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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:52pm On Dec 16, 2025
Maeve7:
Trump devotion sickness has rotten your brain.
period
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:53pm On Dec 16, 2025
armyofone:
Anyone can comment whenever they chose to - but as pres, you should stage your fight wisely and not comment on "just anything"

Not every time something enter ya mind you say or do it.
Don’t mind them. Let us all act like we’re stupid and don’t realize the office of the presidency comes with higher expectations of basic decorum and manners.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 10:01pm On Dec 16, 2025
The US Unemployment rate rises to 4.6 percent. The highest in 4years

News
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:10pm On Dec 16, 2025
Astounding that the same voices celebrating Charlie Kirks death want to lecture you about decency

There wont be a Democrat if there is no Hypocrisy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:23pm On Dec 16, 2025
armyofone:
Anyone can comment whenever they chose to - but as pres, you should stage your fight wisely and not comment on "just anything"

Not every time something enter ya mind you say or do it.
As a president you are expected to behave a certain way, but you can choose to be your own person not the fake person everyone expects you to be. Trump was an open book before he got elected. My criticism of him was he was making the murder of someone about him. that's not the time for that.

bayelsaowei:
isn't Trump a vile human being?

Your epistle doesnt change who Trump is.

You didnt approve of his childishness and obvious hate. Why dont you let it stay that way..?

Trump is gonna do more..So be ready to write more thesis to support him ..you are free to.
benalvino3:
He is quick to post almost always.
As a supporter trump, calling out his comments on Rob Reiner (who, along with his wife Michele, was tragically stabbed to death on December 14) is me showing the principle I hold and I don't speak or react base on hatred.

Many of the same voices now blasting Trump as "vile" Eller bayelsaowei or "disrespectful" for[b] suggesting Reiner's anti-Trump activism somehow contributed to his death (via "Trump derangement syndrome"wink[/b] were notably silent or even active when prominent Democrats and left-leaning figures continued criticizing Charlie Kirk's views and legacy right after his September 10, 2025, assassination. They supported comedians who were in hot water because they crap on kirk, look at what cococandy is saying now because we criticize trump, she is radiating moral acuity and righteousness when she was also dumping or kirk when he was killed. She had a lot to say that the bots started censoring her. Let's look further:

Rep. Ilhan Omar called Kirk's legacy one of "bigotry, hatred, and white supremacy" with "no legacy to honor," and she was among the 58 Democrats who voted against the House resolution honoring him (while still condemning the violence itself). I did not hear anyone call her vile. She did the same thing trump did.

Fringe online comments from the left celebrated or downplayed Kirk's death, tying it to his strong 2nd Amendment support (e.g., "no sympathy for gun absolutists" or "he reaped what he sowed"wink - I think coco was saying the same thing, and those often went unchecked by mainstream Democrats at the time.

Republicans hammered that as hypocrisy, leading to backlash like censure attempts and mass firings for critical posts. Now, with Trump's post politicizing Reiner's death (baselessly implying his Trump criticism angered someone into violence, despite the family suspect), conservatives are pushing back, calling it inappropriate and saying it undercuts the civility they demanded after Kirk.

You guys here are crying foul because of hatred not because of decorum or decency.

We didn't see you guys condemning politicians who cheer the attempted assassination of Trump.

If hatred is the only thing that is making people speak out then they are not speaking at all.
You still manage to conclude that my post supports Trump when I was actually condemning him as seen highlighted in bold, along with those who act like they have the moral high ground, claiming they’ve been warning us, yet do the same things themselves or stay silent when someone on the left in a high government position does it. This isn’t just about Trump; remember, Ron DeSantis isn’t like Trump, who enjoys Twitter fights and drama, but you dislike him for being “too conservative.” That’s the pattern here. You don’t realize your dislike for Trump isn’t unique; it’s part of a trend, especially when the focus was shifted to going after DeSantis, who they said was worse than Trump because people thought he might be the presidential front-runner. When you witness vile behavior but only speak out when it’s from the right, particularly from Trump, your outrage doesn’t feel genuine.

