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| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 8:01pm On Dec 30, 2025 |
In October, I withdrew all my money from the equity fund because it dropped so much. Had I been patient, I would be smiling with half a million naira as at today. Investing in an equity fund is a risk, I concur, and I am willing to take the risk. Creditalerts: |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 8:56pm On Dec 30, 2025 |
EquityM:na man u be hmmm I'm still growing I'm not ready for such risk yet .good luck 😁 |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 8:58pm On Dec 30, 2025*. Modified: 5:31am On Dec 31, 2025 |
EquityM:Not worth the risk for me |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bassdow: 9:22pm On Dec 30, 2025 |
VeeInsider:you don't have to point out what raised your suspicion. I don talk am before, very soon, just very very soon, people go put their money in an MMM platform unknowingly. How many people ever confirms with SEC or the likes ? All they need is make a couple of noise (advertising) and talk about how this one has so so rate among others and the crowd go swing go there. Don't forget, no be everyBody wey dey rush jump into Bus dey go somewhere; some just need that opportunity to pick pockets / bags. No be everybody in here be ordinary investoor; some na valid marketers - Hopefully, the fraudulent ones never join BUT if they haven't, it's just a matter of time. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bassdow: 9:24pm On Dec 30, 2025 |
Iamblessed88:even if it takes one 2-years to make that 500,000 naira, it's better on MMF except such person can afford the risk |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bassdow: 9:40pm On Dec 30, 2025 |
rukyboy:for those of us without apps, just go to https://blunest.stanbicibtcassetmanagement.com/explore/mutual-funds/ via your web broowser and you would see the rates. To confirm the rates, just do the calculation for the day and watch out what would be creditied to your dashboard by 12am or latest 12:30am |
| Re: Mutual Funds by VeeInsider: 11:24pm On Dec 30, 2025 |
emmasoft:Thank you. I was only stating my observation. That's all. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 1:17am On Dec 31, 2025 |
500k in 10 days; Equity can pay that in 2days, depends on how healthy your funds are. Nevertheless, you can also lose it all in 5 days if the market deteriorates. As you stated, it is risky. However, some fund managers are good at research; it is unlikely to lose a huge sum of money except if Nigeria's economy goes south. Iamblessed88: |
| Re: Mutual Funds by jfub: 4:45am On Dec 31, 2025 |
emmasoft:Please, when I withdraw (I do withdrawals monthly) from my money market investment will it be taxed based on the new tax law commencing in January 2026 even if I am not withdrawing up to 800,000 Naira? |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 5:36am On Dec 31, 2025*. Modified: 5:57am On Dec 31, 2025 |
EquityM:Not Nigeria economy but the underlying companies bought by your stock manager. Nigeria only affects "All share index" when the government policies are unfavourably like in the case of two months ago CGT 30% miscommunication. The market suddenly crashed in two days because two things the market hates are noise and sentiments over government policies. What made the crash hit hard is because, foreign and institutional investors withdrew their money due to lack of clarity on Tax, it only took the Finance Minister Wale Edun to restore calmness in the market. Now in such scenario, that's where the volitility and risk of your investment lies in even if all companies your stock manager picked were great— Imagine you were 500k up in gains but it reduces suddenly to 100k and even begin to eat deep into your capital and never fully recovers because since then till now some stocks has NOT fully recovered. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 5:40am On Dec 31, 2025 |
jfub:The issue of Tax has not fully been communicated. Many are saying it won't be Taxed here but they themselves also lack clarity as the government is yet to outline clear plans for investment Tax. The only thing known for now is only bond investment is Tax free and any other type or capital gain tax is still being under review after the crash of stocks market 2 months back. Yes, the tax policy kicks off in January 1st but not in all sectors of the economy, and Capital gain tax is one of them. The reason being that, it's still under review. To be safe, keep withdrawing and add the right narration when paying in your money. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 5:55am On Dec 31, 2025 |
bassdow:lol some people really don't care or bother themself with how much they getting daily. If you notice, the question they usually ask here is: "If I invest ### amount, how much will I be getting at the end of the month." The average joe out there is concerned with end of the month gains. Only technical people like you track daily returns. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bharkarh(m): 6:01am On Dec 31, 2025 |
Beeron:I honestly don’t know why people are loyal to one brand. This is what I’ve been doing with cowry wise. Just go with the one with highest rate. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 6:06am On Dec 31, 2025 |
I get it. I'm interested in growth, so I will be sticking with it and MMF for stability and an escape route. CardinalStone equity at the moment is really doing well, as they heavily research their equity portfolio. I just hope the new tax law will be fair to investors. Beeron: |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bassdow: 6:07am On Dec 31, 2025 |
Beeron:I only said that as a way for the person who asked question to confirm the rate which is what was asked. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 6:07am On Dec 31, 2025 |
Beeron:No one becomes a complex or technical investor from day one. Complexity naturally catches up with you over time. In the beginning, you may not care much about some things but you will soon realize those little nuances add up to the big picture. Case in point, when i first ventured into the investing/ the stock market, i never knew about nor cared for things like ASI, MPR, Interest rates and other marco economic factors. I was soon to find out those were the drivers for the things i cared about. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bassdow: 6:09am On Dec 31, 2025 |
