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Baba Ladoja was a former governor and senator, before becoming olubadan. You can't take such personality as a stooge. You reap what you sow.

.. but at the same time, Baba should've just accepted the handshake. Agbalagba kin se langbalangba.

You guys are taking this serious. Like you all wanted a brutal confrontation. I don't see this as intentional.

Alaafin supposed to have stand before stretching his hand for a shake with the Olubadan. The Olubadan is right to snub the Alaafin of Oyo so as to teach him common etiquette.

Iwin2:
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Some of you just type whatever you like and you are only giving publicity to your ignorance Oduduwa, the Yoruba deity, had just *one biological son* named Okanbi (also called Omonide). Okanbi fathered *seven children*, considered Oduduwa's grandchildren, who founded various kingdoms:
- *Olowu of Owu*
- *Onisbe of Sabe*
- *Onipopo of Popo*
- *Oba of Benin*
- *Orangun of Ila*
- *Alaketu of Ketu*
- *Alafin of Oyo
Where is Oni there

Oga,
May be ONI Of Ife-DROPPED FROM HEAVEN,Mr Historian.
Tell us more about Yoruba history,so we go de learn from you.
How Oni- Smuggles himself to the Zoner Leader,
We Now Knows As the real Yorubaland - Father.
Please,we want to buy your History Book!

King pass King, you cannot compare an ex-governor to a former Yahoo boy from Canada

But why him no standup to greet am properly when he see the olubadan coming to take his seat.

If to say him standup greet am now, all this problem for no happen

In Yorubaland, age commands respect before the position one holds. The former Alaafin of Oyo was very old, and there was no Yoruba monarch as old as him at the time, was the real reason for the respect he received. The new monarch expected the same level of respect and was therefore disappointed.

Iwin2:
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Some of you just type whatever you like and you are only giving publicity to your ignorance Oduduwa, the Yoruba deity, had just *one biological son* named Okanbi (also called Omonide). Okanbi fathered *seven children*, considered Oduduwa's grandchildren, who founded various kingdoms:
- *Olowu of Owu*
- *Onisbe of Sabe*
- *Onipopo of Popo*
- *Oba of Benin*
- *Orangun of Ila*
- *Alaketu of Ketu*
- *Alafin of Oyo
Where is Oni there

Are you now saying all the Oonirisa are not descendants of Oduduwa?

The Alafin of oyo is somewhat too full of himself, greeting someone who's old enough to be your uncle or father while sitting and stretching forth your hand to shake him. That's too condescending. Olubadan is a core Yoruba man that upholds culture. Alaafin can not be older than Olubadan's first child. I guess he deserves something better than just a handshake from him.

success1smyn:
E get as e be o.

Alaafin own too much abeg

What is Alaafin's own here? That he did not stand up to greet a fellow first class traditional ruler? The joke is on Olubadan. Whatever he was in the past is immaterial. We are looking at just the stools.

Black folks and petty shyte

E no go spoil for Olubadan🙌.Konibaje for Baba Wa Olubadan of Ibadan land🙌. That Alafin of Oyo deserve the disgrace...... E sweet me reach my stomach. E go dey pain am for this one. Dem dey call am KNOCKOUT🤣🤣

Bluntemperor:
Ma'am, honestly,I don't understand them,but all na for Selfish reasons.
They Were Appointed To Bring Greatness to Oyo and Ibadan but keep doing the Opposite.
Is this how to go to the Moon 🌙?
How many Industrial Development have these Obas- brought to the South West - for the •Youths and the MASSES - to benefits, EXCEPT -The Oni of Ife- who have been Involved in So Many Philanthropic Development - home and Abroad.
•The late Awujale - despite being very Rich, from Youthful Ages- always looking for how the IJEBUS Can Be Great- never at loggerhead with anyone and was Standing Firmly when Other Obas and Emirs - Were Watching Abacha Video Clips,in Abuja then - he told the Whole World 🌎 that it was a Big Fat Lie 🤥.
Some of these Obas- Are So Arrogant -For Nothing - because they used Money to get to the Throne!
Shameful indeed!

Not just the Obas. Most of them are like that...
I know of one in the community where I grew up. Guy won't even recommend you for any job... empowerment too far.. Abeg make I no talk.

