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IronGalaxy:
i might have an error thinking of Quinton Fortune while typing this

the same Fortune that was a reknowned bench warmer for over 4 seasons at Man United?🤣

The only known players SA players are Mccathy and Radebe 🤣🤣🤣

Some African countries are holding past records without any meaningful progress and trophies
Last time Ghana won AFCON was 1982

charlesemeka85:
Which South African start games for Man United?

I think he is referring to Quinton Fortune

FiveFootNinja:
They are an overachieving side and it's thanks to Hugo Broos. Banana banana won't realize how special and insane their 2023 AFCON semi final run was until they get grouped or dropped in the Round of 16 again for the next 3 editions of the tournament.

Even when it comes to B-tier African footballing countries, I still rate Congo and Mali above them.

You just know its vibes and bias talking not reality.. Mali drew all their games in this tournament, we won 2.. and all of our games, not one we were dominated.. the Egypt game we lost, we played Egypt off the park, and we lost due to officiating errors.. also Mali plays eyesore football while we play more of expansive, attractive football

charlesemeka85:
the same Fortune that was a reknowned bench warmer for over 4 seasons at Man United?🤣

The only known players SA players are Mccathy and Radebe 🤣🤣🤣

Quick to laugh without even understanding my comment.. You guys are like little kids..

So Pienaar was wasnt a feature at Ajax and later at Everton, bossing the midfield with Arteta? Ok

IronGalaxy:
it doesnt work this way.. Radebe at Leeds was as much a revered figure as Kuffour was at Bayern.. so what the point here? Football is not popularity contest.. whether you think Ikpeba is "better" than Steven Pienaar it doesnt in any way make Pienaar less "world-class"..

Also, South Africans that are in the UK, some of them are there for various reasons, like studying, also many of them are white South Africans and white south africans arent Football inclined.. Using naturalized Africans to prove Football ability is a flawed argument.

South africans do have footballing ability.. this is not even up for discussion, underachieving doesnt change this fact..The national team of Spain were perennial underachievers up until around 2007-08.. despite having a good league and renowned teams like Madrid and Barca.. SA is where Spain was in their underachieving years.. lets nit forget you couldn't win the same group with SA in it for the world cup.. youre just reasoning out of the usual Nigerian bias against SA.

North Macedonia knocked Italy out of the Last WC qualifiers, they are no where near the level of Italy. Likewise Sweden who prevented them from going to the 2018 WC. Cape Verde did same to Cameroon, that doesnt place Cape verde ahead of Cameroon football wise. You SouthAfricans should get this into your heads that qualifying for WC in a group that has Nigeria doesnt really make you a top footballing nation in Africa. We all know who the top teams are, Angola did so as far back as 2006. I havent seen Angolans Claiming equals with Nigeria. Togo did same ahead of Senegal too, no where am I seeing togolese claiming they are bigger than Senegal in football. You played 7 of your 10 games at home, and had to take Nigeria to a potato farm to avoid defeat at home. And Nigerian football ws in crises througout the qualifiers. This 2026 WC will come and go, stop behaving like this is the only WC that has been played or will be played.

Lucas Radebe is no where near Sammy Kufour in world football. Steven Piernaar is several levels below Victor Ikpeba. I wonder why you southAfricans are so bad in assesing player quality.

The case of SouthAfrica is not that of Underachieving. Its clearly lack of quality talent. When you had Radebe, Bartlett, Mccarthy, Fish, Fortune, Nomvete etc most of whom played in Europe you always make the later stages of AFCON and qualify for WCs, and that was the level there talents can carry them at that time.
Ask any Nigerian, we are never afraid to play SA in any match compared to teams lke Ghana, Senegal, Ivorycoast etc

GanagiBitrus:
We never win R/16 & you are already talking of winning the Final.

Do you realise that if you check the Online Forums for various AFCON countries, some persons would have made exactly this same comment about Morocco, Senegal, Cameroon, Ivory Coast...

Every of these countries equally believe they can win AFCON.
So just relax & take one game at a time. No country is to be underrated.

so what should he say, china should win?

Nigeria and fake humility when it comes to sport, fans have one job, believe their team would win every time, it’s the players job to play, fans emotions have nothing to do with play on the field.

