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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:34pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Analogies not the same..

You support Trump as a leader and his policies..

Eminem has no policies that impact on a vast majority of people.. he is not a leader, he is not my leader... he just makes music..

Trump is a leader.. he signs executive orders that impacts over 200 million people in the US and many more around the world.

Trump is a proud convicted Felon who has become president again to erase his crimes.

Analogy not the same..
Trump insulting someone is not a policy. Which is why i said it makes more sense to go at trump for immigration, economic policies. but saying he is vile because he trolls or calls someone fat does not mean much to people which is why he was elected again. Economy, Immigration are the biggest issue that got him elected.

Same with eminem, if you care so much about vileness and you wont associate yourself with vile people, then you would have stopped listen to eminem when you hear his vile lyrics. But that is not important to you and you dont condone his behavior as well. the music was good and that is what you just enjoyed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:36pm On Dec 19, 2025
benalvino3:
Mark 12:17 Then Jesus told them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." And they marveled at Him. Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him.

the law of the land is the law of the land. Jesus did not go about impeding law enforcers.

so you know what Jesus would do.
Ok I get you..if Jesus was an ICE agent he would manhandle women. Thank you for your answer. Probably Jesus should have succumbed to Ceaser (saved his life and avoided dying) and abandoned his training as Gods son, since it would have pleased Ceaser.

If those ICE agents met their mother's or sisters in a peaceful protest rally, theyll also use brute force on them.

Hope you know there's a plethora of evidence to show ICE using force even on folks that werent in there way.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:41pm On Dec 19, 2025
benalvino3:
Trump insulting someone is not a policy. Which is why i said it makes more sense to go at trump for immigration, economic policies. but saying he is vile because he trolls or calls someone fat does not mean much to people which is why he was elected again. Economy, Immigration are the biggest issue that got him elected.

Same with eminem, if you care so much about vileness and you wont associate yourself with vile people, then you would have stopped listen to eminem when you hear his vile lyrics. But that is not important to you and you dont condone his behavior as well. the music was good and that is what you just enjoyed.
So you think Trump insulting people is the main reaosn I say he is vile? Comedians insult people.. Jesters abuse people for a living. You must be mistaken if you think i say Trump is vile just by him insulting people.

Trump has a bad character which is baseline...but he is rated vile more by his actions and intentions..

So your analogy doesnt stick..dont force it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:45pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Ok I get you..if Jesus was an ICE agent he would manhandle women. Thank you for your answer. Probably Jesus should have succumbed to Ceaser and abandoned his training as Gods son, since it would have pleased Ceaser.

If those ICE agents met their mother's or sisters in a peaceful protest rally, theyll also use brute force on them.

Hope you know there's a plethora of evidence to show ICE using force even on folks that werent in there way.
My answer has nothing to do with your conclusion.

you know what that scripture says and mean.
Jesus is not an ICE agent, there was a time Jesus was violent as well but he was not a law enforcer. he is telling you, Give Caesar what belongs to Caesar.

I know there are some incident where ICE goes above and beyond. it is like that in the church, Court, Gverment, Army, police etc. you will always have one person misbehaving in an organization. ICE is not a perfect organization.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:46pm On Dec 19, 2025
benalvino3:
My answer has nothing to do with your conclusion.

you know what that scripture says and mean.
Jesus is not an ICE agent, there was a time Jesus was violent as well but he was not a law enforcer. he is telling you, Give Caesar what belongs to Caesar.

I know there are some incident where ICE goes above and beyond. it is like that in the church, Court, Gverment, Army, police etc. you will always have one person misbehaving in an organization. ICE is not a perfect organization.
Do you know why the present ICE is behaving most times irrationally and like Gestapo thugs under this administration?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:48pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
So you think Trump insulting people is the main reaosn I say he is vile? Comedians insult people.. Jesters abuse people for a living. You must be mistaken if you think i say Trump is vile just by him insulting people.

Trump has a bad character which is baseline...but he is rated vile more by his actions and intentions..

So your analogy doesnt stick..dont force it.
Well, you can state your other reason, Trump deporting people does not make him vile. you can ask congress to change the constitution.
Trump has a bad character (eg. insulting people) aside from bad character what makes him vile? because that (Bad character) is so subjective.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:49pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Do you know why the present ICE is behaving most times irrationally and like Gestapo thugs under this administration?
they are not behaving any differently.
The commander in chief then just dnt let them do their jobs. they were like this during Obama. they separated families and put people in cages.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:53pm On Dec 19, 2025
Also, Bayelsaowei, this is why i said anything they blame trump for them have already done.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter:
bayelsaowei:
What would Jesus do?

