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Antichristian2:
Jesus Christ lived on earth for approximately 33 years, with about three years dedicated to his public ministry. The religion founded on his teachings was later called Christianity, named after Christ. However, Jesus did not explicitly settle many creedal matters before his death. Even Paul, who was allegedly commissioned by Jesus despite not meeting him during his earthly life, did not resolve these doctrinal issues. As a result, early church councils were convened to address and clarify these important creedal questions.

Kobojunkie:
✓ Jesus Christ of Israel founded no religion and condemned religion beginning with the religious leaders of his time, though. So, your religions and supposed credal matters are removed from Him who instead proclaimed His Word as the final authority in the Kingdom over which He is the eternal ruler. 🥱🥱🥱

Antichristian2:
Why debate on all these if Jesus and Paul did clarify them in the Bible? [/size]

Expanse2020:
➜So what you view on the councils over the religion matter did they formed the law and the doctrine by thier hands

Kobojunkie:
The same view I have on Mohammed setting himself up in similar fashion as the Romans before him as a council over that which concerned only the Israelites(Jews included), going as far as to entirely rewrite the scripts to include himself in a story that also had absolutely nothing to do with him and his kind. Mohammed did the same thing the Romans did, only on a bigger scale; he took to "usurping"— in his mind— the place of the Israelites, the chosen bloodline of the YHWH
of Israel, in his own council, forming a religion in the process to establish this notion among those who would follow him. 🥱🥱🥱

Expanse2020:
➜By your statement affirming that the Roman literally wrote the bible change everything to suite themselves and present it to you guys ...

Kobojunkie:
The same view I have on Mohammed setting himself up in similar fashion as the Romans before him as a council over that which concerned only the Israelites(Jews included), going as far as to entirely rewrite the scripts to include himself in a story that also had absolutely nothing to do with him and his kind. Mohammed did the same thing the Romans did, only on a bigger scale; he took to "usurping"— in his mind— the place of the Israelites, the chosen bloodline of the YHWH of Israel, in his own council, forming a religion in the process to establish this notion among those who would follow him. 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:

Wrong! There is no doubt that the books of the bible were written, not by the Romans, but by the Israelites... that much we know because history affirms that. What the Romans instead did — what they also did with their attempts to import the Gods of the Greeks as their own— was build a religiopolitical system of the beliefs of the other people — the Jews(the Israelite origins of the Je

. Are you sure they didn't rewrite your book...
Isreal rabbi even claimed you ppl rewrite Torah and make it 24 books...
However the news books out there naw
Some are 66 books
Some are 84 books
Some are in between
The book lack integrity
ws were an afterthought to them) to their advantage. 🥱🥱🥱

Mohammed is the only one who went as far as to attempt to rewrite all of history, produce his own book, to set himself up as a god over his own followers. 🥱🥱🥱

Expanse2020:
➜Are you sure they didn't rewrite your book...Isreal rabbi even claimed you ppl rewrite Torah and make it 24 books...However the news books out there naw. Some are 66 books, Some are 84 books, Some are in between. The book lack integrity
➜ He attempt to rewrite your history when as if Surat Fatia is in the bible 🤣🤣🤣 So he never claimed to be God rather a messenger and he his not Paul who called Jesus A God for you guys And if you copy your books those that have vast knowledge than you who would have write about it....
➜ The Jews actually knows that you Christianity are just a wayward and lost soul in this life... You have been deceived by Paul

Kobojunkie:
1. The opinions of your so-called Israeli rabbis matter nothing in this, though, as historical evidence points to the bulk of the manuscripts being of Israelite origin, some tracing back to a period before the Romans came into the picture. Yes, many authors wrote different pieces, but not all those pieces were meant to be part of the collection that comprises of Israelite Scriptures. I have personally read all 88 books and more, and I can tell you that the focus of most of those excluded from the collection was something else, not YHWH of Old or anything the Old Prophets declared of Him, so I can understand why those who compiled the collection that is the Bible felt they did not need to be included. But, the books are available for anyone who wishes to learn to read for themselves. :-

