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FreeIgboho:
I can assure you 90% of Igbos who are established in the West don't want to wake up one day to find they're in a foreign country. You see how South Africans treat Nigerians, it will be 100 times worse.
The North is a different matter - they won't agree to separation. So the whole thing is a waste of time!

100 times worse? Then you don't know the Igbos...

Those who know are the ones scared of letting the Igbos govern themselves by themselves...

You don't know the Igbos, even south Africa will stop that nonsense if it was a Biafran only country...

I just notice you have people have lived with the Igbos for long but know very little about the Igbos.

I used to tell my brothers something, that if Nigeria was only the north and the Igbos there would have been just mainly 2 outcomes:

1. Nigeria would have split peacefully a long time ago without fight or

2. The north and the Igbos would have been living in peace with clear cut boundaries and respect for each other.

It is the Yorubas who keep giving the north the confidence to do nonsense...

You don't know the Igbos...

Victim mentality is a deaseas

Wisdomkosi:
Source : https://newsmaxng.com/2025/12/29/how-british-colonial-policies-entrenched-lifelong-discrimination-against-igbo-nigerian-christians/

The igbos discriminated against themselves. They abolished the regional governments in Nigeria and replaced with unitary system of government.
Secondly, they opposed referendum to be included our first constitution in Nigeria. They are the architects of their own misfortune. To make matters worse, they carried out an ethnically biased coup in Nigeria and killed the greatest leaders of Hausa and Yoruba.

Brendaniel:
100 times worse? Then you don't know the Igbos...

Those who know are the ones scared of letting the Igbos govern themselves by themselves...

You don't know the Igbos, even south Africa will stop that nonsense if it was a Biafran only country...

I just notice you have people have lived with the Igbos for long but know very little about the Igbos.

I used to tell my brothers something, that if Nigeria was only the north and the Igbos there would have been just mainly 2 outcomes:

1. Nigeria would have split peacefully a long time ago without fight or

2. The north and the Igbos would have been living in peace with clear cut boundaries and respect for each other.

It is the Yorubas who keep giving the north the confidence to do nonsense...

You don't know the Igbos...

You know the Igbos better than Ojukwu who led the fight for secession but later in life said the time for that had passed. South Africans kill Igbos constantly and if it weren't that it is a somewhat westernized country with many enlightened citizens it'd be worse. The West and South South are not like that. They'd take Igbo's property and their Police will look the other way (remember, it'd now be THEIR Police, and THEIR courts and judges and Supreme Courts). Stop being in denial of what will certainly happen

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Brendaniel:
The north took advantage of it? Only the north ?

So OBJ is now a northerner?

Secondly all the people and positions you mentioned didnt have absolute power if not you should have also included Osinbajo to take the blame like Alex Ekwueme....

The VP position is only limited to whatever power the president gives him if not Osibanjo would have been blamed with Buhari for bad governance...

So what exactly is your point?

My point is that Igbo and the North dominated the first 2 or 3 Republics and it is odd that the Igbo have suddenly become purported political victims to be pitied as being narrated by some.

Below is an overview of Nigeria's republics, presidents, vice presidents, and senate presidents from independence to date. Note the absence of Southwest representation in the First, Second and Third Republics. In the Fourth Republic, South Eastern Region has Goodluck Jonathan as President for 6 years in addition to Senate Presidents.

First Republic (1963-1966)
- President: Nnamdi Azikiwe (1963-1966)
- Prime Minister: Abubakar Tafawa Balewa (1960-1966)
- Senate President: Nnamdi Azikiwe (1960), Dennis Osadebay (1960-1963), Nwafor Orizu (1963-1966)

Second Republic (1979-1983)
- President: Shehu Shagari (1979-1983)
- Vice President: Alex Ekwueme
- Senate President: Joseph Wayas (1979-1983)

