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Joebie:
prompting Gemini further

Gemini sources response from posts from the net - page ranking. As there's no precedent for this case, don't expect it show that Nigeria will win.

If we win, same Gemini will update it's records.

Few weeks ago, Gemini reported that FIFA had dismissed our claim because some sites listed the news.

Joebie:
you want FIFA to help Congo DR apply their own laws? FIFA won't do that

Comprehension is your problem
I'll screenshot fifa rules on eligibility, so you understand better
But let me just explain it in a lay man term:
In fifa rules being from a country is not enough
Having ties to a country is not enough
Holding/submitting a passport to fifa is not enough
The rules state that before submitting a passport to fifa all administrative requirements of that country must have been fulfilled before submitting a passport
FIFA can withdraw clearance from a player to play to play from a country if the passport He submitted to fifa if found fraudulent.

Now to the congolese case:
What is the administrative requirements for one to get a passport?
You must hold one nationality, dual nationality is not allowed, clearly stated in there constitution (administrative requirements)
Holding another passport alongside the Congolese passport, makes you not even a citizen of that country (exceptions to 21 year olds)
You can't waive a constitution or apply it to a few
A constitution is binding, it can only be replaced or amended, and this process usually take time

What's Congolese law have to do with fifa rules now?
The administrative part, congo did not fulfill the administrative part of issuing the passports, to players who are dual nationals (as these Congolese players still hold other passports)
According to fifa that's fraudulent, looks like the passport were given to the players illegally without fulfilling all administrative processes.
FIFA is still binded to a countries law, fifa laws are not above a country laws.

If after all these explanations you don't understand, YOU NEED HELP🙂

Joebie:
prompting Gemini further

This energy you are using to ask AI
You can just use it to Google fifa laws on eligibility 🙂

mekabuachi:
Comprehension is your problem
I'll screenshot fifa rules on eligibility, so you understand better
But let me just explain it in a lay man term:
In fifa rules being from a country is not enough
Having ties to a country is not enough
Holding/submitting a passport to fifa is not enough
The rules state that before submitting a passport to fifa all administrative requirements of that country must have been fulfilled before submitting a passport
FIFA can withdraw clearance from a player to play to play from a country if the passport He submitted to fifa if found fraudulent.

Now to the congolese case:
What is the administrative requirements for one to get a passport?
You must hold one nationality, dual nationality is not allowed, clearly stated in there constitution (administrative requirements)
Holding another passport alongside the Congolese passport, makes you not even a citizen of that country (exceptions to 21 year olds)
You can't waive a constitution or apply it to a few
A constitution is binding, it can only be replaced or amended, and this process usually take time

What's Congolese law have to do with fifa rules now?
The administrative part, congo did not fulfill the administrative part of issuing the passports, to players who are dual nationals (as these Congolese players still hold other passports)
According to fifa that's fraudulent, looks like the passport were given to the players illegally without fulfilling all administrative processes.
FIFA is still binded to a countries law, fifa laws are not above a country laws.

If after all these explanations you don't understand, YOU NEED HELP🙂

On a normal day fifa shouldn’t be bothered about national laws but a situation where countries can be shameless to go against their own constitution then fifa needs to protect the integrity of the game if they see it that way sha!

Joebie:
prompting Gemini further

The NFF may have a case here. If DR Congo told FIFA that those 9 players fulfilled domestic nationality/passport laws when they in fact did not, then that istself constitutes fraudulent communication/misrepresentation. In other words, DR Congo lied to FIFA.

I have already accepted that SE won't got to the WC but there could be a chance here.

Ppogbae:
The NFF may have a case here. If DR Congo told FIFA that those 9 players fulfilled domestic nationality/passport laws when they in fact did not, then that istself constitutes fraudulent communication/misrepresentation. In other words, DR Congo lied to FIFA.

I have already accepted that SE won't got to the WC but there could be a chance here.

