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Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 8:56pm On Jan 10
CardinalStone and Quantum Zenith. I made some crazy gains sometimes. It all depends on the daily rate; however, the rate is unstable, unlike MMF. If you are patient, you will make a lot more from it.

Alaska90:
Which fixed income are you investing in now?
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 8:58pm On Jan 10
Bro, I'll wire you something if I get a dividend.

Beeron:
Mr EquityM no go let them rest, you must preach this equity gospel.

Fire on pastor, Tell them lol 😂
Re: Mutual Funds by Beeron: 9:02pm On Jan 10
EquityM:
Bro, I'll wire you something if I get a dividend.
Tithe and offering lol

I actually invest in Equity too and I have been getting those gains too sir.
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 9:04pm On Jan 10
Offering to invest more, bro. Glad you are, bro. Let's beat inflation.

Beeron:
Tithe and offering lol

I actually invest in Equity too and I have been getting those gains too sir.
Re: Mutual Funds by emmasoft(m): 9:10pm On Jan 10
THE PLACE OF INVESTMENT OBJECTIVE IN INVESTING

The importance of having a clear investment objective before setting out to invest cannot be overemphasized.

From questions and discussions here, it is evident that many people venture into investments without a
well-defined objective. This often leads to confusion, unnecessary risk, and poor decisions.

Why is an Investment Objective Important?

Guides your choice of investment instruments
With a clear objective, you know exactly what to invest in and are less likely to follow hype or the crowd.

Determines your investment duration
Your objective helps you decide how long to stay in an investment—short, medium, or long term.

Helps define acceptable returns
It determines the rate of return you are comfortable with and the kind of advice you should seek.

Guides entry and exit decisions
Your objective helps you know when to move in, scale up, hold on, or exit an investment window.

Works hand-in-hand with risk tolerance
Apart from risk tolerance, your objective is one of the most important factors in investment decisions.
With the right objective, you understand:

- The level of risk you can tolerate

- The reason for choosing a particular operator or product

- Why you should look beyond just interest rates and take a holistic view of the investment

Determines fund management structure
Your objective will guide you on how many fund managers to engage and how to diversify your investments.

In many cases, your investment objective ultimately determines your investment choices and your returns.

I strongly advise everyone here to clearly define their investment objective, ie, the reason for investing.
It will guide you every step of the way.

Please note: MMF and investments in general are not ends in themselves; they are means to an end.
We invest for a purpose.

Happy investing.

Making money without tears is our goal!
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 9:11pm On Jan 10
The little dip you see comes from market sluggishness and my top-up. I advise you to top up once a month to avoid system backlog and a few glitches.

bassdow:
you ought be asking to see evidence and history, not this one you saying

Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 9:43pm On Jan 10
MMF slow and steady wins the race

😂😂😂😂✌🏾
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 9:51pm On Jan 10
We're going to make money either slowly or quickly.

Creditalerts:
MMF slow and steady wins the race

😂😂😂😂✌🏾
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody:
Retro9090:
Stanbic MMF at 15.63% is not encouraging at all. I currently have 176M naira in it. I am contemplating moving to a different asset manager.
You mean you can sleep and eat all day and still outearn someone that battles with traffic and wakes 5am each day of the month without lifting a finger grin
Congrats and keep pushing. If you can, keep topping up every month and you will reach billionaire status in a few years.

Also, stay put and ignore daily rates here. Most of the fund managers end up with around same YTD December performance.

This is just me but personally i wouldn’t risk such an amount with a Fund Manager that’s being around for just 5 years versus one that’s been around for 30 + years although folks here seem to think the risk is all same as long as they are all SEC regulated.