Third Republic (1992-1993)
- President: Ibrahim Babangida (1985-1993), Ernest Shonekan (1993)
- Vice President: Augustus Aikhomu, Oladipo Diya
- Senate President: Iyorchia Ayu (1992-1993), Ameh Ebute (1993)

Fourth Republic (1999-Present)
- Presidents:
- Olusegun Obasanjo (1999-2007)
- Umaru Musa Yar'Adua (2007-2010)
- Goodluck Jonathan (2010-2015)
- Muhammadu Buhari (2015-2023)
- Bola Tinubu (2023-present)
- Vice Presidents:
- Atiku Abubakar (1999-2007)
- Goodluck Jonathan (2007-2010)
- Namadi Sambo (2010-2015)
- Yemi Osinbajo (2015-2023)
- Kashim Shettima (2023-present)
- Senate Presidents:
- Evan Enwerem (1999)
- Chuba Okadigbo (1999-2000)
- Anyim Pius Anyim (2000-2003)
- Adolphus Wabara (2003-2005)
- Ken Nnamani (2005-2007)
- David Mark (2007-2015)
- Bukola Saraki (2015-2019)
- Ahmed Lawan (2019-2023)
- Godswill Akpabio (2023-present)

Metrofox:
Keep quiet, stealing people's money and giving them 20pounds each is a mere disagreement

Ok sir

obawinner:
Don't Igbos get tired always seeking victims?

-Was it the British that made you lose the south south alliance?

-Was it the British that made azikwe contesting head of state in South West this leaving his own region bereft of quality leadership?

-Were you not the first president?

-Were you not the first of alot of development in Nigeria so much that your leader boasted of being the one to save the black man race?

-Was it the British that sponsored the massive brain drain of the south east to other regions which still happens till date?

- Was it the British that made you reject the secession clause that could have allowed you shaped your region destiny?

-zik and ojukwu ruined your destiny in the 90s, you allowed Nnamdi kanu ruined it in the 20s.

Your leaders took a lot of senseless decisions and miss strategic decisions pre independence of which the pains you will inherit till tommrow.

you forgot nzeogwu destroying democracy and ironsi destroying federalism?

Babinski:
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My point is that Igbo and the North dominated the first 2 or 3 Republics and it is odd that the Igbo have suddenly become purported political victims to be pitied as being narrated by some.

Below is an overview of Nigeria's republics, presidents, vice presidents, and senate presidents from independence to date. Note the absence of Southwest representation in the First, Second and Third Republics. In the Fourth Republic, South Eastern Region has Goodluck Jonathan as President for 6 years in addition to Senate Presidents.

First Republic (1963-1966)
- President: Nnamdi Azikiwe (1963-1966)
- Prime Minister: Abubakar Tafawa Balewa (1960-1966)
- Senate President: Nnamdi Azikiwe (1960), Dennis Osadebay (1960-1963), Nwafor Orizu (1963-1966)

Second Republic (1979-1983)
- President: Shehu Shagari (1979-1983)
- Vice President: Alex Ekwueme
- Senate President: Joseph Wayas (1979-1983)

Third Republic (1992-1993)
- President: Ibrahim Babangida (1985-1993), Ernest Shonekan (1993)
- Vice President: Augustus Aikhomu, Oladipo Diya
- Senate President: Iyorchia Ayu (1992-1993), Ameh Ebute (1993)

Fourth Republic (1999-Present)
- Presidents:
- Olusegun Obasanjo (1999-2007)
- Umaru Musa Yar'Adua (2007-2010)
- Goodluck Jonathan (2010-2015)
- Muhammadu Buhari (2015-2023)
- Bola Tinubu (2023-present)
- Vice Presidents:
- Atiku Abubakar (1999-2007)
- Goodluck Jonathan (2007-2010)
- Namadi Sambo (2010-2015)
- Yemi Osinbajo (2015-2023)
- Kashim Shettima (2023-present)
- Senate Presidents:
- Evan Enwerem (1999)
- Chuba Okadigbo (1999-2000)
- Anyim Pius Anyim (2000-2003)
- Adolphus Wabara (2003-2005)
- Ken Nnamani (2005-2007)
- David Mark (2007-2015)
- Bukola Saraki (2015-2019)
- Ahmed Lawan (2019-2023)
- Godswill Akpabio (2023-present)

So that means we can also blame Yemi Osinbajo for the bad governance Buhari did abi?

