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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 1:08am On Dec 20, 2025 |
Yeah, the tyrant child predator was a menace even around his first wife. Just read this shit man. Marla had to warn a mother not to allow her teen daughter near the tyrant predator! Yet there's some empty cells who'll die defending a pedof. Pathetic It won't be well with the maga cultists like basilico
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:10am On Dec 20, 2025 |
EnlightenedUFO:The release is out. Look for Trump here You are more likely to find Bill Clinton https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures . I hope this one will be there among the many files.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Roland17(m): 3:51am On Dec 20, 2025 |
basilico:Stop trying to be half smart. Our positions are clear. Is DOGE an act of congress or an executive order? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 4:18am On Dec 20, 2025 |
basilico:They forgot to redact that. Stop being stew-peed, you know my stance about all pdof, dems or repubs But you don't have any stance of yours. You support any pdof as long as they are in the republican party just like below
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:03am On Dec 20, 2025 |
Congressman Chip Roy, a Republican, just told us all that when it comes to health care, his party has nothing to offer the American people but “milquetoast garbage.” After decades, Washington Republicans still have no plan, no solutions, and no answers for the American people. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:05am On Dec 20, 2025 |
EnlightenedUFO:They absolutely deserve boos, eggs and rotten tomatoes! |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:29am On Dec 20, 2025 |
Obrigardo:That was New York Times smear and scandalous story released ahead of the documents release. The same NYT that at the end wriote . To avoid a lawsuit they ended up with ...... Mr. Epstein had a talent for acquiring powerful friends, some of whom have become ensnared in the continuing scrutiny of his crimes. For months, Mr. Trump has labored furiously to shift himself out of the frame, dismissing questions about his relationship with Mr. Epstein as a “Democrat hoax” and imploring his supporters to ignore the matter entirely. An examination of their history by The New York Times has found no evidence implicating Mr. Trump in Mr. Epstein’s abuse and trafficking of minors. They write hearsay ,publish it without confirmation for obrigardo to believe but in the end say they found no evidence. I'm sure this Tina Davis story will take a turn. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:38am On Dec 20, 2025*. Modified: 6:13am On Dec 20, 2025 |
] Obrigardo:100K documents released a few hours ago and they are still looking for Trump .? In a few days media will move on to the next attack angle forgetting about the Epstein files The media Epstein concern was to implicate Trump. Never about Epstein victims. Bill Clinton with Ghislaine in a poo plus a redacted girl , Michael Jackson, Noam Chomsky etc were good friends of Epstein. Bill Gates .
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:40am On Dec 20, 2025 |
Roland17:How can USDS created by an Executive Order by Obama in 2014 ,then repurposed and renamed by Trump as DOGE be an Act of Congress? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 6:14am On Dec 20, 2025 |
KingCold:She is the one who admitted that your white masters will always lord over you because you are weak . Go and cry somewhere dudula agent |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 6:52am On Dec 20, 2025 |
Lionessza6:😁😁you people think too much. All this grammar just to say you’re scared. Nigerians don’t analyze structures .We ARE the structure. Before systems wake up, Nigerians have already adjusted, dominated, and moved on. That’s why the whole world knows us. Talking about “collapse” like it’s a threat. Nigeria has been collapsing since independence and we’re still standing. That’s called resilience. You wouldn’t survive one week without comfort and institutions that’s why you worship them. We don’t need fallback options because we don’t fall. Wherever Nigerians land, economy starts moving. That’s facts. We don’t wait for permission, policies, or perfect conditions. We move. Pan-Africanism makes you uncomfortable because it reminds you that Africans can operate without approval. You prefer safety over greatness. Nigeria is global by default. Our people are everywhere, influencing everything, loud or quiet. Some people are local and defensive, some are continental by nature. It’s not your fault. Keep writing essays. Movers don’t type — they move😅.Weak cry baby. 🤡 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by KingCold: 7:33am On Dec 20, 2025 |
Evilthoughts:ok. What else? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 7:47am On Dec 20, 2025 |
benalvino3:I will freeze this discussion for a later time.. all I will do is keep posting what defines Trump as an unrepentant vile person (a morally and ethically bankrupt individual). Please don't come back to say you were in the middle as regards this matter when all is laid bare, including whatever is hidden or redacted in those released Espstein documents. What ever the outcome is with Trump be ready to suck it in and defend it and accept it.. dont retire at it. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 7:57am On Dec 20, 2025 |