Some of these guys dont update daily gains till after a while. Makes you wonder if theirs is MMF or MMM like bassdow said grin
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 5:09am On Jan 11
Except for comfort, a smart rich man and a foolish poor man will eventually converge in terms of lifestyle. If the smart rich man wants to be healthy and live long to enjoy his wealth, he will have to say NO to most things he can afford e.g food, women, a hedonistic lifestyle etc whereas the poor guy dosent even have to deal with such temptations because he simply cant afford them (blessing in disguise)

Meditations of a wandering mind at 5:10am Nigerian time
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 6:46am On Jan 11
Stanbic won't treat him as a VIP investor; Norrenberger and CardinalStone have VIP investors with 100m as minimum capital. He will make thrice the money he's currently making. Once I reach 100m, I will upgrade to the VIP section of CardinalStone.

Iamblessed88:
You mean you can sleep and eat all day and still outearn someone that battles with traffic and wakes 5am each day of the month without lifting a finger grin
Congrats and keep pushing. If you can, keep topping up every month and you will reach billionaire status in a few years.

Also, stay put and ignore daily rates here. Most of the fund managers end up with around same YTD December performance.

This is just me but personally i wouldn’t risk such an amount with a Fund Manager that’s being around for just 5 years versus one that’s been around for 30 + years although folks here seem to think the risk is all same as long as they are all SEC regulated.

Some of these guys dont update daily gains till after a while. Makes you wonder if theirs is MMF or MMM like bassdow said grin
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 7:11am On Jan 11
EquityM:
Stanbic won't treat him as a VIP investor; Norrenberger and CardinalStone have VIP investors with 100m as minimum capital. He will make thrice the money he's currently making. Once I reach 100m, I will upgrade to the VIP section of CardinalStone.
What are the benefits of VIP section of cardinal stone?
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 7:36am On Jan 11
Your capital will be diversified. Bond, equity, MMF, treasury bills, and other investments.

Iamblessed88:
What are the benefits of VIP section of cardinal stone?
Re: Mutual Funds by Harddiskng(m): 7:59am On Jan 11
Retro9090:
Stanbic MMF at 15.63% is not encouraging at all. I currently have 176M naira in it. I am contemplating moving to a different asset manager.
.

Move to a well vetted competitor.

At that amount like someone rightfully said, you would be a VIP with likes of CardinalStone. Why should you stay for even 1% less interest (which is a lot with your kind of capital) and still have to deal with operational inefficiencies and no zero value add or status that should with having such a capital.

At that amount, if you tell your operator “Jump”; the only question they should ask you is “how high?”; right now Stanbic doesn’t know you exist talk less of hearing you speak. Iike i said even 1% difference is a lot, I’d advice you move. Stanbic is getting too mediocre in every aspect.
Re: Mutual Funds by Harddiskng(m): 8:15am On Jan 11
EquityM:
The little dip you see comes from market sluggishness and my top-up. I advise you to top up once a month to avoid system backlog and a few glitches.
This is your Equity Mutual Fund with CardinalStone, yeah?

What is the total percentage gain on your entire portfolio currently (%)? Any month it beats the percentage gain on my portfolio (I’m trading stocks by myself), I will open an account.
Re: Mutual Funds by Creditalerts: 8:16am On Jan 11
Harddiskng:
.

Move to a well vetted competitor.

At that amount like someone rightfully said, you would be a VIP with likes of CardinalStone. Why should you stay for even 1% less interest (which is a lot with your kind of capital) and still have to deal with operational inefficiencies and no zero value add or status that should with having such a capital.

At that amount, if you tell your operator “Jump”; the only question they should ask you is “how high?”; right now Stanbic doesn’t know you exist talk less of hearing you speak. Iike i said even 1% difference is a lot, I’d advice you move. Stanbic is getting too mediocre in every aspect.
exactly my thought, I think he is a lazy investor to me every percent count he don't know what he is loosing 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Mutual Funds by Preator: 8:34am On Jan 11
Retro9090:
Stanbic MMF at 15.63% is not encouraging at all. I currently have 176M naira in it. I am contemplating moving to a different asset manager.
A capitalist must always squeeze out the highest return from every resource available. To do otherwise is illogical. I stayed with stanbic same way for a while until i computed what i was loosing with the differentials.

