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Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Kukutente23: 2:36pm On Jan 10
MarketDispatch:
Nigeria does not deserve a tax man who's tax law is only to collect but no benefits to the citizenry. In saner climes, tax credits are given to children, tax credits are given to senior citizens, low income families etc .
You get time dey quote sycophant. Hear him say Nigerians will be exempt from tax as if the taxes on corporates will not be pushed to consumers indirectly
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Kukutente23: 2:38pm On Jan 10
MaKenz:
Only you make policy, only you understand the policy, even professional bodies misunderstand your policy. Na only you waka come?
This Oyedele is the Wike of tax
Fighting everybody
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Wickedtruths: 2:41pm On Jan 10
Oyedele lacks sense. Na why lawyers go put sense for him head.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Konquest: 2:42pm On Jan 10
Kukutente23:
Even you are spreading fake news
The threshold is 800k which translates to roughly less than 70k per month yet you claim those who earn 100k per month (1.2m per year) will be exempted from tax.
The govt would start by dealing with zombies
Don't put words in my mouth.

I stated CLEARLY that those who earn less than N100,000 monthly over there in Nigeria would be exempt from PAYE. That's NOT fake news but directly from the mouth of Taiwo Oyedele himself in his brilliant podcasts and media interviews I have gleaned online! This is a very important reform for those with open minds in Nigeria and in the Nigerian Diaspora who know the importance of paying taxes and the new Tax Reforms which have CLEARLY removed the burden of multiple taxations on the citizens. Period.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Lifestone(m): 2:43pm On Jan 10
DatNiggaDaz:
grin

This Olawale guy is a product of Oluwole certificate just like his employer. A stauch ally of a fake certificate holder crooked to the core, a strategist of Ojuelegba economics which has plunged the Nation into an economic disaster.

A fake certificate holder and his Lagos kitchen cabinet of questionable certificates holders must be disgraced out of their snatched mandate if the country is to experience any form of progress and development
So what have you said now. If you are sued now or arrested to justify what you've claimed, you will na content creation.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by creativejagaban: 2:45pm On Jan 10
DatNiggaDaz:
grin

This Olawale guy is a product of Oluwole certificate just like his employer. A stauch ally of a fake certificate holder crooked to the core, a strategist of Ojuelegba economics which has plunged the Nation into an economic disaster.

A fake certificate holder and his Lagos kitchen cabinet of questionable certificates holders must be disgraced out of their snatched mandate if the country is to experience any form of progress and development
Everything is not just about the desire to type rvbeesh.

Try and take some time to read and understand and analyze grin


Tinubu till 2031.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Lifestone(m): 2:46pm On Jan 10
Chidibe212:
Dem don dey open their nyash. Imagine KPMG calling your ojoro tax out
When I read KPMG report, I know immediately that it is full of lazy works. No detailed and more like a critique than exposition
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by DelilahMakinde(f): 2:47pm On Jan 10
I can summarize it tho

FG. and Oyedele want to debit 141 million Nigerians into poverty tongue
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by aribisala0(m): 2:49pm On Jan 10
DelilahMakinde:
I can summarize it tho

FG. and Oyedele want to debit 141 million Nigerians into poverty tongue
Federal Government does not tax individuals
All personal income tax goes to the State where you live
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by DelilahMakinde(f): 2:50pm On Jan 10
aribisala0:
Federal Government does not tax individuals
All personal income tax goes to the State where you live
Noted

But debit is inevitable.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by aribisala0(m): 2:51pm On Jan 10
DelilahMakinde:
Noted

But debit is inevitable.
What does that mean
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Blackdisciple(m): 2:52pm On Jan 10
This man will never answer questions directly, there's a hidden agenda in that so-called tax shit they don't want us to know..
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Kukutente23: 2:52pm On Jan 10
DeLaRue:
What a brilliant riposte.

KPMG were very unprofessional in their analysis, and are probably just bitter that the leader of PricewaterhouseCoopers Nigeria, Mr Taiwo Oyedele, was appointed to chair the Presidential Tax Committee.

For those not aware, there are 4 international auditing companies known globally as 'the big 4', i.e, the 4 largest audit companies in the world.

They are Deloitte, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Ernst & Young, and KPMG.

As an alumni of one these firms abroad myself, there was always mild rivalry. At times, 2 or more of the big 4 would chase the same client, and after several months of hard work, inevitably only one of the firms won the client's work. When my firm won, we celebrated (mildly) particularly if it was a big client. When we lose, the mood in the team was slightly down for a day or so, but we took any loss on the chin. Overall, it was a decent professional rivalry amongst the big 4. Nothing insidious.

