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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:56am On Jan 02
Ibime:
You must be very fewlish invoking common sense while making the least sense possible.

Where are the promised savings? You are telling me the deficit would have been worse, when you have made it worse than what you inherited. So the people funding "gay frogs research" are better financial stewards than you?

It's not everything you chook your Comproboko mouth.
I don't know why you are making noise.

Common sense says if you add what they cut and programs they ended, the spending would have been worse than this. You can see the pattern of government spending yoy increases in a predictable margin.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:39am On Jan 02
benalvino3:
Mark Dice should not be used as a source. The guy and Tucker Carlson head no correct.
He is one among many who have talked about how CIA embedded itself in media to shape narrative.Mark Dice gets a lot of stuff spot on.

Tucker head is correct.He is on Qatar payroll ,he is their mouthpiece of late.
Candy Owens has too many loose nuts and bolts in her head.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:44am On Jan 02
Ibime:
Raumdeuter, do you care to point out the impact of DOGE on National spending, past the soundbites about Colombian bellydancers and gay Sri-Lankan frogs.
The US economy is designed to run deficits exponentially. DOGE is still cutting wasteful contracts but not enough to reduce the debt
If Kamala had won the debt would be much more.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:10am On Jan 02
basilico:
He is one among many who have talked about how CIA embedded itself in media to shape narrative.Mark Dice gets a lot of stuff spot on.

Tucker head is correct.He is on Qatar payroll ,he is their mouthpiece of late.
Candy Owens has too many loose nuts and bolts in her head.
He is a nut job. He is no different from Candace and Alex Jones. Think about it, the job of the CIA is to infiltrate, I can make theories and claims as well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:14am On Jan 02
benalvino3:
It seems like there is a firewall that is blocking you from getting what I have been saying.

If you are neither left nor right, you shouldn't be making excuses for the left.

Nicki Minaj has been getting praise from the right for speaking about the situation in Nigeria which is why she was invited by tpusa to speak. It is the leftists that are saying they are disappointed at her. Also, the person who started the polling is one of her leftist fans.
What is the name of the person that started the polling?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:14am On Jan 02
basilico:
The US economy is designed to run deficits exponentially. DOGE is still cutting wasteful contracts but not enough to reduce the debt
If Kamala had won the debt would be much more.
Allow Ibime to convince himself that the waste they cut and ended would not have added a dime to the chart he posted.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:21am On Jan 02
bayelsaowei:
What is the name of the person that started the polling?
What has it got to do with anything?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:49am On Jan 02
Hi
benalvino3:
He is a nut job. He is no different from Candace and Alex Jones. Think about it, the job of the CIA is to infiltrate, I can make theories and claims as well.
A broken clock is right twice a day.

The existence of extensive CIA activities involving the recruitment of journalists and manipulation of media content during the Cold War is a documented historical fact, confirmed by congressional investigations and declassified documents.
The specifics of these activities were revealed during the 1975 Church Committee hearings and a 1977 Rolling Stone exposé by Carl Bernstein
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:56am On Jan 02
I almost died laughing grin grin grin

He'll die this year

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:57am On Jan 02
basilico:
DOGE is still cutting wasteful contracts but not enough to reduce the debt
If Kamala had won the debt would be much more.
This proves you know absolutely nothing, mr copy and paste.
Doge that has been disbanded and non-functional for over 5 months, since last year.

And you talk like spittle coming from the side of your mouth, are you ok?
So how much will Kamala have ballooned the debt? Much more than the tyrant child predator now? Delulu man.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:19am On Jan 02
basilico:
The US economy is designed to run deficits exponentially. DOGE is still cutting wasteful contracts but not enough to reduce the debt
If Kamala had won the debt would be much more.
This is Government spending bozo, not deficit

You claim you are cutting waste yet spending is higher than the wasteful people you took over from.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kentebemoney: 9:28am On Jan 02
budaatum:
Is it better than those killed in Nigeria since 2006 that some are calling a genocide which averages out at about 10,560 a year?

Total Violent Deaths In Northern Nigeria (2006–2021): A 16-year analysis by Nigeria Watch recorded approximately 169,033 violent deaths nationwide, with northern states like Borno (41,692 deaths), Kaduna, and Zamfara being the most severely affected.
Don't mind all these leftist with their virtue signaling. Who dem dey whine?

And what about the total destruction of their habitat, it that better too?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:35am On Jan 02
Obrigardo:
This proves you know absolutely nothing, mr copy and paste.
Doge that has been disbanded and non-functional for over 5 months, since last year.

