₦airaland Forum

Condolences to the family

I see a lot of people blaming the nurse, the doctors, the government, and so on.

The thing is, allergic reactions to vaccines do happen, and some of them can cause death. And it may have just been the sad thing that both twins happened to have an immune system that reacted to the vaccines.

It is also likely that the twins had a preexisiting condition that was not diagnosed prior to the vaccination, and that did not show signs until after the vaccination.

As many have pointed out, nothing is wrong with the vaccines, otherwise there would have been reports of more deaths from that center.

And it has nothing to do with who was the nurse or how the nurse gave the vaccine.


All in all, an autopsy and also a thorough investigation would give us an idea of what exactly happened.

Any small thing, them go say give the baby panda paracetamol and vitamin cee.

Our doctors and nurses know very little about infant healths.

What helped us during my time was Local medicine(herbs).

RaptorX:
Vaccines are poison, how many times we go tell you people.

If it was poison, how come no one else who got the same type of vaccine died?

Plus every drug, including the traditional drugs you guys swear by, is poision. It's because they are administered in doses that do their job, not kill the patient, that they work.

jrobbins:
Any small thing, them go say give the baby panda paracetamol and vitamin cee.

Our doctors and nurses know very little about infant healths.

What helped us during my time was Local medicine(herbs).

The commonest allergic reaction to vaccines is fever, which is what happened in this case, hence the nurse's advice to give them paracetamol. If the PCM was not working, they should have been taken to a hospital immediately.

And yes, doctors know how to treat vaccine reactions.

Using herbs doesn't work for most people, otherwise all our hospitals would have been closed for lack of patronage.

Father4all:
stop this rubbish. You take a serious issue like this as joke

Morning milk for most children is like solid food while for grown up it's just refreshing for you to start a good day


So where are we on the topic

Godfullsam:
Don't be too emotional about the situation. Do you know how many children get immunisation from the PHC?
if the PHC was responsible for the death of the children, very may children would have been kill by the vaccine.

It could be that the very nurse that administered the vaccine on the kids was too high handed or incompetent or the PCM given to the children after the vaccine was adulterated or expired.

The vaccine should be out of scrutiny since they weren't the only babies to receive it. And it's not the paracetamol since the symptoms started before the paracetamol, and also other babies received the same paracetamol without issues. My only diagnosis is that they developed anaphylaxis to excipients of the vaccine. And don't forget the hospital had said it's a food poisoning case,which seems more like it. I guess they have done an autopsy which made them arrive at that

tollyboy5:
Immunization should not be on babies please.

babies in the village survive without it

Have you compared the under 5 mortality of babies in the village without vaccines to those vaccinated? You guys just come online to vomit whatever is in your head

RaptorX:
Vaccines are poison, how many times we go tell you people.

Not poison if well preserved. They do get expire

If you eat contaminated or expired food, that's food poison

So sad. My heart really goes out to this family. May God grant them the fortitude to bear this great loss

EdiskyHarry:
No sir, it's not poison if it's done the right way.

Question :

Do they do immunization in the US, Canada or European countries?

jaephoenix:
The vaccine should be out of scrutiny since they weren't the only babies to receive it. And it's not the paracetamol since the symptoms started before the paracetamol, and also other babies received the same paracetamol without issues. My only diagnosis is that they developed anaphylaxis to excipients of the vaccine. And don't forget the hospital had said it's a food poisoning case,which seems more like it. I guess they have done an autopsy which made them arrive at that

How are you sure it was the same given to others that was given to the children?

Skyfornia:
At 9 months, are they supposed to receive injection or oral immunization?? I think they were still tender to receive injection for immunization.

Even babies in the womb receive injections, never mind 9 months old

PlasmaTV:
This is absolutely pathetic.

Unfortunately, I know someone who suffered this same cause. Exactly! Child died after immunization.

Case was muddled up eventually.

This happened 2 years ago.

Why are we this way in Nigeria?

Look here, who are you trying to blame ?
The nurse that has given 100,000 immunization prior or the manufacturer of the vaccine or the fact that no investigation was made ?

Agugbadin:
Sad indeed. This era of fake and counterfeit drugs in Naija .

No most of the vaccines come from the source , GAVI, made by Pfizer, AstraZeneca etc.
We should be asking them what they put in these things it's not about fakes...Naija.

This is the 2nd time I am reading of very severe reactions to the 9 months vaccine

Yellow fever,measles, and meningitis

I honestly don't think the 9 months vaccine is supposed to be associated with very very high fever, the penta 6, 10 and 14 weeks is what is notorious for the very high temperature.


