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Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts:
IamtheDef:
I wonder what FAAM is doing to maintain theirs @19ish. Drops everywhere
pls is there holding period on FAAM by investar because their app state otherwise

Cc @emmasoft
Re: Mutual Funds by Sirchiboy: 6:43pm On Dec 15, 2025
I am new to money market.
I put 1m into Stanbic mmf last month.
How much will I get everymonth
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 6:46pm On Dec 15, 2025
Creditalerts:
pls is there holding period on FAAM by investar because their app state otherwise

Cc @emmasoft
It's as you can see. It's one of First Ally's way of attracting prospects. MMF doesn't have the usual 30 days holding period. This actually came into effect in January this year; it was otherwise before now.
Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 6:53pm On Dec 15, 2025
emmasoft:
It's as you can see. It's one of First Ally's way of attracting prospects. MMF doesn't have the usual 30 days holding period. This actually came into effect in January this year; it was otherwise before now.
I was reading through today I was shock 😲 good rate @19 and no holding period chai bonanza
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 6:53pm On Dec 15, 2025
Oyibopepe2000:
Pls kindly tell me where or how one checks on the app or their web portal to know if one opted for interest reinvestment or not as I do not remember which I opted for.
Thank you.
I don't really know the firm you are referring to but that not withstanding, the way to confirm is either you call customer care or wait to end of the month for Stanbic, if your accrued interest is reinvested then you picked reinvestment of interest if otherwise, you will get paid.

For others, check at the end of the quarter, if you see reinvestment of your accrued interest at the last day of the quarter, it means that is what you opted for, but if you didn't see that line item of reinvestment in your transaction, it means you opted otherwise.

Whatever option you prefer, you can always send an email to customer care to that effect.
Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 7:19pm On Dec 15, 2025
emmasoft:
It's as you can see. It's one of First Ally's way of attracting prospects. MMF doesn't have the usual 30 days holding period. This actually came into effect in January this year; it was otherwise before now.
This means people are now free to shop around for sweet rates.

Impressive.


FMDQ and CBN websites will be getting more traffic than usual starting next year, people who are shopping for rates no go let those website rest.
Re: Mutual Funds by shangos: 7:19pm On Dec 15, 2025
Good evening boss,
Thanks for your response. I only notice this unrealised interest on months I make withdrawals. But my balance seems to be intact.
As for norrenberger dollar mutual fund I read somewhere after paying in I have to reach out to my relationship manager to follow up. Assuming I can't reach my relationship manager my account won't reflect funding.
Lastly to login into the norrenberger app today has been very difficult, is this a general experience or just me
emmasoft:
Unrealized interest means interest already earned but has not been paid to you. I believe you opt for interest payout hence by end of the quarter you will be credited all earned interest from Oct 1 to Dec 31st. Otherwise those earned interest suppose to be reinvested at tbe end of each month if you had opted for interest reinvestment.

There is no changes when depositing dollar cash into their collection account.

By SEC rule, you are only paid by transfer into your dom account, No withdrawal of cash at the bank and no charges from Norrenberger for transfer.

Dollar collection acct:
Account Name: DLM Trust Company/Norrenberger Dollar Fund
Account Number: 0040306013
Bank: Stanbic IBTC

Kindly use the second link in my signature to open your account.
Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 7:24pm On Dec 15, 2025
Sirchiboy:
I am new to money market.
I put 1m into Stanbic mmf last month.
How much will I get everymonth
Glad to have you here with us after rocking the first page of nairaland with your wonderful stories.

MMF rate isn't all that fixed for anyone to tell you exact accrued yield by month end however, it can be estimated but not exactly. Reason being that; Rates changes every day and rates changes everyday because some MMF is lazy and some are proactive.

The proactive guys keep their rates high and the lazy once see their rates decline.

I have a YouTube video explaining this, it will soon drop.


Welcome to MMF, one thing is sure, your money is safe.
Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 7:28pm On Dec 15, 2025
IamtheDef:
I wonder what FAAM is doing to maintain theirs @19ish. Drops everywhere
it only means, their funds managers are working tirelessly.

