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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:37pm On Jan 12
lexyman:
i am not saying he was wrong ...My point is simple: Finidi does not have the authority to make that claim, because he has not done the right things to support it.

Saying “formation doesn’t matter” is incomplete and misleading. Formation may not be everything, but it is still a critical part of the game. You cannot dismiss it casually—especially when you lack measurable success to back up such a position.

Authority in football discussions comes from results, proven tactical work, and consistent success. Without these, opinions remain just that—opinions..... what i am saying is that , that claim too heavy for him to speak about . until he gets to that height in his career .
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola insists that formations “are nothing more than phone numbers”.

The implication is that his players move from their positions so much that the stated formation they start in does not in fact matter. The players are so rarely in that shape that there is barely any need to name the formation.

The point is simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 7:41pm On Jan 12
TheGoodJoe:
REPOST
Finidi is 100% right in that statement. Tuchel repeated the same thing. I watched a recent interview of Oliver Glasner, coach of Crystal Palace and he said the same thing.

You can't try Finidi's exposure working with Coach Monday Sinclair, Van Gaal, Louis Aragounes. Sometimes people should learn.
i thought you had mentioned Guardiola or Van Gaal, Mr defender of the universe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:44pm On Jan 12
zicky:
i thought you had mentioned Guardiola or Van Gaal, Mr defender of the universe
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola insists that formations “are nothing more than phone numbers”.

The implication is that his players move from their positions so much that the stated formation they start in does not in fact matter. The players are so rarely in that shape that there is barely any need to name the formation.

If Tuchel and Glasner are too small for you.

Finidi is 100% right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:47pm On Jan 12
Top scorers in Africa Cup of Nations semi-finals since 2000:

- 🇪🇬 Amr Zaki 3 goals
- 🇨🇲 Patrick Mboma 2 goals
- 🇨🇲 Salomon Olembé 2 goals
- 🇳🇬 Tijjani Babangida 2 goals
- 🇨🇮 Gervinho 2 goals
- 🇧🇫 Aristide Bancé 2 goals
- 🇲🇦 Youssef Mokhtari 2 goals
- 🇬🇭 Mubarak Wakaso 2 goals
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 7:50pm On Jan 12
elyte89:
I knew dis match would be our easiest …I envisaged it would even be easier Dan d Mozambique 🇲🇿 match ,mind u ,Algeria is good o but the present style of play of eagles Dey make opponents useless
Our next coming game will go eida way …anybody who wins d fixture is lifting the trophy 🏆…it’s a final before final 50/50 chance
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lexyman(m): 7:53pm On Jan 12
TheGoodJoe:
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola insists that formations “are nothing more than phone numbers”.

The implication is that his players move from their positions so much that the stated formation they start in does not in fact matter. The players are so rarely in that shape that there is barely any need to name the formation.

The point is simple.
thank you ... you said Manchester city coach ...Coaches like Guardiola, Mourinho, Zidane, Ancelotti, and others at that level can make statements like that—and be taken seriously.

Why? Because their ideas are backed by measurable success: trophies, tactical evolution, and consistent results at the highest level.

Not a coach like Finidi.

Without tangible achievements to support such claims, saying “formation doesn’t matter” is simply too heavy. Formation may not be everything, but dismissing it requires authority earned through success.

In football, credibility comes from what you’ve done, not just what you say.

That statement carries weight only when it comes from those who have proven they understand the game at its highest level.
please understand my point , maybe i am too Old Skool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:53pm On Jan 12
Players with the most appearances in AFCON semi-finals:

5- 🇬🇭 André Ayew
5- 🇳🇬 Rashidi Yekini
4- 🇬🇭 Emmanuel Badu
4- 🇩🇿 Lakhdar Belloumi
4- 🇬🇭 John Boye
4- 🇪🇬 Essam El Hadary
4- 🇳🇬 Vincent Enyeama
4- 🇳🇬 George Finidi
4- 🇬🇭 Asamoah Gyan
4- 🇪🇬 Ahmed Hassan
4- 🇳🇬 Nwankwo Kanu
4- 🇲🇱 Seydou Keita
4- 🇨🇲 Emmanuel Kundé
4- 🇩🇿 Rabah Madjer
4- 🇳🇬 Augustine Okocha
4- 🇨🇮 Yaya Touré
4- 🇳🇬 Joseph Yobo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 7:54pm On Jan 12
Amedino99:
might be superstition but every player we try to compare kanu in their first match with us always seem to inherit his low goals trait . Onuachu, simmy, tolu. Might be superstition but that has been my observation.
But refuse to inherit his high assist trait nor technicality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:54pm On Jan 12
TheSuperNerd:
Real Madrid sacks Xabi Alonso. Woah.