Ask yourself and Benalvino3

Shey you both are Christians...
Jesus is not ICE. He was for law and order. He said Give onto Caesar . He recognized the law

When people were doing illegal transactions in the synagogue what did Jesus do?

Its similar to what ICE did
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter:
bayelsaowei:
ICE should Kick them, beat them, drag them by their hair, pepper spray them, manhandle them, point guns at them..thats how they should treat women who stand in their way.. right?

I gave an instance of a military veteran that was deported. Not a citizen..
Tell us what should be done to people obstructing law enforcement from doing their jobs

If you dont know this evening go out and block a police officer doing his job in any country and come give us a report
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:58pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Do you know why the present ICE is behaving most times irrationally and like Gestapo thugs under this administration?
No. They are enforcing the law like they should nothing gestapo
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:08pm On Dec 19, 2025
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:22pm On Dec 19, 2025
benalvino3:
Well, you can state your other reason, Trump deporting people does not make him vile. you can ask congress to change the constitution.
Trump has a bad character (eg. insulting people) aside from bad character what makes him vile? because that (Bad character) is so subjective.
1. Trump openly pardons sex offenders and criminals (a drug lord inclusive) and He has done that lately back to back, including advocsating for a pardon of Netenyahu. Its almost unbelievable.

2. Trump's immigration crackdown has a racist and sinister undertone. And of course, he can and should deport illegal immigrants. But what we know today reveals Trump is also going after legal immigrants, especially people of color, separating families and causing immense pain to hard working individuals. Mind you I am focused on legal immigrants here.

3. Look at his unconscionable actions through DOGE. Left thousands unemployed.

I will keep posting more of his vile actions as we continue to discuss on this forum.

I look at Trump and I cant tell the difference between him and our diabolic politicians we have in-country in Nigeria..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:28pm On Dec 19, 2025
raumdeuter:
No. They are enforcing the law like they should nothing gestapo
With masks on their faces like criminals? Law enforcement agents who should be proud of their jobs hiding behind masks..

Its more like when SARS was said to be enforcing the law in Nigeria..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:35pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
1. Trump openly pardons sex offenders and criminals (a drug lord inclusive) and He has done that lately back to back, including advocsating for a pardon of Netenyahu. Its almost unbelievable.

2. Trump's immigration crackdown has a racist and sinister undertone. And of course, he can and should deport illegal immigrants. But what we know today reveals Trump is also going after legal immigrants, especially people of color, separating families and causing immense pain to hard working individuals. Mind you I am focused on legal immigrants here.

3. Look at his unconscionable actions through DOGE. Left thousands unemployed.

I will keep posting more of his vile actions as we continue to discuss on this forum.

I look at Trump and I cant tell the difference between him and our diabolic politicians we have in-country in Nigeria..
Immigration crackdown has nothing to do with racism. they are deporting all kind of people. from British to Canadian citizens (whites)

none of what you posted is vile.
questionable for number 1 but the rest? Google, Microsoft etc. cut excess workers when they want to cut costs.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:36pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
With masks on their faces like criminals? Law enforcement agents who should be proud of their jobs hiding behind masks..

Its more like when SARS was said to be enforcing the law in Nigeria..
The mask was necessary because Leftists started doxxing them and attacking their families

If leftists do not behave like insane people the masking will not be necessary

Or do you want to put the families of law enforcement in danger like the UnitedCeo?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:38pm On Dec 19, 2025
raumdeuter:
Tell us what should be done to people obstructing law enforcement from doing their jobs

If you dont know this evening go out and block a police officer doing his job in any country and come give us a report
These are folks not blocking any agents.. ICE is using excessive force on non criminals and even legal immigrants.. they've been acting reckless and irresponsible..

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:39pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
1. Trump openly pardons sex offenders and criminals (a drug lord inclusive) and He has done that lately back to back, including advocsating for a pardon of Netenyahu. Its almost unbelievable.

2. Trump's immigration crackdown has a racist and sinister undertone. And of course, he can and should deport illegal immigrants. But what we know today reveals Trump is also going after legal immigrants, especially people of color, separating families and causing immense pain to hard working individuals. Mind you I am focused on legal immigrants here.

3. Look at his unconscionable actions through DOGE. Left thousands unemployed.

I will keep posting more of his vile actions as we continue to discuss on this forum.

I look at Trump and I cant tell the difference between him and our diabolic politicians we have in-country in Nigeria..
1. A presidents pardon can be applied to any criminal, A pardon is by definition for criminals, Go and chck the list of people previous presidents pardoned

2. Tell u what is racist about immigration crackdown? They pick any one of any color, And its also common sense that if people of color are the most illegal, then most of those picked up will also be people of color

3. Govt as running into deficit, the US debt is over 36 trillion, and to cut expenses they have to lay off some people, there is no worker in any country that havent experienced colleagues being laid off

None of these are cogent points
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:40pm On Dec 19, 2025
raumdeuter:
The mask was necessary because Leftists started doxxing them and attacking their families

If leftists do not behave like insane people the masking will not be necessary

Or do you want to put the families of law enforcement in danger like the UnitedCeo?
Non-sense..

