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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:19pm On Dec 27, 2025
basilico:
How is this advocating for paedophilia? Sometimes you people make a claim and double down.Joe Biden didn't release the documents yet all he needed was to catch Trump with a minor girl to knock him out completely.
How you reason you people?
Basilico change..change before 2026 starts..you cant be like this o next year..

grin grin...

Abandon this pdf of a man...be a good man..save your reputation.. let the world remember you for not aligning with a pdf enabler..

grin grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:38pm On Dec 27, 2025
benalvino3:
People who believe a genocide happened will also believe this.
But over 60k innocent people died..

Whether its called genocide or not..

God doesnt support it..it wasnt moral..

Children killed...that isnt moral..

Or is it moral?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:16pm On Dec 27, 2025
bayelsaowei:
But over 60k innocent people died..

Whether its called genocide or not..

God doesnt support it..it wasnt moral..

Children killed...that isnt moral..

Or is it moral?
Less than 30k innocent people died
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by RodgersAkpafu: 9:19pm On Dec 27, 2025
feedthenation:
---When decency was in the U.S. democracy---not like the one presently done under Felon 47----

George W. Bush invited President-elect Obama and all former living presidents for lunch---Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, both Democrats, and Republican George H.W. Bush---two weeks before Obama was in as 44th president of U.S.---
I remenber this

America has gone to hell
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:40pm On Dec 27, 2025
benalvino3:
Less than 30k innocent people died
embarassed

You don reduce the number?

E good?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:40pm On Dec 27, 2025
bayelsaowei:
embarassed

You don reduce the number?

E good?
The 67k figure you mention did not differentiate between Hamas fighters and civilians. Take a look at a summary of this report, as it explains why women and children are seen freezing in the snow. - AI images

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/media/7168?disposition=inline

📌 Summary of the Report
How Hamas Manipulates Gaza Fatality Numbers
Washington Institute for Near East Policy — January 2024

🧩 Core Argument
The report argues that fatality figures released by Hamas‑run institutions in Gaza—the Ministry of Health (MOH) and the Government Media Office (GMO)—are methodologically unreliable, internally inconsistent, and strategically manipulated, especially after November 10, 2023.

The central claim:
➡️ Hamas systematically undercounts adult male deaths, the demographic most likely to include combatants, while inflating or over‑emphasizing women and children to shape global perception and constrain Israel’s military operations.

🔍 Key Findings
1. Fatality reporting collapsed after the ground invasion
Before Oct 27, Gaza’s MOH provided disaggregated data (men, women, children, elderly).

After Nov 10, the MOH admitted it could no longer count northern Gaza deaths and began relying on “reliable media sources”—not hospital or morgue data.

By late December, over 60% of reported deaths came from media reports, not medical systems.

2. Major inconsistencies in the numbers
The report documents:

Frequent downward revisions of adult male fatalities (e.g., men decreasing by 72 on Oct 29; by 274 on Nov 5).

Impossible demographic ratios, such as:

Children allegedly making up 69% of deaths during one 3‑day period in October.

GMO figures implying almost no men died in northern Gaza during 51 days of heavy ground fighting.

3. GMO vs. MOH numbers diverge dramatically
On Dec 11:

MOH central system: 39% male fatalities.

GMO: only 23% male fatalities.

GMO’s numbers imply only ~10 men died in northern Gaza over 51 days — statistically implausible.

4. No independent verification
UN agencies (OCHA, UNRWA) could not verify Gaza fatality numbers for the first time in any Gaza conflict.

NGOs that previously verified deaths (e.g., Al Mezan) did not operate during this war.

5. Hamas has strong incentives to distort
The report argues Hamas benefits strategically by:

Emphasizing women/children deaths to mobilize international outrage.

Obscuring combatant deaths to hide military losses.

Using fatality claims to pressure Israel and influence global institutions (media, NGOs, ICJ).

⚖️ What the Report Does Not Claim
It does not deny that thousands of civilians have been killed.

It does not claim to know the true civilian‑combatant ratio.

It does not assert Israeli numbers are fully accurate.

Instead, it argues that current Gaza fatality data cannot support definitive conclusions about proportionality or intent.

🧠 Bottom Line
The report concludes that Hamas‑produced fatality statistics are inconsistent, unverifiable, and likely manipulated, especially regarding the number of adult men killed.
Because of this, no reliable assessment of civilian vs. combatant deaths can currently be made.

If you want, I can also extract:

Key contradictions in a table

A timeline of reporting failures

A critique of the report’s methodology

A neutral summary suitable for sharing or posting

Just tell me the angle you want.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:30am On Dec 28, 2025
bayelsaowei:
But over 60k innocent people died..