And for that reason we should never support him to become president if he comes out tomorrow abi?

FreeIgboho:
You know the Igbos better than Ojukwu who led the fight for secession but later in life said the time for that had passed. South Africans kill Igbos constantly and if it weren't that it is a somewhat westernized country with many enlightened citizens it'd be worse. The West and South South are not like that. They'd take Igbo's property and their Police will look the other way (remember, it'd now be THEIR Police, and THEIR courts and judges and Supreme Courts). Stop being in denial of what will certainly happen

It is you who is living in self denial and doesn't know the Igbos, why do you think the south east is the most militarized region in Nigeria even before MNK started IPOB?

Was south east the most dangerous place to live at the time?

The problem with you guys is you people are not detailed and miss a who lot of things, why do you think the north has stopped attacking the Igbos in the north?

Even while Buhari was in power.

When last did you hear of any attack?

The only place noise is still being made against the Igbos in Nigeria is the south west and the reasons are now very clear, it is not even about Tinubu if that's what you think...

You guys have lived so long with the Igbos and don't know the Igbos, the ones who know among you are either scared of seeing the Igbos have their own country or simply give the Igbos respect.

But for you, you are still far from reality, like I always tell you guys, time will reveal it to you even if you don't want to know...

Cromagnon:
you forgot nzeogwu destroying democracy and ironsi destroying federalism?

They have never had a selfless leaders.
Yet, they are the loudest.

Brendaniel:
It is you who is living in self denial and doesn't know the Igbos, why do you think the south east is the most militarized region in Nigeria even before MNK started IPOB?

Was south east the most dangerous place to live at the time?

The problem with you guys is you people are not detailed and miss a who lot of things, why do you think the north has stopped attacking the Igbos in the north?

Even while Buhari was in power.

When last did you hear of any attack?

The only place noise is still being made against the Igbos in Nigeria is the south west and the reasons are now very clear, it is not even about Tinubu if that's what you think...

You guys have lived so long with the Igbos and don't know the Igbos, the ones who know among you are either scared of seeing the Igbos have their own country or simply give the Igbos respect.

But for you, you are still far from reality, like I always tell you guys, time will reveal it to you even if you don't want to know...

Amazing, simply amazing. None is so blind as one who refuses to see. "You don't know Igbos"!. So why is MNK in jail all this time despite Igbos? So why is SE militarized despite Igbos. Abd why not tell us why the North stopped attacking Igbos (according to you) and what it has to do with knowing Igbos? Mention one thing that results in knowing Igbos. Amazing, simply amazing. Burying head in the sand and refusing to take it out!

FreeIgboho:
Amazing, simply amazing. None is so blind as one who refuses to see. "You don't know Igbos"!. So why is MNK in jail all this time despite Igbos? So why is SE militarized despite Igbos. Abd why not tell us why the North stopped attacking Igbos (according to you) and what it has to do with knowing Igbos? Mention one thing that results in knowing Igbos. Amazing, simply amazing. Burying head in the sand and refusing to take it out!

All the questions you asked here is because of the same reason I am talking about, "the fear of the Igbos" ....

The question you should be asking is why the south east is more militarized than the north even though south east is far more safer than the north?

What is the fear of Nigeria about the south east?

The answer is what I just told you...

You don't know the Igbos, that's why, the people who know are the people either acting in fear or respect of the Igbos...

That's why some of them are ready to do anything to make sure the status quo remains like this for the Igbos in Nigeria, sadly that decision is pulling Nigeria backwards and destroying it, it is like a man hating his legs and instead, ties his legs to keep the leg from moving but forgetting that his body won't move either but keeps trying and believing he will move with his legs tied...