Good job to them.
Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 7:30pm On Dec 15, 2025
Sirchiboy:
I am new to money market.
I put 1m into Stanbic mmf last month.
How much will I get everymonth
welcome on board
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 10:08pm On Dec 15, 2025
shangos:
Good evening boss,
Thanks for your response. I only notice this unrealised interest on months I make withdrawals. But my balance seems to be intact.
As for norrenberger dollar mutual fund I read somewhere after paying in I have to reach out to my relationship manager to follow up. Assuming I can't reach my relationship manager my account won't reflect funding.
Lastly to login into the norrenberger app today has been very difficult, is this a general experience or just me
Don't worry by end of the quarter you will understand better as per unrealised interest.
Sending evidence of payment after cash deposit is necessary for ease in tracing funds, it doesn't necessarily have to be your relationship manager. You can always send it to customer care email address.

Have you set up your account on the web portal? If not, it could be the reason you are having issues. I used the app today, no issues, or it could be some other reasons. Please address issues like this to customer care with a screenshot of the error message; you can also reach out to me via WhatsApp to avoid posting what is not meant for public consumption here.
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 10:13pm On Dec 15, 2025
excel127:
Followed your guide and myinvester app seems like the easiest to setup. Everything is ready for me

Any idea if it's safe to deposit big savings on their mmf like 8m or so
Very safe. If you are in Lagos, you can even pay a visit to their office in Ajose Adeogun Street, close to the Zenith Bank head office in VI

You are welcome on board
Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 4:51am On Dec 16, 2025
excel127:
Followed your guide and myinvester app seems like the easiest to setup. Everything is ready for me

Any idea if it's safe to deposit big savings on their mmf like 8m or so
my investar app very sweet and easy to navigate since they finish their upgrade it became more better 😘
Re: Mutual Funds by nickae: 8:07am On Dec 16, 2025
So I decided to test Norrenberger MMF and unfortunately the rate as at today is 16.07%, I thought it was mentioned that it about 19% huh

Re: Mutual Funds by shangos: 8:21am On Dec 16, 2025
thank you for your response
emmasoft:
Don't worry by end of the quarter you will understand better as per unrealised interest.
Sending evidence of payment after cash deposit is necessary for ease in tracing funds, it doesn't necessarily have to be your relationship manager. You can always send it to customer care email address.

Have you set up your account on the web portal? If not, it could be the reason you are having issues. I used the app today, no issues, or it could be some other reasons. Please address issues like this to customer care with a screenshot of the error message; you can also reach out to me via WhatsApp to avoid posting what is not meant for public consumption here.
Re: Mutual Funds by excel127(m): 9:09am On Dec 16, 2025
emmasoft:
Very safe. If you are in Lagos, you can even pay a visit to their office in Ajose Adeogun Street, close to the Zenith Bank head office in VI

You are welcome on board
oh alright I'll go with them then. Thanks
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 10:57am On Dec 16, 2025
nickae:
So I decided to test Norrenberger MMF and unfortunately the rate as at today is 16.07%, I thought it was mentioned that it about 19% huh
All MMF rates are daily valued; it's not like a bond or fixed deposit, where you have a fixed return throughout the duration or tenor of the investment. The flexibility is the uniqueness of MMF.
Re: Mutual Funds by nickae: 11:45am On Dec 16, 2025
emmasoft:
All MMF rates are daily valued; it's not like a bond or fixed deposit, where you have a fixed return throughout the duration or tenor of the investment. The flexibility is the uniqueness of MMF.
Correct, but for rate to drop from about 19% to 16% is a sense of concern undecided, cos stanbic had consistently been on 16% while cowrie wise had been like 17%, or did Norrenberger just realized the interest rate had dropped grin
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m):
nickae:
Correct, but for rate to drop from about 19% to 16% is a sense of concern undecided, cos stanbic had consistently been on 16% while cowrie wise had been like 17%, or did Norrenberger just realized the interest rate had dropped grin
There is nothing like concern when it comes to MMF. The nature of MMF remains the same, regardless of the manager, and once the underlying assets are revalued, the rate will always change. There is actually no problem with any fund manager. None of them invests in anything other than TBills and commercial paper.