I moved to cowrywise last week after moving the funds in bits and losing some daily returns in the process due to bank's transfer limit.

But those loses are recovered. ( I placed a staggered withdrawal in 50m tranches) GT allows 25m max a day.

Once the money drops, i move 25m immediately, then wait till 12.01am and move another 25m. Note that the second 25 also earns a return by 6am same day on Cowrywise.

Trustbanc offers me 19.62 today. Its not static but it has been consistently 3% above stanbic. I do have some funds left in stanbic, but the bulk of my funds are working to the fullest.

If u want to move, place withdrawals (50m each) on monday, wednesday and friday. They should drop by next monday, Wednesday and friday latest. Do the same day and midnite move to ensure u dnt lose returns. Its slow, it's time consuming, it's laborious but money comes from labour.

See screenshot below. Stanbic is 15.63 today, TB is 19.62. i have assumed 18.63 sim if the rate difference stays at just 3%. Even if TB goes low, there are other options on Cowrywise u can move to monthly. People will say its stress, but that's how money is made.

Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 8:39am On Jan 11
I only started investing heavily last year in December.
Harddiskng:
This is your Equity Mutual Fund with CardinalStone, yeah?

What is the total percentage gain on your entire portfolio currently (%)? Any month it beats the percentage gain on my portfolio (I’m trading stocks by myself), I will open an account.

Re: Mutual Funds by Harddiskng(m): 8:43am On Jan 11
EquityM:
I only started investing heavily last year in December.
That’s fine. I re-booted my stock trading around October last year too.

We will monitor it together.

Creditalerts:
exactly my thought, I think he is a lazy investor to me every percent count he don't know what he is loosing 🤣🤣🤣
Lool Brother even 0.5% difference is not a joke talk less of a wide marginal difference.

If i were him, i would have 3-4 accounts with reputable operators. The highest performers gets the fund. The remaining go hold 50k till they perform better grin

When no be juju Stanbic use tie me down.
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 9:05am On Jan 11
TrustBanc proved me wrong; I'm currently investing with them directly. They do send me my statement portfolio every Sunday.

Preator:
A capitalist must always squeeze out the highest return from every resource available. To do otherwise is illogical. I stayed with stanbic same way for a while until i computed what i was loosing with the differentials.

I moved to cowrywise last week after moving the funds in bits and losing some daily returns in the process due to bank's transfer limit.

But those loses are recovered. ( I placed a staggered withdrawal in 50m tranches) GT allows 25m max a day.

Once the money drops, i move 25m immediately, then wait till 12.01am and move another 25m. Note that the second 25 also earns a return by 6am same day on Cowrywise.

Trustbanc offers me 19.62 today. Its not static but it has been consistently 3% above stanbic. I do have some funds left in stanbic, but the bulk of my funds are working to the fullest.

If u want to move, place withdrawals (50m each) on monday, wednesday and friday. They should drop by next monday, Wednesday and friday latest. Do the same day and midnite move to ensure u dnt lose returns. Its slow, it's time consuming, it's laborious but money comes from labour.

See screenshot below. Stanbic is 15.63 today, TB is 19.62. i have assumed 18.63 sim if the rate difference stays at just 3%. Even if TB goes low, there are other options on Cowrywise u can move to monthly. People will say its stress, but that's how money is made.
Re: Mutual Funds by Preator: 9:24am On Jan 11
EquityM:
TrustBanc proved me wrong; I'm currently investing with them directly. They do send me my statement portfolio every Sunday.
Positively or negatively?

I do them via cowrywise though.
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 9:46am On Jan 11
In a positive way. Same-day withdrawal and efficient customer care service.

Preator:
Positively or negatively?