Yoruba people with their childish behavior, see the way their kings are disgracing themselves in public space

What happens when politicians appoint kings!

Yankiss:
What is Alaafin's own here? That he did not stand up to greet a fellow first class traditional ruler? The joke is on Olubadan. Whatever he was in the past is immaterial. We are looking at just the stools.

I know. I wanted to blame the Olubadan but I know who the alaafin is that's why I wrote that.

It's a sign of disrespect to Olubadan,someone over 80+ and the around is 40s to first wanted to shake hands, this young obas should learn to respect elders, in everything in life oba Rashidi Ladoja supersede alafia,it's good olubadan did that for him,kole mo agba lagba.

See all of them commenting up and down on Obas who are playing games but little interest in finding solution to real issues within their society.

Olasquare4real:
It's a sign of disrespect to Olubadan,someone over 80+ and the around is 40s to first wanted to shake hands, this young obas should learn to respect elders, in everything in life oba Rashidi Ladoja supersede alafia,it's good olubadan did that for him,kole mo agba lagba.

You are totally ignorant of Yoruba culture when it comes to a king with real crown. Age is no longer relevant when you get installed and there are several traditional Yoruba sayings, incantations and songs to that effect.

Iwin2:
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Some of you just type whatever you like and you are only giving publicity to your ignorance Oduduwa, the Yoruba deity, had just *one biological son* named Okanbi (also called Omonide). Okanbi fathered *seven children*, considered Oduduwa's grandchildren, who founded various kingdoms:
- *Olowu of Owu*
- *Onisbe of Sabe*
- *Onipopo of Popo*
- *Oba of Benin*
- *Orangun of Ila*
- *Alaketu of Ketu*
- *Alafin of Oyo
Where is Oni there

There is no single son of Okanbi called ''Alaafin''.
Stop typing rubbish if you dont know the history of Oduduwa and Okanbi.

Okanbi also gave birth to Oranmiyan (one of his children) who later founded Benin Kingdom, and from there he went to establish Oyo kindgom and became ''Alaafin'' of Oyo.
The same Oranmiyan abandoned his throne in Oyo and returned to rule Ile-Ife as the 6th Ooni of Ife. He died and was buried in Ile-Ife.
This singular act of Oranmiyan shows that the Ooni of Ife and Oba of Benin are both superior to the Alaafin of Oyo.
Oranmiyan also gave birth to sons who later became Ooni of Ife.

Iwin2:
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Some of you just type whatever you like and you are only giving publicity to your ignorance Oduduwa, the Yoruba deity, had just *one biological son* named Okanbi (also called Omonide). Okanbi fathered *seven children*, considered Oduduwa's grandchildren, who founded various kingdoms:
- *Olowu of Owu*
- *Onisbe of Sabe*
- *Onipopo of Popo*
- *Oba of Benin*
- *Orangun of Ila*
- *Alaketu of Ketu*
- *Alafin of Oyo
Where is Oni there

Se Yoruba ni e sha? You ask where is Ooni there.

The first Ooni (King) of Ife, considered the ancestral home of the Yoruba people, was Oduduwa, a divine figure in Yoruba mythology who is revered as the progenitor of the Yoruba dynasties and established Ile-Ife as the sacred center. He brought civilization and became the first crowned ruler, with his descendants forming the basis of Yorubaland's royal lineages.

The seven dynasties you listed were established by his grandsons. Ooni could not have been one of them because that is Oduduwa's seat/title.

All subsequent Ooni's are successors of Oduduwa.

Britishcoins:
But if you watch the video very well, you will see the olubadan did not see that handshake... Beside this new olubadan that just got colonized, he is still learning... media will always watch the dark side... Alafin of Oyo is very humble guy, pls note I am pure Igbo guy from Enugu... I don't give Bleep abt them oo, just my observation

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This current Alaafin is humble? Don’t worry, we will soon humble him, even you wey be Omo Ibo go cry for am

From your version, Oranmiyan is Alaafin and and Oranmiyan is Ooni but which of Okanbi's children was the Ooni while Oranmiyan was away?

mikeapollo:
There is no single son of Okanbi called ''Alaafin''.
Stop typing rubbish if you dont know the history of Oduduwa and Okanbi.