If you check now, Norrenberger is 21.89%. today.
Re: Mutual Funds by IamtheDef: 12:16pm On Dec 16, 2025
emmasoft:
There is nothing like concern when it comes to MMF. The nature of MMF remains the same, regardless of the manager, and once the underlying assets are revalued, the rate will always change. There is actually no problem with any fund manager. None of them invests in any thing other than TBills and commercial paper.
In your opinion sir, is there any disadvantage chasing rates? I mean it makes no sense to remain with MMF option A @15% ish when MMF option B is @19% ish, seeing as there's absolutely no risk in the product itself irrespective of the manager
Re: Mutual Funds by Nakedman: 12:22pm On Dec 16, 2025
nickae:
So I decided to test Norrenberger MMF and unfortunately the rate as at today is 16.07%, I thought it was mentioned that it about 19% huh
FSDH MMF is doing 17.74% at the moment.
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m):
IamtheDef:
In your opinion sir, is there any disadvantage chasing rates? I mean it makes no sense to remain with MMF option A @15% ish when MMF option B is @19% ish, seeing as there's absolutely no risk in the product itself irrespective of the manager
My own approach is to have more than one fund manager for MMF. Normally, investment in any of them is based on the objective of setting it up. However, I look at the movement of rate in a given period, such that more funds are allocated to the one that has an average higher rate than the other, though there are other considerations such as customer service, ease of redemption, etc.

Please note that MMF rate is always in a range and dynamic, you can not decide on the rate just because of the rate of one or two days.
For example, we saw Norrenberger at 18%+ 2 days ago, yesterday 16%+, and today it's 21%+. So the best thing is to have more than one, then channel more funds to the one that seems to have a high average rate, and when the tables turn, you also follow likewise rather than just moving your funds here and there.
Re: Mutual Funds by nickae: 1:22pm On Dec 16, 2025
emmasoft:
There is nothing like concern when it comes to MMF. The nature of MMF remains the same, regardless of the manager, and once the underlying assets are revalued, the rate will always change. There is actually no problem with any fund manager. None of them invests in anything other than TBills and commercial paper.

If you check now, Norrenberger is 21.89%. today.
okay boss
Re: Mutual Funds by IamtheDef: 11:01am On Dec 17, 2025
emmasoft:
My own approach is to have more than one fund manager for MMF. Normally, investment in any of them is based on the objective of setting it up. However, I look at the movement of rate in a given period, such that more funds are allocated to the one that has an average higher rate than the other, though there are other considerations such as customer service, ease of redemption, etc.

Please note that MMF rate is always in a range and dynamic, you can not decide on the rate just because of the rate of one or two days.
For example, we saw Norrenberger at 18%+ 2 days ago, yesterday 16%+, and today it's 21%+. So the best thing is to have more than one, then channel more funds to the one that seems to have a high average rate, and when the tables turn, you also follow likewise rather than just moving your funds here and there.
Apt, thank you
Re: Mutual Funds by IamtheDef: 11:02am On Dec 17, 2025
Meanwhile has anyone been able to use Norrenberger today... Both the app and web portal aren't available
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 11:29am On Dec 17, 2025
IamtheDef:
Meanwhile has anyone been able to use Norrenberger today... Both the app and web portal aren't available
Yes, there is a glitch, and they are working on it. But you can go ahead and fund your account by making a transfer to their UBA collection account.

If you want to make a redemption urgently, you can reach out to your RM, and it will be arranged pending when the IT team concludes their work.