Danielnino00:
I think he is referring to Quinton Fortune

I know Fortune during his time at United but he was a bench warmer

Spainever:
" The last time they luckily eliminated Morocco"
This is false. The South African team is a good team ,they just need to be clinical and look for good strikers. Yesterday they created several chances in the first half.
No need be sentimental , if the SA team is not good when was the last time Nigeria defeat them ? (Not through penalties )

We have eliminated in the last 2 AFCONs we met them. They are just not good enough, i know what i am saying. Tanzania also created chances against Morocco yesterday, they couldnt score because thwy lack the quality. At crucial points quality will show thats what SA doesnt have.

IronGalaxy:
Take your bias aside. They were world class..

Lol. Radebe and McCarthy world class? You must be a joker.

charlesemeka85:
the same Fortune that was a reknowned bench warmer for over 4 seasons at Man United?🤣

The only known players SA players are Mccathy and Radebe 🤣🤣🤣

I also think Steve Pienaar was decent, if not world-class, in those days at Everton. The problem of SA is a lack of talent. If they are smarter, they should take advantage of the huge immigrant diversity in their country to beef up their national team football, like France, Belgium, the Netherlands, and, in recent years, countries like Canada and the US. I hope they drop their local champion mentality soon.

IronGalaxy:
Take your bias aside. They were world class..

Radebe and Benni world class?🤣🤣🤣🤣

IronGalaxy:
The mouths are so big for a team that couldnt win a World Cup qualifiers group that had the likes of Lesotho, Zim and a "pitiful" South Africa in it..

Dude, we literally gave you guys a two-year headstart on the World Cup qualifiers and we still came from 5th place and almost topped the group on the last day. Lack of preparation cost us the ticket. Look how things are now that our squad is settled and beginning to gel. We secured 9 points out of 9 - one of only two teams to achieve this feat in this year's AFCON. It’s cute that you remember the qualifiers sha. Nostalgia is all you have left now that Cameroon has sent you to the departure lounge.

charlesemeka85:
I know Fortune during his time at United but he was a bench warmer

Lol. I am a die hard Man United fan, i like Fortune but he was a bench option at best.

CapitalCee:
North Macedonia knocked Italy out of the Last WC qualifiers, they are no where near the level of Italy. Likewise Sweden who prevented them from going to the 2018 WC. Cape Verde did same to Cameroon, that doesnt place Cape verde ahead of Cameroon football wise. You SouthAfricans should get this into your heads that qualifying for WC in a group that has Nigeria doesnt really make you a top footballing nation in Africa. We all know who the top teams are, Angola did so as far back as 2006. I havent seen Angolans Claiming equals with Nigeria. Togo did same ahead of Senegal too, no where am I seeing togolese claiming they are bigger than Senegal in football. You played 7 of your 10 games at home, and had to take Nigeria to a potato farm to avoid defeat at home. And Nigerian football ws in crises througout the qualifiers. This 2026 WC will come and go, stop behaving like this is the only WC that has been played or will be played.

Lucas Radebe is no where near Sammy Kufour in world football. Steven Piernaar is several levels below Victor Ikpeba. I wonder why you southAfricans are so bad in assesing player quality.

The case of SouthAfrica is not that of Underachieving. Its clearly lack of quality talent. When you had Radebe, Bartlett, Mccarthy, Fish, Fortune, Nomvete etc most of whom played in Europe you always make the later stages of AFCON and qualify for WCs, and that was the level there talents can carry them at that time.
Ask any Nigerian, we are never afraid to play SA in any match compared to teams lke Ghana, Senegal, Ivorycoast etc

Nobody and I mean nobody said we're a top footballing nation.. youre so obsessed with humbling us that it dwarfs your understanding of arguments.

I'm refuting the notion that because we got knocked out of this tournament we therefore dont "know ball" and therefore we dont have talent.. how does a team with 0 talent get bronze in the last Afcon and beats Morrocco not once but twice then goes to have one of the longest unbeaten runs in world football.. a record we lost after the game against Egypt.

You're doing it yet again, just because you think ikpeba is "levels" above Pienaar doesnt make Pienaar less world class.. one player is always better than the next.. Van Dijk is not at Maldini's level but both these defenders are world- class..Lucas and Kuffour were world class, thats not only my opinion The Osihmen you love calling " world-class" is also levels below Eto'o and Drogba

Nigeria 4-1 Mozambique. Bookmark this post after the game

Goke7:
I also think Steve Pienaar was decent, if not world-class, in those days at Everton. The problem of SA is a lack of talent. If they are smarter, they should take advantage of the huge immigrant diversity in their country to beef up their national team football, like France, Belgium, the Netherlands, and, in recent years, countries like Canada and the US. I hope they drop their local champion mentality soon.