So the historians know more than the rabbis who are the isrealites 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And so you actually read the 88 Bibles not the 81 or 66 .. and all of it lack the original manuscript which where no where to be found 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Christianity and wasted efforts na 5 &6

2. A man who is literally worshipped by his followers is a god to his followers. It is as simple as that. Muslims worship Mohammed even though they give the title of deity to their Allah, but Mohammed remains the central figure of worship in the religion. 🥱🥱

Trying to find a justificate your calling of Jesus as a God with Muhammad S.A.W. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We don't worship him at all
Not like the religion of Paul that call Jesus God🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 wasted effort

3. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the same things.... religiopolitical systems set up by humans to manipulate and rule over other humans. None of these religions is recorded in the book as belonging to YHWH of Israel. You are all the same to me. 🥱🥱

Expanse2020:
✓ With all the true will present to you guys you still fail heed warning, don't die as a pagan óò
[b]Islam is the true religion... No others prophets brought religion rather than worship the true one God (Allah) and prophets Muhammad S.A.W. was the last prophet who collective unified the olders prophets work which is Islam...

Expanse2020:
➜So the historians know more than the rabbis who are the isrealites 🤣🤣🤣🤣
➜ And so you actually read the 88 Bibles not the 81 or 66 .. and all of it lack the original manuscript which where no where to be found 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Christianity and wasted efforts na 5 &6
➜ Trying to find a justificate your calling of Jesus as a God with Muhammad S.A.W. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 We don't worship him at all. Not like the religion of Paul that call Jesus God🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 wasted effort

Antichristian2:
Jesus Christ lived on earth for approximately 33 years, with about three years dedicated to his public ministry. The religion founded on his teachings was later called Christianity, named after Christ. However, Jesus did not explicitly settle many creedal matters before his death. Even Paul, who was allegedly commissioned by Jesus despite not meeting him during his earthly life, did not resolve these doctrinal issues. As a result, early church councils were convened to address and clarify these important creedal questions.

Definition of a Council
A council is a formal assembly of church leaders and theologians convened to discuss, debate, and decide on important doctrinal, theological, or disciplinary issues within Christianity.

Why Was It Needed?
Councils were needed to address emerging heresies, clarify Christian doctrine, and maintain unity in belief and practice as Christianity spread and diversified.

Why Not Just Follow Jesus’s Teachings Directly?
-Jesus did not provide detailed systematic theology or resolve all interpretive disputes.
-As the church grew, differing interpretations arose, requiring authoritative decisions.
-Councils provided a collective, guided consensus to preserve orthodox faith and resolve controversies, especially on core creedal matters.

1. Council of Nicaea (325 AD)
Defined the divinity of Jesus Christ, affirming He is "of the same substance" (homoousios) with the Father.
Produced the original Nicene Creed.

2. Council of Constantinople (381 AD)
Expanded the Nicene Creed, affirming the divinity of the Holy Spirit.
Reaffirmed the Trinity doctrine.

3. Council of Ephesus (431 AD)
Affirmed Mary as Theotokos ("God-bearer" or Mother of God).
Condemned Nestorianism (which separated Christ’s divine and human persons).

4. Council of Chalcedon (451 AD)
Defined the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union: Jesus Christ is one person in two natures, fully divine and fully human, without confusion or separation.

5. Second Council of Constantinople (553 AD)
Reaffirmed Chalcedon and condemned certain writings seen as Nestorian.

6. Third Council of Constantinople (680-681 AD)
Condemned Monothelitism, affirming Christ has two wills (divine and human).

7. Second Council of Nicaea (787 AD)
Restored the veneration of icons, condemning iconoclasm.

Why debate on all these if Jesus and Paul did clarify them in the Bible?