DeSantis would have been your new vile person if Trump was not the president and he does not have to be saying Rossie O'donnel is fat on twitter for you to say that. He is too conservative is enough plus he built a detention center for illegal migrant.

How does a post where I call out hypocrisy and criticize Trump end up being interpreted as me supporting him?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 12:20am On Dec 17, 2025
benalvino3:
As a president you are expected to behave a certain way, but you can choose to be your own person not the fake person everyone expects you to be. Trump was an open book before he got elected. My criticism of him was he was making the murder of someone about him. that's not the time for that.
True - it shouldn't have been about him - well may both of them rest in peace.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 3:58am On Dec 17, 2025
raumdeuter:
Astounding that the same voices celebrating Charlie Kirks death want to lecture you about decency

There wont be a Democrat if there is no Hypocrisy
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I am sure you agree with your god Trump Christ, that Rob Reiner died of TDS, since you believe in TDS.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:05am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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I am sure you agree with your god Trump Christ, that Rob Reiner died of TDS, since you believe in TDS.
Rob Reiner died of stab wounds believed from an attack by his son

You can now tell us what you believe or the TDS also spread to you
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 4:11am On Dec 17, 2025
raumdeuter:
Rob Reiner died of stab wounds believed from an attack by his son

You can now tell us what you believe or the TDS also spread to you
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SHATTAP RAM
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:34am On Dec 17, 2025
The people that are bringing up Charlie Kirk.
(A man who died from the gun violence he promoted), want us to believe that saying maybe we shouldn’t promote gun violence because it could come around and bite us in the peach, is the same as saying someone died because they have TDS?

You guys have actually lost your darn minds. And that’s why I keep blocking you. It’s hard to stomach the stupidity.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
nateevs:
What's funny is that we are not surprised. We could have told you for free that this is normal Trump, 100%.

You should embrace it actually.
How could anyone who’s actually observed Trump be surprised? Genuinely asking because are we supposed to sit here and pretend that this is the most newsworthy disgusting thing he’s said? 50+ years of documented history of being a garbage, perverted conman and people still fell for it.

They’ve been staunchly behind him no matter what. Instead of quietly eating the constant embarrassment that is the lot of any Trump supporter, they are here trying to score some points for the weak lukewarm disapproval they think means something. Mtchew. 🙄

They’re probably in their hive mind with this faux disapproval of Trump because someone high up in their republican echo chamber said something similar.

Give them less than 24 hours and you’ll see them supporting something worse that Trump is doing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:32am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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I am sure you agree with your god Trump Christ, that Rob Reiner died of TDS, since you believe in TDS.
He died after an argument with his son. His son appeared at a party by his parents wearing a hoodie and berating guests asking them who was famous and stuff like that. They had a bitter argument .
His son was I would say a spoilt brat.With a long history of mental issues ,substance abuse and stints at rehabilitation centres.
Trump's children are highly responsible business men intricately involved in running the family chain of businesses.
Ron Reiner was virulent Trump critic , he formed a group Committee to Investigate Russia with John Clapper, Brennan and Mike Morell as advisors to investigate Trump in 2017 over Russia . He always called him vile,, mentally incapacitated, unfit to be president and every other unprintable word. He was in other words working to oust Trump from the presidency with the same people who created the fake Joint Intelligence Community Assessment.
Trump shouldn't have reacted that way after Reiner's death.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:37am On Dec 17, 2025
basilico:
He died after an argument with his son. His son appeared at a party by his parents wearing a hoodie and berating guests asking them who was famous and stuff like that. They had a bitter argument .
His son was I would say a spoilt brat.With a long history of mental issues ,substance abuse and stints at rehabilitation centres.
Trump's children are highly responsible business men intricately involved in running the family chain of businesses.
Ron Reiner was virulent Trump critic , he formed a working relationship with John Brennan and others to investigate Trump in 2017 over Russia . He always called him vile,, mentally incapacitated, unfit to be president and every other unprintable word. He was in other words working to oust Trump from the presidency.
Trump shouldn't have reacted that way after Reiner's death.
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Amazing. Unbelievable.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:47am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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Amazing. Unbelievable.
What's unbelievable? That a grown man would work to oust a duly elected president Or that I can call out Trump response to his enemies death?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 5:49am On Dec 17, 2025
basilico:
What's unbelievable? That a grown man would work to oust a duly elected president Or that I can call out Trump response to his enemies death?
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The latter.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:51am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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The latter.
I'm yet to hear any liberal here criticize any democrat.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:56am On Dec 17, 2025
cococandy:
How could anyone who’s actually observed Trump be surprised? Genuinely asking because are we supposed to sit here and pretend that this is the most newsworthy disgusting thing he’s said? 50+ years of documented history of being a garbage, perverted conman and people still fell for it.

