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Antichristian2:
Can God die?

Yes Gods die, as history shows.

Humans just need to stop worshipping them and they die.

Antichristian2:
...Can God die?

Is your intention merely to attack the religious narrative offered by the Christians(you being a muslim), or are you asking generally because you think you understand the limitation that you believe should apply as far as every deity out there, including the muslim Allah? (Basically, are you suggesting that every deity out there ought to have the same limitation that the Allah of the Muslims has?🥱🥱

Are you somehow of the mind that because Allah of the muslims cannot take human form and hence die the human death, therefore Zeus of the Greeks should also not be able to take human form and die the human death? I would like to understand why you keep insisting that God(in your case, Allah) cannot die the human death; therefore, all other deities out there should also not be able to die the human death.

GOD CANNOT DIE OR DO NOT DIE SIMPLE.


You must understand the definition of death by human understanding and by God's understanding.

1. Separation of a man from God is death in God dictionary even if the man is still breathing and eating rice.
2. GOD is Spirit. Jesus is God by The Spirit who put on Flesh to be able to relate with this world. Jesus only dropped the flesh when he was crucified and not the dead of HIS IN-GOD SPIRIT.

It depends on the God you are talking about. In the Bible God revealed that there are many Gods who are lesser than Him:

God stands in the assembly of the gods. He stands as judge among the judges. Psalms 82:1

So whether they are humans or spirits as long as they serve as judges over other beings they will surely die {Psalms 82:6-7} the first human to be conferred with the title "God" is Moses a prophet of the true God {Exodus 7:1} and God revealed to him that another prophet will be raised like Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18} Peter a follower of Jesus said Jesus is that prophet who also served as God! Act 3:22 compare to Isaiah 9:6

Both Moses and Jesus died even though God raised Jesus back to life due to his faithfulness to the true God {Hebrews 5:7} but there is One who never died and will never ever die that is the Person Jesus referred to as the Only True God. John 17:3

Kobojunkie:
Is your intention merely to attack the religious narrative offered by the Christians(you being a muslim), or are you asking generally because you think you understand the limitation that you believe should apply as far as every deity out there, including the muslim Allah? (Basically, are you suggesting that every deity out there ought to have the same limitation that the Allah of the Muslims has?🥱🥱

Are you somehow of the mind that because Allah of the muslims cannot take human form and hence die the human death, therefore Zeus of the Greeks should also not be able to take human form and die the human death? I would like to understand why you keep insisting that God(in your case, Allah) cannot die the human death; therefore, all other deities out there should also not be able to die the human death.

You didn't address anything from the thread! You just attacked what's in your brain!

Antichristian2:
✓ You didn't address anything from the thread! You just attacked what's in your brain!

You mean your question, " Can God die?" Was not in the thread but in my head? 🥱🥱🥱

To address the issue, I had to first ascertain the identity of this "God's first in relation to your religion since you are Muslim and then maybe also consider whether this is not a case of you projecting the attributes of your Allah of the Muslims -- your particular with --- onto other deities like the Christian and maybe even the Greek gods. 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
You mean your question, " Can God die?" Was not in the thread but in my head? 🥱🥱🥱

To address the issue, I had to first ascertain the identity of this "God's first in relation to your religion since you are Muslim and then maybe also consider whether this is not a case of you projecting the attributes of your Allah of the Muslims -- your particular with --- onto other deities like the Christian and maybe even the Greek gods. 🥱🥱🥱

You are still addressing what is in your head! There's no Muslim/Islamic presence in the thread!

Antichristian2:
✓ You are still addressing what is in your head! There's no Muslim/Islamic presence in the thread!

Alright then. The Greek gods were known to take human form and experience human death as well in that form. So, the answer to your question is yes. 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
Alright then. The Greek gods were known to take human form and experience human death as well in that form. So, the answer to your question is yes. 🥱🥱🥱

I don't think the Greek gods (or any other small gods) were referenced anwhere in the OP! Can you be focused please?

Antichristian2:
✓ I don't think the Greek gods (or any other small gods) were referenced anwhere in the OP! Can you be focused please?

Well, you didn't provide us with a reference to where the deity in question unequivocally stated through any of his about 20 something prophets that he couldn't have a human form and go as far as to die a human death. So, the answer to your question is that it is not impossible for the deity in question to do so, even if it may be impossible for Allah of the Muslims. And I provided you with examples of other gods who have the ability to do exactly that. 🥱🥱🥱

Oh, I am quite focused since this subject I have been on and have come to realize how religion indeed traps individuals in self-made delusions in denial of even the facts right before their eyes. 🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
Well, you didn't provide us with a reference to where the deity in question unequivocally stated through any of his about 20 something prophets that he couldn't have a human form and go as far as to die a human death. So, the answer to your question is that it is not impossible for the deity in question to do so, even if it may be impossible for Allah of the Muslims. And I provided you with examples of other gods who have the ability to do exactly that. 🥱🥱🥱

Oh, I am quite focused since this subject I have been on and have come to realize how religion indeed traps individuals in self-made delusions in denial of even the facts right before their eyes. 🥱🥱

"Can God die" is not the same as "Can god die"!