Ten bottles of your favourite alcohol
I wonder how it's so difficult for people to understand

Ppogbae:
The NFF may have a case here. If DR Congo told FIFA that those 9 players fulfilled domestic nationality/passport laws when they in fact did not, then that istself constitutes fraudulent communication/misrepresentation. In other words, DR Congo lied to FIFA.

I have already accepted that SE won't got to the WC but there could be a chance here.

So countries don't have rights to make exemptions and exceptions?

What administrative requirement? is it that of FIFA or on the national side? That is the koko.

mekabuachi:
Comprehension is your problem
I'll screenshot fifa rules on eligibility, so you understand better
But let me just explain it in a lay man term:
In fifa rules being from a country is not enough
Having ties to a country is not enough
Holding/submitting a passport to fifa is not enough
The rules state that before submitting a passport to fifa all administrative requirements of that country must have been fulfilled before submitting a passport
FIFA can withdraw clearance from a player to play to play from a country if the passport He submitted to fifa if found fraudulent.

Now to the congolese case:
What is the administrative requirements for one to get a passport?
You must hold one nationality, dual nationality is not allowed, clearly stated in there constitution (administrative requirements)
Holding another passport alongside the Congolese passport, makes you not even a citizen of that country (exceptions to 21 year olds)
You can't waive a constitution or apply it to a few
A constitution is binding, it can only be replaced or amended, and this process usually take time

What's Congolese law have to do with fifa rules now?
The administrative part, congo did not fulfill the administrative part of issuing the passports, to players who are dual nationals (as these Congolese players still hold other passports)
According to fifa that's fraudulent, looks like the passport were given to the players illegally without fulfilling all administrative processes.
FIFA is still binded to a countries law, fifa laws are not above a country laws.

If after all these explanations you don't understand, YOU NEED HELP🙂

Joebie:
What administrative requirement? is it that of FIFA or on the national side? That is the koko.

National side sir🙂
Fulfill all administrative requirements of the country, before getting the passport.

Joebie:
What administrative requirement? is it that of FIFA or on the national side? That is the koko.

As she break am down reach , u still dey ask dis question,hope say ur career has nothing to do with human life ? 🙄

AndSunGorilla:
So countries don't have rights to make exemptions and exceptions?

But it's stated in FIFA law that you must fulfill a country administrative law before you can be eligible to represent that country.

AndSunGorilla:
So countries don't have rights to make exemptions and exceptions?

Many countries that dont allow dual citizenship have- Togo, Congo DR and Surinam etc.


Nigeria's argument is on deception - speed of issuance of the passport without prior renunciation suggesting fraud.

CAF don send super eagles thé bronze medals ?
I no see ceremony o

According to Osasu, NFF President picked it up already.

yinkeys:
CAF don send super eagles thé bronze medals ?
I no see ceremony o

Morocco stepped on the toe of the world oo

https://youtube.com/shorts/1ArMt4Hza8k?si=rVJQmu_jAktjTCYl

Bamidele Yusuf scored in Ferencvaros' 1-1 draw vs Panathinaikos in the Europa League.

Cyriel Dessers not fully back to full fitness.

Cleansheet for Jayden Meghoma, LB and Emmanuel Opeyemi Fernandez, CB in Rangers'
1-0 win vs Ludogorets Razgrad in the Europa League.

Ola Aina played 69mins at LB today in Nottingham Forest's 1-0 defeat away at Sporting Braga in the Europa League. He came close to scoring with a 35 yard strike that hit the bar.

Odunayaw:
Morocco steps on the toe of the world oo

https://youtube.com/shorts/1ArMt4Hza8k?si=rVJQmu_jAktjTCYl

No one likes injustice including the ones who perpetuate injustice themselves 😂

Goke7:
No one likes injustice including the ones who perpetuate injustice themselves 😂

You saw other North Africans jubilating 😆

Is T. O Lawal currently keeping for Genk not a Nigerian?