Something went horribly wrong, this is so disheartening and traumatic 2 children at once within 24 hours, very terrible.

It happened at a health center where many children would have also received from the same vial that particular day ,may make it a bit difficult to pin point the exact cause.


Only God can console the parents.

adioolayi:
This is very disheartening news..

The state of the mother and father right now...what a tragedy!

That said...

The question will be, why just these two babies reportedly out of hundreds that would have taken the vaccines?

Hmmm... humans are very complex creature and taking medicine, sometimes, na complex process..,..it goes beyond "no be tablets, no be syrup, no be injections, no be vaccines" ..

As common as paracetamol is, wey everyone dey take am, some people dare not...if they do and there is not intervention..na die.

Thorough investigation will have to be done to ascertain what caused this unfortunate incident...the irony, it may not have anything to do with the healthcare providers...it may just be the body system of these beautiful souls that was lost too soon.

God comfort the parents

The question is; what actually did those kids receive in the name of vaccines? What quality assurance tests were carried out on those 'vaccines' to ascertain that they actually contained the desired molecules and not some poisonous substances?

People don't know that even improper storage and handling of a drug/vaccines can change it from the desired molecules to a poison! What we see in Nigeria most times is a situation where hospitals don't employ the right professionals but think they can employ just anybody to handle things that were meant to be done by professionals. This leads to cases like what we have in this report.

It is possible the batch of vaccines administered to the twins had been contaminated or expired. They might also have undergone major changes due to poor storage to some toxic products. Those are the possible scenarios that might have resulted to this event.

I just hope the right investigation would be carried out to unearth what actually led to the deaths of the twins

slivertongue:
Something must be done quickly about Lagos State healthcare system because it's gradually becoming a death trap. Too many incompetent hands parading the hospitals as healthcare professionals.

Condolences to the family of the Yan biu.

When dealing with such sensitive news, you ought to take a minute and think critically without any bias to evaluate the issue properly.
The important questions in this case should be:
How come other babies vaccinated same day didn't die?
That centre must have been running for many years. How many deaths from immunization have they recorded?
Could this be a coincidence or there was something wrong with that particular batch of vaccine?
If there was a human error, could it have affected just those 2 babies out of the numbers handled that day?
Who is in charge of vaccine procurement and storage?
Is there sufficient arrangement for vaccine cold storage and quick dispatch?
What is the role of government in this?

People are quick to run down the hospitals for things like this but when health workers strike demanding for better pay, better equipments and improved working environment, it is same general population that call them greedy and insult them.

At this rate, we are getting to a point where people would rather go abroad to practice and the rest left will switch to other professions. Healthcare is now looking less attractive by the day and we'll get to a point where students don't fill in to be health workers anymore. It is getting too dangerous to be a health worker in Nigeria with each passing day, because they take the fall for every government lapse while being paid like beggars.

bewla:
What is the topic again
Am missing something

Oh! you must be zombie........

merrymike47:
This is what happens when majority of our professionals are all scattered abroad seeking greener pastures and we are left with novice. I’m not concluding on the cause of the death, I’m just stating my obvious concern of how most firms have degenerated and it’s actually a sad and unfortunate situation. I’ve already gotten to the juncture where I hardly receive any treatment whatsoever if it’s not from my family doctor or a trusted person.

What people think: they have solution to my ailment at the hospital

In reality: nurses make mistakes that could be costly.

We all should be careful where we get our treatments from. Our prayers are with the parents of the departed.

Exactly , last week I felt I bit headache, I went to a nearby pharmacy to check my BP which landed at 105/85.....I no know wetin e mean na.
Now the guy told me my BP is low that he will give me a medication I said okay. My mind immediately touched me I had to call my mom to tell her about it while the guy was arranging the drugs, my mom shouted at me to run ooo ..that 105/85 is good oo that I should run away from there.
Na so I disappear from outside even with the guy money.

manuelkel:
Exactly , last week I felt I bit headache, I went to a nearby pharmacy to check my BP which landed at 105/85.....I no know wetin e mean na.
Now the guy told me my BP is low that he will give me a medication I said okay. My mind immediately touched me I had to call my mom to tell her about it while the guy was arranging the drugs, my mom shouted at me to run ooo ..that 105/85 is good oo that I should run away from there.
Na so I disappear from outside even with the guy money.

You probably went to one of the roadside chemists or quack pharmacies. No pharmacy owned and run by a pharmacist would interpret that BP reading as low BP.