basilico:What are in the mostly redacted documents?? I like as you and others are staunchly behind Trump.. It only beams more light on folks like you when the truth is finally out about a vile man y'all spent your precious time supporting. I hope shame would still remain with you and others when everything is out. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:02am On Dec 20, 2025 |
bayelsaowei:So all you care about in the Epstein file is Trump? You don’t care that it also includes Bill Gates, Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton, and others? At least Basilico cared if Trump was involved, as well as the people he’s posting about right now. are you waiting to comment only when you see something about trump? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evilthoughts: 8:16am On Dec 20, 2025 |
KingCold:Go and buy some confidence Zulu boy,the white man system has turned you into a low budget white boy who can't do anything without government . That's why we dominate you and you beg your police for help ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:20am On Dec 20, 2025 |
In 2020 Fulton county in Georgia counted 315000 early mail in votes without poll workers signature. Biden won Georgia by 11779 votes. Trump had called George Raffensberger and told him to find 11000 votes that could be nullified. Only 11000 votes Instead the call was leaked and jack Smith plus Fani Willis criminalized the call saying the call was improper. Still the issue of vote counting stopping at midnight , then Ruby Miss and her daughter continuing to count was ignored by courts.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:26am On Dec 20, 2025 |
benalvino3:That's what I've said all along, democrats and the left don't care about the victims. They only want to see Trump muddied and possibly removed from power. Epstein to democrats starts and stops with Trump. I have read unredacted copies of the grand jury testimonies of Ghislaine ,Virginia Giuffrey, Epstein's butler, his co-pilot and a few others They exonerated Trump completely . I think I posted them here some years ago. They were redacted stupidly,pasting them to notepad removed the hidden parts. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:39am On Dec 20, 2025 |
basilico:Let’s see what he posts. He’s just making the point that others can get away with things, but they turn a blind eye unless Trump is involved. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:28am On Dec 20, 2025*. Modified: 9:58am On Dec 20, 2025 |
U bayelsaowei:I call Epstein the spawn of the devil. That people like Clinton could be sharing hot tubs with Ghislaine and a girl whose face is blacked out , of which you have zero interest in it's only Trump who matters to you. Here is a 2016 Ghislaine Maxwell deposition. I posted this in April this year. https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Maxwell-deposition-2016.pdf Look for Trump in there. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DMCA: 10:13am On Dec 20, 2025 |
EnlightenedUFO:very beautiful naive, shy and insecure 18 - 20 yo are d best |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 11:10am On Dec 20, 2025 |
cococandy:Oh they have. It is pay for your own health care, health insurance is for top government officials only. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Lionessza6(f): 12:06pm On Dec 20, 2025 |
Evilthoughts:Calling analysis ‘fear’ is what people do when they’ve never had anything worth protecting. Thinking through structures isn’t cowardice...it’s what you do when collapse would actually kill your future instead of just reshuffling your hustle. You survive chaos because you’ve normalized loss; we resist it because the cost is real. You aren’t ‘the structure.’ You operate in the cracks of other people’s structures. Improvisation in disorder isn’t power...it’s dependency with good PR . If you were the structure, Nigeria wouldn’t export people faster than it exports value. You move because the ground beneath you never stabilizes.Adjusting quickly in collapse isn’t dominance; it’s adaptation to permanent failure. Dominance is owning systems that don’t require constant escape plans. That’s why your talent thrives abroad and bleeds at home....because chaos is only survivable when someone else’s order absorbs the shock. Calling decades of collapse ‘resilience’ is Stockholm syndrome . Standing still while your institutions rot isn’t strength...it’s inertia. We don’t romanticize suffering as identity. We measure outcomes. And by that metric, surviving dysfunction isn’t victory...it’s unpaid debt.You say we ‘worship institutions’ because you’ve never experienced what happens when they disappear. Institutions aren’t comfort...they’re compounding advantage. They’re why some societies fall and recover, while others fall and scatter. You call it softness because you’ve had to make peace with instability. You claim you don’t need fallback options because you ‘don’t fall,’ yet Nigerians build their lives around exit strategies🙆♀️. Your economy only ‘starts moving’ when you plug into systems someone else already stabilized. Movement without ownership is motion, not power. Pan-Africanism doesn’t scare us...it insults our intelligence🗑. Burning down the strongest structure available to prove ideological purity is easy when you have nothing left to lose. We do. Symbolic destruction is affordable only to those already living at the bottom. Being everywhere isn’t global power; it’s dispersion. Influence without anchor is noise. You scatter because your home system can’t hold you. We anchor because collapse would trap us, not free us. You mock writing because planning exposes the limits of chaos culture. Real movers don’t just run....they secure supply lines, institutions, and recovery paths. You move fast because standing still would force you to confront what never got built.😅😅 You confuse survival in disorder with mastery of reality. We don’t have that luxury. When your system fails, you relocate. When ours fails, we fall with it. That’s not fear...that’s structural awareness. You gamble with chaos because you can flee it. We defend systems because we can’t. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:14pm On Dec 20, 2025 |
