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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:11pm On Jan 24 |
Unlimited22:Another gun shot abi? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:14pm On Jan 24 |
Unlimited22:I don't know, they make tiktok videos about shooting ice, ICE agents sees it, they are afraid for their lives, they have family, then someone stupidly decided to scuffle with ICE agents with a gun. There is one way to calm the situation and he is the one to do it not ICE, first he should let them know he has a gun and willing to cooperate with them not fight and resist. That way, every is calm and think they are safe. Not doing that may result to someone dying. Not that I think he should be killed, but decisions have consequences. If you are carrying and you get stopped by an officer, you are obligated to inform him immediately that you are carrying and where the gun is. If he finds out by himself, it will spook the officers and cause a potential altercation. https://youtube.com/shorts/tEMPAVAoneA https://youtube.com/shorts/0L_i2uI5mpA |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:21pm On Jan 24 |
Politicians are telling them they should be willing to get shot. No politicians have asked the people they encourage to stop making videos saying they are going to kill ICE with their 2nd amendment rights, which they don't support. Too much madness |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:36pm On Jan 24 |
benalvino3:Let them deport his dead body.. So whats the penalty for making videos saying " kill ICE" in line with the constitution of the united states? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:37pm On Jan 24 |
bayelsaowei:He was an American with a gun. It's like politicians like Wike asking youths to do dirty stuff and the youths get killed |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:38pm On Jan 24 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:52pm On Jan 24 |
bayelsaowei:Confronting ICE, blocking traffic and fighting with them while carrying a weapon. That's a dumb thing to do. No one should wait to get shot before they shoot. This is not a movie. People can fear for their lives including police which is why de-escalation is key. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:58pm On Jan 24*. Modified: 9:23pm On Jan 24 |
benalvino3:Abeg I need video where him dey fight ice officer.. what i saw was more than 5 ice agents gathering one man.. He cant fight 5 people.. Go and get more videos to corroborate your stance or do the needful by condemning this act. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:30pm On Jan 24 |
bayelsaowei:When you are under arrest, two officers is not enough sometimes to restrain a person. Bad decisions have got someone killed yet again. Once you are being detained, you must/should comply. If you are being arrested, the same is the case. ICE or police treat you unjustly? Fight it in court and get paid for damages. No go carry gun they go confront ICE or police then begin resist when them Wan arrest you. Na wahala you dey find. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:47pm On Jan 24 |
America is supposedly the land of the free where the republicans argue that we have the right to bear arms and that they are willing to defend that right with their blood and the blood of their school aged children. Yet they suddenly okay with a legally armed non threatening citizen being summarily executed for a right they’ve claimed for decades that we are entitled to. Just because he doesn’t agree with their dear leader. May whatever evil you guys support never depart from your lives. Amen This morning, Alex Pretti was shot and killed in Minneapolis by a group of Border Patrol agents after filming them. Alex Pretti was an ICU nurse at the VA who helped critically ill veterans. Alex's colleagues say he was a wonderful man who loved his patients and enjoyed mountain biking. He will be greatly missed.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Unlimited22: 10:04pm On Jan 24 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:09pm On Jan 24 |
benalvino3:You havent presented a video to support your narration o.. I am waiting.... Let us even assume the man was resisting arrest with the over 5 officers, what is the penalty for that? Gun shots? Shoot to death..death penalty ? You better comot body for this matter oo.. because when God wants to judge this matter and for some reason these ICE agents have shown recklessness, you would share in that judgement. That man never fired a shot at the ICE officers. But he was tackled and shot at..broad day light.. I dey look you oo.. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:12pm On Jan 24 |
cococandy:Anybody who has supported the killing of an innocent person would surely be judged just like the person who actually perpetrated the act.. Folks think they can get away with supporting nonsense.. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:21pm On Jan 24 |
I am watching the video from another angle.. I wish I can upload videos here. Its actually a sorry and gory sight. I feel so bad for the man's family. 10 shots.. See ehn.. My tired is tired. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 12:33am On Jan 25 |
cococandy:Can’t stand the hypocrisy any longer |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IMAliyu2: 1:16am On Jan 25 |
"Abolish ICE" is the moderate position |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 1:21am On Jan 25 |