They’ve been staunchly behind him no matter what. Instead of quietly eating the constant embarrassment that is the lot of any Trump supporter, they are here trying to score some points for the weak lukewarm disapproval they think means something. Mtchew. 🙄

They’re probably in their hive mind with this faux disapproval of Trump because someone high up in their republican echo chamber said something similar.

Give them less than 24 hours and you’ll see them supporting something worse that Trump is doing.
The most protected building on earth couldn't identify who left cocaine in a semi public area.
Joe Biden is your hero, whose son and wife sat in meetings at the WH where pardons were discussed. I'd say sold since the family is a grifting one ,taking money from foreigners for no work done.
Joe Biden worked to jail and kill Trump . That's your dignified hero. But you think making unpalatable comments about his enemy's death is such a huge issue that can trigger a tsunami.
Hypocrite, fed on a raw diet of TDS.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 6:05am On Dec 17, 2025
basilico:
I'm yet to hear any liberal here criticize any democrat.
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You have heard me criticize Obama.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Lionessza6(f):
Evilthoughts:
You talk as if I don't know the same South Africa. The same place where 10% of the population owns 70% of the land huh
The same South Africa that has protest everyday because people refuse to work and want government to do everything for huh.

The same South Africa where white immigrants are not harrased out of hospitals or elsewhere but blacks are targeted. Nonsense.

You talk as if black Americans are the only blacks who contribute to America. Do you know how many Nigerians contribute to the development of America, or exposure troubles you huh Nigerians mean more to America than those blacks who cannot take advantage of a good system.
Please stop broadcasting your ignorance about a country you claim you're a citizen of.Protests mean very different things in different countries.

In Nigeria, they rarely lead to lasting change, so many see them as high-risk with little reward.

In South Africa, it’s different. Protests, even when loud or disruptive, often lead to talks, policy changes, or legal action. They’re not chaos....they’re part of how our democracy works.
Why? Strong institutions
Powerful labor unions
Active student movements
Civic organizations that hold power accountable.

A legal system that allows court challenges after protests.Protests keep leaders on their toes. When governance fails, we mobilize quickly and demand action. That’s why delivering results isn’t just good politics....it’s survival.

Our histories shape how we see activism. What some call desperation, we call political participation that gets results.Protest here isn’t a threat....it’s how we make the system work.

2. Firstly, let me clarify something: Boers do not own 70% of South Africa’s landmass; that figure refers specifically to commercial agricultural land. This is a colonial residue, much like our old infrastructure and economic framework. Such systems are not undone impulsively; they are phased out deliberately and responsibly to avoid economic collapse.

Most of South Africa’s land remains under traditional authorities and is untitled, which is precisely why land reform was not the most urgent priority compared to housing, services, and economic transformation.

The land question has returned to the spotlight largely because of high urban unemployment and the recognition of agriculture as a potential large-scale employer. In addition, South Africa now has access to diversified global markets, including Asia, rather than being overwhelmingly dependent on European markets that historically had little incentive to support meaningful land reform.