Lionessza6:+ Well written and many a true word said in here, however I believe you greatly overstate the "structure" and stability of institutions of SA. I know enough of SA first hand to know its many lapses and cracks. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Lionessza6(f): 12:23pm On Dec 20, 2025 |
DeepSight:You’re not wrong that South African institutions have cracks. Of course they do. No serious country pretends otherwise. The point isn’t that our systems are perfect...it’s that they exist, persist, and still constrain collapse. A cracked dam is not the same thing as no dam.A failing court is not the same thing as no court.A stressed grid is not the same thing as permanent darkness. What you’re describing are erosions, not absences.South Africa’s problem is decay under pressure; Nigeria’s problem is scale without consolidation. One is a system struggling to hold; the other is a society forced to function without dependable holding structures at all. Those are not equivalent conditions. Despite corruption, poor handling of mass-migration, and political dysfunction, South Africa still: Resolves disputes through courts rather than patrons.Transfers power through elections rather than collapse.Maintains capital markets, pensions, contracts, and regulatory memory.Produces value at home, not primarily through exit. That’s why failure here is dangerous...we’re falling from something.And that’s exactly why analysis matters.You’re right that stability isn’t absolute. But relative stability compounds. Even weakened institutions still: *Anchor capital *Retain skills *Enable recovery instead of flight The fact that South Africans argue so intensely about institutional decline is itself evidence of structural expectation. We expect systems to work, so their failure alarms us. Societies without that expectation normalize improvisation instead.So yes....South Africa has cracks. But cracks presuppose a structure. And that’s the core difference: We debate how to repair systems. You debate how to outmaneuver their absence.That’s not a moral judgment. It’s a structural one |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:27pm On Dec 20, 2025 |
Lionessza6:+ Your knowledge of Nigeria is very questionable, very "surface" - seems like the sort that has been gleaned from newspapers and TV only. As per the bold, of course we do all that and more. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Lionessza6(f): 12:34pm On Dec 20, 2025 |
DeepSight:I’m not denying Nigeria has courts, elections, markets, or regulators. Of course it does. My point isn’t existence...it’s reliability and primacy. In Nigeria, courts function, but patronage often resolves disputes faster than law. Elections occur, but outcomes are regularly contested through power-brokering, not just institutions. Capital markets exist, yet serious capital hedges offshore because enforcement risk is assumed. Value is produced, yes..but the most upwardly mobile Nigerians still plan around exit, not reinvestment. That’s not a newspaper take....that’s observable behavior: remittance dependence, asset externalization, and career trajectories optimized for leaving or hedging. Nigeria runs on parallel systems: the formal one and the informal one. People succeed by knowing which to use when. That’s adaptive and impressive...but it’s not the same as institutions being the default. So this isn’t about dismissing Nigeria’s complexity. It’s about recognizing that when systems are optional, resilience rises...but compounding power doesn’t.💁♀️ |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Lionessza6(f): 1:09pm On Dec 20, 2025 |
Evilthoughts:To you, anyone who doesn’t shout, escape, or hunt attention is timid. That’s what happens when chaos is your baseline . Left a full Black country, landed in South Africa, discovered race relations ....now it’s a podcast 🙆♀️😅. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 1:12pm On Dec 20, 2025 |
JaceBlaze:Now, this is funny! You're all welcome on board. So long as we can rub minds "peacefully" and with respect for each other's views and opinions. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IronGalaxy: 1:23pm On Dec 20, 2025*. Modified: 7:50pm On Dec 20, 2025 |
Lionessza6:Exactly. Notice how they make noise and tell anyone who gaf about how they're the "Giants of Africa" unprovoked..? They have small man syndrome, and they disguise it with this excessive fake bravado.. I see through it |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 1:35pm On Dec 20, 2025 |
basilico:It has always been a "get Trump" move by the democraps. I said that several months back too. |
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