All the big 4 firms have large offices in Nigeria. But trust Nigerians, what is mild professional competition abroad is being turned into an unprofessional, gutter, insidious open fight by KPMG.

There is no way in the world that KPMG Netherlands would openly write to criticise work done by another big 4 firm in the manner that KPMG Nigeria did, particularly as the write up is shoddy, unsubstantiated, and only targeted at discrediting Mr Oyedele, and indirectly, PricewaterhouseCoopers.

Very unprofessional of KPMG.
But he never disagreed with their observation. He claimed instead that the errors were either as a result of differing opinion on policy outcomes and/or clerical errors which he claimed were already detected and being corrected internally.
Let me ask you if you were aware of the concerns raised by KPMG before they raised. I'm sure the answer is No.
Let me ask why the tax laws is being implemented with the acknowledged errors and all. I'm sure you're dumbstruck now
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Kukutente23: 2:53pm On Jan 10
Konquest:
Don't put words in my mouth.

I stated CLEARLY that those who earn less than N100,000 monthly over there in Nigeria would be exempt from PAYE. That's NOT fake news but directly from the mouth of Taiwo Oyedele himself in his brilliant podcasts and media interviews I have gleaned online! This is a very important reform for those with open minds in Nigeria and in the Nigerian Diaspora who know the importance of paying taxes and the new Tax Reforms which have CLEARLY removed the burden of multiple taxations on the citizens. Period.
Is the threshold 1.2m or 800k? Find out yourself
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by DelilahMakinde(f): 2:54pm On Jan 10
aribisala0:
What does that mean
It means that where the money is going or wherever we think it's going is secondary.

The primary thing is that you will still be taxed under a policy where even professional finance consultants are just as confused as the general public.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Wickedtruths: 2:58pm On Jan 10
DeLaRue:
What a brilliant riposte.

KPMG were very unprofessional in their analysis, and are probably just bitter that the leader of PricewaterhouseCoopers Nigeria, Mr Taiwo Oyedele, was appointed to chair the Presidential Tax Committee.

For those not aware, there are 4 international accounting/auditing companies known globally as 'the big 4', i.e, the 4 largest auditing companies in the world.

They are Deloitte, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Ernst & Young, and KPMG. KPMG is the smallest of the 4.

As an alumni of one these firms abroad myself, there was always mild rivalry. At times, 2 or more of the big 4 would chase the same client, and after several months of hard work, inevitably only one of the firms won the client's work. When my firm won, we celebrated (mildly) particularly if it was a big client. When we lose, the mood in the team was slightly down for a day or so, but we took any loss on the chin. Overall, it was a decent professional rivalry amongst the big 4. Nothing insidious.

All the big 4 firms have large offices in Nigeria. But trust Nigerians, what is mild professional competition abroad is being turned into an unprofessional, gutter, malicious, and insidious open fight by KPMG.

There is no way in the world that KPMG Netherlands would openly write to criticise work done by another big 4 firm on a highly political topic, in the manner that KPMG Nigeria did, particularly as the write up was shoddy, misleading, and only targeted at discrediting Mr Oyedele, and indirectly, PricewaterhouseCoopers.

Very unprofessional of KPMG.
You can keep deceiving yourself.
The NBA, Nigeria's body of lawyers criticised the nonsense Oyedele has been doing.
Are they also in rivalry with him?
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by aribisala0(m): 2:58pm On Jan 10
DelilahMakinde:
It means that where the money is going or wherever we think it's going is secondary.

The primary thing is that you will still be taxed under a policy where even professional finance consultants are just as confused as the general public.
You made a claim
It is false
That matters
You lied
That matters
Are you not supposed to be taxed
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by DelilahMakinde(f): 3:04pm On Jan 10
aribisala0:
You made a claim
It is false
That matters
You lied
That matters
Are you not supposed to be taxed
If you want to force tax down our throats under your confusing terms and conditions, then go ahead Mr Oyedele.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Dee60: 3:05pm On Jan 10
Taiwo Oyedele is brilliant and has supervised a brilliant policy but he should remember what happens in the multitude of words. He should stay with policy making and not become the spokesperson of politicians. He should remember that whenpoliticians say 9am, they are probably referring to 9pm! You dont have to respond to all questions and you should avoid being the only one talking. Let the government defend themselves.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by DoTheNeedful: 3:07pm On Jan 10
DeLaRue:
What a brilliant riposte.

KPMG were very unprofessional in their analysis, and are probably just bitter that the leader of PricewaterhouseCoopers Nigeria, Mr Taiwo Oyedele, was appointed to chair the Presidential Tax Committee.

For those not aware, there are 4 international accounting/auditing companies known globally as 'the big 4', i.e, the 4 largest auditing companies in the world.

