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Re: Mutual Funds by Jayce242: 3:57pm On Jan 01
EquityM:
If you have a domiciliary account, you can only pay in USD if you go with CardinalStone, so I recommend Norrenberger, as they can source USD for you in the naira rate. However, you can open a Sterling USD account online, but just stick with Norrenberger.
@bold are u saying one can pay to Norrenberger in naira & it will be converted to dollar? I thought they said payment must be through dollars?
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 4:06pm On Jan 01
You can pay in naira, and they will give you the equivalence in USD. Kindly reach out to Emmasoft, as he knows them better. FirstAlly has a dollar fund as well, and you can transfer in naira, and they will change it to USD right away, but the rate is disgusting. (2.8% today)

Jayce242:
@bold are u saying one can pay to Norrenberger in naira & it will be converted to dollar? I thought they said payment must be through dollars?
Re: Mutual Funds by Jayce242: 4:06pm On Jan 01
Donbrig:
This tax issue is gonna push Nigerians to the wall, I am worried of what is ahead of us..... Massive taxation of citizens is one of the conditions World-Bank, IMF often give our goverment before lending them money, we saw how it played out in Kenya. The issue is not the tax, but a govt mismanaged system that doesn't function...
The luck our leaders have is that Nigerians are very docile people & have made peace with their chains. The tax issue that led to the bloody demonstration in Kenya was not this bad. Barely 2 years subsidy was removed, our leaders no allow Nigerians breath, they introduced another tax. A considerate president would have at least waited for second term before introducing any form of tax. Considering the negative impact fuel subsidy removal had on Nigerians. After fuel subsidy removal, borrowing increased. Highest is 2027 they will bring another one after income tax. Our leaders have no conscience!
Re: Mutual Funds by Preator: 4:36pm On Jan 01
Jayce242:
The luck our leaders have is that Nigerians are very docile people & have made peace with their chains. The tax issue that led to the bloody demonstration in Kenya was not this bad. Barely 2 years subsidy was removed, our leaders no allow Nigerians breath, they introduced another tax. A considerate president would have at least waited for second term before introducing any form of tax. Considering the negative impact fuel subsidy removal had on Nigerians. After fuel subsidy removal, borrowing increased. Highest is 2027 they will bring another one after income tax. Our leaders have no conscience!
I dont really know what the furore around the new tax law is. The law is mostly targeted at the rich and comfortable. Almos lt every poor or struggling nigerian will either pay no tax or experience reduction in tax. If you are impacted by the tax law, it means you earn well by nigerian standard(circa 20m a year)

The electronic money transfer levy is not a new tax. They just shifted the burden from receiver to sender. So no vendor should ask you to add N50 to any transfer anymore since you will be paying

I knw there are some fears around the indirect taxes but even those do not impact the masses. Na all of una with millions in Capital and money market the guy is asking to pay more 😂
Re: Mutual Funds by preciouseze7: 5:15pm On Jan 01
Donbrig:
Norrenberger is the best when it comes to dollar mutual fund.
It seems the app has issues. I have tried inputting my details and it takes me back to 20%
Re: Mutual Funds by Preator: 5:43pm On Jan 01
Hmmm. Stanbic just dropped to 15.79. abeg, is any other person noticing drops in rate from other FMs?
Re: Mutual Funds by bassdow: 6:22pm On Jan 01
Jayce242:
@bold are u saying one can pay to Norrenberger in naira & it will be converted to dollar? I thought they said payment must be through dollars?
Norrenberger accepts Naira for Dollar
Re: Mutual Funds by Jayce242: 6:31pm On Jan 01
Preator:
I dont really know what the furore around the new tax law is. The law is mostly targeted at the rich and comfortable. Almos lt every poor nigerian will either pay no tax or experience reduction in tax. If you are impacted by the tax law, it means you earn well by nigerian standard(circa 20m a year)

The electronic money transfer levy is not a new tax. They just shifted the burden from receiver to sender. So no vendor should ask you to add N50 to any transfer anymore since you will be paying