And you talk like spittle coming from the side of your mouth, are you ok?
So how much will Kamala have ballooned the debt? Much more than the tyrant child predator now? Delulu man.
It was disbanded and everyone fired? They just moved the staff to continue the same thing they was doing
Where is "Big Balls" (,the DOGE employee who had been attacked once in DC) today.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:00am On Jan 02
Ibime:
This is Government spending bozo, not deficit

You claim you are cutting waste yet spending is higher than the wasteful people you took over from.
There is mandatory spending that grows every year.
Obamacare spending , that was invented by St Jesus of Chicago is one of them.
You may also be aware that both houses always sneak in provisions when passing Continuing Resolutions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:02pm On Jan 02
Ibime:
Ramdeuter, do you care to point out the impact of DOGE on National spending, past the soundbites about Colombian bellydancers and gay Sri-Lankan frogs.
1. DOGE made cuts before it was stopped
2. Interest on the huge deficit contributed to the increase we saw at year end
3. Without those DOGE cuts we would have gone even way above the level we are seeing now
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:05pm On Jan 02
Ibime:
This is Government spending bozo, not deficit

You claim you are cutting waste yet spending is higher than the wasteful people you took over from.
What are the raw numbers at each year end, If we get that we can now see the reduction in percentage increase YOY
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:27pm On Jan 02
raumdeuter:
1. DOGE made cuts before it was stopped
2. Interest on the huge deficit contributed to the increase we saw at year end
3. Without those DOGE cuts we would have gone even way above the level we are seeing now
Allow oga Ibime to skip common sense. From his own chart he did not recognize the pattern.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:40pm On Jan 02
benalvino3:
Allow oga Ibime to skip common sense. From his own chart he did not recognize the pattern.
We all know what is going on

Spending has not grown at the rate it was going before Trump

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:43pm On Jan 02
benalvino3:
Allow oga Ibime to skip common sense. From his own chart he did not recognize the pattern.
That is why Trump is trying to force down interest rates to refinance the debt at a lower rate. Currently the US pays about 1 trillion in debt financing per year

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:00pm On Jan 02
raumdeuter:
We all know what is going on

Spending has not grown at the rate it was going before Trump
The dominance of mandatory entitlement programs like ss, Medicare, and Medicaid, that operates on autopilot with automatic increases and account for the majority of outlays, na congressional suppose remedy this action rather than executive cuts.

Interest payments as you said on the national debt also contribute significantly to persistent high spending levels.

This corresponds with the incremental pattern from previous years.

DOGE did what it could to reduce cost. But Ibime for some reason is arguing the cost would have not reduced or worse than this if DOGE did nothing about LGBTQ experiment on Afghanistan's bonobos
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:18pm On Jan 02
raumdeuter:
That is why Trump is trying to force down interest rates to refinance the debt at a lower rate.
Dump can not force down interest rates to refinance the debt at a lower rate! And I'm very concerned you don't know this even more than dump not knowing it!

Even if dump forces down the Fed Rate (by firing Powell and installing his stoogee), it will not lower interest rates on bonds that finance interest rates on US debt, and will in fact raise bond rates.

Thinking otherwise is like saying you can dictate to a lender the rate of interest at which you borrow.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:21pm On Jan 02
budaatum:
Dump can not force down interest rates to refinance the debt at a lower rate! And I'm very concerned you don't know this even more than dump not knowing it!

Even if dump forces down the Fed Rate (by firing Powell and installing his stoogee), it will not lower interest rates on bonds that finance interest rates on US debt, and will in fact raise bond rates.

Thinking otherwise is like saying you can dictate to a lender the rate of interest at which you borrow.
Forcing a recession brings down interest rate
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:27pm On Jan 02
raumdeuter:
Forcing a recession brings down interest rate
Yep. That is indeed an option. It will result in job loses and high unemployment, and will force the Fed to lower interest rates, but might not make lenders accept lower interest rates on bonds however.

But to be sincere, I'd need to see this to actually know if it might. And I wonder how that would make America great again.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:47pm On Jan 02
budaatum:
Yep. That is indeed an option. It will result in job loses and high unemployment, and will force the Fed to lower interest rates, but might not make lenders accept lower interest rates on bonds however.

But to be sincere, I'd need to see this to actually know if it might. And I wonder how that would make America great again.
Not paying 1 trillion a year in debt servicing is a way to make America great. Without anything being done we are on course to hit 2 trillion in interest per year payments alone is not making America great. That 1 trillion a year can do so many things to benefit the people
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:48pm On Jan 02
Go go Iran.
The university hamas supporters are not supporting your March for freedom but trump got your back.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:58pm On Jan 02
benalvino3:
Go go Iran.
The university hamas supporters are not supporting your March for freedom but trump got your back.
Is anyone on the left upset about people dying and being killed in Iran? Just like they didnt care when people are killed on Oct 7th
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:00pm On Jan 02
Obrigardo:
I almost died laughing grin grin grin

He'll die this year
Shame on you .

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 5:02pm On Jan 02
raumdeuter:
Is anyone on the left upset about people dying and being killed in Iran? Just like they didnt care when people are killed on Oct 7th
Nope, not the one who were rightly upset about end SARS shooting here too.

Maybe it's because Jews are not involved. No one is hating on Russia for all the atrocities they are causing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:07pm On Jan 02
benalvino3:
Go go Iran.
The university hamas supporters are not supporting your March for freedom but trump got your back.
Those Ayatollahs believe they have a divine right to lord over Iranians.
They are on the same league with Kim Jong Un if not worse.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 5:13pm On Jan 02
basilico:
Those Ayatollahs believe they have a divine right to lord over Iranians.
They are on the same league with Kim Jong Un if not worse.
They might start a war if they sense they are going to fall.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 5:21pm On Jan 02
raumdeuter:
That is why Trump is trying to force down interest rates to refinance the debt at a lower rate. Currently the US pays about 1 trillion in debt financing per year
Interest was $900bln in 2024, only $100bln different

DOGE said it saved $2trln

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