On Dec 14, 2025
SaintUlot:
When people are already in position in crypto, they ll need to encourage others to buy, they ll have to make encouraging posts and news. This is very much understandable, if more people didn't buy, how ll they make their own profit?

The trending news now is that the crypto market cycle has been cancelled, who are the committee that sat down to cancel it? But to be sincere, someone whose portfolio is @ 80% loss can never pray for the cycle to end just like that, 80% loss could be suicidal, that's a bitter pill to swallow.
it’s sunk cost fallacy. Just like a popular proverb that says when you get on the wrong train, the best immediate action is to get off at the next station to avoid going further.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by seanwilliam(m): 10:41pm On Dec 14, 2025
DaemoLee:
When they realize everyone has lost faith in the market, all those million coins/tokens u think can't pump would start going up here and there, then when they have your trusts again, they dump and leave u hanging. Chances of becoming poor with it is way higher than making u rich.
and you’ll rarely end up with no regrets buying those coins.
If you profit but sell early , you’ll regret
If you hodl and it dumps, you’ll regret
If you cut your loss and it pumps , you’ll still regret.
😂
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by daharry(m): 10:51pm On Dec 14, 2025
I don’t believe the top is in, and if the top is in, it would the first time majority caught the top or close to the top..
It would also be the first time the crypto market tops without BTC.D dropping to the lows and USDT.D also at a major resistance..
And for those who want a right shoulder formation to complete the H&S pattern on BTC while also wanting ETH and Alts to new ATH and Price discovery, I’m sorry, I don’t think it would play out this way, there’s no alt season without a new high for BTC..
You can also check ETH/BTC PAIR, is it on the verge of a breakout?
Or is it bearish? Make your own findings for yourself and make your conclusions..
AS FOR ME, I’m Willing to place my money where my conviction lies, maybe I might be wrong and learn my lesson, or I might just be right and change my fortune, and it’s a gamble I’m willing to take..
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by DaemoLee: 11:09pm On Dec 14, 2025
seanwilliam:
you’re not saying nonsense sir, what you put up there is a fact. Crypto has a way of keeping you delusional. It’ll paint eldorado picture where you’ll live in fantasy until reality hit you hard. I was hoping on x10😂😂
Take for example , I yielded to sinissin advice earlier this year to stop dca-ing on my position and face real life sht. The advice somehow came as an insult, but today, it’s one of the best decisions I made.
Do you now know the funnest thing? The money I used to face real life business was around 30% of my loss in crypto 😂. I added to my business and it pays my bills today while crypto adds to my bill.
I wouldn't say many would be better off without crypto, cos I know many folks close to me that are doing great in life trading BeTc, I would say we all would be better off and doing great without 'Alt' coins!

Another thing I sensed is that, the more information we put out about the market online, we are feeding them on how to deal with us. Hence, creation of likes of Binance feeds/discover...

If u win, u are lucky, if u go again; u are at high risk of loosing it all.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by daharry(m): 11:15pm On Dec 14, 2025
Now instead of a weekend pump we’ve got a weekend dump..
87k and bounce?
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by DaemoLee: 11:15pm On Dec 14, 2025
daharry:
I don’t believe the top is in, and if the top is in, it would the first time majority caught the top or close to the top..
It would also be the first time the crypto market tops without BTC.D dropping to the lows and USDT.D also at a major resistance..
And for those who want a right shoulder formation to complete the H&S pattern on BTC while also wanting ETH and Alts to new ATH and Price discovery, I’m sorry, I don’t think it would play out this way, there’s no alt season without a new high for BTC..
You can also check ETH/BTC PAIR, is it on the verge of a breakout?
Or is it bearish? Make your own findings for yourself and make your conclusions..
AS FOR ME, I’m Willing to place my money where my conviction lies, maybe I might be wrong and learn my lesson, or I might just be right and change my fortune, and it’s a gamble I’m willing to take..
One question: what year did u join crypto actively
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