Reform must therefore be strategic, economically sound, and sovereign. We are under no obligation to rush complex structural changes or to accept pressure framed as ‘African solidarity’ when it risks economic self-harm. We are not Zimbos. We don't seek to be validated by envious Pan-Africanists as " non cowards " and "lovers of blackness ". We accept that we were thrown into the deep end and we have so many structural reforms inherited from apartheid that we have to overcome. But we will never self-harm to please the continent that secretly and openly coverts our position. Or self-harm to spite white SA when we will end up being the biggest losers at the end because we have no Europe* to pick us up when we are down like they have. Just like Black Americans we are on our own in cases like this because our own cousins occupy even weaker positions than we on the global hierarchy of political and economic relevance unlike the white people in our respective countries who have a much more successful continental home to back them. Both whites are an extension of that and we are an extention of the weak positions of Africa. But that is too deep for a feeble mind like yours to comprehend .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:29am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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You have heard me criticize Obama.
Selective. You think Obama would date say this

Yesterday (Tuesday, December 16, 2025), at a White House Hanukkah reception, Donald Trump condemned the recent Sydney, Australia, shooting as a "horrific and antisemitic terrorist attack" and declared that "All nations must stand together against the evil forces of radical Islamic terrorism".

In the last few days antisemitic terrorist have a carried out attack
_The Brown university shooting target was the leader of the Republican chapter who supported Israel. The shooter has not been identified.
_Australia saw a terror attack
_An Jewish MIT professor of nuclear and electrical engineering was found killed in his home.

I would hope your criticism of Obama was of downplaying if not outright coverup of Islamic terrorism.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Lionessza6(f): 6:44am On Dec 17, 2025
[quote author=Evilthoughts post=137814547]You talk as if I don't know the same South Africa. The same place where 10% of the population owns 70% of the land huh
The same South Africa that has protest everyday because people refuse to work and want government to do everything for huh.

The same South Africa where white immigrants are not harrased out of hospitals or elsewhere but blacks are targeted. Nonsense.

You talk as if black Americans are the only blacks who contribute to America. Do you know how many Nigerians contribute to the development of America, or exposure troubles you huh Nigerians mean more to America than those blacks who cannot take advantage of a good system. [
/quote]

Look, this whole race-baiting thing is tired. The real issue isn’t race....it's about access to resources and economic opportunities. Black Americans, just like white immigrants, tend to be insulated from the struggles of the local poor because they come with their own resources and skills. They don’t rock the boat or compete for the same low-skilled jobs, free public services etc and honestly, they often create more opportunities than they take. But here’s the thing....this whole ‘victim’ mentality does nothing for the actual victims, the poor and under-skilled locals who have to fight for jobs, housing, and healthcare against cheap labor. It creates more resentment as you seem concerned more about your own end than the impact mass migration is causing on the receiving countries .

4. There is a difference between building a house and thriving inside a house that already exists.

Foundational Black Americans ....descendants of enslaved Africans in the U.S are not claiming exclusivity over Black success. They are asserting that they built the political, legal, and social foundations that make later success possible. And that my idea immigrant brother is the real truth and the real reason why you hate the identity. Excelling in a system is not the same as transforming a system that was designed to exclude you.

Black Americans “cannot take advantage of a good system😅😅. Again that is a typical immigrant ignorance that both black groups despise so much about you . You have selective amnesia.

There was no ‘good system’ for Black Americans. There was a hostile system that they forced to change. Redlining, segregation, lynching, exclusion from GI Bill benefits, voter suppression....these were not failures of effort, but deliberate state policy.
The struggle creates the opening. Others later walk through it. You are benefiting from what has turned those black Americans to racially sensitive and paranoid people....a long and tiring struggle to survive, belong and benefit. You only know the latter so I don't blame your ignorance.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 7:09am On Dec 17, 2025
basilico:
Selective. You think Obama would date say this

Yesterday (Tuesday, December 16, 2025), at a White House Hanukkah reception, Donald Trump condemned the recent Sydney, Australia, shooting as a "horrific and antisemitic terrorist attack" and declared that "All nations must stand together against the evil forces of radical Islamic terrorism".

In the last few days antisemitic terrorist have a carried out attack
_The Brown university shooting target was the leader of the Republican chapter who supported Israel. The shooter has not been identified.
_Australia saw a terror attack
_An Jewish MIT professor of nuclear and electrical engineering was found killed in his home.