bharkarh:A woman who is in your Life solely because of your wealth would be gone the moment that wealth is no more BUT if there are other reasons She's in your life for, She rarely would leave that easily or at all. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 6:12am On Dec 31, 2025 |
EquityM:Every fund manager does well in a bullish market. I hope your case does not become like someone here who wrote an album titled the iniquities of equity. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bharkarh(m): 6:12am On Dec 31, 2025 |
bassdow:that’s not a Ponzi if I must say. Why should I keep my money in the bank when there is a MMF? Just think about it. You think your money is also safe at the bank? Lol |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bassdow: 6:14am On Dec 31, 2025 |
Iamblessed88:or mayBe He's here scouting for |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 6:15am On Dec 31, 2025 |
bharkarh:The issue of brand is deeply rooted in the structure of communication and vested interest of some people here on Nairaland. Due to referral code benefits, they shove a particular brand down your throat here making the brand look all shiny and glossy. This makes the beginner investors coming here for information thinks Stanbic is the best and will always be the best. It creates a bias and cognitive dissonance to other brands It will only take time for you to have a second thought like "wait, how come I hear only Stanbic more often here than other MMF managers." Stanbic low rates is beginning to challenge their previous knowledge, that's why most of them suddenly realize, "oh wait, there are others too offering good returns — I will move 50% out of Stanbic." |
| Re: Mutual Funds by bassdow: 6:15am On Dec 31, 2025 |
bharkarh:there's a reason in secondary school, in english class, we're told to read a passage at least twice before |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 6:18am On Dec 31, 2025 |
Not all fund managers; I am also trading the Quantum Zenith equity fund, and it has been chaotic. Thank God I only have 11,000 naira there. CardinalStone going from 36% YTD to 56.20% YTD in just two months is amazing. Iamblessed88: |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 6:18am On Dec 31, 2025 |
bharkarh:Fund manager shopping is easier if you aren’t moving huge funds. The more your capital grows, the risk of moving it around increases. At that point, you also begin to look at things like brand/reputation, AUM, longevity, etc as apposed to rates alone which is fleeting anyway. At that point also, an extra 2% would not make or break you in any way nor will it alter your standard of living in any way |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 6:21am On Dec 31, 2025 |
EquityM:chief, I have said it before and I will say it again. I salute you, I doff my hat for you. You are the realest investor I see here. "...Not because of your risk but because of your COURAGE." That's how Warren Buffett puts it. Keep the dice rolling bro. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 6:28am On Dec 31, 2025 |
Cheers, bro. I'll contact you in case I wanna buy a growing stock. Beeron: |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 6:36am On Dec 31, 2025 |
EquityM:I publish that on my YouTube page every Monday or Tuesday. Check my latest stocks recommendation video I posted yesterday. Happy New Year to you Chief. Warm Regards to the family. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by chimex38: 7:10am On Dec 31, 2025 |
Beeron:Why you might hear Stanbic more Stanbic has the brand and reputation. If you check how long this thread has been, most other fund managers were just starting up or non existant when Stanbic was already deep in the game in Nigeria. Reputation/brand, Assets under Management, longevity and deep knowledge of various Fund management including MMF made Stanbic pioners in this segment. Most oldies on this thread probably used Stanbic and so naturally recommend it. There rates are sometimes low in comparison, but the High networth investors which they have courted over the years of their monopoly seem to stick with them cuz of other factors and ease of moving. but they have had largest market share for sometime. Though that gap is closing with awareness and others offering retail options that Stanbic were slow to adjust at first. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 7:11am On Dec 31, 2025 |
EquityM:Then what will you say about guys like Halo equity fund that have done circa 170% YTD and Magna carter fund that has done circa 80%? Stanbic also has done circa 63% YTD on their equity fund. Cardinal stone is even lagging behind |
| Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 7:15am On Dec 31, 2025 |
Yes, they are lagging behind the big boys. I think they just started the fund last year in Feb. I was told dividend is also distributed annually apart from the capital gains. Iamblessed88: |
| Re: Mutual Funds by chimex38: 7:33am On Dec 31, 2025 |
bassdow:To paraphrase: A younger woman might leave once one is broke a bit and you can only provide 2 square meals a day. She seeks 3 square meals plus dessert and flamboyant outings. but an older woman with wealth of life experience and knows the value of other benefits you offer her at that age might still stick with you. Afterall she doesn't eat much these days and not flamboyant. So she can make do with your twice daily food offer. That's part of why people hardly move to other assets plus cost implication. Either they are older and prioritize other non-financial value FIRST or have large asset, different to move around. They need to be sure to stick with one less likely to close shop. some have grown to have insiders that give them express service over the years with the bank. Such relationships establish trust and are critical and difficult to build again while moving to another. |
| Re: Mutual Funds by chimex38: 7:34am On Dec 31, 2025 |
Let's say someone with 50M at 15% earns 7.5m yearly. Enough for his/her yearly expenses with leftover. Plus other values, customer service, ease of location, etc. Would he/she be willing to move to one with 17-19% so easily? to start afresh? In Mmf the differences in rates aren't much. ±3% maximum (baring 1 or 2 outliers) so isn't enticing enough for such class of people. Compared to someone with 2M looking to use Mmf to build wealth. From 15%, The extra thousands on top of 17% is essential to him cuz of compounding effect. Finance is the goal, other logistics or services is secondary. |
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