You are not a serious person..

if they are doing their jobs the right way they dont need to wear a mask..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:42pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Non-sense..

You are not a serious person..

if they are doing their jobs the right way they dont need to wear a mask..
If the left wasnt doxxing them and targeting their families they wont need to cover their faces. We have seen ICE men attacked by leftists so they need to protect themselves
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 10:44pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
These are folks not blocking any agents.. ICE is using excessive force on non criminals and even legal immigrants.. they've been acting reckless and irresponsible..
When police stops you, you obey and present your document, If you resist they have the right to escalate and use force

When citizens especially the left act irresponsibly then this is what you get

What the left wants is uncontrolled immigration which the US voters said they didnt want
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:58pm On Dec 19, 2025
benalvino3:
Immigration crackdown has nothing to do with racism. they are deporting all kind of people. from British to Canadian citizens (whites)

none of what you posted is vile.
questionable for number 1 but the rest? Google, Microsoft etc. cut excess workers when they want to cut costs.
Number 1 is the most for me.. it defines who Trump is.

You know a person exactly by their actions, what they do, what & who they gravitate towards always..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 11:02pm On Dec 19, 2025
raumdeuter:
When police stops you, you obey and present your document, If you resist they have the right to escalate and use force

When citizens especially the left act irresponsibly then this is what you get

What the left wants is uncontrolled immigration which the US voters said they didnt want
The folks in those reports never acted irresponsibly.. rather the ICE agents did..

And those folks are not left. They are just humans. To you everything is left or right.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:07pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
The folks in those reports never acted irresponsibly.. rather the ICE agents did..

And those folks are not left. They are just humans. To you everything is left or right.
Pick a specific example and let's see what they did

Like you tried to obfuscate earlier with the claim of US citizen deported later changed to veteran it actually turned out that the guy on a green card has been ordered removed since Obama days and in 2025 he self deported to Korea

Newsflash anyone on green card can be deported if you violate certain laws.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:09pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Number 1 is the most for me.. it defines who Trump is.

You know a person exactly by their actions, what they do, what & who they gravitate towards always..
Most president pardoned drug offenders including Democrats

Biden even did more he gave his son preemptive pardon
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:18pm On Dec 19, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Number 1 is the most for me.. it defines who Trump is.

You know a person exactly by their actions, what they do, what & who they gravitate towards always..
Biden and Obama pardon drug offenders and other criminals too.
pardons are meant for criminals.

an act of forgiveness. that should not be seen as vile. For me, I will still question who gets pardoned but it is no way related to vileness.
Jesus Pardon those who executed him. Would you say Jesus was vile?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 11:23pm On Dec 19, 2025
Why is Nigeria on the ban list that was released ?

This is serious! Well, Naija people fees should be refunded if visa is not approved.

budaatum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-FaV2xw-xM?si=b0RNVxRoapzApT-W
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:29pm On Dec 19, 2025
armyofone:
Why is Nigeria on the ban list that was released ?

This is serious! Well, Naija people fees should be refunded if visa is not approved.
what are you saying?
They know the Canadian government will not hunt them, so they prefer illegal status in Canada.
They are making a good choice but a bad choice at the same time. admitting all they are admitting on camera will most likely have them deported to Nigeria. except they want to live their lives on the run.

Sad.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:31pm On Dec 19, 2025
Canada that preaches about Refugees have one of the strictest borders. they like it when you come legally though.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 11:35pm On Dec 19, 2025
benalvino3:
Biden and Obama pardon drug offenders and other criminals too.
pardons are meant for criminals.

an act of forgiveness. that should not be seen as vile. For me, I will still question who gets pardoned but it is no way related to vileness.
Jesus Pardon those who executed him. Would you say Jesus was vile?
Obama even pardoned those who leaked national security secrets and those with drug convictions. Will he say Obama and Biden were vile or what does those pardons tell him about Obama and Biden
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by EnlightenedUFO: 12:54am On Dec 20, 2025
The tyrant child predator trump is a P E D O P H I L E

Shame on his supporters, you all deserve the mockery you get for being morally inept.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by EnlightenedUFO: 1:03am On Dec 20, 2025
The tyrant child predator was best friends with this evil man and even till 2017, they kept in touch which is a direct opposite to the lies being spread by cultist basilico.]

The tyrant child predator trump is a P E DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD O

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