I would hope your criticism of Obama was of downplaying if not outright coverup of Islamic terrorism.
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Not so fast. You haven't criticized Donald Trump. You merely disagreed with what he said, saying he should not have said so. You have not categorically condemned it as the repugnant and vulgar shameless celebration of violence that it is. You have not spoken to the hypocrisy of him claiming that the left did such regarding Kirk and then proceeding to do the same thing now. You have not said just how callous it is to attribute the death to so called TDS. You have only made a very guarded soft statement that he should not have said what he said. That's not criticism. That can pass as preferential advise.

It still surprised me though that you didn't fall down in worship of the statement.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 7:11am On Dec 17, 2025
benalvino3:
As a president you are expected to behave a certain way, but you can choose to be your own person not the fake person everyone expects you to be. Trump was an open book before he got elected. My criticism of him was he was making the murder of someone about him. that's not the time for that.





You still manage to conclude that my post supports Trump when I was actually condemning him as seen highlighted in bold, along with those who act like they have the moral high ground, claiming they’ve been warning us, yet do the same things themselves or stay silent when someone on the left in a high government position does it. This isn’t just about Trump; remember, Ron DeSantis isn’t like Trump, who enjoys Twitter fights and drama, but you dislike him for being “too conservative.” That’s the pattern here. You don’t realize your dislike for Trump isn’t unique; it’s part of a trend, especially when the focus was shifted to going after DeSantis, who they said was worse than Trump because people thought he might be the presidential front-runner. When you witness vile behavior but only speak out when it’s from the right, particularly from Trump, your outrage doesn’t feel genuine.

DeSantis would have been your new vile person if Trump was not the president and he does not have to be saying Rossie O'donnel is fat on twitter for you to say that. He is too conservative is enough plus he built a detention center for illegal migrant.

How does a post where I call out hypocrisy and criticize Trump end up being interpreted as me supporting him?
If you do not support him you wont have to write this comprehension.

Youre still trying to manage the situation..more like well i know Trump acted vile/insensitive, but likely most Dems are hypocritally condemning DJT, since they are also filled with hate (ref Kirks death).

Writing an epistle shows youre still trying to hang on the fence. Just condemn the damn act and full stop.

No president in the world should speak that way about an individual who just lost his life. NO president.. but we know DJT. Its only surprising that you guys just started knowing who he really is. A Vile human being.

Meanwhile, welcome back. cool
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 7:16am On Dec 17, 2025
DeepSight:
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Not so fast. You haven't criticized Donald Trump. You merely disagreed with what he said, saying he should not have said so. You have not categorically condemned it as the repugnant and vulgar shameless celebration of violence that it is. You have not spoken to the hypocrisy of him claiming that the left did such regarding Kirk and then proceeding to do the same thing now. You have not said just how callous it is to attribute the death to so called TDS. You have only made a very guarded soft statement that he should not have said what he said. That's not criticism. That can pass as preferential advise.

It still surprised me though that you didn't fall down in worship of the statement.
No mind am.

Eventually theyll condemn Trump.

Trump is yet to do the most vile thing that would be the straw to break the camels back..

Once he does and they cant take it anymore theyll all castigate and abandon him for the demon he is.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 7:23am On Dec 17, 2025
cococandy:
The people that are bringing up Charlie Kirk.
(A man who died from the gun violence he promoted), want us to believe that saying maybe we shouldn’t promote gun violence because it could come around and bite us in the peach, is the same as saying someone died because they have TDS?

You guys have actually lost your darn minds. And that’s why I keep blocking you. It’s hard to stomach the stupidity.
Gbam.

I have already started reading things like "i have not seen any Dem condemn Obama"...

Once you see that statement, you know they are about to revert to status quo with their blind support for Trumps misconduct and disgraceful attitude.

But the worst from Trump is yet to happen..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 7:26am On Dec 17, 2025
raumdeuter:
^^Many people on the right condemned it when Trump mocked about Reiner's death

Many on the left celebrated the mockery of Charlie Kirks death.

That is the key difference between both parties while the left will take out parties celebrating, The right will condemn it
lies..

Many folks from both sides condemned Kirks killing.