I confirmed everything is working now. I just login to my accouint.
Re: Mutual Funds by suckprick: 12:43pm On Dec 17, 2025
@emmasoft, I want to ask, is there a difference between MMF and Tbills? Someone advised me to invest in Tbills instead of MMF. As I am looking to invest a huge sum, I need as much market analysis and advice as I can get. Please shed more light at your convenience. Thank you.
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 1:07pm On Dec 17, 2025
suckprick:
@emmasoft, I want to ask, is there a difference between MMF and Tbills? Someone advised me to invest in Tbills instead of MMF. As I am looking to invest a huge sum, I need as much market analysis and advice as I can get. Please shed more light at your convenience. Thank you.
By investment category, Tbills and MMF belong to the same low-risk investment group. The truth is that TBills and MMF are actually the same investment but achieved differently.

The underlying assets of MMF are mainly Tbills. The difference between them is the mode of operation and the fact that commercial paper is also part of the underlying asset in MMF.

Check the post below I did in January this year, it will give an idea. One thing you should know MMF and Tbills are good investment products that you can be involved in if you are a conservative investor.

Some reasons why I will prefer MMF to Tbills

You can start MMF with a much lower amount compared to TBills. With 5,000 or less, you can start investing in most of the MMFs available. The least for tbills is 100k.

When the rate increases, it will not affect already invested funds in TBills, but it will with MMF

You can't top up with Tbills. Top-up is very possible with MMF, even if you want a daily top-up.

Terminating before tenor expiration in Tbills comes with penalties. For mmf, after just 30 days, exit is without penalties.

MMF has other instruments, like commercial papers, that contribute to its rate.

You can easily automate reinvestment of interest in MMF, ie, taking advantage of the power of compound interest.

It's the investor that determines MMF tenor, hence you can hold MMF as long as you wish no restrictions. TBills, particularly primary auction, have fixed tenors of 3 months, 6 months, or 1 year.

Right now, mmf rates are good enough and above that of TBills.

However, that is not to say Tbills is a bad investment. The one you pick, MMF or Tbills, actually depends on the reason for investing, among other factors, which most times are peculiar to the investor

You can reach out to me, let's talk more specifically if you don't mind.
Re: Mutual Funds by ipobcannibals: 2:09pm On Dec 17, 2025
suckprick:
@emmasoft, I want to ask, is there a difference between MMF and Tbills? Someone advised me to invest in Tbills instead of MMF. As I am looking to invest a huge sum, I need as much market analysis and advice as I can get. Please shed more light at your convenience. Thank you.
T-bills are better than MMF because T-bills interests are locked in for the duration of your investment, while MMF’s interests fluctuates on a daily basis.
MMF was 23.7% at the beginning of the year, but now it’s averaging 16%. On the other hand, investors who locked in T-bills at 18.5% in January for 1 year got a better average interest when compared to MMF today.
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 3:23pm On Dec 17, 2025
ipobcannibals:
T-bills are better than MMF because T-bills interests are locked in for the duration of your investment, while MMF’s interests fluctuates on a daily basis.
MMF was 23.7% at the beginning of the year, but now it’s averaging 16%. On the other hand, investors who locked in T-bills at 18.5% in January for 1 year got a better average interest when compared to MMF today.
@ipobcannibals, It will not be absolutely correct to say TBills is better than MMF. The example you cited can also be the other way, because there is an investor who was feeling bad that he could not take advantage of the increasing rate, because his rate was now lower than the prevailing rate at that time. So the choice is always based on the investor's investment objective.

My post is just reasons for my preference, not that one is actually better than the other, just as I stated in my conclusion in the post.
Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 5:05am On Dec 18, 2025
How this people take dey run am FAAM by myinvestar 21.3%😲
Re: Mutual Funds by BuchyD: 7:17am On Dec 18, 2025
ipobcannibals:
T-bills are better than MMF because T-bills interests are locked in for the duration of your investment, while MMF’s interests fluctuates on a daily basis.
MMF was 23.7% at the beginning of the year, but now it’s averaging 16%. On the other hand, investors who locked in T-bills at 18.5% in January for 1 year got a better average interest when compared to MMF today.
This is not exactly true..

MMF interest can also swing higher remember.

In addition, ease of liquidation no be same o.
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