I do them via cowrywise though.
Re: Mutual Funds by Larash: 9:56am On Jan 11
emmasoft:
THE PLACE OF INVESTMENT OBJECTIVE IN INVESTING

The importance of having a clear investment objective before setting out to invest cannot be overemphasized.

From questions and discussions here, it is evident that many people venture into investments without a
well-defined objective. This often leads to @emmasoft happy new year please are you still using same number end with 94 ? onfusion, unnecessary risk, and poor decisions.

Why is an Investment Objective Important?

Guides your choice of investment instruments
With a clear objective, you know exactly what to invest in and are less likely to follow hype or the crowd.

Determines your investment duration
Your objective helps you decide how long to stay in an investment—short, medium, or long term.

Helps define acceptable returns
It determines the rate of return you are comfortable with and the kind of advice you should seek.

Guides entry and exit decisions
Your objective helps you know when to move in, scale up, hold on, or exit an investment window.

Works hand-in-hand with risk tolerance
Apart from risk tolerance, your objective is one of the most important factors in investment decisions.
With the right objective, you understand:

- The level of risk you can tolerate

- The reason for choosing a particular operator or product

- Why you should look beyond just interest rates and take a holistic view of the investment

Determines fund management structure
Your objective will guide you on how many fund managers to engage and how to diversify your investments.

In many cases, your investment objective ultimately determines your investment choices and your returns.

I strongly advise everyone here to clearly define their investment objective, ie, the reason for investing.
It will guide you every step of the way.

Please note: MMF and investments in general are not ends in themselves; they are means to an end.
We invest for a purpose.

Happy investing.

Making money without tears is our goal!
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 10:12am On Jan 11
EquityM:
TrustBanc proved me wrong; I'm currently investing with them directly. They do send me my statement portfolio every Sunday.
Do they have an app you can monitor daily returns?
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 10:13am On Jan 11
Preator:
A capitalist must always squeeze out the highest return from every resource available. To do otherwise is illogical. I stayed with stanbic same way for a while until i computed what i was loosing with the differentials.

I moved to cowrywise last week after moving the funds in bits and losing some daily returns in the process due to bank's transfer limit.

But those loses are recovered. ( I placed a staggered withdrawal in 50m tranches) GT allows 25m max a day.

Once the money drops, i move 25m immediately, then wait till 12.01am and move another 25m. Note that the second 25 also earns a return by 6am same day on Cowrywise.

Trustbanc offers me 19.62 today. Its not static but it has been consistently 3% above stanbic. I do have some funds left in stanbic, but the bulk of my funds are working to the fullest.

If u want to move, place withdrawals (50m each) on monday, wednesday and friday. They should drop by next monday, Wednesday and friday latest. Do the same day and midnite move to ensure u dnt lose returns. Its slow, it's time consuming, it's laborious but money comes from labour.

See screenshot below. Stanbic is 15.63 today, TB is 19.62. i have assumed 18.63 sim if the rate difference stays at just 3%. Even if TB goes low, there are other options on Cowrywise u can move to monthly. People will say its stress, but that's how money is made.
Which app did you use for this comparison?
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 10:40am On Jan 11
They do have it; unfortunately, I can't register, as OTP will be forwarded to my Nigerian number. They do, however, update their daily rate on LinkedIn.

Iamblessed88:
Do they have an app you can monitor daily returns?

Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 10:42am On Jan 11
EquityM:
They do have it; unfortunately, I can't register, as OTP will be forwarded to my Nigerian number. They do, however, update their daily rate on LinkedIn.
Thanks
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 10:43am On Jan 11
Bro, you be ChatGPT 4.0.
Iamblessed88:
Which app did you use for this comparison?
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 11:21am On Jan 11
EquityM:
Bro, you be ChatGPT 4.0.
grin grin
Re: Mutual Funds by Nobody: 11:23am On Jan 11
Well chatgpt had this to say

Re: Mutual Funds by milliondollarma: 11:27am On Jan 11
Please how do one confirm the current rate on norrenberger app before going ahead to invest?.

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