They are Deloitte, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Ernst & Young, and KPMG. KPMG is the smallest of the 4.

As an alumni of one these firms abroad myself, there was always mild rivalry. At times, 2 or more of the big 4 would chase the same client, and after several months of hard work, inevitably only one of the firms won the client's work. When my firm won, we celebrated (mildly) particularly if it was a big client. When we lose, the mood in the team was slightly down for a day or so, but we took any loss on the chin. Overall, it was a decent professional rivalry amongst the big 4. Nothing insidious.

All the big 4 firms have large offices in Nigeria. But trust Nigerians, what is mild professional competition abroad is being turned into an unprofessional, gutter, malicious, and insidious open fight by KPMG.

There is no way in the world that KPMG Netherlands would openly write to criticise work done by another big 4 firm on a highly political matter as the tax law is, in the manner that KPMG Nigeria did, particularly as the write up was shoddy, misleading, and probably targeted at discrediting Mr Oyedele, and indirectly, PricewaterhouseCoopers.

Very unprofessional of KPMG. Probably explains why they remain the smallest of the big 4.
Thank you. I wanted to write something identical to yours.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by adexpa(m): 3:09pm On Jan 10
Firstly, nobody likes a tax man.
Secondly, laws get improved over certain periods of application.
We just have to allow the law flow and then keep modifying
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by aribisala0(m): 3:10pm On Jan 10
DelilahMakinde:
If you want to force tax down our throats under your confusing terms and conditions, then go ahead Mr Oyedele.
That is childish and emotional
You are immature

I corrected a false claim
Tax goes to the State Government not the federal government as you falsely claimed
Admit you lied

I have not expressed an opinion on the law
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by aribisala0(m): 3:12pm On Jan 10
Kukutente23:
This Oyedele is the Wike of tax
Fighting everybody
You are everywhere talking nonsense without evidence
NoEvidenceMan
Who did he fight here
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by DelilahMakinde(f): 3:16pm On Jan 10
aribisala0:
That is childish and emotional
You are immature

I corrected a false claim
Tax goes to the State Government not the federal government as you falsely claimed
And I will reiterate, the destination of the funds is important but secondary.

Why is your tax policy leaving everyone scratching their heads. How many versions are out there ?
And which versions do you want implemented ?

I'm asking as a concerned citizen.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by DeLaRue:
Kukutente23:
But he never disagreed with their observation. He claimed instead that the errors were either as a result of differing opinion on policy outcomes and/or clerical errors which he claimed were already detected and being corrected internally.
Let me ask you if you were aware of the concerns raised by KPMG before they raised. I'm sure the answer is No.
Let me ask why the tax laws is being implemented with the acknowledged errors and all. I'm sure you're dumbstruck now
'Let me ask why the tax laws is being implemented with the acknowledged errors and all'.

But Mr Oyedele's riposte clarified that what KPMG called errors are not errors, but intentional elements aimed at driving specific policies. And even if there are minor errors here and there in a set of tax laws covering several hundred pages, does it make sense to not implement such a gigantic set of laws because of minor errors which the National assembly can go back and correct within a few months if they deem it necessary? Also, if the laws contained serious errors or omissions, why has the National Assembly which passed the laws not asked for the tax laws to be suspended. Is it that you know more than them?

And what do you mean by 'and all'? What are the so-called 'and all' that are so many you couldn't mention them. Of course, the reason you couldn't mention any 'and all' is because there aren't any 'and all'.

You have clearly being misled by social media, and opposition politicians who are intent on turning this into a political football for their own selfish gains. Have you asked any of the opposition parties if they will abolish the new tax law, and bring back the old tax law? Of course they will not because they know the new tax law is the right thing to do and it will benefit the whole country in the long run.

Even in the US, UK, and European countries, you can find minor typographical errors in published laws, even though it is quite rare. But those countries will not suspend the enforcement of those laws because of minor typos.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Bmaster(m): 3:33pm On Jan 10
Putindbutt:
Mr Oyedele, Nigeria does not deserve you.

The likes of KPMG and other armchair economists predicted increase in inflation, declined GDP growth, weaker naira value, etc in 2025 but at the end of 2025, they were all disappointed.

I can't understand why wailers and Bitter Obidients who are majorly economic illiterates with little understanding of the tax laws. Most of them fall into the category of poor Nigerians which the tax reforms is aimed at protecting. Yet these average wailers are the ones crying the most on the behalf of the rich and wealthy who will be paying more.

They go about spreading misinformation about the tax law that some traders are starting to increase their prices even when no VAT are paid on food items or utilities. How can you deliberately be wicked to yourselves because of hate.

If you asked them to point out ONE new tax or increase in tax the new tax law has introduced, these wailers and Bitter Obidients would not be able to point out ANY. Yet they're crying over what will benefit the poor.