Alvaro Arbeloa takes over.

The Repeated El Classico defeat bites.
See something.

Mbappe is a problem.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 7:54pm On Jan 12
TheGoodJoe:
Good riddance. Glad for Xabi Alonso. He needs a more organized club with a structured approach.

Wish him the best. He is an exceptional manager.
Chelsea or Man Utd?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 7:55pm On Jan 12
elyte89:
This man fit go , to coach in a World Cup tournament is juicy enough
World cup and more money.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 7:56pm On Jan 12
TheGoodJoe:
Amuneke remains my top pick but I won't run down Finidi. With time we would have had a brilliant team with him. I have no shred of doubt.

Sometimes good things require patience.
There's nothing that will wash him from the terrible job he did. Doing that in wcq again? No pr or whitewashing will be convincing cos we've NEVER extended such privileges to previous saboteurs. We roasted Oliseh for s terrible job but na Finidi we go kon pat rub? No be SE he go use do redemption. Let him do redemption elsewhere and convince us he is indeed different. undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 7:57pm On Jan 12
TheSuperNerd:
I disagreed with "ALL" and gave the exceptions to your ALL. It was not difficult to understand.
No lele. cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 7:57pm On Jan 12
Kog45:
Abegi forget Ejuke
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by owbabs: 7:58pm On Jan 12
What if Eric Chelle leaves for Tunisia after AFCON and then the FIFA verdict favors Nigeria over Congo?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:59pm On Jan 12
lexyman:
thank you ... you said Manchester city coach ...Coaches like Guardiola, Mourinho, Zidane, Ancelotti, and others at that level can make statements like that—and be taken seriously.

Why? Because their ideas are backed by measurable success: trophies, tactical evolution, and consistent results at the highest level.

Not a coach like Finidi.

Without tangible achievements to support such claims, saying “formation doesn’t matter” is simply too heavy. Formation may not be everything, but dismissing it requires authority earned through success.

In football, credibility comes from what you’ve done, not just what you say.

That statement carries weight only when it comes from those who have proven they understand the game at its highest level.
please understand my point , maybe i am too Old Skool
Simple. Finidi was right. Many criticized because it came from a Nigerian. If Guardiola or Mourinho said it, many will accept but a Nigerian? No way.

Forgetting his CV. He was rated at one time the best winger in the world. Worked with some of the best managers in the game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:59pm On Jan 12
owbabs:
What if Eric Chelle leaves for Tunisia after AFCON and then the FIFA verdict favors Nigeria over Congo?
Samson Siasia takes over. He deserves it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:01pm On Jan 12
daveP:
There's nothing that will wash him from the terrible job he did. Doing that in wcq again? No pr or whitewashing will be convincing cos we've NEVER extended such privileges to previous saboteurs. We roasted Oliseh for s terrible job but na Finidi we go kon pat rub? No be SE he go use do redemption. Let him do redemption elsewhere and convince us he is indeed different. undecided
Arteta was so poor with Arsenal that the board almost sacked him. It took Guardiola shouting that he was doing a good job that snapped them back to their senses.

As I said before. The process is more important than immediate results. Unfortunately, most are not patient.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:01pm On Jan 12
TheSuperNerd:
Updated news: Rudy says Agreement is finalised ooo


BascoVanVeli come and see. From the NPFL with Akwa Utd to AS Trencin, Slovakia to U20 WC to RB Leipzig (Bundesliga). Huge winter transfer for a top Naija talent.
SkySports Germany corroborates... on Sani Suleiman to Leipzig.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:03pm On Jan 12
AndSunGorilla:
Chelsea or Man Utd?
Chelsea already has Rosenior. I don't think they can get someone like Xabi Alonso to bend to the stuff rules of Chelsea board. It is now a place for young managers.

I don't think a Liverpool legend will coach Manchester United. Not possible to me.