Okanbi also gave birth to Oranmiyan (one of his children) who later founded Benin Kingdom, and from there he went to establish Oyo kindgom and became ''Alaafin'' of Oyo.
The same Oranmiyan abandoned his throne in Oyo and returned to rule Ile-Ife as the 6th Ooni of Ife. He died and was buried in Ile-Ife.
Oranmiyan also gave birth to sons who later became Ooni of Ife.

Yorubas have too many kings/chiefs. And many of them are on selfish interests. No development or empowerment through them, just empty encomiums and exaggerations from their subjects (they still see as slaves)..

These two chiefs (alaffin and olubadan) are playing childish games while real, serious issues are neglected...

9jaBloke:
Se Yoruba ni e sha? You ask where is Ooni there.

The first Ooni (King) of Ife, considered the ancestral home of the Yoruba people, was Oduduwa, a divine figure in Yoruba mythology who is revered as the progenitor of the Yoruba dynasties and established Ile-Ife as the sacred center. He brought civilization and became the first crowned ruler, with his descendants forming the basis of Yorubaland's royal lineages.

The seven dynasties you listed were established by his grandsons. Ooni could not have been one of them because that is Oduduwa's seat/title.

All subsequent Ooni's are successors of Oduduwa.

Oduduwa died at a point, which of his children became the Ooni? Any name? Or the later Oonis were not of Oduduwa's lineage?

unitysheart:
Normally, shey dem dey do handshake before western tradition came into the country?

Maybe Olubadan was expecting another gesture.

Alaafin has no respect! There is seniority by age and seniority by position… the Olubadan is at least 20 years older than Alaafin… he sat there and stretched out his hand! He got what he deserved!

Amalekki:
From your version, Oranmiyan is Alaafin and and Oranmiyan is Ooni but which of Okanbi's children was the Ooni while Oranmiyan was away?

That is no longer important because Oranmiyan himself abandoned the Oyo throne (inferior) and came back to Ife to occupy the Ife throne (superior) as the 6th Ooni of Ife; and he was buried in Ile-Ife.
The staff and shrine of Oranmiyan (who founded both Benin and Oyo) can only be found in Ile-Ife! What does that tell you?
It is only those who are ignorant that would be comparing the throne of Ooni with Alaafin. Even the Oba of Benin is superior and senior to Alaafin in heirachy

Amalekki:
Oduduwa died at a point, which of his children became the Ooni? Any name? Or the later Oonis were not of Oduduwa's lineage?

History has it that Okanbi probably died early. Obalufon 1, a key figure in the early Ife empire succeeded Oduduwa. He wasn't his biological son.

Eventually, Oduduwa's biological grandson Oranmiyan returned to Ife and became Ooni.

I like your narration from the beginning, youre right. The Ooni of Ife it different. When Okanbi died non of his sons were not around to installed as king and they have been govern their kingdom. And Okanbi has a son that one slave born for him. He's Ooni Isha son of the slave. Oyo is the first son of Okanbi. Shikena

Iwin2:
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Some of you just type whatever you like and you are only giving publicity to your ignorance Oduduwa, the Yoruba deity, had just *one biological son* named Okanbi (also called Omonide). Okanbi fathered *seven children*, considered Oduduwa's grandchildren, who founded various kingdoms:
- *Olowu of Owu*
- *Onisbe of Sabe*
- *Onipopo of Popo*
- *Oba of Benin*
- *Orangun of Ila*
- *Alaketu of Ketu*
- *Alafin of Oyo
Where is Oni there

I am Igbo so I won't claim to be an expert in Yoruba history. But from the little history I know should the alaffin of oyo not be the highest stool in Yoruba land? I know of the great oyo empire that stretched far and wide. I have never heard of ife empire or Ibadan empire. I believe that Ibadan was under the control of the alaffin so olubadan naturally should be a subject of the alaffin. If this was the 16th century the olubadan would be beheaded for this disrespect. The alaffin was a god king like Xerxes of persia

Forumobserver12:
I don't know why there's increase in rivalry among the Oba's lately, I hope they realized that their subjects are looking up to them...

What about them is worth looking up to, if I may ask?

FashionCookie:
Na wa. Power tussle or what?
Gone are the days people looked up to Royalty with awe.
Now, it's almost a joke.
Politics is not helping too.

Kabiyesi Ladọja is older than his father. He should consider that