Whether its called genocide or not..

God doesnt support it..it wasnt moral..

Children killed...that isnt moral..

Or is it moral?
You don't seem to notice the last it snowed in Gaza was 2013.

Tells how propaganda shapes your positions ,believing everything that is pushed by dishonest media and terrorists.

Are you that dumb to believe Hamas 60K innocent dead ?
Maybe if you believe Israel should just let Hamas murder it's citizenry because of "occupation '.

No different from your attitude towards Trump. You been fed an overdose of propaganda.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:42am On Dec 28, 2025
The no tax on tips .
This was a big win for around 4 million people.
TDS clearly the reason Governors want to suppress the law. Add Maine Governor to the list.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:50am On Dec 28, 2025
Democrats accused Putin of helping Trump win in 2016. Working with FBI and CIA they set him up When he won they paralysed his administration with the Mueller Inquisition . All along they knew there was no attempt by Putin to help Trump.
They rigged the 2020 elections and then raided his home looking for documents that he had declassified Which probably revealed their roles in the criminal conspiracy against his rights.
They keep repeating about protecting their democracy from Trump suggesting he kowtows to foreign nations

Yet in 2024 the UK Labour party sent around 100 staff to campaign for Kamala..
Make it make sense.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:33am On Dec 28, 2025
I've never hidden my disdain for the EU. I support the EU as an economic block .The politicization of the EU with national soverignities being subservient to Brussel is really what I detest.
That again boils down to the liberal progressive governing. The far left liberals are in control ,they seek to entrench themselves and they have no room for opposition.

An article contends that the EU could be gone in ... 4 years .

https://brusselssignal.eu/2025/12/the-eu-could-be-gone-in-four-years-a-revolutionary-eruption-is-coming/


Some excerpts .
Regarding how daily life in EU has been upended by migration Young German men are asking a very logical question: “You want us to pay high taxes to support a migration policy that imports young men from Syria who live on welfare, and then you want to conscript us to fight a Russian tank in Eastern Europe?
. crime stats are fine, but the anxiety is real. A society where mundane activities require military protection is not a healthy society. This is why voters in Austria, the Netherlands, and increasingly Germany are looking toward Hungary and asking why the Hungarians don’t have these problems.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:36am On Dec 28, 2025
basilico:
You don't seem to notice the last it snowed in Gaza was 2013.

Tells how propaganda shapes your positions ,believing everything that is pushed by dishonest media and terrorists.

Are you that dumb to believe Hamas 60K innocent dead ?
Maybe if you believe Israel should just let Hamas murder it's citizenry because of "occupation '.

No different from your attitude towards Trump. You been fed an overdose of propaganda.
Ok..so how many innocent people were killed Mr Man?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m):
benalvino3:
The 67k figure you mention did not differentiate between Hamas fighters and civilians. Take a look at a summary of this report, as it explains why women and children are seen freezing in the snow. - AI images

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/media/7168?disposition=inline
Ok..so how many innocent women and children combined were killed ?

Give us the numbers from the isreali media or pro IDF media..

I will work with the numbers from Netanyahu..

Just provide that number.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:21am On Dec 28, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Ok..so how many innocent people were killed Mr Man?
I can't tell how many pray every day for their deity to slaughter the Jews or freeze the blood in their veins until the last Jew is exterminated.
If that's the kind killed they may not be innocent.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:24am On Dec 28, 2025
basilico:
I can't tell how many pray every day for their deity to slaughter the Jews or freeze the blood in their veins until the last Jew is exterminated.
If that's the kind killed they may not be innocent.
Youre not a serious person..

My friend give me numbers to work with... angry angry

Even if it is your own numbers..I will work with it..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:42am On Dec 28, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Youre not a serious person..

My friend give me numbers to work with... angry angry

Even if it is your own numbers..I will work with it..
I sint have the numbers of passive combatants. Those unarmed who stated desire is to see IDF murdered on the streets of Gaza.
How many you think they are?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 10:44am On Dec 28, 2025
basilico:
You don't seem to notice the last it snowed in Gaza was 2013.

Tells how propaganda shapes your positions ,believing everything that is pushed by dishonest media and terrorists.

Are you that dumb to believe Hamas 60K innocent dead ?
Maybe if you believe Israel should just let Hamas murder it's citizenry because of "occupation '.