Antichristian2:
Jesus Christ lived on earth for approximately 33 years, with about three years dedicated to his public ministry. The religion founded on his teachings was later called Christianity, named after Christ. However, Jesus did not explicitly settle many creedal matters before his death. Even Paul, who was allegedly commissioned by Jesus despite not meeting him during his earthly life, did not resolve these doctrinal issues. As a result, early church councils were convened to address and clarify these important creedal questions.

Definition of a Council
A council is a formal assembly of church leaders and theologians convened to discuss, debate, and decide on important doctrinal, theological, or disciplinary issues within Christianity.

Why Was It Needed?
Councils were needed to address emerging heresies, clarify Christian doctrine, and maintain unity in belief and practice as Christianity spread and diversified.

Why Not Just Follow Jesus’s Teachings Directly?
-Jesus did not provide detailed systematic theology or resolve all interpretive disputes.
-As the church grew, differing interpretations arose, requiring authoritative decisions.
-Councils provided a collective, guided consensus to preserve orthodox faith and resolve controversies, especially on core creedal matters.

1. Council of Nicaea (325 AD)
Defined the divinity of Jesus Christ, affirming He is "of the same substance" (homoousios) with the Father.
Produced the original Nicene Creed.

2. Council of Constantinople (381 AD)
Expanded the Nicene Creed, affirming the divinity of the Holy Spirit.
Reaffirmed the Trinity doctrine.

3. Council of Ephesus (431 AD)
Affirmed Mary as Theotokos ("God-bearer" or Mother of God).
Condemned Nestorianism (which separated Christ’s divine and human persons).

4. Council of Chalcedon (451 AD)
Defined the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union: Jesus Christ is one person in two natures, fully divine and fully human, without confusion or separation.

5. Second Council of Constantinople (553 AD)
Reaffirmed Chalcedon and condemned certain writings seen as Nestorian.

6. Third Council of Constantinople (680-681 AD)
Condemned Monothelitism, affirming Christ has two wills (divine and human).

7. Second Council of Nicaea (787 AD)
Restored the veneration of icons, condemning iconoclasm.

Why debate on all these if Jesus and Paul did clarify them in the Bible?

Antichristian2:
Jesus Christ lived on earth for approximately 33 years, with about three years dedicated to his public ministry. The religion founded on his teachings was later called Christianity, named after Christ. However, Jesus did not explicitly settle many creedal matters before his death. Even Paul, who was allegedly commissioned by Jesus despite not meeting him during his earthly life, did not resolve these doctrinal issues. As a result, early church councils were convened to address and clarify these important creedal questions.

Definition of a Council
A council is a formal assembly of church leaders and theologians convened to discuss, debate, and decide on important doctrinal, theological, or disciplinary issues within Christianity.

Why Was It Needed?
Councils were needed to address emerging heresies, clarify Christian doctrine, and maintain unity in belief and practice as Christianity spread and diversified.

Why Not Just Follow Jesus’s Teachings Directly?
-Jesus did not provide detailed systematic theology or resolve all interpretive disputes.
-As the church grew, differing interpretations arose, requiring authoritative decisions.
-Councils provided a collective, guided consensus to preserve orthodox faith and resolve controversies, especially on core creedal matters.

1. Council of Nicaea (325 AD)
Defined the divinity of Jesus Christ, affirming He is "of the same substance" (homoousios) with the Father.
Produced the original Nicene Creed.

2. Council of Constantinople (381 AD)
Expanded the Nicene Creed, affirming the divinity of the Holy Spirit.
Reaffirmed the Trinity doctrine.

3. Council of Ephesus (431 AD)
Affirmed Mary as Theotokos ("God-bearer" or Mother of God).
Condemned Nestorianism (which separated Christ’s divine and human persons).

4. Council of Chalcedon (451 AD)
Defined the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union: Jesus Christ is one person in two natures, fully divine and fully human, without confusion or separation.