Video clips are all over the place.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:31am On Dec 17, 2025
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DeepSight:
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Not so fast. You haven't criticized Donald Trump. You merely disagreed with what he said, saying he should not have said so. You have not categorically condemned it as the repugnant and vulgar shameless celebration of violence that it is. You have not spoken to the hypocrisy of him claiming that the left did such regarding Kirk and then proceeding to do the same thing now. You have not said just how callous it is to attribute the death to so called TDS. You have only made a very guarded soft statement that he should not have said what he said. That's not criticism. That can pass as preferential advise.

It still surprised me though that you didn't fall down in worship of the statement.
I've specifically said he didn't die of TDS. That was a wrong thing to say. I will reference Obama shameless wars promoting Islamic terrorism in Libya and Syria. Hundreds of thousands dead because of his direct policies and actions. That were deliberate and he knew it
Obama is not vile because he is handsome and says all the politically correct things. His war in Libya led to looting of Gadaffi armouries,the weapons landed with Boko Haram and others with jihadists in Mali and Mauritania.

Biden is directly responsible for the millions dead in the Ukraine conflict.

Saying stupid things is worse than orchestrating ideological wars where hundreds of thousands die.
Bayelsaoweii, I have previously detailed tens of reasons why I loathe and detest Obama ,I would never share a meal with him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:35am On Dec 17, 2025
bayelsaowei:
lies..

Many folks from both sides condemned Kirks killing.

Video clips are all over the place.
The Free Palestine mob and deranged leftists didn't celebrate?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:07am On Dec 17, 2025
🚨 BREAKING: Police are now INVESTIGATING the incident where leftist woman Michelea Ponce harassed and berated an old lady for wearing a Charlie Kirk shirt while working in Target.

Ponce’s employer says police are investigating and that they’ve been FLOODED with calls.

GOOD! This is harassment. We need accountability.

Michelea Ponce is absolute human trash.

She decided to verbally abuse an innocent elderly woman in Target just because she was wearing a Charlie Kirk shirt.

This is the face of the "tolerant" Left. Vile, hateful, and completely soulless.

Enjoy the unemployment line, you miserable wench. You deserve every bit of the ruin coming your way! #target #micheleaponce #RIPCHARLIEKIRK

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:09am On Dec 17, 2025
bayelsaowei:
If you do not support him you wont have to write this comprehension.
Jesus must support adultery for telling those without sin to cast the first stone. Saying that makes it seem like he was trying to hang on the fence and actually supported adultery; otherwise, why would he say it?
You always gaslight someone into a zero-sum game. If you’re not hating him, you’re supporting him. Criticism alone isn’t enough. if you call out hypocrites while criticizing him, it’s seen as support. Eller, two things can be true at the same time.

bayelsaowei:
Youre still trying to manage the situation..more like well i know Trump acted vile/insensitive, but likely most Dems are hypocritally condemning DJT, since they are also filled with hate (ref Kirks death).
There is no situation to manage. I still made my point clear to armyofone that trump was wrong, you are only proving my point that your criticism of trump is based on hatred rather that righteous criticism if all you care about is trump bad and other bad statement and things from the left should be ignored. cococandy who wrote an epistle about how they were warning us (like we don't know who trump is) is back to saying she does not feel sorry for Kirk getting murdered because he has a different opinion, same thing trump is doing. Now I don't see you saying anything about that, you are not obligated to say anything, you don't see me gaslighting you (like you are doing) saying she supports Tyler Robinson based on her statement. When you guys are hypocrite and don't adhere to the principles you preach, we are allowed to speak up about it.
you don't see anyone here saying people who get killed by a gun and is not a fan of 2nd amendment deserves it because they don't support defending themselves. at least I am not lying like she is doing that Charlie supports gun violence.

bayelsaowei:
Writing an epistle shows youre still trying to hang on the fence. Just condemn the damn act and full stop.

No president in the world should speak that way about an individual who just lost his life. NO president.. but we know DJT. Its only surprising that you guys just started knowing who he really is. A Vile human being.

Meanwhile, welcome back. cool
He’s a being just like Coco, who was speaking that way when Charlie was murdered and is still repeating it today. Yet she wants us to believe Trump is bad for speaking exactly as she does, while you turn a blind eye to some and shout at others. This is nothing short of hypocrisy.
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