I knw there are some fears around the indirect taxes but even those do not impact the masses. Na all of una with millions in Capital and money market the guy is asking to pay more 😂
A tax net that starts from an annual income of 800k is targeted at the rich & comfortable?? So why didn't they start from 20m?? Where are the CNG vehicles that govt promised to distribute immediately after fuel subsidy was removed? Is everybody not buying the fuel now? Like I said alot of Nigerians have made peace with their chains, so there is no point wasting time on nonsensse debate.
Re: Mutual Funds by Preator: 6:41pm On Jan 01
Jayce242:
A tax net that starts from an annual income of 800k is targeted at the rich & comfortable?? So why didn't they start from 20m?? Where are the CNG vehicles that govt promised to distribute immediately after fuel subsidy was removed? Is everybody not buying the fuel now? Like I said alot of Nigerians have made peace with their chains, so there is no point wasting time on nonsensse debate.
Everyone earning below circa 20m per annum will experience a reduction in tax payment compared to what they currently pay. If you pay less tax under the new law, then at least ur position is not worse off.

For the other things they promised, i dnt argue for or against. Its a Nigerian thing for our leaders to promise and fail. That has nothing to do with this tax reform though.

By the way my post was meant to be educative only not supporting or opposing the tax law.
Re: Mutual Funds by IamtheDef: 9:17pm On Jan 01
Are there risks initiating withdrawal for a large sum now, I want to move all my funds from Stanbic somewhere else but I'm trying to exercise caution, don't want trouble from nowhere
Re: Mutual Funds by Donbrig: 9:30pm On Jan 01
It is your hard-earned money, no risk withdrawing your money at all, even if it is over a billion naira.. If you are withdrawing huge fund, you might have to give Stanbic about 2 to 3 working days to process your redemption.

The way Stanbic MMF rates dey dance skelewu nowadays is very confusing...

Just port to other fund managers with higher interest rates at the moment, but don't close or withdraw everthing from your Stanbic MMF fund, because table might turn in their favour tomorrow...

IamtheDef:
Are there risks initiating withdrawal for a large sum now, I want to move all my funds from Stanbic somewhere else but I'm trying to exercise caution, don't want trouble from nowhere
Re: Mutual Funds by Oyibopepe2000: 11:31pm On Jan 01
Ok o😀 Thanks Predator


Preator:
No. The tax authority wont see it as an income.
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 2:17am On Jan 02
It's preferable to diversify and try out a new mutual fund as opposed to shifting money around, which could impede capital growth. Last week, I invested 10,000 naira in the CardinalStone Alpha income fund, and I received a dividend of more than 700+ naira from the capital gains of the fund on the 1st of Jan, which is different from my daily earnings. Soon, I'll top it off and see how it goes. One fund would undoubtedly increase if another were declining.

Re: Mutual Funds by temi4fash(m): 6:17am On Jan 02
EquityM:
Today, First Ally paid out its dividend. Already reinvested, no tax drama...
I have not been able access my investerapp for about 3 days now. Is it same with everyone?

Cc:emmasoft
Re: Mutual Funds by temi4fash(m): 6:20am On Jan 02
EquityM:
It's preferable to diversify and try out a new mutual fund as opposed to shifting money around, which could impede capital growth. Last week, I invested 10,000 naira in the CardinalStone Alpha income fund, and I received a dividend of more than 700+ naira from the capital gains of the fund on the 1st of Jan, which is different from my daily earnings. Soon, I'll top it off and see how it goes. One fund would undoubtedly increase if another were declining.
Which app is this please.

I want to be very intentional with my investing this year..
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 6:23am On Jan 02
You need strong wifi; sometimes my 5G does not allow me to log in to my Investar app. Try and clear the cache in the app, restart your phone, or find good WiFi and connect.

temi4fash:
I have not been able to access my investerapp for about 3 days now. Is it same with everyone?

Cc:emmasoft
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 6:38am On Jan 02
CardinalStone. The app is on the Play Store or Apple Store. "CS Alpha"
temi4fash:
Which app is this please.

I want to be very intentional with my investing this year..
Re: Mutual Funds by IamtheDef: 6:42am On Jan 02
Donbrig:
It is your hard-earned money, no risk withdrawing your money at all, even if it is over a billion naira.. If you are withdrawing huge fund, you might have to give Stanbic about 2 to 3 working days to process your redemption.

The way Stanbic MMF rates dey dance skelewu nowadays is very confusing...