The sad part is, he is a legal gun owner. Legal gun owners (especially those with concealed carry permits or in permitless carry states) receive consistent advice from major organizations like the **USCCA** (United States Concealed Carry Association), NRA-affiliated sources, training experts (e.g., Massad Ayoob), and legal guides on how to interact safely with law enforcement during encounters like traffic stops, pedestrian stops, or other contacts. The goal is to reduce tension, avoid misunderstandings, and ensure everyone's safety—since officers are trained to view any firearm as a potential threat until clarified. ### Key General Advice - **Stay calm, polite, and compliant**: Keep hands visible (e.g., on the steering wheel during a traffic stop), move slowly and deliberately, avoid sudden movements, and follow all commands without argument. Explain actions in advance (e.g., "Officer, I'm reaching for my license in my wallet" .- **Know your state's "duty to inform" laws**: As of 2025–2026, about 12–15 states require you to proactively notify the officer that you're armed (and often where the firearm is) as soon as contact begins or when asked for ID. In non-duty-to-inform states, you generally don't have to volunteer the information unless asked, but many experts recommend disclosing early for de-escalation. - Examples of duty-to-inform states: Alaska, Arkansas, California (in some contexts), Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, etc. (Check current lists from USCCA or state statutes, as they can change.) - In permitless carry states (e.g., many in the South/Midwest), disclosure isn't required unless the officer asks, but transparency helps. - **How and when to disclose if carrying**: - If required or if you choose to: Do it immediately upon contact, calmly and clearly. Common phrasing: "Officer, for your safety and mine, I want to let you know I have a concealed firearm on my person/in the vehicle. It's located [specify: e.g., holster on right hip, glove box]. How would you like me to proceed?" - Do **not** reach for the firearm, your waistband, or anywhere near it without explicit instructions from the officer. - If the officer asks for your ID/registration: Inform them before reaching (e.g., "My license is in my back pocket—may I reach for it?" .- **During a traffic stop specifically**: - Turn on interior lights at night. - Keep engine off, windows down, hands on wheel. - If asked to exit the vehicle, do so slowly; inform if the firearm is on your person. - Some trainers advise keeping hands visible and not volunteering the gun's location unless necessary, but prioritize officer safety. - **If the officer asks to secure/take your firearm**: - Comply calmly—do not resist. Say something like: "Yes, officer, I understand. The firearm is [location]. I'm complying fully." - Do not argue legality in the moment; address it later if needed (with a lawyer). - **Other tips**: - Avoid reaching into glove boxes, under seats, or bags without permission. - If you're in a high-stress situation (e.g., recent self-defense incident), call 911 first to report and clarify you're the victim/good guy. - Record the interaction if legal and safe (many states allow one-party consent), but inform the officer if doing so. - After the encounter, note details and consider consulting an attorney or your carry insurance (e.g., USCCA, CCW Safe) if anything felt off. This advice comes from sources like USCCA blogs (updated as recently as 2025), NRA-related publications, and expert trainers emphasizing de-escalation to prevent tragic misunderstandings (e.g., referencing high-profile cases where poor communication escalated situations). Laws vary by state and can evolve, so always verify with your local statutes or a qualified instructor/attorney for your area. If you're in a specific state or scenario, provide details for more tailored info! |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:21am On Jan 25 |
cococandy:Cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy at its peak. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 1:38am On Jan 25 |
This is for your bayelsaowei and Unlimited22 Watch this video and tell me what you think.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:39am On Jan 25 |
Republicans don't really believe in the rights of Freedom of Speech or Gun ownership, they believe its their right to decide who gets to do those things. That's why Noem can say that a guy who has a legal concealed weapon is dangerous and should be shot while they simultaneously go around the country cheering unabated concealed and open weapon carry.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:46am On Jan 25 |
I don't post Twitter links, but this is the clearest video a friend shared. And thought it was important to post. Straight murder. https://x.com/afstreamwatch/status/2015173165081604267?s=46&t=-sB2zyKup7Gam9-OjfplSg |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:56am On Jan 25*. Modified: 5:07am On Jan 25 |