No different from your attitude towards Trump. You been fed an overdose of propaganda.
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Any occupation is legitimate grounds to fight the occupiers.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:11am On Dec 28, 2025
DeepSight:
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Any occupation is legitimate grounds to fight the occupiers.
Including raping hostages.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DeepSight(m): 12:06pm On Dec 28, 2025
basilico:
Including raping hostages.
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I trust you know IDF Soldiers did same.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:15pm On Dec 28, 2025
DeepSight:
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I trust you know IDF Soldiers did same.
And it was shameful ,condemned and investigated if it ever happened not glorified by any Israel citizen. Unlike the other side who behave like neanderthals.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:44pm On Dec 28, 2025
How do they let these people in?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 5:24pm On Dec 28, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Ok..so how many innocent women and children combined were killed ?

Give us the numbers from the isreali media or pro IDF media..

I will work with the numbers from Netanyahu..

Just provide that number.
Why do you like to project falsehoods as source?
You know they don't distinguish between combatant and civilians.

People from age 18 and down are regarded as children. People from 15 are joining to fight.

Your 67k figure has too much issues.

They don't distinguish compatants,
Children are also hamas fighters between age 15 to 18.
No natural deaths
No death by friendly fires

I maintain less than 30k from the numbers you like to call are actual women and children.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:58pm On Dec 28, 2025
benalvino3:
How do they let these people in?
Liberals bring them in , throw welfare at them in return for their votes.
Modern liberals are likely to lose in christian majority nations ,the solution is for them to import voters . They feign love for all humanity ,dare you try to cross them and they will crush you to smitherens.
Ilhan Omars daughter

. Eyal Yakoby
@EYakoby
Ilhan Omar’s daughter posted on Instagram, wishing death to the “colonial empire from LA to Rafah.”

She’s just saying what Ilhan’s too scared to admit: they hate the United States and want to burn it down—and they’re not even hiding it anymore.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 10:17pm On Dec 28, 2025
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/epstein-survivor-claims-she-met-donald-trump-multiple-times-through-ghislaine-maxwell/ar-AA1TaK1m?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=69519bdc555e46058ff7072d606a39cd&ei=19

This is from mainstream media o....

Anouska De Georgiou, a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, revealed she met former President Donald Trump “on several occasions” through one of Epstein’s closest associates.

In an interview with BBC Newsnight, De Georgiou, a friend of the late Virginia Giuffre, stated that Ghislaine Maxwell is responsible for her interaction with the president. “Ghislaine Maxwell did introduce me to him and she introduced me to him with a clear message of my being with him in the same way that she had trafficked me and brought me to Jeffrey Epstein,” she claimed.

When asked how Trump reacted during their encounters, De Georgiou spoke from her own experience, stating, “I can only speak for myself, and this is in no way to negate any other experiences that anyone else might have had with him, but, at no time did President Trump behave with any impropriety with me.”


I have said it time and again that this Epstein shyt is another hoax. The democrats are in for another epic fail!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:59pm On Dec 28, 2025
benalvino3:
Why do you like to project falsehoods as source?
You know they don't distinguish between combatant and civilians.

People from age 18 and down are regarded as children. People from 15 are joining to fight.

Your 67k figure has too much issues.

They don't distinguish compatants,
Children are also hamas fighters between age 15 to 18.
No natural deaths
No death by friendly fires

I maintain less than 30k from the numbers you like to call are actual women and children.
Ok..so less than or equals to 30k innocent women and children slaughtered and killed.

Does that sound better?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:22pm On Dec 28, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Ok..so less than or equals to 30k innocent women and children slaughtered and killed.

Does that sound better?
It does not sound better so why do they want to inflate the numbers, why do you like inflated numbers?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:09am On Dec 29, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Ok..so how many innocent people were killed Mr Man?
See what they trying to feed you.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 1:40am On Dec 29, 2025
budaatum:
See what they trying to feed you.
I know..

I am just trying to really understand what his stance is..

The numbers or the action of killing innocent women and children irrespective of the numbers??

I just want to get to his conscience..whether it is still working or not..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 1:41am On Dec 29, 2025
benalvino3:
It does not sound better so why do they want to inflate the numbers, why do you like inflated numbers?
Ok.. it doesnt sound better.. but youre more concerned about the numbers than the actual wickedness perpetrated against these innocent humans..
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:32am On Dec 29, 2025
bayelsaowei:
Ok.. it doesnt sound better.. but youre more concerned about the numbers than the actual wickedness perpetrated against these innocent humans..
There is no wickedness here. There is no war that is clean where innocent did not die. Even the wars God commanded.

In as much as its bad for people dying, the reality of war is what it is.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:06am On Dec 29, 2025
bayelsaowei:
But over 60k innocent people died..

Whether its called genocide or not..

God doesnt support it..it wasnt moral..

Children killed...that isnt moral..

Or is it moral?
Its immoral for Hamas to use innocent children as human shield to prosecute their war on Israel
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:38am On Dec 29, 2025
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