Jman06:
The question is; what actually did those kids receive in the name of vaccines? What quality assurance tests were carried out on those 'vaccines' to ascertain that they actually contained the desired molecules and not some poisonous substances?

People don't know that even improper storage and handling of a drug/vaccines can change it from the desired molecules to a poison! What we see in Nigeria most times is a situation where hospitals don't employ the right professionals but think they can employ just anybody to handle things that were meant to be done by professionals. This leads to cases like what we have in this report.

It is possible the batch of vaccines administered to the twins had been contaminated or expired. They might also have undergone major changes due to poor storage to some toxic products. Those are the possible scenarios that might have resulted to this event.

I just hope the right investigation would be carried out to unearth what actually led to the deaths of the twins

Your opinions are spot-on. Vaccines storage and handling can pose huge health risks if not properly done.
Especially as vaccines are not "drugs"..they are actually "partially killed" viruses, weakened for body to overcome them by itself to confer immunity. But when not stored properly, the "partially killed" can regain its full potentials, causing the real viral damage to the body when given.

We have a case like this in Nigeria...the Pfizer polio vaccine that caused polio in Northern part of Nigeria many years ago.

Where this particular incident is troubling is that, mass cases of babies death would have been reported around that locality where the health centre is, if the vaccine is the problem.

You get my point?

A lot of learner turn oga at hospital
I know of 3 to 4 ladies that die this year alone while giving birth and short of blood while some the hospital can't handle it before taking her to another place she gave up

Nigeria learning the hard way

adenigga:
Source: https://dailypost.ng/2026/01/16/man-seeks-justice-as-nine-month-old-lagos-twins-allegedly-die-after-immunisation

adioolayi:
Your opinions are spot-on. Vaccines storage and handling can pose huge health risks if not properly done.
Especially as vaccines are not "drugs"..they are actually "partially killed" viruses, weakened for body to overcome them by itself to confer immunity. But when not stored properly, the "partially killed" can regain its full potentials, causing the real viral damage to the body when given.

We have a case like this in Nigeria...the Pfizer polio vaccine that caused polio in Northern part of Nigeria many years ago.

Where this particular incident is troubling is that, mass cases of babies death would have been reported around that locality where the health centre is, if the vaccine is the problem.

You get my point?

It's still possible that just a small number of the vaccines were probably affected and just a few babies, including the twins, died as a result. In that case, it becomes difficult to know if the deaths were as a result of the vaccines. I got your point though

slivertongue:
Something must be done quickly about Lagos State healthcare system because it's gradually becoming a death trap. Too many incompetent hands parading the hospitals as healthcare professionals.

Condolences to the family of the Yan biu.

Fake drugs perhaps... investigation should isolate the batch of vaccination used with autopsy to determine if the Vaccine caused the death

Jeje247:
When dealing with such sensitive news, you ought to take a minute and think critically without any bias to evaluate the issue properly.
The important questions in this case should be:
How come other babies vaccinated same day didn't die?
That centre must have been running for many years. How many deaths from immunization have they recorded?
Could this be a coincidence or there was something wrong with that particular batch of vaccine?
If there was a human error, could it have affected just those 2 babies out of the numbers handled that day?
Who is in charge of vaccine procurement and storage?
Is there sufficient arrangement for vaccine cold storage and quick dispatch?
What is the role of government in this?

People are quick to run down the hospitals for things like this but when health workers strike demanding for better pay, better equipments and improved working environment, it is same general population that call them greedy and insult them.

At this rate, we are getting to a point where people would rather go abroad to practice and the rest left will switch to other professions. Healthcare is now looking less attractive by the day and we'll get to a point where students don't fill in to be health workers anymore. It is getting too dangerous to be a health worker in Nigeria with each passing day, because they take the fall for every government lapse while being paid like beggars.

This is because if an Intelligent quotient test was conducted across Nigeria, it would reveal the actual number of very slow folks among the population, these are unarguably the people dragging Nigeria backwards, they're the ones the looters we have in public offices bank on during elections.
How self beneficial can attacking those protesting better public health facilities be? Quite amazing when it is largely those who cannot afford private facilities or even those living in villages doing these things.
And "two" isn't nothing, you raise good questions about the cold storage needed, persistent cold storage where stock never falls below a certain temperature range, how efficient are the systems in place for this?
In a system like ours where the issue of fake medications isn't properly tackled, that the father bought an adulterated pcm isn't impossible, in a serious society where recurrence of such tragedies aren't looked up to, an autopsy would have been ordered and procedure duely monitored by the right professionals and authorities, but we know how things are here, and how they go, one day Nigerians will stand for themselves and not with those grossly underperforming in public offices.