In a candid 1964 interview with foreign journalists, Sir Ahmadu Bello stated he would rather employ foreigners than Igbos in the northern civil service, citing fears of Igbo domination.

That's just the situation of Nigeria, It didn't just start today, you don't know the Igbos...

Brendaniel:
All the questions you asked here is because of the same reason I am talking about, "the fear of the Igbos" ....

The question you should be asking is why the south east is more militarized than the north even though south east is far more safer than the north?

What is the fear of Nigeria about the south east?

The answer is what I just told you...

You don't know the Igbos, that's why, the people who know are the people either acting in fear or respect of the Igbos...

That's why some of them are ready to do anything to make sure the status quo remains like this for the Igbos in Nigeria, sadly that decision is pulling Nigeria backwards and destroying it, it is like a man hating his legs and instead, ties his legs to keep the leg from moving but forgetting that his body won't move either but keeps trying and believing he will move with his legs tied...



That's just the situation of Nigeria, It didn't just start today, you don't know the Igbos...

Can you tell us ONE thing Igbos have done that warrants all this you're writing. They lost the civil war DESPITE initially winning and going all the way to Ore, and despite having South South in their corner. The North removed Ironsi after only 6 months and have dominated the military since. Ojukwu was pardoned and ran for president. How does that tally with fear? To add to all this, can you tell us HOW it benefits Igbos to have a land-locked country?? Remember, South South and their oil and ports are gone. Vast number of Igbos are in other parts of Nig. They'd now all be foreigners to be kicked out at will. You folks should THINK sometimes.
The Ahmadu Bello yiu talked about, how many Northerners were ranking military when he said that compared to today. How many were top govt officials? See the tape below - he said he'd hire "another Nigerian" last


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_odAy4rVz8?si=mKYA3su8y-pctxZo

IbeOkehie:
But the Igbo were also SELLING EACH OTHER as slaves to the same British.

I mean Igbo people SELLING other Igbo people as SLAVES to the British.

Yes, most other tribes in West Africa did the same thing to fellow Black Africans.

There's NOTHING the White Man did to the Igbo that's worse than selling your brethren into slavery.

The White Man came to Africa to save Negroes from other Negroes.

And it was the Igbo that insisted at the Lancaster Conference that Nigeria MUST remain in Perpetual Unity.

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/04/27/flashback-why-i-opposed-awolowo-on-secession-zik/?amp=1

The Sarduana and Awolowo wanted secession, Zik the ELECTED leader of the Igbo insisted on Unity. Where Malaysia and India split into more manageable pieces, the Igbo tried to use trickery to take over an Empire created by the British. Nigeria of today is the result.

This is like Buhari & Tinubu telling Nigerians in 2015 "There is nothing like fuel subsidy, Fuel subsidy doesn't exist".

Now y'all crawl back into your huts and holes and let us rest.

And don't quote me, just take the lesson and wisdom and do something worthwhile with it. Like, read some history on the internet. It's free.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Good to see you here again.

So, what is the long term solution based on the article and the responses so far?

Half the territory of the United States of America was bought with money or captured from Mexico. Majority of those living in the US today are not natives, but immigrants from Europe, you don't hear them complaining about their differences.

magicminister:
Quite apt! Despite all the attempts to destroy the Igbos, stealing what they had during and after the genocide, Igbos are still by far, the more economically successful as a group. How do you steal from someone, add it to yours, strip them of everything, only for them to catch up to you and surpass you?? God does not sleep!

By being petty traders,traffic gala hawkers and not been able to nurture even one business up to 49 years but killing their businesses with incompetence and laziness?
If Igbos are economically viable,they would come close to Yorubas who have businesses all over the world,have the highest number of black dollar billionaires in the world,control the petrol business chains and building material markets and most economic sectors in Nigeria than any other.Yorubaland has always been the least poverty stricken region in Nigeria with Osun and Ondo always coming tops.
Arch delusion is what makes a poor man say that he is rich.