I think he will wait for the Liverpool job.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 8:04pm On Jan 12
TheGoodJoe:
Samson Siasia takes over. He deserves it.
Wetin do me wey Dey queue 🙄
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:05pm On Jan 12
TheGoodJoe:
Arteta was so poor with Arsenal that the board almost sacked him. It took Guardiola shouting that he was doing a good job that snapped them back to their senses.

As I said before. The process is more important than immediate results. Unfortunately, most are not patient.
Habaaaaaa!!! shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:05pm On Jan 12
People and unnecessary distractions. You have an important match in front of you but you are more bothered about contract talks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:06pm On Jan 12
daveP:
Habaaaaaa!!! shocked
Yep.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:08pm On Jan 12
daveP:
Habaaaaaa!!! shocked
I said Yep.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:09pm On Jan 12
elyte89:
Wetin do me wey Dey queue 🙄
Lack of Experience.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:10pm On Jan 12
TheGoodJoe:
I said Yep.
this is not substantial pls
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:13pm On Jan 12
daveP:
this is not substantial pls
You just cracked me up. It is general knowledge.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lexyman(m): 8:17pm On Jan 12
TheGoodJoe:
Arteta was so poor with Arsenal that the board almost sacked him. It took Guardiola shouting that he was doing a good job that snapped them back to their senses.

As I said before. The process is more important than immediate results. Unfortunately, most are not patient.
No doubt, he was once rated as one of the best wingers in the world—but that does not automatically make him one of the best coaches in the world. And this has nothing to do with the criticism coming from a Nigerian.
Please point me to his world-class achievements as a coach—maybe I’m missing something. The only thing that would make me respect such a bold statement from him is if he had successfully coached a world-class club, or taken a national team to win something tangible, or at least delivered a truly significant result.

Gone are the days when words carried weight simply because of who was speaking. These days, everyone just wants to make a point. But he hasn’t done the work to back up such claims. His tenure actually set the Super Eagles back, and the situation we found ourselves in today was largely a result of his errors and poor approach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:19pm On Jan 12
TheSuperNerd:
I dont know if anyone here has watched this Osimhen clip (caught it as a Youtube "Short" clip).

Victor Osimhen Post-AlgeriaGame ahead of Morocco Semis.

Listen to his reference to one of Chelle's thoughts again:
📽🎥https://youtube.com/shorts/qUToeTc8fX0?si=2nZx9mNjoPyxKCaj



Meanwhile.... ahead of Wednesday's Giants Battle. I stumbled on this via Amazon Prime Video Sport. It is nostalgic but it captures one thing: "Nigeria's Mental Might before a Big Game"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L5qu45hZBk?si=GN5MtHBfoWVQDvR_
I'm so so emotional watching this short documentary again.... Nigeria as a country is a blessed with a lot of potential one day we will attain those potential and it will be pronounced to the whole world by the special grace of God.

Go super eagle to the final! Go super eagle to the trophy !
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:20pm On Jan 12
lexyman:
No doubt, he was once rated as one of the best wingers in the world—but that does not automatically make him one of the best coaches in the world. And this has nothing to do with the criticism coming from a Nigerian.
Please point me to his world-class achievements as a coach—maybe I’m missing something. The only thing that would make me respect such a bold statement from him is if he had successfully coached a world-class club, or taken a national team to win something tangible, or at least delivered a truly significant result.

Gone are the days when words carried weight simply because of who was speaking. These days, everyone just wants to make a point. But he hasn’t done the work to back up such claims. His tenure actually set the Super Eagles back, and the situation we found ourselves in today was largely a result of his errors and poor approach.
After the long story, the fact is that Finidi was right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:20pm On Jan 12
TheSuperNerd:
I dont know if anyone here has watched this Osimhen clip (caught it as a Youtube "Short" clip).

Victor Osimhen Post-AlgeriaGame ahead of Morocco Semis.

Listen to his reference to one of Chelle's thoughts again:
📽🎥https://youtube.com/shorts/qUToeTc8fX0?si=2nZx9mNjoPyxKCaj



Meanwhile.... ahead of Wednesday's Giants Battle. I stumbled on this via Amazon Prime Video Sport. It is nostalgic but it captures one thing: "Nigeria's Mental Might before a Big Game"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L5qu45hZBk?si=GN5MtHBfoWVQDvR_
Is it the if you don't run you don't play quote by victor?
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