Neddstark:
How can you lose twins just like that
The wife should not be silent, women's voices are powerful on social media. Let her story be heard.
I'm just wondering, could it be a demonically-minded nurse that intentionally poisoned the children out of evil?
Sad story.😔

I sincerely suspect so too.

Lagos Nurses are so used to the culture of indiference to Patients and mediocrities in their practice and seeing frequent mortalities in their workplace that their sense of humanity is dead.

Not to talk of when the nurse is a naturally embittered and wicked person!
The Children may have been Killed with intentional malice.

Perhaps the Nurse had a small disagreement with the young parents and she decided to teach them a lesson...

If this matter is allowed to be swept under the carpet just like that...

...such medical practitioners will kill many many more innocent persons going forward.

Arise everybody

manuelkel:
Exactly , last week I felt I bit headache, I went to a nearby pharmacy to check my BP which landed at 105/85.....I no know wetin e mean na.
Now the guy told me my BP is low that he will give me a medication I said okay. My mind immediately touched me I had to call my mom to tell her about it while the guy was arranging the drugs, my mom shouted at me to run ooo ..that 105/85 is good oo that I should run away from there.
Na so I disappear from outside even with the guy money.

😂😂. Run oo, before they’ll use you for experiment that you did not sign for.

adioolayi:
This is very disheartening news..

The state of the mother and father right now...what a tragedy!

That said...

The question will be, why just these two babies reportedly out of hundreds that would have taken the vaccines?

Hmmm... humans are very complex creature and taking medicine, sometimes, na complex process..,..it goes beyond "no be tablets, no be syrup, no be injections, no be vaccines" ..

As common as paracetamol is, wey everyone dey take am, some people dare not...if they do and there is not intervention..na die.

Thorough investigation will have to be done to ascertain what caused this unfortunate incident...the irony, it may not have anything to do with the healthcare providers...it may just be the body system of these beautiful souls that was lost too soon.

God comfort the parents

spot on, but we’ll still blame the healthcare system that failed them. Many times when I visit the hospital, the first thing they do is run a test and no treatment will commence until the test result is out, which take less than few minutes. This isn’t even an emergency case, why administer treatment when you have not confirmed if there’s any allergies, reaction, etc. the attitude of majority of our health care workers will land them in jail in a saner clime. Ask Michael Jackson’s doctor, he can tell you better.

Unfortunately, Nigeria is not a country where we value life much. Imole died after treatment was administered to him, till date no one can figure out the cause of his death. People loose life because of the unprofessionalism of some health workers, if paracetamol will react in a patient’s body, why administer it at first?

nairalanda1:
Condolences to the family

I see a lot of people blaming the nurse, the doctors, the government, and so on.

The thing is, allergic reactions to vaccines do happen, and some of them can cause death. And it may have just been the sad thing that both twins happened to have an immune system that reacted to the vaccines.

It is also likely that the twins had a preexisiting condition that was not diagnosed prior to the vaccination, and that did not show signs until after the vaccination.

As many have pointed out, nothing is wrong with the vaccines, otherwise there would have been reports of more deaths from that center.

And it has nothing to do with who was the nurse or how the nurse gave the vaccine.


All in all, an autopsy and also a thorough investigation would give us an idea of what exactly happened.

I stand to be corrected, but I think it has everything to do with the nurse and how he/she administered the vaccine. Vaccines are like life diseases which are injected into the body system for the body to grow immune over the disease. In most cases, it should be administered with close supervision and following all the vaccine rules as stated by the producer. This is Nigeria sha, anything goes, but it’s sad.

nairalanda1:
If it was poison, how come no one else who got the same type of vaccine died?

Plus every drug, including the traditional drugs you guys swear by, is poision. It's because they are administered in doses that do their job, not kill the patient, that they work.

The toxins in local herbs leads to complications that kills faster than anything. Also drugs/medications can be as dangerous if it is wrongly administered.

merrymike47:
I stand to be corrected, but I think it has everything to do with the nurse and how he/she administered the vaccine. Vaccines are like life diseases which are injected into the body system for the body to grow immune over the disease. In most cases, it should be administered with close supervision and following all the vaccine rules as stated by the producer. This is Nigeria sha, anything goes, but it’s sad.

So, why didn't any of the other children that were vaccinated by the nurse with the same vaccine die too?