Seems you've been waking up from the wrong side of the....

Antichristian2:
✓ "Can God die" is not the same as "Can god die"!
Seems you've been waking up from the wrong side of the....

Your God is someone else's god. 🥱🥱🥱

Seems more like denial remains a staple for you. 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
Your God is someone else's god. 🥱🥱🥱

Seems more like denial remains a staple for you. 🥱🥱🥱

All these are irrelevant to the thread!

tos4u:
GOD CANNOT DIE OR DO NOT DIE SIMPLE.


You must understand the definition of death by human understanding and by God's understanding.

1. Separation of a man from God is death in God dictionary even if the man is still breathing and eating rice.
2. GOD is Spirit. Jesus is God by The Spirit who put on Flesh to be able to relate with this world. Jesus only dropped the flesh when he was crucified and not the dead of HIS IN-GOD SPIRIT.

So you're telling us here that Jesus did not die? It was only the flesh that died?

Antichristian2:
➜All these are irrelevant to the thread!

If I asked you the question, "Can God die?" Your response may come back from your religion regarding your Allah, who is just a god to me. So, yes, this is actually quite relevant.

Kobojunkieee:
If I asked you the question, "Can God die?" Your response may come back from your religion regarding your Allah, who is just a god to me. So, yes, this is actually quite relevant.

Suit yourself junkieee!

Truthseeker10:
So you're telling us here that Jesus did not die? It was only the flesh that died?

Bodily Jesus died, but spiritually Jesus did not die

tos4u:
Bodily Jesus died, but spiritually Jesus did not die

Below is Luke 23:46.

New King James Version
And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last.

If Jesus only died bodily according to you, where did he go spiritually after dying according to the verse above?

Antichristian2:
"Can God die" is not the same as "Can god die"!

It does not matter how you try to cut your "God".

All Gods, including Yahweh and Allah will eventually die when humans start to learn more by reading more books, because you can't keep humans in ignorance in Eden forever.

That said, Christianity has shown it can evolve from fire and brimstone Yahweh to meek and gentle Jesus, so it might survive longer. If it had maintained an eye for an eye, Yahweh wouldn't have likely enjoyed its mass adoption in the West.

Below is the Qur'an saying those who read only one book will become extinct.

budaatum:
It does not matter how you try to cut your "God".

All Gods, including Yahweh and Allah will eventually die when humans start to learn more by reading more books, because you can't keep humans in ignorance in Eden forever.

By definition, God is eternal, limitless, All-powerful and All-knowing! If your God dies, becomes limited or not powerful then that's a false god!

That said, Christianity has shown it can evolve from fire and brimstone Yahweh to meek and gentle Jesus, so it might survive longer. If it had maintained an eye for an eye, Yahweh wouldn't have likely enjoyed its mass adoption in the West.

What you call evolution is actually pollution and corruption! The transformation of God to become man, from being unlimited to being limited, from being All-powerful to being powerless and from being All-knowing to being not All-knowing is simply against the definition of the capital God!

However, gods may fit in as we know of some gods who were previously simply humans and became gods after their death!

Below is the Qur'an saying those who read only one book will become extinct.

The Qur'an saying was actually ignorantly interpreted by you. Allah spoke about the vastness of His words if it were to be written down. If His words is so vaste then His majesty is more majestic!

Antichristian2:
By definition, God is eternal, limitless, All-powerful and All-knowing! If your God dies, becomes limited or not powerful then that's a false god!

"By definition" does not make Gods eternal. All those dead gods were also defined as "eternal, limitless, All-powerful and All-knowing" until they were abandoned and died.

Antichristian2:
What you call evolution is actually pollution and corruption!

It is sad you think this, and the consequence of your thinking is even sadder when you consider what you purchase from nations that include evolution in their babies milk.

Antichristian2:
However, gods may fit in as we know of some gods who were previously simply humans and became gods after their death!

Zeus and many other Gods were not considered human, yet they died when the eyes of their worshippers finally opened.

Antichristian2:
The Qur'an saying was actually ignorantly interpreted by you. Allah spoke about the vastness of His words if it were to be written down. If His words is so vaste then His majesty is more majestic!

It was not an interpretation but an understanding.

If the Words of Allah are vast, we humans must read many many books in search of them. Early Muslims understood this and taught Europe about European philosophers that Europeans had forgotten.