All this campaign and tears of yours will never win you elections. As you failed in 2023, you will fail again in 2027.
a very fantastic and interesting long epistle full of gibberish,.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by tete7000(m): 3:34pm On Jan 10
At the end of the day, Nigerian politicians will steal all the money and leave the citizens impoverished. The tax reform is to make more money available for looting. They should reform the criminal laws too to ensure corrupt politicians are sent to the gallows.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by OnionBandit(f): 3:38pm On Jan 10
helinues:
Mr Tax man, all the new tax law are not perfect, take note from the flops people are pointing out
No tax law is perfect and that's why you have amendments almost every year.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by PHIPEX(m): 3:58pm On Jan 10
Putindbutt:
Mr Oyedele, Nigeria does not deserve you.

The likes of KPMG and other armchair economists predicted increase in inflation, declined GDP growth, weaker naira value, etc in 2025 but at the end of 2025, they were all disappointed.

I can't understand why wailers and Bitter Obidients who are majorly economic illiterates with little understanding of the tax laws. Most of them fall into the category of poor Nigerians which the tax reforms is aimed at protecting. Yet these average wailers are the ones crying the most on the behalf of the rich and wealthy who will be paying more.

They go about spreading misinformation about the tax law that some traders are starting to increase their prices even when no VAT are paid on food items or utilities. How can you deliberately be wicked to yourselves because of hate.

If you asked them to point out ONE new tax or increase in tax the new tax law has introduced, these wailers and Bitter Obidients would not be able to point out ANY. Yet they're crying over what will benefit the poor.

All this campaign and tears of yours will never win you elections. As you failed in 2023, you will fail again in 2027.
Hmmm, Obidients are poor but Sai Baba and Emilokan chanters are the rich. Legends of the shameless
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Kukutente23: 4:01pm On Jan 10
DeLaRue:
'Let me ask why the tax laws is being implemented with the acknowledged errors and all'.

But Mr Oyedele's riposte clarified that what KPMG called errors are not errors, buy intentional elements aimed at driving specific policies. And even if there are minor errors here and there in a set of tax laws covering several hundred pages, does it make sense to not implement such a gigantic set of laws because of minor errors which the National assembly can go back and correct within a few months if they deem it necessary? Also, how come the National Assembly which passed the laws have not asked for the tax laws to be suspended. Is it that you know more than them?

And what do you mean by 'and all'? What are the so-called 'and all' that are so many you couldn't mention them. Of course, the reason you couldn't mention any 'and all' is because there aren't any so-called 'and all'.

You have clearly being misled by social media, and opposition politicians who are intent on turning this into a political football for their own selfish gains. Have you asked any of the opposition parties if they will abolish the new tax law, and bring back the old tax law? Of course they will not because they know the new tax law is the right thing to do and it will benefit the whole country in the long run.

Even in the US, UK, and European countries, you can find minor typographical errors in published laws, even though it is quite rare. But those countries did not suspend the enforcement of those laws because of minor typos.
It is sad that BATists usually reduce every subject of public discourse to politics and who is supporting who instead of alerting their minds to the meat of the matter and better enrich their intellectual depth or at least disagree on points and principles if any.
KPMG is not a political organization. I have not expressed any opinion other than what KPMG offered in their professional capacity. You have turned it to political brickbat.
At an individual level, these two points raised by KPMG should interest any sane mind about the individual tax aspect of the law which concerns everybody

1. Overburdening the wealthiest among us which may lead to capital flight and job loss

2.Reduction in relief ratio for rent and other deductibles from previous rates which suggest that the new law will make more of the income taxable
Oyedele did not respond to these either. You didn't seem aware of these points as well. Your preoccupation was "and all". The above two form part of the and all.
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by aribisala0(m): 4:05pm On Jan 10
DelilahMakinde:
And I will reiterate, the destination of the funds is important but secondary.

Why is your tax policy leaving everyone scratching their heads. How many versions are out there ?
And which versions do you want implemented ?

I'm asking as a concerned citizen.
I Don disagree that it I secondary to you
But you lied
Lying is not excusable because you have a genuine grievance

It discredist you and your argument

Argue with truth


This issue of number of versions is new that was not what we are talking about
Let us first establish that you lied
Then you retract your lie
And apologise


I cannot engage with unrepentant liars

How are you different from what you are criticising if you too are a liar
Re: New Tax Laws: 'You Misunderstood The Policy Intent' - Oyedele replies KPMG by Yankee101: 4:08pm On Jan 10
Prices are already going up
You messed up the roll out of subsidy removal
Youโ€™re messing up by introducing these tax regimes at this time
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