Nigeria has several oil-producing states, primarily in the Niger Delta, with Akwa Ibom, Delta, Rivers, and Bayelsa leading, accounting for nearly 85% [/b]of total output, while other states like [b]Ondo, Lagos, Edo, Imo, Abia, and Anambra also contribute, with recent reports highlighting northern states like [b]Bauchi and Gombe [/b]starting production too. My brother Igbo land are not the only one producing oil or you want to start claiming another mans land as usaul?? . We are here to educate some of you so that you wont be thinking we are fools.

bobogogo:
You are not interested in spliting cos of oil.
#truth_hits_hard

FreeIgboho:
Can you tell us ONE thing Igbos have done that warrants all this you're writing. They lost the civil war DESPITE initially winning and going all the way to Ore, and despite having South South in their corner. The North removed Ironsi after only 6 months and have dominated the military since. Ojukwu was pardoned and ran for president. How does that tally with fear? To add to all this, can you tell us HOW it benefits Igbos to have a land-locked country?? Remember, South South and their oil and ports are gone. Vast number of Igbos are in other parts of Nig. They'd now all be foreigners to be kicked out at will. You folks should THINK sometimes.
The Ahmadu Bello yiu talked about, how many Northerners were ranking military when he said that compared to today. How many were top govt officials? See the tape below - he said he'd hire "another Nigerian" last


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_odAy4rVz8?si=mKYA3su8y-pctxZo

For you to say Igbos initially won the civil war means you know little to nothing about everything you wrote here, Igbos never initially won the war and did not win that war, you know little to nothing about Nigeria, no wonder you people behave the way you behave, you people are either not detailed, ,misinformed, wrongly assume or just live in self deceit and denial...

That's one major reason Nigeria is the way it is since you people and the north have been handling Nigeria, if as at now you don't know that Nigeria was not supposed to be a country and may never function as a country, you are still far from reality...

I will tell you another major problem you people have with the Igbos, Igbos are explicit with the truth and that's one thing I have noticed you people hate.

You know little to nothing about Nigeria or just simply living in self denial, look at the trajectory of Nigeria, you think Nigeria is where it is today because of PDP and APC?

No, Nigeria is where it today because of ideological differences, some countries wouldn't have lasted 5 years with such ideological differences, we don't reason alike...

What kept Nigeria to exist and stay a bit united this long was the long years of military rule back to back in the past, I know you may not understand but once civilian rule starts these ideological problems starts springing up, I've done my research and found out that the longer democracy stays the more these ideological problems of Nigeria may keep getting bigger, then end of problems is will either be division or killing the wrong ideologies of certain regions, I'm not here to support military rule, no, but based on my research this is just Nigeria for you.

Even the British knew this but somehow they wanted Nigeria as a country for their selfish interest, and that is what you people are killing yourselves and your fellow African tribes in Nigeria to keep existing...

You know little to nothing about Nigeria if you actually believe what you wrote up there...

Brendaniel:
So that means we can also blame Yemi Osinbajo for the bad governance Buhari did abi?

And for that reason we should never support him to become president if he comes out tomorrow abi?

When a team fails, every member gets the general blame regardless of whether you took an active role or not. Yemi Osinbajo had the choice of resigning his position. So, yes you can blame him. And to crown it all, the Igbo need to realize that they have major blame in how our country has turned out. Trying to climb on an imaginary high pedestal while shouting "Nigeria is a Zoo" is being economical with the truth.

It is so ironic that the same Igbo wouldn't mind being President of the same Zoo. Would Obi have declared Biafra immediately if he somehow became the President of Nigeria?

Babinski:
When a team fails, every member gets the general blame regardless of whether you took an active role or not. Yemi Osinbajo had the choice of resigning his position. So, yes you can blame him. And to crown it all, the Igbo need to realize that they have major blame in how our country has turned out. Trying to climb on an imaginary high pedestal while shouting "Nigeria is a Zoo" is being economical with the truth.