Unlimited22:https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/2015158747732049931/video/1 https://x.com/KUCCPS_Official/status/1958862952607486270 Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino. Bovino: At 9:05am Central Standard Time, as DHS law enforcement officers were conducting a targeted operation in Minneapolis against an illegal alien, Jose Huerta Chuma— you can see this illegal alien on the screen to my left and right. That is Jose Huerta Chuma, whose criminal history includes domestic assault to intentionally inflict bodily harm, disorderly conduct, and driving without a valid license. During this operation, an individual approached US Border Patrol agents with a nine millimeter semi-automatic handgun. The agents attempted to disarm the individual, but he violently resisted. Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, a border patrol agent fired defensive shots. Medics on the scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject, but the subject was pronounced dead at the scene. The suspect also had two loaded magazines and no assesable ID. This looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement. Then, about 200 rioters arrived at the scene and began to obstruct and assault law enforcement. Crowd control measures have been deployed for the safety of the public and law enforcement. The situation is evolving, and more information is forthcoming. The officer was highly trained and had been serving as a border patrol agent for eight years. The officer has extensive training as a range safety officer and less lethal officer You still stick to your story the guy was unarmed?You can be unarmed when holding a gun .Help me understand. Your argument changes to he was holding a gun but had not fired before he was shot.You can further argue on how many shots the agents should have fired. And he had more ammunition in his car. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:15am On Jan 25*. Modified: 5:00am On Jan 25 |
benalvino3:Diversion from fraud in Minnesota.Larger picture is that massive deportations will reduce congressional seats after the census Violence refocuses everything. Plus A judge refused to have Don lemon charged. An appeals court has declined to order the judge issue arrest warrants,Asking DOJ to use other avenues. This coupled the rhetoric from democrats and now an autonomous zone in Minneapolis is encouraging more violence After the attack Tim Walz declares he is preparing a log of evidence to prosecute ICE agents. iCE is supposed to be protected from rioters by his police department, instead they are standing by as federal agents get impeded.
Now he has activated the National Guard. Trump would have done it any time. He wants them under his command. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:24am On Jan 25*. Modified: 5:26am On Jan 25 |
Minnesota ICE watch organizer. https://x.com/ElectionWiz/status/2015176264332484806 REPORT: Minnesota anti-ICE Signal group leader has been identified as Amanda Koehler, a ‘protest’ organizer & campaign strategist for Tim Walz. Code names HAH. Meet Amanda Noelle Koehler, one of the admins of the MN ICE Watch signal chat group. She believes that property damage isn't violence, was a campaign strategist for Tim Walz, and organizes a lot of the protests and walkouts in the area johnny maga @_johnnymaga • 46m Immigration agents have only shot at 4 people in 2026 despite carrying out thousands of operations nationwide: - One was armed with a handgun - One was armed with a shovel - Two weaponized their vehicles Not a single person has been shot for holding a sign and protesting.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:23am On Jan 25 |
Looks like Minnesota has declared some people persona non grata. James O'Keefe was attacked . Nick Shirley and his whistleblower have also faced threats. Black Panther thugs fully armed are patrolling some areas.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:50am On Jan 25 |
American nurses Association actually charges nurses to speak out in the face of injustice. The Oregon Nurses Association is outraged, heartbroken, and profoundly disturbed by the fatal shooting of 37-year-old registered nurse Alex Jeffrey Pretti by federal agents in Minneapolis on January 24, 2026. Alex was an intensive care unit nurse and union member at the VA hospital who dedicated his life to caring for military veterans and their families. A life devoted to healing was cut short — gunned down in the streets by federal agents while speaking out.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:53am On Jan 25 |
This is the America raumdeuter, bemeruca, ibeokehie and basilico think is great now. bayelsaowei: IjeBos: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 6:26am On Jan 25 |
basilico:So where are you headed at? Alex deserved to be shot..just like that..he deserved to be shot for basically nothing..no crime.. An ICU nurse executed in broad day light..Neom who lied about the sequence of the incident, supporters in DHS, and other supporters who are happy that this man Alex was shot would and may get same judgement..in this life or when God comes to judge murderers. You cant support bad thing and be normal or go free. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:30am On Jan 25 |
Leftists logic Is it not very funny that you blocked someone yet keep mentioning when they cant see your posts |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 6:30am On Jan 25 |
those who are not in the us can continue to lie. for those in the US supporting this - do not think if this is not stopped, they will not come for you. this is what making america great again is about. this may as well be nigeria , iran or any country with out of control kill and go security apparatus
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