Just port to other fund managers with higher interest rates at the moment, but don't close or withdraw everthing from your Stanbic MMF fund, because table might turn in their favour tomorrow...
Thank you sir, I'm just wary of falling victim to the taxman. Laws like this especially at infancy in a clime like ours tend to have so many shortcomings and it's people without influence who often bear the brunt before it's finally fine-tuned
Re: Mutual Funds by t33why: 6:58am On Jan 02
temi4fash:
I have not been able access my investerapp for about 3 days now. Is it same with everyone?

Cc:emmasoft
All good here for myinvestar, had this issue with my Norrenberger app and web, the day I was lucky enough to get into it, I withdrew all my funds
Re: Mutual Funds by Neurotika: 7:51am On Jan 02
Jayce242:
The luck our leaders have is that Nigerians are very docile people & have made peace with their chains. The tax issue that led to the bloody demonstration in Kenya was not this bad. Barely 2 years subsidy was removed, our leaders no allow Nigerians breath, they introduced another tax. A considerate president would have at least waited for second term before introducing any form of tax. Considering the negative impact fuel subsidy removal had on Nigerians. After fuel subsidy removal, borrowing increased. Highest is 2027 they will bring another one after income tax. Our leaders have no conscience!
Most people complaining about the tax law clearly haven’t read it, especially the provisions on personal income tax/PAYE. The arguments flying around are not just wrong, they reveal a worrying level of intellectual laziness.

If you are not seriously wealthy, and by that I mean earning above 200m annually, this law is not even your problem. There’s no significant difference in your tax payable below this income bracket.

For anyone below around 20m annually, your tax payable is even lower compared to the old law. This is not a matter of sentiment or politics. It is simple arithmetic. Apply the same income, factor in all statutory deductions, run the numbers under the old law and the new one, and compare the outcomes.

That is not to say the government should not be held accountable. There are real issues to challenge even under the new tax act. But those conversations only carry weight when they are grounded in facts. Otherwise, we are just making noise.

I watched a video yesterday by one DonAza, a popular YouTube analyst, and the analysis was frankly ridiculous…and It shows how distorted this conversation has become.

We need less outrage and more literacy. Read the law. Do the maths. Then talk.

Happy new year everyone.
Re: Mutual Funds by temi4fash(m): 8:11am On Jan 02
t33why:
All good here for myinvestar, had this issue with my Norrenberger app and web, the day I was lucky enough to get into it, I withdrew all my funds
Lool.
I use the web Norrenberger and it has not failed me before.

This issue with my myinvestar app is giving me concern.

3 days now no access immediately after I on-boarded and the customer care called me that day self..

Maybe I would reach out to them
Re: Mutual Funds by temi4fash(m): 8:12am On Jan 02
EquityM:
You need strong wifi; sometimes my 5G does not allow me to log in to my Investar app. Try and clear the cache in the app, restart your phone, or find good WiFi and connect.
Wawu.. Me no get power for all this kind thing..

EquityM:
CardinalStone. The app is on the Play Store or Apple Store. "CS Alpha"
Would try this today.

Thanks
Re: Mutual Funds by t33why: 8:27am On Jan 02
temi4fash:
Lool.
I use the web Norrenberger and it has not failed me before.

This issue with my myinvestar app is giving me concern.

3 days now no access immediately after I on-boarded and the customer care called me that day self..

Maybe I would reach out to them
That'd be your best bet, I thought of reaching out to Norrenberger too when the issues started but then I had just started using their platform less than 2weeks sef and all of a sudden no access on app and web. It was too early for that kind of stress
Re: Mutual Funds by Jayce242: 8:34am On Jan 02
Neurotika:
Most people complaining about the tax law clearly haven’t read it, especially the provisions on personal income tax/PAYE. The arguments flying around are not just wrong, they reveal a worrying level of intellectual laziness.

If you are not seriously wealthy, and by that I mean earning above 200m annually, this law is not even your problem. There’s no significant difference in your tax payable below this income bracket.

For anyone below around 20m annually, your tax payable is even lower compared to the old law. This is not a matter of sentiment or politics. It is simple arithmetic. Apply the same income, factor in all statutory deductions, run the numbers under the old law and the new one, and compare the outcomes.

That is not to say the government should not be held accountable. There are real issues to challenge even under the new tax act. But those conversations only carry weight when they are grounded in facts. Otherwise, we are just making noise.

I watched a video yesterday by one DonAza, a popular YouTube analyst, and the analysis was frankly ridiculous…and It shows how distorted this conversation has become.

We need less outrage and more literacy. Read the law. Do the maths. Then talk.