It is so ironic that the same Igbo wouldn't mind being President of the same Zoo. Would Obi have declared Biafra immediately if he somehow became the President of Nigeria?

So if Osinbajo comes out tomorrow for presidency, are you going to vote him?

Since you people don't want to let them have their country, we will continue contesting ...

Brendaniel:
So if Osinbajo comes out tomorrow for presidency, are you going to vote him?

Since you people don't want to let them have their country, we will continue contesting ...

Nigeria is a Zoo. Igboland is a Zoo. First turn Igboland into paradise and other Nigerians will beg you people to lead us.

Babinski:
Nigeria is a Zoo. Igboland is a Zoo. First turn Igboland into paradise and other Nigerians will beg you people to lead us.

You've not answered my question, you are trying to divert away from the discussion, did I ask you to vote any Igbo leader?

I asked you about your Yoruba man Osinbajo, why not answer the question?

abi is Osinbajo now an Igbo man?

Gerrard59:
Good to see you here again.

So, what is the long term solution based on the article and the responses so far?

Your question in reality goes beyond the article and rightly so because the article is a Big Lie. I grew up being fed the ideology in that article and in my first comment I easily debunked it without much sweat. There's detail and there's the overarching principle. Since I don't want to get bogged down on Nairaland, I'll do the principles.

DNA is the determinant of all human potential and that includes intelligence...I'll use IQ for ease.

Different individuals and GROUPS of humans have VARIATIONS of IQ. This is evident in the LONG TERM output and results from such individuals or groups.

Thankfully, good research has shown that IQ can change over time and generations.

We can then apply the above information to the well researched and proven principles that national development and HDI are correlated to the extent that a nation has the following factors = free markets, property rights, demographic homogeneity and democracy. This is fact. Improvement of IQ will lead to the implementation of these factors.

Nigeria had a minority tribe President named Jonathan. He withdrew fuel subsidies and the majority tribes and also the educated segments of all tribes protested and rioted and eventually voted him out.

Nigeria now has a President from a majority tribe coalition who abolished the same subsidy and there's peace. And also no more fuel scarcity.
Meaning, people would rather suffer under a ruler from their own tribe, than enjoy improved living standards under an "other" President.

The story of fuel subsidy in Nigeria illustrates EVERYTHING there is to know about when and how Nigeria is LIKELY to become a developed country. I remember suggesting on a different thread that the (far or Islamic) North of Nigeria should be left alone to pursue whatever kind of life they want and the usual "educated" Nigerian type - basically Azikiwe's ideological progeny - set upon me with all sorts of invective. Just imagine India and Pakistan together as one nation....with all the history and evidence in their own country, the "educated" Nigerian still insists on imposing their view on a people that resist....at massive cost of lives and resources.

So Nigeria will develop as the population IQ develops. It's a slow process. By the way, the general population IQ in the US/UK is in decline and and correlates with an increasingly diverse demography and the evidence is in the output such as a significantly polarized political situation. A significant number of people in those countries today would rather destroy or seriously degrade their economies than live under the continued dominance of Christian Anglo-Saxons.

Don't mind my cuckooo ranting though. The article accurately notes that the British are to blame for Igbo travails in Nigeria. We all know that colonialism destroyed Africa and we also know the REAL solution is increased co-operation, trade and friendship with China.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Brendaniel:
100 times worse? Then you don't know the Igbos...

Those who know are the ones scared of letting the Igbos govern themselves by themselves...

You don't know the Igbos, even south Africa will stop that nonsense if it was a Biafran only country...

I just notice you have people have lived with the Igbos for long but know very little about the Igbos.

I used to tell my brothers something, that if Nigeria was only the north and the Igbos there would have been just mainly 2 outcomes:

1. Nigeria would have split peacefully a long time ago without fight or

2. The north and the Igbos would have been living in peace with clear cut boundaries and respect for each other.

It is the Yorubas who keep giving the north the confidence to do nonsense...