Was in goal today in their Europa league match against twente

Odunayaw:
Morocco stepped on the toe of the world oo

https://youtube.com/shorts/1ArMt4Hza8k?si=rVJQmu_jAktjTCYl

Omo I don't think even Nigeria has had it this bad.

But come, why is the Nigeria location in the video looking so advanced and classy. You sure say na the Naija we dey?

FiveFootNinja:
Omo I don't think even Nigeria has had it this bad.

But come, why is the Nigeria location in the video looking so advanced and classy. You sure say na the Naija we dey?

Certainly a lounge or something

AndSunGorilla:
So countries don't have rights to make exemptions and exceptions?

They do but I think the issue here is that did DRC granted those guys exemptions before FIFA approved their application. If not, I think NFF has a case here.....

simple question, what was the administrative lapse?
Did FECOFA deceive FIFA?

Ultimately, the NFF's case rests on the interpretation of whether a state-issued passport that is seemingly valid on its face can be considered "fraudulent documentation". Else, forget it!

elyte89:
As she break am down reach , u still dey ask dis question,hope say ur career has nothing to do with human life ? 🙄

Odunayaw:
Morocco stepped on the toe of the world oo

https://youtube.com/shorts/1ArMt4Hza8k?si=rVJQmu_jAktjTCYl

Even their Arab brothers dey celebrate. Omo the beef no be here oo.

Procashtips:
Is T. O Lawal currently keeping for Genk not a Nigerian?

Was in goal today in their Europa league match against twente

The same Tobias Lawal who failed to play for Nigeria due to the dual nationality palaver during Rohr's time? Austrian laws forbid dual nationality so he choose to stay with Austria.

Same matter wey we dey drag with DRC

Joebie:
prompting Gemini further

You are arguing strongly based on your conversation with Gemini. Gemini, grok, Chat gpt etc has given me a lot of false information before, so leave Gemini and be realistic.

solonnachi:
The same Tobias Lawal who failed to play for Nigeria due to the dual nationality palaver during Rohr's time? Austrian laws forbid dual nationality so he choose to stay with Austria.

Same matter wey we dey drag with DRC

These 2 players switched national teams from the same Austria without denouncing their Austrian citizenship

Karlovich:
These 2 players switched national teams from the same Austria without denouncing their Austrian citizenship

https://x.com/omaakatugba/status/1717658458915209390

Acquiring Foreign Citizenship (As an Austrian Citizen):
You must apply for and get written permission to retain your Austrian citizenship before applying for the foreign one; otherwise, you lose it.

Applying for Austrian Citizenship (As a Foreigner):
You must generally renounce your previous citizenship, unless it's impossible or unreasonable for you to do so (e.g., if your home country doesn't allow renunciation)

Joebie:
ruling in favor of Congo DR, does not make FIFA ignore it's own laws. I don't see any potential conflicts here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP6aEkohG-8

Joebie:
There is nothing wrong with countries relaxing their laws to accomodate sportsmen. That is a national matter. All FIFA wants to know is if you have legit document that proves you are a citizen and is cleared by that country. DR Congo has their minds fixated on the intercontinental play-offs

Then make all the countries relax laws too. We go collect Saka wether e don play for england national team or not. We go collect eze too . Cameroon go mbappe and others

According to reports, Walid Regragui will not be in charge of the Moroccan national team at the FIFA World Cup, as he is expected to resign from his role as head coach in the coming days.

The 50-year-old is the first African coach to reach the semi-finals of the FIFA World Cup. He has a 73% win rate with Morocco, having won 48 matches, drawn 9, and lost 9 in 66 games.

Sarsaparilla524:
According to reports, Walid Regragui will not be in charge of the Moroccan national team at the FIFA World Cup, as he is expected to resign from his role as head coach in the coming days.

The 50-year-old is the first African coach to reach the semi-finals of the FIFA World Cup. He has a 73% win rate with Morocco, having won 48 matches, drawn 9, and lost 9 in 66 games.

This must be fake 😃, aw u go sack this kind coach