Happy new year everyone.
Regardless of whether it affects the rich or poor, government shouldn't be talking about tax in any form now! Is this government all about tax? It's been tax! tax! Countless banks deductions for one form of tax or another especially at night ever since this govt got into power & nothing has improved! These things we never experienced in previous govt. Borrowing has increased after subsidy was removed! You can't blame the people because we don't trust the govt. There is no transparency in this govt. Not after all the distortions & manipulations that have riddled this new tax law. Previous monies are never accounted for. Whatever affects the rich still find a way to get to the poor through inflation. Nigerians are angry!
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 8:56am On Jan 02
For every transaction I make from my UBA account, 150naira is deducted for credit and another 150 naira for debit alert. Thank God for Sterling Bank that does not charge for SMS alerts. Rob Peter, pay Judas' taxes. Shishi dey no go see for my hand.

Jayce242:
Regardless of whether it affects the rich or poor, government shouldn't be talking about tax in any form now! Is this government all about tax? It's been tax! tax! Countless bank deductions for one form of tax or another, especially at night ever since this govt got into power & nothing has improved! These things we never experienced in previous govt. Borrowing has increased after subsidy was removed! You can't blame the people because we don't trust the govt. There is no transparency in this govt. Not after all the distortions & manipulations that have riddled this new tax law. Previous monies are never accounted for. Whatever affects the rich still find a way to get to the poor through inflation. Nigerians are angry!
Re: Mutual Funds by Harddiskng(m): 10:01am On Jan 02
Preator:
I dont really know what the furore around the new tax law is. The law is mostly targeted at the rich and comfortable. Almos lt every poor or struggling nigerian will either pay no tax or experience reduction in tax. If you are impacted by the tax law, it means you earn well by nigerian standard(circa 20m a year)

The electronic money transfer levy is not a new tax. They just shifted the burden from receiver to sender. So no vendor should ask you to add N50 to any transfer anymore since you will be paying

I knw there are some fears around the indirect taxes but even those do not impact the masses. Na all of una with millions in Capital and money market the guy is asking to pay more 😂
This is why illiteracy is a threat to Nigeria.

The people that have no money, that the new tax law will favor are the ones making the most noise.
Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 10:53am On Jan 02
FirstAlly myinvestar paid their dividend yesterday wow investment is really sweet kiss
Re: Mutual Funds by Harddiskng(m): 10:54am On Jan 02
t33why:
All good here for myinvestar, had this issue with my Norrenberger app and web, the day I was lucky enough to get into it, I withdrew all my funds
Thank you for this review.

I am considering Norrenberger with all this Standard Chartered wahala.

Then again, to be fair reflecting on my experience with FBNQ App, your inability to login might have to do with your network. Before i always struggle to log-in it was later I realized if the network isn’t strong enough, it won’t log me in.
Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 11:19am On Jan 02
temi4fash:
I have not been able access my investerapp for about 3 days now. Is it same with everyone?

Cc:emmasoft
is opening well u are accessing it wrongly I guess



When u log into myinvestar app always input your email and password.

Click on the circled box it will take u to where u will input your email and password.

Re: Mutual Funds by Kabawhat: 12:03pm On Jan 02
Abegi house when is legacy fund (FCMB) PLANNING TO pay out its dividend. Abegi
Re: Mutual Funds by OwlaRowl: 12:12pm On Jan 02
Season Greetings good people,

I noticed my Cowrywise Q4 2025 earnings are yet to be reinvested.
(Specifically for Cowrywise and Trustbanc in Cowrywise).

On the other hand, my FSDH AM earnings were reinvested earlier today.

Does anyone have this same experience on cowrywise?
If yes, is this normal for a new financial year,
As my checks on cowrywise, for Q2 & Q3 show;

Q2 2025 returns reinvested at at 3:02 pm 1st July, 2025.
Q3 2025 earnings reinvested at 5:16 pm 1st Oct, 2025.
Re: Mutual Funds by Care4: 1:07pm On Jan 02
Donbrig:
I once invested in equity and I lost everything in few weeks, and swore never again... I felt so bad and was inspired to write a book on "The Iniquities Of Equity"


If your body nor full, abeg nor put body Ohh.
There is direct equity investment - trading shares/stocks; there are exchange traded funds (ETF) on the stocks exchange and also, the Equity Market Fund (EMF) in the capital market, know the difference.
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