You don't know the Igbos...

lol when Nigeria divides, the xenophobia igbos will face in the SW will be worse than that of south Africa

kingsavage:
lol when Nigeria divides, the xenophobia igbos will face in the SW will be worse than that of south Africa

Xenophobia will the last thing the SW will even think of by the time Igbos are done with them if they ever try or even think of trying it, I doubt it will come up as a thought to any South westerner...

You don't know the Igbos, even the north will not even think in that direction...

Brendaniel:
Xenophobia will the last thing the SW will even think of by the time Igbos are done with them if they ever try or even think of trying it, I doubt it will come up as a thought to any South westerner...

You don't know the Igbos, even the north will not even think in that direction...

Same North that despite all they do to Ndigbo, una still not wan comot.

Ndi Yoruba are quite open anyway, no xenophobic behaviour about them

aswani:
Same North that despite all they do to Ndigbo, una still not wan comot.

Ndi Yoruba are quite open anyway, no xenophobic behaviour about them

When last did you hear any attack on the Igbos in the north ?

even before Buhari left power...

The problem with you people is you don't know the Igbos, Igbos will go anywhere they can make money even if it is in the north, you people have lived so long but still very far from knowing Igbos...

it is very hard to drive Igbos from a place they are making money...

Brendaniel:
For you to say Igbos initially won the civil war means you know little to nothing about everything you wrote here, Igbos never initially won the war and did not win that war, you know little to nothing about Nigeria, no wonder you people behave the way you behave, you people are either not detailed, ,misinformed, wrongly assume or just live in self deceit and denial...

That's one major reason Nigeria is the way it is since you people and the north have been handling Nigeria, if as at now you don't know that Nigeria was not supposed to be a country and may never function as a country, you are still far from reality...

I will tell you another major problem you people have with the Igbos, Igbos are explicit with the truth and that's one thing I have noticed you people hate.

You know little to nothing about Nigeria or just simply living in self denial, look at the trajectory of Nigeria, you think Nigeria is where it is today because of PDP and APC?

No, Nigeria is where it today because of ideological differences, some countries wouldn't have lasted 5 years with such ideological differences, we don't reason alike...

What kept Nigeria to exist and stay a bit united this long was the long years of military rule back to back in the past, I know you may not understand but once civilian rule starts these ideological problems starts springing up, I've done my research and found out that the longer democracy stays the more these ideological problems of Nigeria may keep getting bigger, then end of problems is will either be division or killing the wrong ideologies of certain regions, I'm not here to support military rule, no, but based on my research this is just Nigeria for you.

Even the British knew this but somehow they wanted Nigeria as a country for their selfish interest, and that is what you people are killing yourselves and your fellow African tribes in Nigeria to keep existing...

You know little to nothing about Nigeria if you actually believe what you wrote up there...

I am discussing with someone who doesn't understand English. I never said Biafra won the Civil War, I said Biafra was WINNING the war in the beginning, which is a historical fact.
But that aside, you were told to mention ONE thing Igbos have DONE to warrant all you said. You couldn't mention one.

The funny and most amazing thing is that you are from the LEAST AUTONOMOUS tribe in the country. Yorubas wanting to separate may make a bit of sense. But Igbos? How can so many of you be established in other parts of the country yet YOU are the one talking separation? It'll make a bit if sense if Igbos stayed in Igbo land, but no, they're in large numbers all over the country! The whole thing is BIZZARE! It's like if Nigeria and South Africa were one country, Nigerians in South Africa saying they want to separate!

As for everything else you wrote, Nigeria is here to stay despite it's flaws. Like Ojukwu said, it's too late to be talking of separation. Stop wasting your time and energies. Direct them to something more productive.
** AND even if by some miracle there were separation it is the Igbos that will be most cheated!

fredoooooo:
Ask Azikwe and ironsi the truth

This junk is an over flogged propaganda from the irredeemable sad wasté.