5. Second Council of Constantinople (553 AD)
Reaffirmed Chalcedon and condemned certain writings seen as Nestorian.

6. Third Council of Constantinople (680-681 AD)
Condemned Monothelitism, affirming Christ has two wills (divine and human).

7. Second Council of Nicaea (787 AD)
Restored the veneration of icons, condemning iconoclasm.

Why debate on all these if Jesus and Paul did clarify them in the Bible?

Janosky:
This is the point where Christendom deviated from the teachings of Jesus Christ as revealed in the bible.
All these Councils blended pagan ,Greek & Roman philosophies & coupled with embellishments of holy scriptures to confuse the world.,eg Psalms 9:17 ,Hebrew 1:8 & 1 John 5:7 KJV.
If you are not studious to study the bible,you won't spot these embellishments which has deceived gullible folks.
Regardless of what the dictionary says , Christendom is not the Christianity of the holy Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
I've discovered this Muslim guy is not sincere he's just seeking support for his parent's religion by attacking all other religions!

Janosky:
If he's sincere , he would understand the point I've made.
Bible scholars & researchers are aware of this & label the teachings of Jesus Christ as "primitive Christianity".
Christendom does not practice "primitive Christianity " espoused in the holy scriptures.
Jehovah's witnesses do.

SIRTee15:
Same way Muhammed was sent to deliver to Quran but forgot to compile it in his lifetime.
His companions unfortunately forgot majority of the Quran after his death and had to gather the remnant they remember and write it down.

Let none of you say: ‘I have memorised the whole Qur’an.’ How does he know what all of it is? Much of the Qur’an is lost. Rather let him say: ‘I have memorised from what is left of the Quran.’”

Muhammed said Allah is one but didn't give the details. The companions were now left to define and redefine oneness of God until they came up with TAWHID- the central theme and doctrine of Islam not found in Quran itself.

Tenrack:
my guy go and check out the thread I created for our Muslim brothers and sisters

Dtruthspeaker:
Because Satan will always come to plant lies, distractions, perversions and confusions on God's things so it is never clear.

So, it is always necessary that God's things are clearified

Kobojunkie:
✓ Jesus Christ of Israel founded no religion and condemned religion beginning with the religious leaders of his time, though. So, your religions and supposed credal matters are removed from Him who instead proclaimed His Word as the final authority in the Kingdom over which He is the eternal ruler. 🥱🥱🥱

Antichristian2:
➜Where exactly did Jesus condemned religion?
➜ Which religion (s) did he condemn in the Bible?

Kobojunkie:
Ah! I see you have never, in fact, read the Gospels where Jesus Christ of Israel condemned all of the doctrines and traditions of men as lies, an abomination to His Father, in addition to the Pharisees and Sadducees of even His time? Mind you, Jesus Christ of Israel, was by this repeating the teachings of His Father, YHWH, before Him who condemned the traditions of the priests who twisted His Words to form their own interpretations, and traditions, which they then fed the people in place of His exact Laws to them all.

2. Which religion? Is that a joke? 🤣🤣🤣
Again, Jesus Christ of Israel condemned all doctrines and traditions of men— not some but all — an abomination to YHWH, His Father. So, your question does not even enter at all. 🤣🤣🤣

Antichristian2:
➜I think you know you are not with a novice nor an ignoramus! Show us where Jesus condemned any religion? Even in Christianity there are many doctrines! Show us where Jesus condemned religion?
What religion exactly did Jesus condemned in Israel? Were the Sadducees and Pharisees on a particular religion or were they preaching what they don't follow?

Kobojunkie:
You are told that ALL TRADITIONS AND DOCTRINES OF MEN ARE AN ABOMINATION TO YHWH. Yet, your comeback is that even Christianity has many doctrines? Are you certain you are OK at all? 😂😂😂

Antichristian2:
O! Who created Satan?

And why was he created?