You must be a joker to think Steven Pienaar is a world class player.

IronGalaxy:
We beat you 2-0 in Nigeria in Afcon qualifiers in 2019.. and unless youre still living in the Okocha era.. you're not the prime Brazil team you think you are.

Never said we were prime Brazil. We're better than South Africa though.

charlesemeka85:
Radebe and Benni world class?🤣🤣🤣🤣

🤣🤣🤣🤣. No mind am, may be there is another definition of World class that I dont know

Odunayaw:
Ösimhen von Ijaya

😂

CapitalCee:
You must be a joker to think Steven Pienaar is a world class player.

🤣🤣🤣

FiveFootNinja:
Dude, we literally gave you guys a two-year headstart on the World Cup qualifiers and we still came from 5th place and almost topped the group on the last day. Lack of preparation cost us the ticket. Look how things are now that our squad is settled and beginning to gel. We secured 9 points out of 9 - one of only two teams to achieve this feat in this year's AFCON. It’s cute that you remember the qualifiers sha. Nostalgia is all you have left now that Cameroon has sent you to the departure lounge.

You almost topped that group not by defeating us but by having our points docked.. let it also be said, your group was darn easy.. lets see when you meet, Congo, Morocco, Algeria etc.

FiveFootNinja:
Dude, we literally gave you guys a two-year headstart on the World Cup qualifiers and we still came from 5th place and almost topped the group on the last day. Lack of preparation cost us the ticket. Look how things are now that our squad is settled and beginning to gel. We secured 9 points out of 9 - one of only two teams to achieve this feat in this year's AFCON. It’s cute that you remember the qualifiers sha. Nostalgia is all you have left now that Cameroon has sent you to the departure lounge.

Same Cameroon that couldnt qualify for WC don trashed them comot for AFCOn.

charlesemeka85:
🤣🤣🤣

okay

IronGalaxy:
You just know its vibes and bias talking not reality.. Mali drew all their games in this tournament, we won 2.. and all of our games, not one we were dominated.. the Egypt game we lost, we played Egypt off the park, and we lost due to officiating errors.. also Mali plays eyesore football while we play more of expansive, attractive football

When it comes to football in Africa, Mali has a better pedigree than South Africa. Last time I checked their senior men's team also have a better head to head record against you bozos.

FiveFootNinja:
When it comes to football in Africa, Mali has a far better pedigree than South Africa. Last time I checked their senior men's team also have a better head to head record against you bozos.

At what point do we talk form over pedigree.?

I love the way I'm following this AFCON. Zero expections. If we win, good. If we no win kwa, the ship keeps sailing.

By the way, that Durosimi move to Pisa, na yeye move oo. I expected better from him because nna gi na baller.

CapitalCee:
You must be a joker to think Steven Pienaar is a world class player.

You guys should take it easy, SA has produced huge talents in the past, yes, they are not plenty like Nigeria, but to say Steve Pienarr was not a great player is just bad belle, ask Yakubu Aiyegbeni, that was the guy feeding him assists in their days at Everton.

FiveFootNinja:
When it comes to football in Africa, Mali has a better pedigree than South Africa. Last time I checked their senior men's team also have a better head to head record against you bozos.

nah, SA has more pedegree in African footie than Mali

FiveFootNinja:
Never said we were prime Brazil. We're better South Africa though.

You couldnt beat us both legs though.. last Afcon it had to go to penalties. This current team is mid.

charlesemeka85:
nah, SA has more pedegree in African footie than Mali

Across the board that's not true. Mali's youth team are consistent performers. Also I think Mali have qualified for more AFCON tournaments in recent times. Plus they have a better head to head record. Mali have beat SA more times than SA have beat Mali. You can verify these things.

Goke7:
You guys should take it easy, SA has produced huge talents in the past, yes, they are not plenty like Nigeria, but to say Steve Pienarr was not a great player is just bad belle, ask Yakubu Aiyegbeni, that was the guy feeding him assists in their days at Everton.

Finally an impartial Nigerian..yaaaay!